FN Five-seveN

>>35084099
>Got a role for a pistol caliber? 5.7 can and already has done it.
Offensive handgun.

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>>35084099
So, /k/... Why haven't you bought a Five-seveN yet?

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>>35084115
Handguns, by nature, don't make the best offensive weapons, but if there were one, (Excluding pistols that are full auto with stocks on them) it would be the Five-seveN.

With a 20+1 capacity and readily available +10 round magazine extensions, the Five-seveN is capable in such a role.

>>35084099
>The FN Five-seveN is the perfect duty sidearm or full size carry pistol for a wide range of roles and individuals. With its light recoil, high capacity, light weight, adjustable sights, and versatile, potent chambering, it is a true contender for the top spot.

Too fucking expensive for the top spot, uses extra special snowflake fruity ammo.

>>35084175
Not all of it is lead free

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>>35084099
Now I want one... Too bad I fell for the Glock 19 meme.

>>35084140
It's all fun and games until you realize you have 20 rounds of subsonic 22

>>35084117
Not cost effective, duh.

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>>35084175
What you are describing as snowflake ammo is one of the best parts of the pistol.

>>35084200
Glock 19 is a fine pistol.

>>35084213
You're looking at 1600-2600 FPS depending on the loading. Thats way beyond supersonic.

5.7 is closer to 5.56 than it is to .22

>>35084234
Ammo is same price as .45acp.
>I point this out in like 90% of Marisa threads

>>35084234

that stopped being an argument years ago, 5.7 is like 30 cents a round.

I live in CA and am limited to 10 round magazines. Is it still a good gun?

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did they fixed the trigger???

no?
then fuck off...

>>35084297
You're missing the point of the offensive handgun. It's for quiet elimination of guards and guard dogs. You don't use an unsuppressed pistol for this and you don't use supersonic ammo with a suppressor.

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>>35084099
>Marisa shitposting about 57 again

Ah it's like old /k/ again.

Now we just need Douk to come back and shit on everything again.

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>>35084319
You live in a state where the (((state))) restricts your 2nd amendment rights far more than even the (((Federal Government))) does.

The ability to only carry 10 rounds severely reduces the practicality of any pistol with a normal capacity above 10 rounds, and that hit is larger on the Five-seveN, losing 50% of your magazine capacity.

That is up to you to decide.

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>>35084350
The trigger was never broken. My own Five-seveN has an amazingly good trigger - Close to many $1500 1911s in feel.

>>35084353
Could use some Kagami up in here.

>>35084319
Get something in 45 or 10mm if you're getting a full size autoloader, it's pointless to get a smaller round if you have mag caps.

>>35084367
Five seveN a shit

>>35084099
I need a handgun round to be able to penetrate barriers and do more than just poke a .22 hole on the other side IF it even makes it through without fragmenting. Similar reason to why I choose 7.62x39 over 5.56

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>>35084377
fake.

>>35084099
>Marisa is back shitposting again
>still feeling insecure about the FailseveN
Lovely

sage

Bruh, is that actually you?

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>>35084367
>Close to many $1500 1911s in feel

no it doesn't and you know that.

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>>35084386
There are a huge number of barrier blind 5.56 loadings, along with 5.7 loadings. Bullet design has more to do with being barrier blind than the cartridge does.

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>>35084099
>FN 5.7 $2,400.00
>single box of range ammo $666.00

>>35084405
Maybe the Five-seveN you held was fucked up. A beautiful single stage trigger made of metal and not floppy plastic with built in safeties. Clean takeup with no grinding, and a clean break at a light weight. All from a factory stock trigger.

>>35084402
Yes.

>>35084099
>shoots gold bars
when FN knocks down that value then I may buy
fuck that price tag

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>>35084409
What currency is that in?

>>35084424
Every five seven I've held felt like an airsoft gun. Also, the safety is in a bad spot and hard to actuate.

>>35084425
>$0.30 per round
>gold bars
I wish I could get gold for that cheap.

http://ammo2u.com/ammunition-center-fire-rimfire-and-shotgun/handgun/federal-ae5728a-5-7x28mm-40gr-tmj-50-rounds-per-box.html

Really, you're looking at 30-40 cents per round.

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>>35084140
FN actually calls magazines CLIPS on the fucking boxes

>>35084099
I like the idea of the caliber, but the execution has always bothered me. I really don't like the plastic cased slide of the Five Seven, it was weird and sort of uncomfortable to use.

Also nice to see Marisa around again.

>>35084140
>clip

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>>35084460

>>35084482
Why haven't you responded to this
>>35084351
Is it because the five seven is shit for applications requiring a suppressor?

