AR Autism

>>35070304
only external differences that really matter are the ability to add optics and a free floated barrel

yes this matters

>how come people like to customize things?

thats what you said. i bet you're that guy who refuses to use scopes and shit in videogames and only uses irons

>>35070772
.....not op but i do that, also i choose my loadouts depending on what country i play as, like in bf4 ive never used an american gun playing as russia.....ever

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>>35070304

>>35070772
Not op but I do that, and i bet you're the blind guy with a scope on a sub machine gun ffs

>>35073252
>Not wanting to look directly into a man's soul with an acog from 10 feet away

Why even bother

Whether the newer ones are an improvement really depends on how the particular new one is built and what the gun is going to be used for. The original configuration is a well rounded machine, not a specialized one.

>>35070304
i no b cos fuck optics rite lol

>>35070304
As hard as I am for the A2, it really isn't practical. The fixed rear sight offers no advantage vs the Magtech flip-up that's now used, and because of the vestigial carrying handle instead of, say, a dovetail in front of the rear sight, the only way to mount optics is on top of the carrying handle, which gives you an even bigger parallax.

For the A2's credit, I like the handguards much better than the full length KAC rail. It's just heavy and poorly designed, and although you can't as securely mount a PEQ or foregrip to an A2 handguard, there's sure as hell a better way to implement a metal one.

Also, the military barrel contour is pretty dumb. Ideally you want it to be thick at the base, for heat stability and greater surface area to disperse heat, as well as resistance to physically bending the barrel, and then it can be skinnier up front. The M16 and M4 are the opposite.

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>>35072847

>>35070818
>Westinghouse and Remington made M1891s
>Winchester 1895 lever nugget
>Hiram Berdan was an American
>Various Maxim designs used by Russia

>>35070304
Um, so anyone wanting anything other than a off the factory line minivan is an edgelord? Listen, I had a straight lace a2 just like the pictured one. Fucking hated it. The handguards heated up so badly after 40 rounds NOT in rapid succession I dropped it like the hot piece of shit it was and upgraded everything with magpul. Now it's fine.

>>35070304
100 percent right op

it's a downright disgusting shame.

>>35073815
>Listen, I had a straight lace a2 just like the pictured one.
no you didn't

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>>35073863
Yes, I did. The handguards sucked and will always suck.

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but I like my autism

>>35072847
>not a triangular handguard and a 20 round mag
faggot

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>>35074080
Did they have the heat shields inside? I've never experienced that problem on my AR

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>>35074196
>not a triangular handguard and a 20 round mag
because is clearly a m16a1

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>>35074290

>>35074182
where buy stock?

>>35074728
Don't remember where I bought it.

>>35074749
It's not the garbage the one person posted online about. It's not as cheap as it's made out to be. Feels pretty solid. At worst it's Keltec tier. Stop spouting memes.

>>35074728
>>35074790
Nevermind, I found it:

https://www.stackingbodies.com/

>>35074749
don't you ever tell me what I want again
>>35074817
thanks

>>35074182
at least get the colors to match jesus

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what's so great about the original AR's? They're ugly and less functional.

>>35075041
they do match. are you blind?

>>35072847
I just wanna operate inna Grenada

>>35074196
Nigga please

>>35070304
I live in California and have been wanting to do an A2 build.I've found a muzzle break that looks like the A2 birdcage, but would it be worth it using a Hammerhead grip? Or should I go fixed mag and have more accurate parts?

>>35070304
Nothing really is fundamentally wrong with the more classic ar designs, really only improvements in ergonomics and mounting optics will make it more practical, free float does not matter as much as the tripfags on arg will tell you and you do not need to get into that whole money spending competition to make the rifle more practically functional.

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The original design is inferior because you cant mount attachments to it.
modern optics> iron sights
Irons are gay and you are only putting yourself at a disadvantage by using them.

>>35073810
i said bf4

>>35070304
t. jealous poorfag

>>35075680
Just fix your mag and get some of these.

https://youtu.be/sYSRdMpuFL8

>>35076048
I like this. is it compatible with a regular ejection port?

>>35075743


You sound like a kid that doesnt ow an AR, let alone an ACOG.

>>35076120
That one is. There's another one by another company that does require a modified ejection port.

>>35076156
Thanks for the boner. This will probably be my next build. Just gotta find a pinned 20 rounder.

