Need Help ID Found Weaponry

Looks like an anti tank rifle maybe russian?

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>pic related has already been removed by the military explosives team but all they told me was that this is from the allied forces, it's too small for a bomb, anyone got an idea?

>>35085920
FAMAS F1

>>35085931

Its probably german actually, i didnt see western front. I just googled german anti tank rifle.

PTRD-1941. 14.5mm, soviet.

Where did you find it?

>>35085920
PTRD-41

>>35085933

it's an artillery shell that didn't explode

>>35085933
Looks like artillery

>>35085935
>>35085931
You fucks shouldnt even be posting here. You are even too fucking dumb to google "WW2 anti tank rifle"

Summer is over, get the fuck outta here.

>>35085935


I lied again op, sorry. it's a ptr41
>>35085938

this guy beat me to it

that crude muzzle break is very nyet german.

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>>35085920
That's a Pz.b 39 anti tank rifle.

>>35085920
Why don't you try looking up the weapons used by the US and German forces for a start? Also if you have any information about what unit said soldier or soldiers were in you could try looking up what weapons were issued to that unit. WW2 isn't such an old war that there would be no records of who fought where and with what, so identifying these weapons should be even easier than identifying ancient weapons.

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>pic related is what we first assumed to be MG42 ammo but they have no axis stamp (tiny eagle with swastika) nor other typical markings.
Are these american?

>>35085931
I'm only educated on german anti-tank rifles, the Panzerbüchse 38 and 39 but this one (though in a bad condition) has many differences.
If it helps, this was found in the Alsace region of France

>>35085933
Looks like a .45ACP. Allied forces used them extensively in WW2

>>35085946
nope, its the russian PTRD

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>>35085937
Thanks! This looks like this is the one!
This was found in the battlefields where the 17th SS division GvB fought against the 5th US army in autumn 1944, south of the city of Metz
>pic related is where we found this. I assume it was loot from someone in the Waffen SS who fought on the Eastern Front

>>35085955

british 303 ammo?

other anons verify?

>>35085963
I mistook the rear sight for a rusted away Pz.b carry handle. Correction, it's a backwards PTRD-41 because OP is a retard and mirrored the image. That or it's the only left handed model.

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>>35085958
Interesting, i myself assumed it might be a tank shell but artillery makes more sense as they rained artillery on the various fortifications around the city of Metz

>pic related
>This is MG42 ammo but the object on top seems to be an anti-tank grenade, but it doesn't seem to be a german one, anyone got an idea?

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>>35085968
Yeah looks like ammo for a Vickers .303.

>>35085955
>are these American?
>rimmed cartridges in a belt

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>>35085977
You are correct, no it'S not left-handed, the picture flipped apparently. So any picture you see where a gun has the reloader and other obvious signs on the wrong side, you know it's flipped. Seems to be done automatically because i only reduce the size before uploading

>pic related: Mortar ammo, origin no idea

>>35085991
>>35085968
Thanks you both this looks promising, was it known that american soldiers also used british weaponry? Because as far as i know the brits were not in that area but further south

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>>35085983
The grenade appears to be for the GRb39 anti tank grenade launcher conversion of the Pzb.39.

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>>35085994
That's why i came to /k/ because you're as we germans says
>"Waffen-Narren"

>>35086008
Are you certain there weren't also earlier engagements in the area during the Battle of France? I mean it's also possible that the Germans were using a piece of equipment captured from UK/Candian forces, particularly if they were SS since they scavenged fucking everything.

