Gun grabbers

what the fuck i'm actually rustled
shooting looters is a national pastime

>>35078990
Why would they do this? Surely there's a modest reason. Maybe they're allowing citizens to store their firearms in a large armory for temporary protection, or maybe they're worried about weapons getting lost, and picked up by criminals, or maybe they-
>the government is just going to take the guns for themselves
Fuck this. Fuck them.

>>35078990
They're a protectorate not a state so they don't benefit from the small amount of states rights we do have.

>>35078990
>How is this legal?
Because the virgin islands, while us territories and under the protection of the constitution, also have their own governance.

tl;dr
Our vassals are bound by our constitution, but are free to have their own such such that they are not in violation of the constitution. The constitution only prohibits congress from infringing on the second amendment (and thereby denies states the ability to do so).

tl;dr tl;dr
Second class citizens are second class citizens.

Whatchu gonna do faggot? Shoot at the national guard?

Lol no, you will cry on 4chan and spread those cheeks for big brother like the cuck you are

>>35079222
>Whatchu gonna do faggot?
"I don't own guns, ammunition or explosives, prove otherwise faggot"
"let me see your warrant"
"what is your name and serial number, along with the name of your superior and the person who issued you this order?"
"I will be suing you and see you court marshaled for following an illegal order."
"due process faggot, fuck off"
etc

>>35079240
"Oh youre still coming in"
"Il sue you! This is america"
Cue losing all guns and money while trying to reclaim them

>>35079108
Isn't it a constitutional right though?

>>35079108
>>35079173
>Hahahahahhaa you think we have rights because the constitution says so?
They pulled the same shit during Hurricane Katrina. There was no investigation afterwards, no recrimination for the cunts who made the order. The gov't can do whatever it wants during a "state of emergency", which is why letting people know you have guns/ registries are brain dead retarded

>>35079278
No, the right exists independent of the constitution. The constitution only prohibits it's infringement.

>>35079254
"step any further and I'll shoot in self defense"
"and it'll be on Youtube"

>>35079173
>>35079280
Pretend I'm not a faggot. I got the phrasing of the first and second mixed up.

The governor is a faggot who knowingly signed something illegal in numerous ways.

>>35079301
So its a right upheld by the constitution. A constitutional right. My point was that state's rights are irrelevant.

>>35079302
>Shoot at national guard
>Get shot
>Become the crazy man who shot at the national guard on TV
>Your guns are auctioned to pay off compensations for victims

Everyone in California has a plan for at least some of their guns to have a tragic boating accident just in case they ever go full confiscation on us.

The Virgin Islands sounds like a fine place for a lot of such boating accidents to happen.

>>35079381
The new california boat license requirement for all watercraft makes a lot more sense now.

>>35079096
It makes sense to take away the guns if a natural disaster is closing in on an area, it prevents looting and crimes.
If you don't want your homes broken into and your guns stolen just let the people who are responsible take care of them and you can focus on evacuation.
You don't need a gun to survive, it isn't food.

>>35079392
Looks like it will have to change to a fishing accident then.

>Sir we have come your guns
>I lost them all in a fishing accident
>You lost them all in a fishing accident?
>How was I supposed to know that fish don't take to guns as bait?
>Sir, are you being serious? What about the other guns?
>After the first one was lost, I just had to make sure of the results.

>>35079344
>To defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

You wouldn't have been shooting national guard, you would have been shooting traitors.

They literally took an oath to not do that...

>>35079432
Can't argue with a man using the scientific method.

>>35079581
It's Cali. Neither our legislature or judiciary care about the law at all.

>>35079431
There's no excuse for taking guns, but some reasons are less overtly insidious than others

>>35079610
Neither do your (((Citizens)))

>>35079635
That's true. But not everyone is lucky enough to have sherrifs/depputies. Some of us have to deal with police who are beholden to (((mayors))) and politically appointed (((police chiefs))).

>>35079431
>It makes sense to take away the guns if a natural disaster is closing in on an area, it prevents looting and crimes.
No, guns PREVENT looting and crimes. Do you honestly think the criminals planning on looting are going to give up their guns? Do you even think that the government knows about the guns that those criminals have? No. They don't. This will only be taking guns away from law abiding citizens and turning them into defenseless sheep.

>You don't need a gun to survive, it isn't food.
Oh, so if you don't need something to survive, then the government has the right to take it away from you? Also, the gun may very well allow you to survive, firstly for deterring or shooting an attacker/looter and secondly for hunting food of your own.

Eat a dick you statist.

>>35079736
I think he was being sarcastic, anon

>>35079748
Oh, sometimes I read something and get so mad I forget that sarcasm exists.
Poe's law, and all.