>>35076185
I got you famalam.

https://myservicerifle.com/product/troy-10-round-magazine-20-round-body/

>non free floated barrel
>stock too long for some people's armsies
>front sight post gets in the way of optics
>people want to be able to add lights/grips/whatever they want instead of not having that option
>no qd sling attachment points
>more comfortable pistol grips
>no ambi controls
I could keep going if you want

A2 fixed stock is shit.
A2 grip is shit.
A2 handguards are shit.
Fixed carry handle is shit.
Burst cams are shit.
M16A2 is shit.

The only improvement on that gun was the reinforcements made on the lower receiver.

>>35070304
>What's wrong with the original version of the ar 15

That's not the original version of the AR-15, fagtron. It's a retarded government profile barreled rifle with a garbage A2 grip and a rail-mounted carry handle (which is like buying a quad rail handguard and then plastering rail covers all over it, and nothing else.)
A2 was a mistake, the only improvements were the stock and handguard, the rest were setbacks. At least A4 added something of value with the flat top, but when you just slap a carry handle in there you might as well have a damn A2 where the carry handle is usable by people other than fairies with girl fingers.
(See, OP, I too can bitch autistically about shit that doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever.)

There is literally nothing wrong with thr A2 barrel profile.

Fight me faggots.

>>35076191
Are you my fairy gunfather. California doesn't seem so bad anymore. My gf has a family friend who's like a grandpa to her who I think was in Nam. Definitely gonna take him shooting once I build this.

>>35076230
>Are you my fairy gunfather.

Yes.

My dad is a Vietnam vet who used a CAR-15, and I've thought long and hard about getting him one of those Troy reproductions. I know he would never use it, but still.

>>35076246
Just seeing him hold it would be worth it. Also, why does Trouble require an ffl for a magazine?

>>35076251
Nvm, realized my mistake.

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>>35076217
>keep the barrel thin where thickness matters, but make it thicker where it's completely useless because you're too retarded to figure out why your bore straightness gauges don't want to go past the gas port, so you blame it on grunts bending the barrels, except it was just leftover copper fouling from jackets, so you essentially set a retarded standard for the next three decades for completely imaginary reasons but get away with it because everyone around you is even more retarded and ass backwards
>muhreens debil doge oohrah

I bet you also think the M855 was an improvement, and like it when people shit in your mouth, too.

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>>35076217
I don't fight retards, I laugh at them.

>>35076255
I take it back. It's asking for an ffl.

>>35070304
OG AR was good gun but limited by available material technology. With modern materials you can get near original weight with optic and other necessities attached. On the other hand most of those modern accessories/parts are just bling.

>>35076217
>Hey what would be a good barrel profile for our infantry rifle?
>Well, since weight and heat from sustained firing are both concerns, I think we should make the barrel thicker towards the chamber and then have it taper off towards the muzzle.
>Great Idea! Now take that concept, and do the opposite!

>>35076251
>>35076255
>>35076276

Good question, email them.

In the military 90%+ of the personnel would be just fine with an A2. The upgrades of having a rail/rails for an optic and other mission specific attachments like IR shit is pretty big for the trigger pullers.

In the civilian world, really all you need is a light, optic if you have the cash, and a grip if you like them.

Really the only plus side to the A2 is the 20" barrel.
5.56 is almost entirely dependent upon velocity for it's terminal ballistics; if it looses enough velocity or isn't stabilized correctly, it icepicks. Basically if you want good performance out of 55 and 62 grain ammo, you want a 20" barrel.

For whatever reason the US Army refused to admit that chopping five and a half inches of barrel off a rifle with a velocity-dependent round wasn't the best idea in the world, so they decided to fuck around with the ammo and try to make it do something it wasn't designed to. For reference, the Marines stuck with the A2 and A4 until very recently, and most other armies that use AR type rifles use the C7, which got updated with a carbine buffer and collapsible stock, but kept the 20" barrel.

Though it you really want to have your rifle four inches shorter that badly, you can buy some of that shiny new 77 grain stuff or just dump half a magazine into dudes.

What's a good A2 style fixed stock?

>>35073252

I've used a Kriss in Arma 3 KOTH with a shortdot and a suppressor I took off my handgun (that way I dont waste a perk) so that I could use it like a VSS and it worked very well for headshots up to maybe 200 meters.

>>35070497

OP, here's your answer. It's such a common gun and is cheap to personalize so people do it to have something that fits their specific preference and even have a more original look too.

