Uncommon or rare calibers

>>35066462
Also to note it came with with 19 rounds of Kyoch and I believe 6 rounds of surplus wouldn't imagine this stuff has dies under $50

I have one of these with 50 rounds of 6.5 dutch. Im kinda afraid to shoot a rifle that is from 1893, but I will probably take it out within the month.

The en blocs are easy to find, and cheap. I have a .30 cal ammo can full of them. Ammo isnt impossible to find. But it will runn you upwards of $1- 3 a round. Not to mention it is left over from ww2 most of the time.

The ammo I have is from the 30s and I am almlst positive it will shoot. I have intentions of reloading the brass. If you have to male brass, I think there os a guy on Calguns or AKFiles that put the brass sizing info. You can make brass from triming and necking .303 british.
Also Ian (inronically enough) has tons of info on the ammo of you can find it. I have the link saved on my laptop, but its in my truck right now and I am at work. If this thread is not dead when I get home tonight, ill post it. I may even start a thread if this one prunes. So watch for it. Otherwise, good luck with the gun!

>>35066489
Thanks man I've never resized brass before but I have some .303 lying around so I'll give it a go

>>35066462
I have a Swiss Veterli and two boxes of unobtanium ammo with it

>>35066462
I own a Swiss K31. Bought it from a gun shop for $350. It came with 50 original, still sealed rounds from Switzerland.

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>>35066502
I havent either. I reload straight walled and shotgun shells mostly. Necked cartridges are something I am looking to get into here soon. Resizing honestly doesnt look that bad. He explains it pretty simple.

>>35066462
6.5 Swedish

>>35066533
I've got a 6.5 Swede and everyone makes ammo for it Wolf does PPU, S&B so its actually pretty common

6.5 jap, 7.7 jap, and 30-40 krag.

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10.4x38mm Centerfire, 7.5 Swiss Ordnance Revolver, 7.5x53.5, 7.5x55. I may like Swiss milsurp quite a bit...

>>35066462
.351 WSL and .43 Spanish. 7.5 French and .30-40 Krag have proven to be a bitch too.

8x60R/8x56R Portuguese

>>35066462
It used to be my Schmidt Rubin with 7.5x53.5, but I sold it, so now I suppose my 7.35 Carcano takes it, maybe tied with my 7.7 Type 99.

I'm realizing I have a gap in my jap weaponry and need to get a Type 38, and a Nambu pistol.

>>35066507
I have one of these too. And there's no way to obtain ammunition unless you're a reloading wizard.

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.22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer

>>35066895
>I'm realizing I have a gap in my jap weaponry and need to get a Type 38, and a Nambu pistol.

I have 8 rounds of 8mm Nambu that was in a box of happiness of gun supplies from a yard sale a year or so back. Everyone I have offered them to either has no use for them or thinks that theyre spooky reloads or something and because of this I am going to end up buying a jap pistol just to shoot these 8 goddamn bullets that no one wants.

>>35066561
But it's the most uncommon round I have. Because it seems every time I go to look at something like an Arisaka or some other rifle chambered in rounds that are non-existent I'm stuck turning it down because it's been mutilated through sporterization.

>>35066946
I have a sporter I'm converting to center fire to shoot some center fire brass I have. But I have two 1970s boxes of the rim ammo in mint condition

>>35066462
In order of size
6mm Navy
.55 Boys
14.5x114
57x303R

>>35066462
I wish someone would take a modern ballistic science look at .25-20 winchester.
It's a necked cartridge .002 shorter than 5.7x28, it has less velocity but more M/E.
It could be a good handgun round.

Idk maybe 7.7 japanese which really is not that rare

10.35 italian ordinance. Grandpa had an old bodeo revolver he bought off a guy. Never shot it cause he can't find ammo for it.

>>35067746
I cannot see that happening simply because its a rimmed cartridge.

Worst I got is .577-.450

I have 10 kynoch rounds inna box, but Im holdin onto them. Fired another 10 a few years ago and had only 1 dud and the rest were hangfires.

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>>35066659
>>35066895
One thing I've wondered about is the Swiss Mannlicher M1893. When I look online, they say only to fire GP90 through it. That makes sense for the older Schmidt-Rubin rifles, but the Mannlicher is a pretty strong action. If the M1893 was rechambered, could it handle GP11?

(not that I have one)

Also on a Swiss note- if you have an old 1872/78 or 1878 revolver, .41 Magnum cases will work as a basis for reloading. Unfortunately the bullets are heeled (and paper patched), so you'll need to search for molds.

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>>35067746
>>35067945
Works in a revolver.

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7mm weatherby magnum
at least $50 for a box of 20, most go for around $80

>>35066462
I have 3 Arisaka Type 99s chambered in 7.7 Japanese.
Since Im a poorfag I take 30-06, 270 and 25-06 I find at the range and resize it to 7.7 Jap.

