Would /k/ have pulled the trigger?

>>35091874
And ruin a perfectly good uniform?!

I would have let him shoot me instead, we were on the wrong side of the war.

>>35091874
>Shooting an unarmed oponent who is not threatening me

No. I am not a barbarian.

>>35091874
Just like commies, the only good nazi is a dead nazi.

>>35091925
Commies are objectively, measurably worse tho...

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>>35091894
Go back to /pol/.

>>35091874
No, I'd have bayoneted him

>>35091874
No, info is more valuable than a corpse.

>>35091964
Jap detected.

>>35091874

>ruin a perfect uniform
Yeah, nah

>>35091967
It wasn't just the one dude. It was two companies, and this was the first one killed so capturing wasn't an option. Have you not watched Band of Brothers or read the books? Wtf are you doing here?

>>35091954
what made the WW2 soviet era communists worse than the WW2 era nazis. please explain with facts.

im hoping for a real answer, not some fox news fear mongering contemporary right wing view

>>35092004
They attempted to one up the nazis in terms of evilness in literally every way during and after ww2. They had an island where they forced people to freeze to death and eat eachother. Gas chambers were a luxury compared to trying to live in soviet countries during the cold war.

>>35091874
>As I pull the trigger, I yell "For the six-gorillion!"

>>35091894
national (((socialists)))
my only regret is not being the guy killing the national (((socialists)))
>>35091874
I would've double double triple tapped. Removing national (((socialists))), communists and r*ssian dogs is like my freaking fantasy. I'm a real American.

>>35091909
>unarmed
Dude.
>>35091964
DUDE!
>>35091967
Exactly, so you would have shot him in order not to become a corpse yourself?

>>35091956

Truth hurt, you smelly hippie?

>>35092004
You don't know jack shit about shit if you think the nazis were worse than the USSR. That's not even /pol/, that's just fucking reality.

>>35092004
They're both horrible groups and horrible ideals that killed millions of people.

Commies and Nazis are shit tier groups, and deserve to be eradicated.

>>35092024
I agree, stalinistic purges and gulags were real. Reading up on the nkvd they really gave the ss a run for their money

>>35092048
There is no weapon in the picture, no is he reaching for a gun. I would have shouted for his surrender.

>>35092024
that's a pretty silly answer. i mean it was a trick question on my part because it was a pretty silly statement from you to begin with. so it was expected.

what was the name of the island?
where is the recorded proof they attempted to one up the nazis in evilness?
name some of those attempts

>>35091874
Yeah, unless he surrenders real fucking quick.

>>35092074
other than the second part which is really edgy this is pretty rational and an acceptable answer

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>>35092101
(You)

>>35092101
Not him but I got only one word to sum up everything that made the soviet communism worse than the nazies.

>gulag

>>35092066 i never claimed anything. you and the other bozo are the ones claiming to know for a fact that one group was "worse" than another group without providing facts.

the only fact is youre both talking out of your asses

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>>35091964
Chill out there Capitan America

>>35092074
>horrible ideals
The Nazi party were essentially a bunch of angry spergs, but what in particular is wrong with the ideals themselves? Focus on reduced unemployment, national interests over international, anti-vivisection, sounds like a real vote winner.

>>35092110
It's only an edge lord answer if you assumed i mean they should all die.

Intellectual eradication comes with education and an positive cultural interactions with other groups.

>>35092004
>literally the rape army

>>35092122
to which someone could reply with ghettos or concentration camps

>>35092115
please quote me when i said i was a fan of communism. ill wait

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>>35092122
>concentration camps

>>35092115
Unrelated topic but am I the only one that finds it pretty stupid how today's leftist claims they are the true "communists" as to even go far as to compare themselves with soviet communists during soviet union era?

I'm too sick and tired to correct my grammar but I can't help but think that the communists back then would actually be disgusted with the lefties claming they are communists themselves since real communists aren't afraid to use guns, actually kill, hates degenerate shit and were extremely patriotic unlike the lefties calling themselves communists.

>>35092137
Well the whole "ayrian race, death camp, eradication of multiple groups of people" thing kinda eclipses those ideals you mentioned

>>35092140
i always assume the worst on here so that's on me. but i appreciate your answer. good to have some rational folks

>>35092174
>6 milion

vs

>18 milion

who wins?

>would /k/ have shot a Nazi
/k/ is a progressive board of course we shoot Nazis

>>35091874
Yup, at least twice, and I would have aimed instead of using that fake ass hollywood hip-fire shit.

>>35092101
>Stalin murdered his own Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_affair
>Stalin ordered the execution of US spies during world war 2
>Treat ALL veterans like trash, being a soviet pow is basically a death sentence even if the war is over
>Constantly murder civilians, random soldiers, and staff by the millions for arbitrary/political reasons

HE was sometimes based though

″Does Djilas, who is himself a writer, not know what human suffering and the human heart are? Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?″

The eastern front may be the nastiest warfront to ever exist and so normal morals don't apply to it.

>>35092195
But mao killed more which makes stalin look innocent and hitler look like a baby compared to the chinese guy.

>>35092061
Might makes right faggot, the right side won WWII

>>35092217
Hmmmm... Good point. But Mao killed them with starvation. Not imprisionment.

>>35092036
You're not a real American unless you believe the Supreme Court and all alterations that they've made to the constitution should be absolved and repealed, and political parties rendered terrorist groups altogether.

>>35092231

And generally through mismanagement, not outright malice. Mao was clearly a terrible human being, but Stalin was much more malicious, even if Mao has the higher bodycount.