>>35070304
>the original version of the ar 15
>posts a4 with a2 handguard

I look at that gun and all I see is S L O W

>>35077023
>A2
>pic says A4
:thinking:

>>35077036
Lack of RAS M5 threw me off m8 until I looked again and noticed the flat top.

>>35075743
when your fancy optic fails you then come talk to me.

>>35077050
See you in 20 years.

>>35077050
Anon, this is why people buy ACOGs and Aimpoints

>>35074205
I guarantee he had some el cheapo """A2""" handguards that didn't have heat shields.

>>35070772
I have optics in real life because my eyesight is kind of shit past 10 feet but I sometimes prefer to use irons in games. I've been playing a shitload of Payday 2 and now that they have a motherfucking skorpion I'm all over it. Along with the AMR-16. Both irons.

I'll honestly use both though, sometimes I like them, sometimes I don't.

>>35074205
I was worried they didn't but after taking them off I saw that they did, they just weren't very efficient I guess.

>>35077050
>le you'll be glad for irons when your fancy optic fails meme

Most military and quite a lot of civilian optics nowadays can take just about the same punishment as irons.
Yes, you can hypothetically take out any optic with a good, hard hit straight in the glass, but you can also take out just about any irons with a good, hard hit straight in the front sight post (or rear sight blade or aperture), so there's that.

>>35076326
I just ordered one from Troy directly. Free shipping and it was a lot easier.

>>35076984
milsurp

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>>35072847
>tfw the only AR I ever own will be a plain ass colt-style A2 heavy barrel

if it aint broke don't fix it

>>35077646
Oy vey

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>>35078013
>if it aint broke don't fix it
>says while advocating A2 HBAR

The absolute state of Anon.

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>>35078078
Is that an A2 stock

>>35078092

Are you braindead?

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>>35078109
>he can't tell the difference between an a2 and a1 stock

..and you call others stupid.

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>>35078162

You could have just said "yes."

>>35078078
>HBAR is too much of a change

ok, it's a little broke so fix it slightly

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>>35078078
>A2 Stock

So close. Soooo close.

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>>35078176
Holy shit, you're blind AND stupid. You always hear about mouthbreathers on /k/ but it's so much funnier to see them in action.

>>35076704
>For whatever reason the US Army refused to admit that chopping five and a half inches of barrel off a rifle with a velocity-dependent round wasn't the best idea in the world, so they decided to fuck around with the ammo and try to make it do something it wasn't designed to
The good news is the new ammo they came up with is pretty fucking great, you no longer lose anything by going with a 14.5" barrel.

>>35070304
A free-floated barrel is legitimately a significant benefit.
MLOK rails allow you to more cleanly and efficiently mount lights, or IR lasers for NV applications, which are both legitimately useful (flashlights moreso, imho) while being lighter and cleaner than traditional rails
Full length handguards let you brace the weapon against cover and concealment without distrupting the barrel (gives similar benefits as free-float)
Collapsing stocks aren't as necessary as a lot of people think they are, but if you're a woman or a manlet they're nice.
Fixed iron sights are honestly kinda pointless with how reliable, long-lasting and effective optics have become.

There's certainly a point at which enough is enough, but a lot of these "gucci" accessories do have legitimate upsides.

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>omg how tf do things like optics, foregrips, lights etc etc even do anything for anyone so edgy looking
I wonder how long until being a contrarian luddite isn't considered cool anymore.

>>35078013
>owning an HBAR
>as a civilian
>in the year of our lord 1911+106

Unless you're shooting national match with that thing, a heavy barrel is utterly pointless in a semi-auto rifle.

Guys
Maybe ars are diamond dozen, but like mausers and 1903 someday they will be a rarity.

>>35078239
He very likely lives in an Eastern Seaboard cuck state that has the HBAR exempted from a draconic AWB

>>35078239
>implying I give a shit

what's the point of the standard profile barrel other than weight saving?

>>35078239
I have an Echo Trigger. I prefer having an HBAR. But that's just me.

>>35078259
>weight saving
Anon, this is the most important feature of the AR15.

>>35078234
Once the Boomers finally hurry up and die off.

>>35078275

I don't ruck 150lbs on my back so it's a non-issue.

>>35078254
I didn't think of that.

>>35078259
>what's the point other than the entire point of the design

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>>35078284
It doesn't matter what you're doing, a lighter rifle is always better.

