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I thought small arms innovation was dead, but then worst Korea happened.

That said it looks like it would be a pain to carry around.
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what would happen if I carried it around?
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>>35096447
it would be extremely painful
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>>35096452
4 u
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>>35096441
As always, Australia is light-years ahead.
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OICW's retarded brother
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>>35096466
This is like the equivalent of a 2000 MOA scope mount.
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Innovation?

So OP's too young to remember the OICW being all over pop fiction around the turn of the millennium. Utterly useless knowledge, but now we know it anyway.
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>>35096441
>"Small arms innovation"
>Copying America note by note
>But stripping away key features
>And making it bigger
Woah...so this is the power...of Korean innovation
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Are 25mm airburst grenades a meme?
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>>35096685
No, they're a game changer, but we wont be seeing them issued for some time. The eternal H&K strikes again.
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>>35096441
>>35096574

The only reason the K-11 is not being pushed is because the U.S. did not accept the XM25 and it's 25mm grenades.
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>>35096707
>Not being pushed
>In service for over half a decade
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>>35096718
>>In service

In another nation perhaps.
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>>35096874
UAE only bought a batch to test, only Korea uses them.
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Why not just incorporate this concept into Eugene Stoner and/or Mikhail Kalashnikov's designs? Sig is already coming out with shitloads of designs for internal upper buffer tube, gas piston billets to just slap on any ol m16/ ar15 lowers and what not. Also, look at the AR-57. I'm sure the chinks and slavaboos are cooking up something too. The best technology is always backwards compatible
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>>35096941
Where the fuck have you been for the last 25 years? The USA, the chinks, the north Koreans, the south Koreans and the Russians have all tried that to varying degrees of success. We did it first, figured it was stupid and decided the GL was better standalone.
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>>35096441

Look at that length of pull, I'm a big guy and that still looks awkward as fuck
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>>35096466

They used the Metal Storm concept for the grenade launcher to save space and weight and it somehow ended up even heavier than the OICW
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>>35097001
Then the Asians realized that if you simply made the launcher manual-action then the concept can work properly.
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>>35097309
>if you simply made the launcher manual-action then the concept can work properly
That cant be yet judged with any certainty. The Koreans never really saw combat in Afghanistan and while the Chinese have had a favorable response to the ZH05 in use in anti-piracy operations, that could be a result of skewed perceptions, since prior to that they only had access to the QLG91 (low-charge caseless 35mm m203 copy) and Type 87 (nearly 30lb beltfed launcher). The only party that has met definitive success is the American, who retained the semi auto and beefed it to 25mm, though that project ran into its own problems.
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>>35096452
It's a big gun
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>>35096441
>innovation
This is like ten years old
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>>35096441
Asians, except japs, all realized that the OICW concept is quite great if you can ruggedize it and simplify its grenade firing mechanism.
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>>35098713
The OICW is a completely outdated concept, from back when the military wanted everything fused together at all costs. Nowadays they want modularity, each component has to be able to be used individually and added to each other depending on the situation's need in order to save weight.
Only South Korea and China actually went through with this, and notice how they made the grenade launcher bolt action, and China even made it single shot, in order to reduce bulk, weight and cost. Even then that shit is bulky and heavy as fuck and no more efficient than some rifle with a grenade launcher.
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>>35098959
>Nowadays they want modularity, each component has to be able to be used individually and added to each other depending on the situation's need in order to save weight.
and then they don't bother actually doing that and just issue all the bits all the time anyway
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>>35098959
China's attempt is not bad.

Fully loaded (30 round mag and one single grenade in chamber) its weight is still just 5kg, which is manageable.

Sure, single-shot grenade bolt-action launchers are not really the epitome of firepower and one may say that 40mm airburst would be appropriate, but the added bonus of having a high velocity airburst grenade with flat trajectory even at longer distances should not be underestimated in the tactical aspect.
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>>35097309
Every man a grenadier.
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>>35099640
It's gonna be hell when two platoons engage each other and every man is launching 20mm airburst. Nowhere to hide except out of range. Literally worse than being bombarded in the trenches in WW1.
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