>>35092004
>Not knowing the Soviets were notoriously terrible at supplying food to starving people
>Not knowing about the Holodomor
The Soviets objectively killed at least 2.4 million people (with high estimates into 12 million) in Ukraine through forced starvation in 1932 (which has been argued to have been genocide by scholars)

>>35092187
I dont really see them as intrinsically Nazi ideals, since everyone was doing that in the 40s. Contemporary England had a pretty much identical outlook on their "obvious" superiority to other races.

>>35092195
They only killed 6 million because they were stopped.

The genocide wouldn't have ended even after all the jews were dead.

Then they'd have killed all the darkies, foreigners, communists, and political dissidents along with anyone that was inconvenient.

>>35092187
No legitimate evidence. There is not a *single* fucking document that can be used to *prove* that the Holocaust happened aside from hearsay from Jewish ""survivors"", most of whom are probably just mad that they had to work for oncei n their lives. There is additionally *no* evidence that could point to the idea that there were six million Jews in German custody at any point during the war.

>>35092195
>context doesn't exist
>>35092179
Almost no communists outside of memers are marx-leninists.

>>35091894
Yep, I would have gone AWOL ASAP and joined the germans.

>>35092231
So did stalin in terms of starvation but mao had a longer killstreak than stalin and he even had his soldiers kill anyone that was under the assumption that they had different ideological opinions.

The last part was told to me from a chinese friend long time ago when we talked about history, his grandmother lived through that.

>>35092258

/pol/ that's only because you literally don't believe in proof. Documents? Forged by jews. Death camps? Jews. US, German, Russian testimony? Jews.

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>>35092251

>Implying this is bad in any way.

>>35092202
I would rather shoot a progressive, desu senpai.

>>35092258
b8
>>35092245
>100 roses doesn't exist
I hate Nazis and all, but mao was real fucking evil.

Interrogate first then dispose of the Nazi bastard.

>>35091874
should have told him to put his hand up and captured him


he would have won a big medol if he captured them all

>>35092290
If you're going to disagree with the base of his argument, then what's the point of arguing?

>>35092174
there dick doesn't look circumsised are you sure they are jewish??

>>35092101
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
Soviets are shit humans just as bad as the nazis. I hope your welfare gets cancelled, commie shit !

>>35092271
So the actual communists would be called marx-leninist communists?

Forgot about that term word, anyway do you think during the Bolshevik uprising during the revolution against the tsar actually believed in the cause that they were fighting for was good? Like bread for everyone, land for everyone and everyone united together and dtuff before it went down hill fast since communism seems good on paper but can never work in real life.

>>35091874
>Keep my gun aimed at him and point towards the forest for him to fuck off to.

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>>35091874
Any opportunity to kill Germs is a good opportunity.

>>35092004
The Communists were guilty of all of the same crimes as the Nazis--launching unprovoked invasions of other countries (Finland, Poland), engaging in heinous war crimes (Katyn Massacre, the official sanctioning of mass rape during the advance on the Eastern Front), extensively using slave labor to expand the economy, and outright genocide (Holodomor in Ukraine).

Furthermore, Communism as an ideology undeniably has a higher body count than Nazism does. In the 100 years it's been around, communism has proven itself to be the most destructive -ism in human history, having killed over least 60 million people worldwide by even the most conservative estimates. Nazism cannot claim 60 million with even the most generous reckoning (ie all deaths of World War II that happened within the European theater).

Can YOU produce any facts that communism is somehow not as bad or worse than nazism? I ask as someone who hates communists and despises fascists as well.

>>35092358
There is no real communism, its as fractured as liberalism and corporatism.
And probably not, most Bolshevik fighters were a form of levy, and that late in the revolution most people would've just fought for the food and whatnot. Might've been okay, but lenin was just as angry as stalin, so I don't know.

>>35092358
Communism works in real life, learn your fucking history.
There are very successful communist nations, it's capitalism that is the failing idea.

>>35092358
I think back then people liked the ideal of working together and united as one with food for everyone which is easy to back it up considering it sucked living under the tsar rule and as well lenin had good intentions in his heart unlike stalin that was just a complete fucking control freak.

>>35092369
guy on top right is luthur he hated jews

>>35092377
>I ask as someone who hates communists and despises fascists as well.
You can't be one and claim to hate the other.

>>35092377
They authorized rapes and whatnot because it was what the Germans did on the way in, not justifying it, just adding context you convieniently left out. The genocide in ukraine was alos along political lines, vs. the holocaust being literal industrialized extermination of people due to pseudoscience.
The 60 million figure is also derivative of the "black book of communism" that uses its criteria for "deaths to communism" can easily be applied to the western world, whereas there is no real argument outside of /pol/ that can deny Nazi atrocities.

>>35091894
>being a surrender monkey

>>35092404
True communism (despite the ironic word "true") can only work in small countries but it can never work in big countries like the United states and a good example of what happens when you try communism in a big country like russia and we all know how that worked out for them at the end.

>>35092258
>In January it came to light that Simon Wiesenthal had knowingly faked the 11 million figure
>Feeling that the public would not care if it was just 6 million Jews and 1 million non-Jews killed, so he invented a further 4 million non-Jewish deaths for added sympathy
>Story was widely circulated in Harretz and Israeli media, but basically untouched by western outlets
>They'll admit lying about one figure, but expect everyone to buy that the 6 million number is definitely still trufax
Really does give one cause to ponder.

>>35092377
i don't think one is worse than the other.

you comparing a "100" y/o ideal to an ideal that lasted roughly 8 years (12 if you want to be nitpicky/technical) in terms of total body count isn't helping your argument.

>>35092248
My grandparents lived in the Ukraine. They went west with the Germans when they retreated and eventually to the US. Many in Soviet occupied areas were more than happy to have the Nazis as opposed to the Russians

>>35092453
But communism does work! It's just wasn't done my way! /s
>Repeatedly doing the same thing expecting a different result

Aren't politics grand?