>>35078284
You probably only shoot casually too. Otherwise all that weight that far out front would impact your transitions.

The a1 looks sexy no doubt however:

>1:12 twist had no advantage over 1:7 or 1:9
>barrel not being free floated is bad for shifting the poi when supporting the barrel
>20" barrel is awkward to use indoors and around vehicles, great for getting 55gr up to enough speed not to be worthless but it is current year and we have nicer bullets than m193
>though "edgy" having rails on which to mount a light, ir, and grips is useful
>flattop upper is better for mounting optics, good optics are quicker and easier to use than irons no matter what fudds and faggots on /k/ will tell you
>the triangle handguards feel flimsy and cheap when compared to a decent rail

If you want an a1 clone for it ain't me swag go ahead, they are nice rifles, have a great balance, and are reliable despite the fuddlore. However if you want something more practical, useful, and that includes the 50 years of evolutionary improvements that the design has undergone then get a new style ar.

t. a1 clone owner

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>>35078092
>>35078162
>>35078182
>>35078187

Well fuck me sideways, I'm a complete retard and it has an A2 stock.
It's an actual A1 so it never even occurred to me to look twice at it. They probably replaced it with an A2 when it broke.
Damn, now it's gonna be such a pain to track down an A1 stock in good shape and get it imported.

>>35070304
That's a nice looking rifle, but it has no ability to easily attach a light or laser which are both things I like to have on my two ARs. Otherwise rifle is fine, I use irons anyway.

>>35078374
I got you senpai

http://www.gunnyssurplus.com/m16a1-buttst161.html

>>35078616
>NOT AVAILABLE FOR EXPORT

Thanks anyway.

>>35078630
>>35078374
didn't see you needed it imported, these two might work

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/m16originalgibuttstockwotrapdoorrefurbish.aspx

http://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/coltbs01.htm

>>35078323
>shoot casually

yeah I don't prance around a 3-gun course like an action movie badass

and even if I did, I wouldn't use a fucking AR

>>35078254
This is precisely the reasoning behind 90% of Colt National Match purchases

>>35078740
Not the guy you're talking to, but what would you use for 3gun?

>>35078740
>I wouldn't use a fucking AR
explain

>>35078765
>>35078817

that's actually a good question, i've never thought about it

but I'd be against an AR because 3-gun type courses seem like a real waste of the AR's potential for accuracy

>>35074080
it's an a4

>>35078959
They are? Some of those course have targets at a few hundred yards. Sure its not bullseye shooting, but hitting a silhoutte 300+ yards away while running around and cumming in your pants takes some skill.

>>35078959
And this, ladies and mentligen, is why you shouldn't run your mouth about things you don't know shit about.

>>35070304
I run a very neutral "forward" stance so I need a collapsible stock or the long A2 fixed stock will cam the rifle way out in front of me and leverage my arms. I run a night vision scope for passive overwatch so I need an upper rail. I run a laser and lights ICW an AN/PVS-14 for active engagements so I need forward railing for those. For basic use the old school A2 and CAR-15 in stock config are lwt killing machines. If you want the gun to perform to full capacity in any lighting condition then you will gain weight.

>>35079556
>I run
>I run
>I run

kys

>>35074817
120 dollars?

Is this even worth it?

>>35079596
Point taken. Thanks.

>>35079599

It's a $120 chinkshit tier clamshell plastic stock.
The guy who owns it has a complete clusterfuck of a 16" carbine gas, railed gas block AR, uses a magnifier unironically and got drop in MI handguards just so he could use the front part of the stock (and nothing else).
If that's something you aspire to be, go the fuck ahead.

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How do you do, fellow kids?

Gonna make it an A4gery one day, but I need to get a carbine first

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>>35074182
When you're such an incompetent fuckup you can't even get the top part of your drop-in MI quad to insert properly
That's really just one of a dozen reasons on display with that utter abortion of a build for why you should kill yourself, but that's at the top.

>>35074790
>It's not as cheap as it's made out to be. Feels pretty solid.

this was my experience when i saw one at the range. it's not magpul of course, but the hate isn't warranted.

>>35076156
the mean arms version doesn't actually require the ejection port mod. but it does drop the bolt, so it'll get chewed up eventually. bear flag is def the way to go.

I love the way it looks but throw some rails on that bitch

>>35079841
>>35081038

That upper is a $399 WPA in 6.5 Grendel. It sits on a DPMS lower. That's a Sightmark magnifier. Can I piss you off any more?