>>35084351
>>35084491
5.7 is almost as good as 5.56 for suppressed work. You can load 50-55gr soft point bullets at subsonic speeds and have at it.

>>35084099
stop making me want things I can't afford

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>>35084509
Work some extra hours and grab one.

>>35084506
>50-55gr bullet at subsonic speeds
>competing with a 147 or 230 gr bullet at subsonic speeds
lolno

If they fixed the trigger take-up and lowered the price by about $600 I would buy one. Also the stock sights are shit and become loose upon firing under 50 rounds average. It's a niche pistol. Extremely expensive ammunition. I would rather just carry my Glock 17 and an Ar if shtf. I guarantee you wouldn't find any 5.7 ammunition looting. However 9mm will be everywhere. The fn 5.7 also doesn't come with a threaded barrel, which at the price point it's sold at is unacceptable. Give me a holler when it's selling for sub $700 and when you can get 5.7 ammo for less than $0.50 a round.

>>35084536
Show me the 147 and 230gr subsonic 5.56.

>>35084624
Why would I show you rifle rounds when we're talking about handguns you fucking idiot? You do know what chamberings commonly use 147 and 230 grain bullets, don't you?

>>35084117
Because I'm fucking poor.

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>>35084648
I posted that subsonic 5.56 is about equally effective as subsonic 5.7, therefore competing.

You replied with :
>50-55gr bullet at subsonic speeds
>competing with a 147 or 230 gr bullet at subsonic speeds
which implies that you are denying that 5.7 can compete with 5.56 because 5.56 has 147 and 230 gr subsonics. This is further compounded because I never mentioned 9mm or .45.

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>>35084099
jesus says to use 1911

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eric is back

are you being hit by the hurricanes at all?

you never talk to me ;_;

>>35084694
No hurricane damage here (yet). Irma might be a bitch though.

How do I talk to you, got Discord?

>>35084705
this nigga will contact you

;D

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>bumping with strong approval of thread

>>35084705

Take me out shooting if you are in FL, I'm done with this gl*ck 17

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>>35084751
>>35084782
Hit me up on Discord Maribel Hearn#7573

>>35084409
i never get these advertisements. there's no way some suburban white guy is gonna get up and start clearing rooms during a home invasion after taking a four hour basic gun safety course.

>>35084099
>can't knock over steel ringers
Nah

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>>35084815
>He isn't a suburban white male who clears rooms after hearing a bump in the night

>>35084815
what safety course?? lol I never took one

>>35084665
So 9 and 45 are better when suppressors are required? Gotcha

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>>35084856
I know right.

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>>35084409

>>35084838
Hey there, Wound Vectors. Glad to see you're still with us.

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>>35084367
>Close to many $1500 1911s in feel.

>>35084099
Real talk I applied for a warehouse job at FN last week

>>35084099
>Tfw carrying 80 rounds on duty would be a breeze

Unless they get the price down to $2-300 dollars it ain't gonna happen though.

>>35084838
I'm pretty sure i live in such a blue state that if a neighbor saw me doing that through a window I would be arrested

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>>35084884
Good to see you too.

>>35084924
Ouch.

>>35084884
Are you really gay?

>>35084544
respond to this you 5.7 shill whore. It's funny how you don't respond to the anons that btfo your shitty handgun

>>35084994
you live near Bham, right?

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>>35084544
>If they fixed the trigger take-up
Not sure what Five-seveNs you have handled, but mine is fine.

> lowered the price by about $600
You expect them to sell this ultra high end pistol for less than a used Glock?

>Also the stock sights are shit and become loose upon firing under 50 rounds average
It comes with adjustable target sights, mine have never come loose. Also available with fixed sights. Once again, never heard of them coming loose.

>Extremely expensive ammunition
Around 30-40 cents a round.

>I guarantee you wouldn't find any 5.7 ammunition looting.
SHTF being highly unlikely aside, I own more guns than just a Five-seveN.

>The fn 5.7 also doesn't come with a threaded barrel
Most people never buy suppressors. You can get threaded and extended barrels for it.

>Give me a holler when it's selling for sub $700
Never going to happen unless you find one used, especially with the (((Federal Reserve))) central banking system still in place.

>when you can get 5.7 ammo for less than $0.50 a round.
Its already 30 cents a round.

>>35085024

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>>35085054
Yeah

>>35084117

Will in the next few months.

My work has five boxes of AE 5.7 for employee purchase for 8 bucks a box. I'm tempted to just buy them despite not owning anything that shoots it.

>>35084872

underrated image

>>35084099
What are you a fucking sales rep?