>>35092258
(you)

>>35092250
I don't think everyone was systematically wiping out millions of slavs, jews, fags, etc.

Were other nations doing deplorable things too? Without a doubt, but the Nazis were extra special at it.

>>35092003
I clearly have no info on what's going on.

>>35092404
This is bait
>>35092407
Unions were doing good until some guy threw a bomb.
jokes aside, Lenin wasn't really any better than stalin, at least management wise.
The whole central planning idea is good for industrialization but not much else.

>>35092487

Well I mean Russia did indeed wipe out millions of slavs. Germany beat them to the Jews or they'd be doing that too.

>>35092492
Not trying to defend but how was lenin as bad as stalin?

>>35092453
This is backwards according to non-lenin thoughts, socialsim in one country was a disaster, the only way it can thrive is if its worldwide, and this is why fascists despise marxism.

>>35092503
Right, so my original point was. Nazism/Fascism and Communism are both dangerous ideals and deserve to be eradicated.

Did both forms of politics have their benefits? Sure. But is the minor political benefit outweigh the millions upon millions of dead people.

>>35091874
What else are you supposed to do? Winters was leading a charge against a vastly larger force, he was supposed to remove some of his already much smaller one to guard one prisoner? You don't have time to think this shit through, you just act so you're sure you and your buddies live, and then deal with the haunting playbacks in your head after.

>>35092505
So as someone that is not familiar with the whole communism stuff except the bullshit "communist" shit from today's lefties, what was marx-lenin thoughts and style of communism?

>>35092101
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/stalins-island-exiles-turned-to-cannibalism/news-story/5abf85a133b67bb2d53c4d4ac3597e02

>>35092235
I agree with that.

Especially the political party shit.

When /k/ say they are a progressive board everyone assume /k/ is either making a joke or are trying to look like lefties.

In actual truth /k/ is progressive in terms of that everyone should have a right to bear arms and no one should be exempt from this god given rights even if they are black or jewis. /k/ hates nazi and fascism because they don't support the ideal that one should have a higher privilege or power than the other group just because that person is white or whatever.

So yeah /k/ is progressive but they are in a way that pisses off both the leftist liberals and the right wing fanatics.

>>35092285
>questions evidence and the lack thereof
>/pol/

choose one

Trotsky.


I rest my case

>>35092612
Jeffersonian liberal I suppose, with the point that non-whites are humans.

>>35092612
>/k/ is progressive in terms of that everyone should have a right to bear arms

So if I support the same shit that our forefathers did when they WROTE the fucking 2nd amendment, that somehow makes me "progressive"?

The fuck out of here with your bullshit, dude.

>>35092612
Its called libertarian capitalism cuck

>>35092504
Lenin's implementation of war communism caused millions of deaths due to starvation and persecution until the Kronstadt mutiny forced him to backpedal if he wanted to maintain control of the country. Lenin also set the precedent for despotism that was followed by all subsequent Communist leaders, in the sense that he did not tolerate dissent, public discussion of the merits of his policies or ideology, or the existence of opposing political parties. It was by Lenin's initiative that the Soviet Union created the Cheka, which was the precursor to the NKVD and the leading player in every single bloody purge that happened afterwards in the USSR.

>>35092434
>They authorized rapes and whatnot because it was what the Germans did on the way in

These were unsanctioned actions. The laws that governed racial hygiene in Nazi Germany applied to its own soldiers as well, and anyone who was guilty of miscegenation with slavs or other non-Germans was subject to prosecution if his actions were reported.

>The genocide in ukraine was alos along political lines, vs. the holocaust being literal industrialized extermination of people due to pseudoscience.

This is a false distinction. Not only did the Soviet Union try to frame the Ukranian genocide in similarly racial terms of "wiping out the alien cossacks who are violent savages that are inherently sympathetic to tsarism," but the end result--intentionally ordering the death of millions of people for bullshit reasons--was exactly the same.

>The 60 million figure is also derivative of the "black book of communism" that uses its criteria for "deaths to communism" can easily be applied to the western world

This is a false equivalency. In its first fifty years of existence, communism killed 8-10 million people during collectivization and land reform in the Soviet Union, another 10 million of its own citizens under Stalin via the Great Purge and gulags, and 5 million in Ukraine. Continued in next post.

>>35092612
>/k/ is x
>/k/ hates x
Speak for yourself. I dont think the poor should be allowed guns, I find fascism appealing and the whole basic root purpose of owning weapons is to have power over others.

>>35092612
Well said.
Problem for some reason, groups, or ideas don't hold the hard rule, of language. If I show you a duck, there's one thing you can call it, a duck. If you say X group.. 3 people won't agree on the darned thing.

I hate all those labels, I don't really care who you are what you want or think, let's just share our love and right to arms and spout some memes.

Hitler did nothing wrong, And I don't mean it sarcastically.

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No, because I love Germany and all pure blooded Europeans. My grandfather fought in the SS Charlemagne and killed plenty of Americans before actually going to the US once the war went south and then raising baby boomer fucktards...sigh

continued from >>35092783
China killed 5 million "landlords" and "rich peasants" during its land reform campaign, 30 million people during the Great Leap Forward, and 4 million more during the Cultural Revolution.

All of these deaths were those that Communist governments intentionally inflicted on their own citizens. Your attempt in >>35092434 to try and say that anything in the western world is comparable is a textbook example of false equivalency and whataboutism.