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>>35074196

>triangular handguard and 20 round mag

>A2 sights and brass deflector

>calls owner a fag

>>35083283
>I can't even put a handguard together properly, lolumad? XD
Man dude, sounds like you really won that one

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I built mine to be a modernized classic AR, fixed carry handle and everything.

Goes to show how it's all about tacticool these days, when I tried to sell it for a month and got no interest.

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>>35070304
Nothing is wrong with either but I prefer my Colt SP-1.

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>>35083890
But I also enjoy my A4 and M4

>>35083823
You've got the worst parts of the A2 with none of the charm of it being era specific that help people ignore them.

Carry handles suck,
Fixed stock suck.
Anti-roll pins make it seems like you did a shit job doing the lower or bought a shit one.
And terrible fucking sling.

Good luck with the sale.

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>>35083894
My FN M4.

>>35083823
Might have to do with the fact that anyone can build an A2 clone for like $600 these days and yours is neutered.

>>35083910
>Carry handles suck,
I wanted a fixed carry handle. I'm an 80s child
>Fixed stock suck.
I don't like telescoping stocks
>Anti-roll pins make it seems like you did a shit job doing the lower or bought a shit one.
I don't need them. Just felt like it
>And terrible fucking sling.
Just a $5 GI sling for range use.

>>35083924
What the fuck, when I tried to get my lower rail set up like that there was like 1/4 inch of space I lacked in order to secure either the front or rear KAC panel. It's all KAC too, the rail, the panels, and the grip. What's your secret?

>>35078078
I bow to your third pin master race, oh mighty registered FA lower.

>>35083946
Cuck state and only previously-registered ARs are even legal here. Got a few offers in the $800 range but no one too serious.

>>35083960
Bought a smaller cover from KAC.

>>35083946
Protip; if you see an A2 that has no flash hider or bayonet lug, the owner is an unfortunate soul living in some Eastern shithole like Maryland.

>>35083975
Looks like the same 2 panel and 4 panel I have. I just don't get it anon.

>>35083823
>unthreaded barrel (disregard if you're in a cuck state)
>non-matching furniture
>"I'm a retard and have no idea what I'm doing" pins
>dogshit sling
>waah guise it didn't sell immediately, it's the tactifools' fault

If you had an actual A2 clone you'd probably get a buyer eventually.
If you had an A1 clone it would sell like hotcakes.
When you slap together whatever tickled your fancy at the time, don't act surprised when people just build their own instead of haggling with you and then replacing parts anyway.

>>35070818
Mah nigga

>>35084012
Not that guy, but USGI A2 foreends and buttstocks 'often don't match. The stock being grey isn't unsual.

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>>35083924
Block 1 is best Block.
>>35083985
Just roll with it.

>>35084040

I meant the MOE grip.
Sure, it's simple to replace, but any non-stock part the buyer is likely to replace means less buyers.

>>35076251
They don't. If you order a mag they'll email to confirm it's fine to send to your door

t. did that

>>35070304
I do wish there were some cheaper factory rifles available. Most cost almost twice as much as a carbine version.

>>35084085
Stock A2 grips are evil. That finger bump never lines up for me. My dealer has a box of takeoffs for free.

The only good thing that modern ARs are capable of are rails for sights. All other rail systems are extraneous for civilian and police use.

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>>35070304
>What's wrong with the original version of the ar 15

Questionable extractor spring life, and a not-so-well-tuned gas operation depending on your gas system length and barrel selection.

Hey guess what. I built my midlength gas 16" barrel upper with a carbine spring (thanks /arg/ btw, I fucking asked you about this) last year. Guess what I determined last month? All of its parts are finally worn in and the BCG was cycling too fast. Had to get a stiffer spring and a heavier carbine buffer.
>>35078325
Also everything this guy said

>>35077091
>my eyesight is kind of shit past 10 feet

What are glasses?

>>35084141
>All other rail systems are extraneous for civilian and police use.

You dont use a mounted light on your AR?

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Polymer lower, freefloated barrel, sight rail, and possibly a better trigger are all very sensible upgrades to the original design.

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Who else is /SP-1/ here?

>>35086770
your front sight looks lower than tha back... is it?