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>>35085059
Almost everything you said is wrong. "your" trigger is fine for you. But stock 5.7 triggers suck ass and are worse than an SD trigger. It's also not a high end pistol no matter how hard you shill it. It's 90% plastic and should cost less than a Glock. Their own manual says to re-align the sights every 100 rounds. Most people do buy suppressors. And that is besides the point. A $1500 gun should come with a threaded barrel. It will happen when fn admits that the fn 5.7 is a meme gun just like they did the fns series. It's not 30 cents a round unless you are getting fmj. Ballistic tip ammo is over 90 cents a round.

>>35085664
This.
I also want to see durability tests against pistols in its price range (Mark 23)

>>35085573
Happens every once in a while. A super autist will shill their meme gun on here and get btfo and go full retard. They will always use a throwaway trip and will always post "unironic"ironically. You mostly see this on /r9k/ and /ck/ but there are those rare times you will find these retards on /k/.

>>35085674
probably a dumb question but is the MK23 still even in production?

>>35085681
Yes. They make a batch of them every year. I'm not sure about production numbers but they still sell well enough to warrant being made.

Are you guys actual newfags?

>>35085705
Are you? Ironically biting the hook is 99% of /k/.

Where do I buy the real armor piercing shit?

>>35085837
Pay 2-3 times what the ammo is worth for ss190 cases and bullets on gunbroker and reload it.

>>35084351
>It's for quiet elimination of guards and guard dogs
At best it is back up tool for such elimination. There are no reasons to not bring more accurate, stable and effective gun (carbine, like MP7 or VSS) for such mission.

offensive handgun use.
1. For users who need one hand free: shield bearers and operators conducting climbing.
2. For users who need conceled carry.
3. For mass shooting first respondents.

>>35084117

It only holds 3 more arguably less potent rounds, is expensive to feed, and civilians can't buy AP ammo. You get AP legalized and they'd fly off the shelf.

>>35084301
>Ammo is same price as .45acp.
So 22cpr? I wish...

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/45acp

>>35084407
What am I looking at here?

>>35084319
LOL HOLY FUCK

CALI MAY AS WELL BE NO GUNS LMAo

>>35086614
>and civilians can't buy AP ammo.
>*whispers* elite ammunition

>>35084804
Dog murderer

>>35085066
Your glock is funny shaped faggot

>>35084099
>Freakshow meme safety.
Put a 1911 thumb safety on it that isn't a complete snowflake so people with training will actually purchase your pistol.

>>35084872
Kek

My PS90 is enough for me. Honestly don't like how hueg the five seven is.

Maybe if they ever release a gen2. But who are we kidding, FN never updates designs.

>>35084367
>FN 57 trigger anywhere near even a shitty 1911 trigger
Enjoy your worthless meme pistol, but please at least try to keep the shitlording reasonably believable.

>>35085664
You're being a fucking autist.
>It's also not a high end pistol no matter how hard you shill it
That's like, your opinion man.
Can you afford one? Doubt it.
>It should cost less than a Glock
Yes it's overpriced. Glocks are also overpriced. A Glock should cost $300-400, the Five-SeveN should cost around $700
>Most people do buy suppressors.
Wat.
>A $1500 gun should come with a threaded barrel
It's not $1500, and there are plenty of guns in that price bracket that don't come with threaded barrels. Also what good would a suppressor be with 5.7 ammo? The whole purpose of the cartridge is high velocity so there is no point.
>It will happen when fn admits that the fn 5.7 is a meme gun just like they did the fns series
The fns is not a meme gun. FN will never admit the Five-SeveN is a meme either. Unless your idea of a meme gun is just any model that has been replaced by a newer model.
>It's not 30 cents per round unless you're getting FMJ
That's what 95% of the rounds shot through the gun will be. It makes sense that ammo not typically used for high volume shooting is going to be more expensive. 9mm HP is often priced at 70+cpr yet you don't bitch about that.

What are they serving for lunch today in the cafeteria?

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>>35085664
>But stock 5.7 triggers suck ass and are worse than an SD trigger.
I guess the trigger on my 1911, Steyr Scout, M9A1, Daniel Defense, etc, are all total Hi Point pocket pistol tier, then, and despite firing and finger fucking hundreds of different guns, I've never felt a decent trigger.

>It's also not a high end pistol no matter how hard you shill it. It's 90% plastic and should cost less than a Glock.
As a high end pistol should be. The innovation and focus on weight reduction while maintaining full durability makes this a premium product. You seem to have fallen into to metal = better meme. There is a reason why modern premium products contain large amounts of plastic, yet are more durable than their historically metal counterparts.

>Their own manual says to re-align the sights every 100 rounds.
Mine doesn't.

>Most people do buy suppressors.
What?