>>35092783
These were unsanctioned actions. The laws that governed racial hygiene in Nazi Germany applied to its own soldiers as well, and anyone who was guilty of miscegenation with slavs or other non-Germans was subject to prosecution if his actions were reported.
An army is made of its people, the context is the same. Pillaging is bad in a normal conventional war, which this wasn't.
This is a false distinction. Not only did the Soviet Union try to frame the Ukranian genocide in similarly racial terms of "wiping out the alien cossacks who are violent savages that are inherently sympathetic to tsarism," but the end result--intentionally ordering the death of millions of people for bullshit reasons--was exactly the same.
Even still, the german plans such as general-plan ost and their intensive expansion campaign for lebensbraum proves they had bigger aspirations than the soviets, such as stalins socialism in one country. This still doesn't absolve them, but it definitely puts them above the nazis.
This is a false equivalency. In its first fifty years of existence, communism killed 8-10 million people during collectivization and land reform in the Soviet Union, another 10 million of its own citizens under Stalin via the Great Purge and gulags, and 5 million in Ukraine. Continued in next post.
The definitions being shaky is my point. Can you, rather are you willing to attribute all deaths from starvation/poverty in the western world to capitalism?

I think another thing that people here forget is that Racial extermination is hard-baked into nazi ideology, whereas its not in communism. The hodolomor, the cambodian killing foelds, and the great leap forward were all plans devised by stalinist leaders at the time.

>>35092909
Woops, forgot to add the green arrows, but the point stands.
See >>35092909

>>35092791
SHALL

>>35091874
Yes. I know because I've been there.
Well, similar situation.

>>35092857
It's not a whataboutism if we're comparing the atrocities commited along with the context.

>>35091874
All eight times, baby

>>35092004
Socialists are just way better when they're nationalist

>>35092080
Is there any god-thier novels out there about captured wehrmacht soldiers on the eastern front?

>>35091881
/thread

>>35092277
>>35091894
i would have joined one of the international ss units if i was alive back then

>>>/pol/pls

>>35093152
and you would have gotten rejected for being a degenerate

>>35091874
I don't know. In the heat of combat I probably would have. But I wouldn't have felt good about it.

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>>35093172
eh, by 44 they needed meat for the grinder

and i dont think id be to degenerate for their standards desu

>>35092409
Yeah, but they're saying that by starting protestantism, he divided europe.

>>35093200
You browse 4chan. That's grounds for execution desu

>>35091925
good goyim

>>35092036
You must get really fucking confused by buffalo (((wings)))

>>35091964
at this distance? how? would you have spear chucked the rifle at him?

yes for me but, I'm also a cuck

>>35093231
or the (((Democratic))) (((people's))) (((Republic))) of korea

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>>35092847
your grandfather would be happy knowing that the flame didnt go out with his generation anon

>>35092174
Ah concentration camps, England got a mighty backstory about those, especially during the Second Boer war.
Please take a look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War#Concentration_camps_.281900.E2.80.931902.29

>>35093291
His honor lives on through me.

>>35091874
Would nailed his ass just like I nailed your mother 6 weeks before you took your first breath.

>>35094008
>6 weeks before
Did you feel a little hand grab you?

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>>35091894
>it's okay to be a cuck if /pol/ says its okay

>>35092229
lol then i guess its good that muslims took over spain and all of north africa

>>35091894
You are a faggot.

They were socialist but god damn heros for fighting the globalists.

No reason to die for the cause though.

>>35091874

As I recall he was a POW and they couldn't spare the time to deal with him.

In that case I'd blow off his trigger fingers, maybe give him a limp. The war would be over for him.

On the other hand if his reporting your position is a concern then he dies.

>>35092377
>Can YOU produce any facts that communism is somehow not as bad or worse than nazism? I ask as someone who hates communists and despises fascists as well.
They didn't want to eradicate entire groups of people.

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>>35094585
[laughs in reconquista]

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>>35094626

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>>35094626
>Bonjour M. Lapadite!
https://youtu.be/YTFdjs_QGWc

>>35092612
You're confused about what "progressives" are, friend. /k/ is a classically liberal board.

>>35091874
>Would /k/ have pulled the trigger?
yup.

>>35094762
What's the difference between liberal and progressive, you Americans use those like they were the same.

>>35094626
There is no such thing as fascists we all know it and by you saying that you proved you are the paid shill here.

>>35092258

The Germans were quite efficient.

They were simply burning them too fast that they could ever get to having 6 million at any one time.

>>35094817
fuck off back to /pol

>>35091894
/thread

buttblasted lolbergs who claim to be right wing incoming

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>>35092195
>who wins?
AMERICA

>>35092487
>Selective breeding programs in US territories
>US was seriously considering National Socialism as a legitimate state of government
>UK was seriously considering killing off those too lame to work/provide for the State
>Russia was busy being communist Russia
>China was busy being communist China
>African colonies considering bringing back indentured servitude
>India, seriously that shit was absolutely fucked pre-1940
>Israel and Palestine were fucking going the fuck at it as usual

If WWII had come 10 years later, you absolutely would've seen governments adopt Nazi ideals in a heartbeat. Shit, if Hitler wasn't an autistic fucker, they probably would've been in bed with just about every Allied government that fought in the war if only for the fact that Germany was entering into a kick-ass industrial era.

I think it's disingenuous to say that Nazi High Command wasn't mostly fucking cancer, because they were being autistic fucks circa 1930s, but lets not pretend as though anyone on the Allies side was going to take the moral high road before the War broke out. I mean, shit, once war broke out the US adopted the Nazi strategy of putting Japs in ghettos. And lets not pretend as though the Allies didn't have a hand in murdering several hundred thousands of those slavs, jews, fags, etc. We bombed the shit out of those concentration camps, and I find it particularly ironic that every camp the Russians "liberated" turned out to be a fucking Nazi "death camp."