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As someone who has used the M16A2 for many years I will say that it is usable and gets the job done. But it's simply not as practical as having a modular customized setup. Ergonomics do not make the shooter but they're still nice to have. Even my AK setup is not the classic style

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A1 a best

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>>35088881
Not my gun unfortunately, i'm just some noguns with a hard-on for polymer lowers.

>>35089335
>hard-on for polymer lowers
Literally why?

>>35089411
I was just thinking the same thing.

>>35084072
what optic is that.

>>35083890
all that needs is a three-prong flash hider and it would be perfect

>>35089450
Looks like a CompM4

>>35078078
Such a sexy gun. Honestly, an A1 is great for 99.9% of people, military or civilian, for practically any purpose. They're so hand and light and easy to point.

>>35078182
What's Bradley Cooper doing in the Wehrmacht? The Hangover 4: Eastern Front

>>35081148
I was trying it with a 1980 A1 AR15 and a Norinco 20" upper A1. It was having some issues. I'll be getting a more modern AR15 soon and I'll be looking to give a shot on that.

>ordered it from Canada
>they call me to verify the address
>they also tell me they're gonna ship it in a non descriptive envelope rather than the usual box they'd ship it in

Will have to give Bear Flag Defense version a try too. It looks to be far more reliable than Mean Arms version. The dropping of the bolt isn't as awesome as it sounds. It may take some practice doing though.

>>35070772
Irons are better in vidya because you don't have to align them, though. There is literally no advantage to non-magnifying optics in a vidya.

>>35070304
this desu

everything in /arg/ looks like complete shit next to an a1 or a2

>>35073863

>implying thats a A2

>>35092731
Depending on the optic, better field of view

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>>35093195
Nah.

>>35093269
>3 o clock millenium light
Keep choking that chicken

>>35093269
>implying those don't look like shit

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>>35093300
I mean, yeah. What the fuck do you think I'm going for?

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>>35093362
I'm sorry your tastes are doodie. </3

>>35076200
>A2 fixed stock is shit.
>A2 grip is shit.
>A2 handguards are shit.
>Fixed carry handle is shit.
>Burst cams are shit.

Objective wrong.

>M16A2 is shit

Objectively right.

>>35093383
>no u
>has trip
>shitty AR
>faggot
cant make this up

>>35078217

M16-clones still has better durability due to longer gas system.

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>>35093433
>doesn't have a trip
>doesn't have an AR
>anonfag
Why do you even get out of bed in the morning?

>>35093456
>wanting a shit tier rifle that jams
no thank

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>>35093496
Anon-kun, no.

>>35093508
>implying
sweetie no

>>35093456

Tripfags, everyone...

>>35093456
What the fuck is going on here

I am genuinely concerned

>>35093269
regarding carry handle scopes, I use a LP mount and a 3-9-40

>>35093456
Explain this shit. What the actual fuck am I looking at?

>>35077001
>that way I dont waste a perk
shiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet why didnt i think of that. dont like the vector enough tho, bu thats clever. if i ever fire that up again ill do that with the notamp5k and a 9mm silencer

>>35092731
Better sight picture?

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>>35089411
>>35089432
Very minimal weight savings for pretty much no downsides, so it's more or less just because of my personal autism.

>>35077050
When your slow target acquisition and difficulty at longer ranges get you killed, I'll be sure to laugh

>>35078243
But consider this, most AR's are sold with rails or sights these days, we're not ruining historically significant guns

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>>35097680
>slow target acquisition
>with irons

>>35070304
The standard handguard is the most comfy but the carry handle isnt something I like, I prefer a rail there to put a red dot and a flip magnifier. I've been torn for a long time replacing the handguard with a rail but the thing is so much comfier than my friends rail.

>>35097751

Compared to a reflex sight or a variable power scope at 1x?
Abso-fucking-lutely.

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>>35070304

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>>35097837

>>35089411
>>35089432
Someone hasn't watched the InRange WWSD videos

>>35097818

how much faster are we talking here

>>35090718
You know, apart from the 4 MOA point of impact shift when you dumb a magazine

>>35098001
Not with modern manufacturing technology tho.

>>35070304
>Adjustable stock for comfort and different application or shooters
>Adjustable and accurate optics
>Rail space for accessories
>Not having a plastic handguard

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>needing handguards

>>35098091
>needing to comment

>>35098068
No. But if you've got an original SP1, that's not modern technology. And if you're buying a new rifle, then what's even the point of building an obsolete variant of the design other than not being able to find/afford an original?