Let us never forget the National Guard took guns after the hurricane known as Katrina, from the elderly and U.S. citizens.

>>35079431
>You don't need a gun to survive, it isn't food.
It can get you food and stop people from taking your food.

>>35079775
And we had a Republican president too :(
When will the libertarians have our turn at the spotlight? Suppressors and sbr full autos for all!

>>35079434
this

oathbreakers are not people

>>35079791
You wouldn't have to worry about people taking your food if they didn't have guns.

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>>35079812
Indeed.

>>35079108

Yeah but cops/national guard did the same thing in New Orleans after Katrina. They went door to door to evacuate people. Some people said no, so they ask "Do you have any firearms in the house?", in such a way that almost sounded as though they were concerned for your safety, and wanted to make sure you'd be okay without them.

Answer yes, and they barge in and take the guns. They never got returned afterwards either.

>>35079736
>>35079431
The order is for the government to seize ANY property the government needs to defend itself. That includes any food or water you have even if it isn't guns. At best this is unconstitutional, and at worst, this will leave the residents starving and defenseless. Bastards.

This kind of shit stops when we wipe a few faggoty patrols out coming through our cities and towns and hamlets

Get a few brohs, get your gear, set up a nice 3 point ambush
dump gasoline on the bodies burn em

didn't ask you to deploy on my soil its against the founding fathers wishes and certainly didn't ask you to come take my weapons away while violating my fucking rights

take your police state nazi KGB shit and shove it in your commie ass.

>>35078990

Step 1: buy a toughbox
Step 2: fill bottom of toughbox with guns
Step 3: insert divider
Step 4: fill top of toughbox with fleshlights and dildos

Act like you don't want to open box. Act really embarrased when they open it and laugh at you. Nobody bothers to check what else is in there nor wants to touch things that have possibly been in your ass.

>>35078990
Oh my God imagine if they did this in Texas:
>"national guard attacked trying to confiscate firearms in Texas: soldiers and civilians killed"
Eventually
>"Texas succeeds from union"

>>35080076
*secedes from the Union.

>>35080104
Secede and succeed are synonyms senpai.

>"We're here to take your guns."
>"Don't have any."
>"Records show."
>"Boating accident."
>"Can we come in and look?"
>"No."
>"We're coming in anyway. We didn't find anything because we have a thousand homes to search a day and are national tard."

>>35080076

Fuck Texas, and fuck Texans.

All hat and boots, no substance.

If you don't have at least one or two rifles or home built submachine guns buried somewhere you're not excelling at being an American.

Let them take my range toys. Lord knows I'll be taking their equipment shortly after.

>>35080147
agreed. The quintessential all talk no walk.

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>we've come to take your guns
>ok
>its in a safe, thats inside a safe, thats inside another safe ect ect
>they spend many hours prying through my multiple safes
>they get to last one just to find that the gun isnt there

>>35079884
>this will leave the residents starving and defenseless. Bastards.

then maybe they should leave the state while the storm is there? what a fucking concept that is.

>>35080162
>Lord knows I'll be taking their equipment shortly after.

t. child who has neither a legal gun nor an illegal gun

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>>35080224

.t government cuntboi

>>35079895
lel you won't do shit you fat cuckold

>>35080199
>US Virgin Islands

>>35079825
>I am a person
>they are people
... They have the larger advantage without firearms.

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From wikipedia

> A license is required to purchase any firearm or ammunition.
> All firearms must be registered with the Virgin Islands Police Department

>>35079825
This is the same stupid nigger logic they use in Chicago. Tell me, if guns are basically outlawed, how did 50 people get shot over the weekend in Chiraq? Oh, criminals don't follow laws? Whodathunkit?

>>35080256

>what are boats

>>35080259
It's an unincorporated overseas territory. For a million different reasons it doesn't have the same legal arrangement as the USA. Also everyone there is black.

When that British Pedophile Island in the tropics got raided a few years ago because literally everyone on it was a child molester, the Bonglish police went around confiscating firearms from the suspects (which was the entire male population) because they didn't want anyone to kys yourself themselves.

>>35080311
Yeah, I'm saying their shit will get confiscated because they were dumb enough to register it in the first place.

I bet as a government of an island(s) it is tough to resist putting the boot dow a little harder because where else will people go? See also: UK and Ausrtailia vs only semi-fucked Canada.

I remeber seeing mostly white people in the USVI, though I cannot confirm they were not also off my same cruise ship. Other nearby places like the British Virgin Isles were noticably not as white.

>>35080376
>>35080311

what does their skin color have to do with their rights?

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>>35078990
>Virgin Islands

>>35080385
Nothing.