>>35092195
>6 million
>only using the number of Jews killed

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>>35094805

>>35092258
Honestly it is pretty questionable that merely asking for concrete proof, searching for the absolute truth, is seen as ridiculous and taboo

It really makes you think

>>35094805
>There is no such thing as fascists
Yes there are.

>>35091894
>>35091874
i would have brought back news from the future as to what the West had become and was doing to itself

I can't imagine your average American GI being at all ok with this

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>>35092791
>I dont think the poor should be allowed guns, I find fascism appealing and the whole basic root purpose of owning weapons is to have power over others.

So you enjoy a power fantasy where you can dictate terms to free men because you own the monopoly on violence.

Disgusting. Everyone should be armed to ensure the inherent liberty endowed to all men, created equal in the eyes of god

>>35095240
>I don't understand history

>>35092258
http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/denial/nazi_doc.txt

>>35092258
https://yadvashem.org/yv/en/holocaust/resource_center/item.asp?GATE=Z&list_type=B-9&TYPE_ID=9&title=Official%20Sources%20-%20Samples

>>35092258
http://www.spiegel.de/international/fifty-million-nazi-documents-germany-agrees-to-open-holocaust-archive-a-411983.html

>>35092258
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/apr/18/opening-un-holocaust-files-archive-war-crimes-commission

>>35092612
Fuck off. I don't think niggers or spics should have gun. The subhumans have shown they lack the self control necessary

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>>35094008
Did you mean 9 months ya fucking retard?

>>35092615
>Can't into math
Definitely both.

>>35091874
Fucker threw a grenade at me. Fuck yeah he's getting a 30-06 to the gut.

>>35091874
>Would /k/ have pulled the trigger?

I've rethought this. I'd have bayonetted the fucker. Right in the face.

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>>35092004
other than the Holodomor and mass purges under Stalin terrible military planning and a lack of style

>>35091874
fuck him, fuck his buddies, fuck his army. he would kill you on sight too, why extend that faggot the courtesy?
maintain center mass though and take his helmet home

>>35092491
Get the fuck out.


And don't come back until you know Band of Brothers by heart.

>>35091874
In 100 years, nobody will care, so why not?

Easy to take as a prisoner

>>35095721
oh and the Katyn thing

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/winter99-00/art6.html

>>35091874
Wasn't this supposed to be like one of those war movie moments where two enemy soldiers catch each other off guard and they're supposed to let each other go only this time the kid who shot the German let fear overrun him and shot the German anyways?

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>all these wheraboos and pol fags

I will raise Arthur from the grave and have him do it again but with B-52s

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>>35095798
you rang?

>>35095798
>getting triggered by a dead movement that hasn't seen legitimate groundswell in around 70 years

>>35095798
FYI Harris never approved of the Dresden bombing.

You have Churchill the scoundrel to thank for that stupidity.

>>35091925

Never has such a people been so thoroughly brainwashed by pre-war propaganda like you americans. The war drums weren't even beating yet and your Hollywood was already painting the germans and the japanese as the worst creatures on earth. Did wonders to desensitize you to perform barbarian shit to a foe that didn't have any beef with you to begin with.

But nothing compares with the shit you inflicted upon the japs. Who wouldn't go kamikaze or harakiri when stories of US marines taking no prisoners for no good reason, severing heads of dead japs to send them home as trophies and pillaging both living and dead enemy like a bunch of battle-gyppos for watches gold rings and tooth fillings. People talk of the infamous soviet pillaging, but at least soviet soldiers were truly poor to the point of being amazed that peasant houses in Germany used glass and nails, where wearing shoes was a luxury, not a given. Americans were well fed, led the most comfortable life on the planet, never had to endure terror bombings or mass civilian casualties, but they couldn't help themselves but still behave like scoundrels all of the while touting the usual self-righteous BS like they always do.

/end rant

>>35092434
>t-they did it too so its okay if we do it!

jesus christ

>>35096256
I can't hear you over the noise of winning this war and wasting nips and krauts.

>>35092174
fake news

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>>35091874
of course

>>35091874
Why the fuck not?

>>35096256
So where are you from?

>Captcha Europa ssio

>>35092137

Sure Chaim keep saying it.

Its was their country and they wanted to economically recover it from the damage that had been done to it. But along come the russians building a massive army to invade it. So its war time.

Those who actually look at facts and non U.S. fucktard propaganda know what actually happened.

>>35091976
>lel

So is this just edgy autism or what?
Because killing in war or self defense or whatever doesn't bother me in the slightest. Same with hunting.
As long as I'm killing for a good reason I don't really mind. If anything I get more nervous if I don't kill them/it.

Now like accidently firebombing a village or some shit that would super fuck me up.

>>35091874

Considering the fact that there was an entire company of SS about 30 yards behind him AND a couple of platoons of your own boys reaching up behind you?

Hell yeah I would smoke him.

>>35095788
Has anyone ITT even watched this scene? Winters shoots the kid and then the camera pans up to look at an entire fucking battalion just kicking it before the Allies show up

Its a reasonably clever reversal of the trope where two soldiers meet and work out thier differences. Fucks sake.

Fuck yeah I would have. You know why? because I like freedom. Sure owning guns might be possible in a far right authoritarian society, but good luck getting ammo when there are no imports and the government is using all of the ammo for war/imperialism, enjoy having your next door neighbor executed because he owned a short wave radio or a second grade teacher being ratted out by his classmates for not being patriotic enough. Authoritarians make me fucking sick and your goddamned right I'd put a few rounds in one if I ever caught one in a war situation where I could get away with it, unarmed or not.

BTW in Nazi Germany you had to have a hunting license to own a gun, even right before the battle of berlin. It was never a "white utopia"

>>35091874
And be a jewish puppet ? No.