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While i'm in here and assume most of you are american
>pic related is an american soldier of the 5th US army who was now given to the war cemetary authority for the USA and will be identified via dogtag and buried on the St. Avold US cemetary east of Metz, France

>>35086028
That's true. The Waffen SS got the order to not only use guns and ammo from the enemy forces but also vehicles. I'm in contact with some of the Waffen SS veterans of the 17th but both of these survivors said in that area they never saw anyone of their battalion using allied weaponry, they could be wrong though because it's been 70+ years.
Their memory concerning where comrades died is perfect though as we managed to verify

>>35086043
>That's true. The Waffen SS got the order to not only use guns and ammo from the enemy forces but also vehicles. I'm in contact with some of the Waffen SS veterans of the 17th but both of these survivors said in that area they never saw anyone of their battalion using allied weaponry, they could be wrong though because it's been 70+ years.
It's also just possible they never saw it, I suppose. There are any number of possibilites.
>Their memory concerning where comrades died is perfect though as we managed to verify
Both interesting and somewhat sad.

How did you get this job by the way?

>>35085965
Hey, >>35085965 here

You say Metz? Wow thats pretty fucking awesome. Because its clear evidence that the GvB was equipped with soviet capture equipment - OUTSIDE the eastern front.

Thats pretty fucking awesome.

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>pic related
Anyone got a clue what this is? improvised grenades tucked together?

>>35086061
There was a german weapon that was the heads of a bunch of grenades stuck together for use. Not strictly speaking improvised since iirc they were designed to have that capability.

>>35086061
It looks like an M24 anti tank bundle with the wooden handle rotted away?

>>35086061
It's a geballte ladung, basically 6 or so grenadeheads tucked together for bigger boom
They had the shrapnel sleeve taken off though

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>>35086050
Through my own grandfather who was in the 1st SS LAH and donated a lot of money to the german war cemetary commission.
Of course my experience in the german army with explosives helped me to get that job as well and of course former comrades of my grandfather who were actively engaged in recovering lost comrades.
I work together with
>https://www.volksbund.de/en/presse/volksbund.html

>>35086054
Considering that the most of the GvB who fought against the 5th US army were 17-19 year olds i'm not surprised that soviet weaponry was given to them while probably giving the german weapons to more experienced forces

Here are two kids (born 1925 and 1927) we recovered last week, contacting their relatives tomorrow
>pic related

>>35086075
Sounds like a good job anon.

>>35085955
Dunno if IDing equipment other than munitions and weapons is wanted, but closest I can figure for that field phone hand set is a FF33 of some variation. Everything matches but that mouthpiece. Weird it was found along with a bunch of vickers ammo.

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>>35086065
>>35086067
>>35086071
Thanks, yes Geballte Ladung by the looks of it

>>35086078
Dangerous though, most people aren't aware how much shit is absolutely everywhere around Alsace, Ardennes and of course inside Germany still today. Just last week a british 1000kg bomb was found again in the city of Frankfurt. Happens all the time in Germany
>pic related: Tellermine (no idea which model) but these are all over the place around the area of the Maginot line and the Ardennes

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>>35085920
>>35085965
Curious why you're posting pictures from a 2010 Kursk dig and pretending they're yours? Image search is a thing, y'know.

>>35085933
Maybe a big-ass tank armor piercing 'shell' that missed?

>>35086106
Tellermine-35

>>35085955
Looks like .303 Brit in a Vickers belt.
>captcha: 1945 road

>>35086061
As other anons have said, german grenade bundle. Used to give enough oomph to punch through tanks.

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>>35086098
Yes this makes everything more weird. Nobody i know has a clue about telephones so i'll note your comment. Thanks!

>>35086110
As shit nigga

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>>35086005
Looks like a Russian 82mm. Far left pictured.

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>>35086110
Kek. I like relic hunter videos too, OP. Not something we can really do in the US. I assume that's your reason for LARPing?

Does seem like a toxic community, though. Between all the counterfeiters and people staging finds for YouTube clickbait, no need to inject even more lies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGGSaGdGQS4

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>>35086110
I, too, would like to know this. Why would someone do this, just go on the internet and tell lies? For what possible gain?

>>35085920
How would anyone be this shit at their job?
>hurr durr wat r this
>better check my favorite Kenyan gazelle wrangling board
2.3/10 bait.