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>>35079812
>lolberts
>ever
>“The five-shot rifle, that’s a standard military rifle; the problem is if you attach a clip to it so it can fire more shells and if you remove the pin so that it becomes an automatic weapon, and those are independent criminal offenses,” Weld said. “That is when they become, essentially, a weapon of mass destruction. The problem with handguns probably is even worse than the problem of the AR15.”

Mememan Paul would've been nice, but the party is a total joke.

>>35080623
Stop confusing libertarianism with the libertarian party.
The libertarian party is cancerous trash because it is open and any statist faggot can be the nominee. (ex: cuckson / weld ticket)

>>35079431
You are a fool and I hope they loot and kill you first for being so ignorant or are you bait ? Either way fuck you for even suggesting I give up my rights for your idea of safety. You are a foolish and dangerous person giving advice like that. KYS now and save someone the trouble in the future, please for humanity's sake.

>>35080745
Libertarianism as a word was synonymous with communism
I don't identify as a libertarian or with the libertarian party because >>35080623 and this reason

>>35080104
No, in this context I think anon had it right... Texas would succeed from the Union.

>>35079994
that's actually smart, albiet expensive and you'd likely only have space to hide 1-2 rifles and a handgun

>>35079280
You mean the same mayor nigger faggot that's chugging dicks in federal prison? That mayor nigger faggot?

Good thing I dont live there anymore. Rip

>>35079775
https://youtu.be/B1Qx0cTze0M

Remember, your taxes paid for this

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>>35078990
>this would never happen in the Chad islands

>>35079884
Literal theft. They will disarm you then steal your supplies. They should be hung in the streets.

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>>35078990
Jihadist have infiltrated most of the islands and part of south and central america.

The deep state wants to disarm the populace in order to give the jihadist free reign!
Then sending in the military and attacking Cuba and Venezuela for the uprising!

>>35078990
It isn't, it's a direct violation of the Vitter Amendment which was passed specifically because of NO pulling this shit after Katrina.

The Virgin Islands are in direct violation of federal law.

>>35079280
>There was no investigation afterwards, no recrimination
There was a massive court case that the city lost at every step over the course of two years.

>>35079431
you must be one of those neo-cucks i hear so much about

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>>35079812
>when will libertarians have our shot?

When your campaign platform stops supporting neo-feudalists and child pornography.

>>35080389
This one is pretty good.

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>>35078990
>"In accordance to Title 23 Section 1522, Virgin Islands Code, The Adjudtant General is authorized and directed to seize arms, ammunition, explosives, indcendiary materials and other property that may be required by the military forces for the performance of this emergency mission, in accordance with the Rules of Force promulgated by the Virgin Islands National Guard and approved by the Virgin Islands Department of Justice."

I think this is just activating the army for emergency, might have nothing to do with gun grabbing unless somehow deemed necessary for them to function. The moment they start gun grabbing though, then we have problems. But until them, this might just mean using depots and stored up supplies from government owned areas.

>>35084180
those are internet anarchists posing as libertarians

>>35079431
>confiscating firearms reduces looting
Please tell me that you're only pretending to be retarded...
>need
Fuck off, you have no right to tell anyone what they do or don't "need".

>>35080376
>I,bet it has to do with them living on islands

Real talk tho, it has to do with the British being cucks to the govt. In the 19th century to avert a populist, proto communist uprising, the Aristocrats in Britain molded the nationalist feeling in the country into one that is inherently statist and pro monarch.

The Strayans were originally quite independent, but that changed when shitloads of Britcucks emigrated to the Land Downunder due to shitty economics in Britain during the 1950s, severely changing the demographics and thus voting habits.

T. Unemployed social sciences asshole.

>>35083236
>the deep state wants to disarm the rebellious natives who may or may not embrace radical islam as a means of striking back at the US

FTFY

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>>35084180
>When your campaign platform stops supporting neo-feudalists and child pornography.
Kill yourself, you fucking communist. Just because your ideology necessitates a lack of freedom does not mean we must accept your delusions.

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>>35084180

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>>35084180
Also none of those things are not mutually exclusive witch each other. That's not how a pie graph works.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>35084180
See filename

>>35084507
>not liking Randian morons makes me a communist

You have to be 18 to post here.

>muh commies

Commies in the US are just overglorified homeless people with a trap fetish.

>>35084591
>implying they won't get recreationally nuked when they violate NAP.

>>35084591
That ancap face should be green and black, because anarcho primitavism

>>35084488
>Unemployed social sciences asshole
Are there any employed ones?

>>35078990
lol
Every single one of you would bend over for this after complaining on the internet
None of you would fight it

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>>35084601
What's wrong with an Rand?


But yes, being against the liberty cart blanche does make you a statist.