>all the cuckolds ITT who'd actually shoot an aryan
Whites are no-kill
I miss when /k/ was uncucked.

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>>35091925
Good goy

>>35092235
>>35092583
i completely agree with that. the government should have no say in what we do

>>35092174
>muh six millions :'(

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>>35096726
>duh, National Socialism isn't actually SOCIALISM!
>Fucking Capitalist pig!
Authoritarian government that has a chokehold on a country's industry, famous for murdering millions of it's own people, loved only by the losers of the world (poorfags and nigs who want gibs/basement dwelling NEETs who don't understand why every stacy would rather fuck tyrone)...
Hmm. No, you're right, National Socialism totally isn't socialism at all, I'm such a stupid jewish puppet for thinking against an opinion like that!

>>35096279

*Vietnam knocks on the door.*

*Korea wants a word with you.*

*Afghanistan tips burka.*

>>35096753
lmao strawman. where in his post did he say any of that? Fucking retarded liberal go jerk off Tyrones cock to prep him for your gf

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>>35092036

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>>35096753
>Still didn't prove how NatSoc and socialism are similar.

>NatSoc government recovers German economy.
>Inb4 Economic miracle was due to revitalizing of weapons industry, even thought weapons industry was a joke until 1943-44 when Reich architect Albert Speer re-organized and focused industry in Germany to war.

>>35096800
>natsoc recovers economy
>no actual evidence outside of wartime economy
>"Duuuh, natsoc isnt communism fuckin stupid capitalist, freedom is for NIGGERS why dont you trust the government"

>>35092485
The Ukrainans welcomed them on the streets didn't they? Little did they know they hated Slavics. It's kinda funny if Hitler would work with Turks and Iranians rather than Slavs

>>35091925
god bless you sir

>>35096800
>National Socialism recovers German economy by getting into a war that Germany then loses
lmao

>>35092137
>nazis
>anti-vivisection
sure buddy

>>35095011
This alone makes me personally question it. If asking questions make everyone extremely upset, why is that? Rhetorical question.

>>35094949
To be far the internment camps we put the Japanese in were alot better than ones in Europe. Also like 20 years later the US Goverment repayed families that lost stuff due to the camps

>>35096767
>implying Korea won
China did more for that war than the damn norks ever did

>>35096807
Still not an argument. German economy was measurably better in the 30s prior to war. Disprove that.

>>35096828
Bit ahead of the timeline dipshit.

But hey i can play that game too.
>American economy was still suffering up until the 50's. Muh "glorious" 50's

>>35096873

Norks have nukes now cause USA didn't do the job properly. Good job 'murica.

>>35092004
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
This is one of many

>>35096900
you clearly dislike america from what you just posted so what is the problem with the Norks having nukes when their primary target is the US...?
Stupid stupid Europoor.

>>35093250
by jury-rigging a bayonet lug to a rifle grenade spigot

>>35091874
It's what uncle Sam is paying me for isn't it.

>>35096921

I don't know anon-kun maybe because they become a threat to anyone, not just america?

I don't hate america, i hate American jingoism and retard attitude of pretending that all of these half-baked cold war disasters aren't causing major problems all over the world for whom the main responsibility is American.

Ron Paul was your ticket out of this clusterfuck you created. There is a reason USA is so loathed worldwide, there isn't a country left you haven't meddled with in a way or another.

>>35092847
it's a shame your grandfather didn't kill himself like the rest of the SS pussies.

>>35096059
>mocking someone jerking themselves off to the thought of ungodly amounts of destruction

What are you, a fucking faggot?

>OMG GUISE STALIN LITERALLY KILLED 450,000,000,000 PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH THE POPULATION GREW BY 3% DURING THAT SAME TIMEFRAME

>>35097460
>omg hitler killed 6 million jews even though the jewish population went up after ww2

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>>35092036
National Socialism isnt marxist socialism, there is no wealth redistribution, its socialism in a completely difference sense of the word, almost to the point where its just using the word to trick leftists. They also did that, by picking red as a color and calling eachother party comrade etc just to trigger marxists.

>>35094614
No, he literally ran up on a young German who was within sight and earshot of two whole German companies. He was lucky enough to catch the one German off guard, let alone two whole companies.

If one of the Germans had seen him before the rest of Easy company got there he and a lot of other Americans would have been killed.

Basically, if he wouldn't have shot the German before unloading into the others, he would have been shot himself.

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>shooting ww2 prisoners
nah
>shooting isis prisoners
hold my beer

>>35097863
>who was within sight and earshot of two whole German companies

so shooting would have alerted them anyway

good job hollywood

>>35097906
Did you read the book or even watched the scene retard? This was a scene from his famous bayonet charge where they closed the distance with a superior force and won.

>>35097983
>Did you read the book or even watched the scene retard?

it's been a long time since i've seen it

I'd pull the trigger on every N[spoiler]azi[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Just kidding. I'd scrambled my Kar98 as fast as I could and tried to shoot the Ami first. t. Kraut[/spoiler]

>>35098034
I don't know if I should laugh at you or be angry people as stupid as you exist

>>35097983

I can't read.

I have my social worker type these salty replies for me.

>>35092612
Libertarian Capitalism was what you were looking for as others have said.

My thing too is that you can believe other groups are inferior (I personally dont), but if you try to legislate that these "inferior groups" cant have the same privelages as you, youve taken away rights and turned them into priverlages, meaning regardless of whether or not I fit into that "inferior group" youve told me my ability to own firearms DOESNT come to me by my creator, but becuase YOU told me I could have them. I dont want a government that gets to tell me im allowed firearms, I want a government that leaves me the hell alone, and in effect, leaves everyone the hell alone. If you give the government power over something, they WILL abuse it and inevitably do something you dont like.