>A $1500 gun should come with a threaded barrel.
Most people who use 5.7, even if they are into subsonics and stuff, won't suppress a 5.7. I mean, there are plenty of people who do, but the main attraction of 5.7 is the velocity. Sure, you can suppress it just like you can an AR-15, but really, why?

> It's not 30 cents a round unless you are getting fmj.
99% of the ammo fired out of most guns is FMJ. Ballistic tip is for hunting or self defense.

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>>35086654
45gr Barnes Banded Solids in .224.

Out of production.
Banned by the ATF.
R A R E

>>35084099
Is this a new pasta?

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>>35087311
classic pasta

Ive been thinking of getting a fiveseven as my next meme pistol. But i think im going more scifi

>>35087126

>Also what good would a suppressor be with 5.7 ammo? The whole purpose of the cartridge is high velocity so there is no point.

a suppressor doesnt slow down the bullet and make it subsonic, you would need a subsonic round. it does make it near hearing safe to shoot but will still have a loud crack. there is a reason people use suppressors on 5.56 and its not to make it go pew pew pew

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>>35087311
This isn't pasta. I hand-typed this all for this thread.

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>really want a Five-seven
>5.7x28 is blanket banned here along with 4.6x30 and .224 BOZ

I doubt I could even get it approved if the round was legal, the minimum caliber requirement for standard handguns is .38". .22 cal is only ok for .22LR in match handguns.

>>35084460
They are clips.
Clip is a synonym for magazine. Ignore the sperglords.

>>35084117
Are you a decent looking female, Marisa? Then I'll get one when you blow me.

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>>35087708
Marisa is a decent looking female, but I doubt she'll ever blow you.

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>>35087664
>Clip is a synonym for magazine

>>35085664
Cody's Lab is based as fuck.

>>35087753
Its a pretty sweet channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HPi3Yv47QA
What do you guys think of this review on the Five seveN? It seemed pretty fair to me, makes me want to get one.

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*shits on your meme plastic gun*

>>35087664
That's like saying a car is the same as a truck. They perform a similar function but are not the same thing. Hence the different names

>>35087936
Every car should be a truck.
Every truck should be a truck 19.

>>35084099
Can I have a USP in 5.7x28
I honestly would get a P90 though. Your shitposting has convinced me

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>>35084117
Because the TT-33 does everything the five seven does at a fraction of the price

>>35088032
Whats a tt33? Sounds like a model of acog?

>>35088032
No no no and no.

Tokarev cant pierce IIIa with common rounds. It doesnt have 20+1. It doesnt have good sights. It doesnt have a good trigger. And it isnt light. Or reliable.

This isn't average shit posting
>This is advanced shitposting

Why did they never make a full-auto version? It seems the perfect pistol to turn into a PDW, as opposed to the Beretta 93r, Glock 18 and full auto 1911 variants.

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>>35088131
>Being this new
Go watch some Ian vids and come back when you can name each part in a ППШ

>>35088151
That's funny because I had a TTC that had an amazing trigger, and what ammo are you talking about? I'm seeing youtube videos of people defeating iiia, one using commercial ammo and the other surplus.

>>35088222
Show me the IIIa vests being defeated with off the shelf ammo that isnt super subgun case blow out hot.

>>35084099
Are you the same "marisa kirisame" that posts on the zdoom forums?

>>35088282
No.

>>35088205
I don't really use YouTube

>>35087963
Fuck off truckfag, the SUV 1911 is the only true american vehicle.

>>35088199
They didn't want to cannibalize p90 sales

>>35088519
Is that speculation or do you have more info than I do?

My point is just that if machine pistols were ever a good concept in any situation, the 5-7 would be the ideal platform.

>>35088535
Pure speculation, but I agree with you on the platform being used for a machine pistol. It would just seem absurd to me for FN to try to sell a machine pistol with 20-30 rounds while they still marketed the p90 with the same round but 50 round magazines.

>>35088664
But they're entirely different in role. A P90 is (ideally) issued to men who are not really supposed to be shooting much, like vehicle crewmen, to allow them to carry decent firepower in a very compact package.

While a Five-Seven FA would be marketed to, I dunno, attack divers and drug lord bodyguards or whoever actually use machine pistols.

>>35088729
Gangbangers would love it, since it would mean they could kill cops with a concealed handgun without having to actually aim.

>>35088933
Would never make it onto the civilian market.

>>35084924

>not having blinds and curtains closed at all times

Fuck outta here with that gay shit.

>>35087723
Then there is no reason to buy one. Sorry, no sale!

>>35087963
Trucks are not plastic. Try again.

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>>35088032
lol 7.62x25