>>35084616
I said see filename. It's a strawman meme.

>>35079173
What about the 4th amendment?

>>35084654
See: >>35079311
>numerous ways

>>35084632
Her writing is really fucking whiny, she's a hypocrite, and didn't fully flesh out what her ideas were about. I know it came before mises, but it still feels like a rip off.
also
>anyone higher up on the political compass is a statist
I'm coming for that toothbrush, boi

>>35084654
Also the 14th amendment

>>35080188
I'm honestly tempted to do something similar to that.

Have a treassure room in the middle of the house with steel and kevlar lining along with extra studs and tile on the outside that has a vault door and inside are two large safes ancored bolted into the foundation and the wall and inside those safes are small locker boxes chained to the inside and inside the left box is a large high quality print of a doge meme and the right box has a large high quality print of the at least you tried meme of the fish sandwich with cheese slapped on the outside.

>>35080259
Hey it was a test bed for californian laws.

>>35085536
Put the safes inside each other backwards.

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>>35084591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5om13s74Rw

>>35078990
The government has broad authority in an emergency. In this case, it's the power to seize arms and ammunition in the event that the National Guard runs out/needs a pretext to disarm anyone they suspect of causing trouble.

>>35079108
This is all sorts of wrong.

The moral of the story is: don't be a stupid fuck. Don't tell the police you have guns, don't cause trouble. Sit tight, be cool, and remember that an emergency isn't a chance for you to sperg out and indulge in your wasteland fantasies.

>>35085731
>t's the power to seize arms and ammunition in the event that the National Guard runs out
Yes.

>needs a pretext to disarm anyone they suspect of causing trouble.
No.

>>35085763
Eh? The order invokes VI Code to declare members of the NG are are peace officers who can disarm people to accomplish their mission.

They're not fighting invaders, they're keeping order.

This is why I've entertained the idea of having a few "throwaway" guns. Guns that are cheap yet convincing enough to be passed off as guns you actually resort to using, while having a more well suited arsenal hidden or concealed on your person. I live in Miami and some Katrina type shit might happen. Might.
>national guard comes kicking around, confiscating guns
>have my main stash stowed away with some ammo exposed out in the open along with throwaway guns that include a police trade in 9mm/.40 that costed me $300 and a shotgun or two like a trade-in 870 or a Mav 88
>act compliant and give them up
>"fess up" and reveal that I also have a .38, some beat to shit S&W model 10 to clear out any sort of suspicion that I might have more guns
>they leave with those shitty guns
>go back to concealing my Glock 19 and having my AR with a red dot/white light/sling and not be dead or severely cucked out of my shit
>they only took 1/9 out of my ammo stash as a result

>>35080389
this is good

>>35085800
Miami? Might?

You're going to be underwater in a few decades at the latest.

>>35085809
No worries, I plan on leaving this God forsaken shithole in a year or so.

>yes I have guns
>queue 4 guards trying to pick up a 2000 lbs gun safe cause I put lead weights in the bottom so people can't take it
Your move fuckers.

>>35086371
>welds it shut so you can't get in, either.
give the laziest man the hardest job and you'll find the easiest way to get it done.

>>35078990
You know, I like guns and everything but I think there might be some justification for this.I mean, in situations like hurricanes people panic and loot, and for people to have guns just makes the police's work that much more difficult. It's fine for you to hunt or shoot recreationally and all of that. But sometimes you just gotta have some commom sense, i think.

>>35086463
B8

>>35086465
Yeah, i'm as SHALL NOT as one can be.
Was it that obvious? i wanna improve my b8 game :/

>>35086463
>not using defending you, your loved ones, and all you've worked for as the primary reason for owning a firearm
>let the government solve your problems!
please go back to your subreddit

>>35079432

I can't argue with that. I'm facy, the cops should hand over their guns to you...for further testing of course.

>>35078990
Happened with katrina iirc

>>35080249
Fucking this.

>>35079431
This has to be bait.

>>35080385
Blacks aren't people so they Don't have rights

>>35085808
Yeah. FUCKINGLEAF.jpg here. I've got an SKS and a Spanish 1911 as a front. I'm saving for an XCR-M at the moment. We can't own SCAR's up here, so that's the next closest thing. I figure one non-restricted and one restricted firearm oughta be enough to sate their thirst for fuckery. Polis takes my slavshit and beanershit, I laugh because an SKS with a crate of ammo is $550. Out comes the $3200 rifle with a crate or two of Hirtenberger.

I've also thought about trying to learn how to mill, and getting a Tokarev. It can't be that hard to mill out a Tokarev frame, and the parts kits (everything but the frame, which is the registered part) is legal for anyone even without a firearms license.