No, i would have flayed him then cooked him alive and eat his hearth

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this thread makes my sad!

Somewhere Soros is fapping to this OP

>>35093200
>browsing 4chan
>likes anime
>likes traps
>thinks hes worthy by any means of being in the SS

you'd be thrown in the gas chambers as you made meme arrows in real life saying there is no gas chambers.

>>35096256
Isn't it time for your Muslim prayer faggotry, akbar? Go fuck a little boy, faggot.

>>35097478
>after
everyones population went up after ww2 retard

>>35091909
But anon, he has two arms?

>>35092355
Not everyone sent to a concentration camp was a jew. The Nazi party also sent the mentally defective, homosexuals, and gypsies to the zyklon b shower room.

>>35091874
assuming he's unarmed and I have a way of getting back to the present, order him to strip down to his underwear and now I have a authentic Nazi uniform I can use for reenactments or airsoft wargames.

that could of been my uncle

>>35091894
Thanks for makeing me laugh on this sades of all boards

>>35092179
Not really. If they were in charge they would very rapidly become exactly like Stalin. Communism is a seemingly harmless seed that looks pathetic but will beome an iron fist of tyranny if given enough water and sunlight.

>>35096506
meh, fuck them, lets make their children brown.

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>>35091874
When I first saw this on TV it looked he grenade launched his bayonet off into his abdomen but it was just the ejected casing(ass seen in the pic) flying in the same direction on camera just as the squib burst.

>>35091874
>unarmed

I'll just ransom or let him go.

>>35094793
Progressives stole the term liberal and remade it.

>>35091894
this

>>35091874
he gave the look of fuck it so yeah I shoot him, he is my enemy I don't shoot him he is going to shoot me and more of my men

>>35092847
SS Grandpa SA Pepe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_q0zti69gA

>>35092377

Yes. Communism, as an ideology, it's not by itself bent on the violent extermination of entire races and to the enslavement of others. There is no denial that some Communist states engaged in frankly horrendous acts, but it's far more complex that merely ideology: it's a blend of historical Russian brutality and political degeneration. One can argue, and some did, that in the SU you could not find a proper communist after WW2.

Neither is fascism, by itself genocidal, merely imperialistic and racist (Euro fascism has quite a ton of different varieties, let's check the Italians, the Spaniards and the Greeks for examples). The Brits themselves were racist as fuck and the British Empire killed millions through forced industrialization, forced famines and brutal repression.

The SU inherited typical "Russian" methods, like the Gulag system (they were called katorga before, and you guess, they are there even now as penal colonies). Plus you get a crazy one like Stalin on board, and you have the recipe for disaster.

Nazism, on the other hand, was directly genocidal and needlessly brutal (everyone knows how "brutality" was a virtue in the Nazi lexicon). We don't keep the Commies and the Nazi at the same level (well, bar the Baltics, the Finns and the Poles, but they are irrelevant in the greater scheme of things) because at least the commies "normalized" and merely reverted to a tyrannical state. The Third Reich killed millions out of sheer insanity, that and plunging the European continent into a war that made it the puppet of both the SU and the Americans.

Enough?

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>>35091956
>ONLY OPINIONS I AGREE WITH ARE ALLOWED HERE!!!!1

>>35091894
Is /pol/ officially a cuckold cult now?

>>35092404
>there are successful communist nations

Name one

>>35102281
Vietnam?

>>35092741
But jefferson didn't believe non-white were human.

>>35097906
The actual charge had two M1919s laying down suppression
Winters and the German also threw grenades at each other first, but Winters realised he had taped his grenade spool (you actually see him doing that in the episode, before they rush in the wounded guy) so he moved away from the grenade, and shot the German who was hunkered down waiting for the boom.

The episode is great, but the changes they made make no sense

>>35102293
>Vietnam
>successful

Also they have the same situation as china. They're communist in name only. Sweatshops and McDonalds as far as the eye can see.

>>35102347
>Le moving goalpost memer

"Since 2000, Vietnam's economic growth rate has been among the highest in the world,[10] and, in 2011, it had the highest Global Growth Generators Index among 11 major economies.[11] Its successful economic reforms resulted in its joining the World Trade Organization in 2007."

Source: Wikipedia

>>35102347
Nothing wrong with giving people places to voluntarily work. But fuck people who don't have our Western standards of living conditions right?

>>35102299
Even if he believed so, does not make it true.

>>35102398
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_(economics)

It's easy for a cross country skiier to catch up by skiing in the tracks left by somebody faster.

It's much harder for them to pass them and start blazing new ground.

Call me when a communist country becomes as nice to live in as the average OECD country.

>>35102419
>I'll move the goalposts again, nobody will notice.

>>35102398
And that disproves what? They were an impoverished shithole before. Now they're an impoverished shithole with a couple of international capitalist institutions. This makes them far better off than they were under strict communism of course, but that's in spite of, not because of, communism.

>>35102518
That was my first post in the thread.

Still, the average Vietnamese person is poorer than the global average, so I don't know if "successful" is the right word to be using.

It's all semantics in the end, what's important is that my dad could beat up your dad.

>>35102560
http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=vietnam+gdp+vs+laos+gdp+vs+cambodia+gdp

Really makes you think.

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>>35092137
The part where they invaded other nations for "living space" and and focusing on ethnic superiority against other races. Which was also used as justification as why they should have Czech, Polish and other slavic lands.

When it comes down to it, invading Poland was retarded, all it did was bring down a buffer state between them and the Soviet Union. They'd be seen as the good guys if the Soviets attacked Poland and the Germans defended them. Until somebody breaks the story about the concentration camps etc afterwards.

Man how fucked up would it be if the war played out like that? We back them (presumably) as they were intended to fight the Communist threat and then learn halfway through about the crimes committed. It'd be a disaster.

>>35102413
If you don't understand the argument, don't participate.

>>35102189
>implying they always haven't been

There's a good reason they're obsessed with Arabs and Blacks invading and fucking "their" women.

>>35102560
>Vietnam
>impoverished shithole
It's clear you've never been there

>>35102627
>Vietnam has a higher GDP than 2 other countries who suffered under communism even worse than Vietnam and haven't opened up to capitalism as much as Vietnam has

Woah, now this REALLY roasted my almonds.

>>35102677
srsly tho, Vietnam is a based country with incredibly warm people. Gonna visit again in December.

>>35102736
Similar starting conditions, the one that remains communist has the best economy.

Seems like your feelings are clouding your judgment.

>>35102677
I've been to japan, china, vietnam, Thailand, and burma. Vietnam is wonderful in terms of its people and culture. It's trash in terms of its government and economy and general quality of life for a native.

>>35092004
communists killed more people than nazis

>>35102784
>95% of polled Vietnamese support capitalism
>foreign investment and international capitalist institutions all over vietnam

Truly they are paragons of communism. After all, they have the flag and everything.

>>35102944
[citation needed]

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>>35102973
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/10/09/emerging-and-developing-economies-much-more-optimistic-than-rich-countries-about-the-future/

>>35103060
>no true Scotsman!

>>35091894
>i will let another country kill me willingly
cuck/10

>>35091894
unironically this

>>35092847
should have been executed t b h

>>35093321
>His honor lives on through an autistic NEET who spends his time on a mongolian throat singing forum
im sure hes very proud

>>35103138
Yeah, except in this case you're trying to claim that a guy born in USA with a grandma who's 1/34th welsh or something is a true scottsman.

>>35103288
No true Scotsman fallacy.

>>35091894
No we weren't. At the time, we were good and the Nazis were evil.

The complete socio-cultural destruction of America in the 1960s and onward had nothing to do with the character of the nation leading up to WWII.

>>35103460
>X is Y
>No it isn't. X is X and Y is Y
>Hurrr no true scottsman!!

>>35103634
>Free trade and communism are mutually exclusive!

>>35103678
Yes, they quite literally are mutually exclusive. They are in fact polar opposites.

Free trade: international trade left to its natural course without tariffs, quotas, or other restrictions.

Communism: A stateless, classless society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

You cannot freely trade for profit that which is the property of the public.

>>35091874
Yes, if I had orders.
Also I don't speak German, so idk if he would be surrendering or not
I would feel bad though since he didn't move towards me with a gun at my men.

>>35103816
>Free trade: international trade left to its natural course without tariffs, quotas, or other restrictions.
>Communism: A stateless, classless society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.


Good thing neither of those things actually exist, otherwise that would be one hell of an argument. By your definitions then no country in the world is either communist or subject to free trade. Which, realistically, I can almsot understand, since EVERY nation falls somewhere in the middle, and the system of each country being defined by which system it is closer to. really, the left/right divide is disappearing as corporatism vs populism becomes the defining dichotomy of the 21st century.

>>35103816
Yet, they stubbornly remain communists.

If only they'd listen to you! I'm sure you can persuade them of their grave error and they'll stop all of this communist non sense.

>>35103867

They're only communists because they keep calling themselves communists. Their policies and practices are almost universally capitalistic, particularly when it comes to foreign trade. Even their 'state' industries are just subsidized private ones.

It's the same as American Liberals calling themselves Liberals when they're authoritarian-statist centrists.

>>35103891
[citation needed]

>>35098270
go home kraut... oh wait, you don't have one

>>35103867
>Yet, they stubbornly remain communists

*stubbornly call themselves

They could call themselves the magical unicorn herding republic of vietnam. It wouldn't mean shit till they produced some horses with bones coming out of their foreheads.

>>35104050
And they still remain indifferent to whatever unsubstantiated claim you come up with.

>>35104068
But it was substantiated in my earlier posts. They do not meet the objective measurable definition of a communist society nor do they want to be communist, as measured by the poll I linked. They are a state controlled capitalist society through and through, same as china.

>>35093217
>>35096726
>implying dah Jews aren't secretly commies

Begone.

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>>35096256
>taking no prisoners for no good reason
>pardoning the hundredth "armpit grenade" incident or war crime no.128375030

On a lighter note, those who did surrender broke all ties with Japan, or at least tried too. Spilled the beans without the nasty torture, in exchange for a warm bed and not having grenades tied to you by your "comrades".

>>35104163
"The Socialist Republic of Vietnam is a one-party state. There is no separation of powers. A new state constitution was approved in April 1992, replacing the 1975 version. The central role of the Communist Party was reasserted in all organs of government, politics and society. There is no separation of powers. Only political organizations affiliated with or endorsed by the Communist Party are permitted to contest elections. These include the Vietnamese Fatherland Front, worker and trade unionist parties."

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Vietnam

>totally not commies guys! They like McDonald's!

>>35104164
The Jews are no stranger to communism. Their kibbutzim are would make antifa gush, if they ever want to do their part.

>>35104226
For people who support communism, doing their part doesn't seem to come to them fondly.

>>35096256
ask anyone in Nanking if we were to mean to the japs.

>>35104246
There's a reason the anarchists lost the Spanish Civil War, after all.

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>>35092074
Fucking this, both are cancers upon society and upon man. The fact so many still believe in these to be good is disturbing say to least.

>>35104384
It's alluring, the appeal to strength and equality. What's sad is that it'll lead to neither one.

>>35091874
No never . He look loka a childsoldier. Just adupt him and show that capitalism is the anser and send him to nam so he will die.

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Unless you've been in the situation you can't really tell.