When I get the money Im rechambering one of the Arisakas to 308, It has a completely ruined barrel and no mum so i feel its not going to bring shame to the emperor.

>>35067000
The only .22 that can go Mach 22!

>>35068031
I too have wondered that. I have an 1893 and considered rechambering simply for more ammo availablity. From what I can tell, the barrel is nutted on similar to a mosin nagant (if that wording makes sense)

>>35068047
That it does. But how much research and design has been put into even .357 mag or .38 special in the past decade. None if any. The issue with it being rimmed means that it is only going to be used in a revolver and revolvers are to some sense outdated. Personally, I often still grab my cc as a little charter arms .38 before I grab anything else. Its what I am comfy with and a bunch of neckbeards can post all the data they want on why its wrong, but that doesnt change my opinion on it. I love revolvers as much as the next guy. But one must understand that theyre a dying breed. I wont deny that.

.25-20 would be a great round I am sure, but would fill too niche of a market to be profitable. Much like 7.62 tok, it was ahead of its time and passed up. Look at hornady that tried to bring back the .25-40 (I could be off, im trying to remember. Could be .25-?). It flopped because a round that old, no matter how modernized, is not going to fill the lastest fad market or the common calibers

>>35068313
.25-45 sharps is the round. Ofc I remember the second I post.

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>>35066507
I saw a dudeman on GunBroker that was converting Vetterli bolts to centerfire.

Not sure if its any good but there's that option at least.

>>35066462
I've got this Remington Model 81 in .300 Savage. Anyone who makes it makes it in ultra expensive hunting rounds that cost almost $1.50 a pop

>>35068122
Fuck that price holy shit

>>35066467
Nope, you can get dies from RCBS for 200 or CH4D for about 120. I went with RCBS because I didn't know CH4D existed when I was getting my dies.

>>35066462
either 30-40 krag or 7.7mm Japanese

both of those are either impossible to find or retardedly expensive.

I need to start reloading.

>>35068420
Hey it's me again and I wanted to say I'm still glad you have a son that likes guns like you do ;)

>>35066462
Out of curiosity, why did you buy that gun?

>>35068499
this is why people stop tripping dude

>>35068499
That reference is so old ita gonna start drawing social security next month.

7.7x58 JAP
Not exactly rare, but only one company makes it anymore that I can find, and it's about $1.50 ea.

>>35068351

Try having a Model 8 in .32 remington. No ammunition produced, like 1 company makes brass and it's damn near $2 a case. I love it and my Model 14, but they're expensive to shoot.

>>35068700
Fug

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>>35068351
it's unfortunate the weatherby is so expensive to shoot, because it's a nice rifle

>>35068692
Had a 1000 rounds made special order for me. Life time supply plus the ammo I've bought at gun shows including AA rounds that are APHE.

>>35068692
load your own then. PPU makes cheap brass, Norma makes more expensive, but better brass. Dies are $32 new and a single stage, you can pick up on ebay for $40. All of a sudden, when you're not spending $1.50 every time you pull the trigger, you get to shoot more.

>>35068122
Weatherby Magnums are all fucking expensive as balls. Friend of mine has a Mark V in .300 Weatherby.

Sounds like a goddamn cannon when it goes off, though.

>>35067696
I'm gonna need some pics of the 57mm

>>35066462
.22 WRF. Great grandpa's colt police positive.

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>>35068734
a fake acu jacket on a T-bird with an over rated weatherby. wow. thats alot of gay in one picture...

Not super rare but 8mm Lebel isn't so easy to find. All I have is the 8mm ammo that came on the machine gun stripper clips and my gun wasn't converted for it :/ I have a few of the original flat nosed 8mm Lebel rounds I found in a lose box in a gun shop in Wabash, Indiana back in the 1980's.

>>35066462
7.35 Carcano and .357 Herrett

>>35068646
not op, but for the same reason some people sit down and enjoy a CRT monitor, tube radio, or old carburated car. There is a certain pleasure for some in operating pieces of history, experiencing the methodology and to an extent mentality that made this object.

>>35068161
Good idea. If its fucked, mind as well.

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>>35068939
Like this?

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>>35068989
that's a remington BDL; the T-bird is awesome you nigger

>>35068031

If it's the same action as the M95 series, I don't see any reason GP11 would be unsafe. The Austro-Hungarians rechambered theirs in the higher pressure 8x56R with zero problems

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http://www.loadxammo.com/index.html
http://www.ows-ammo.com/store/
http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/#swissrimfire
https://www.grafs.com/
https://www.buffaloarms.com/ammunition
figure i'd just leave all these here for those in need of old obsolete hard to get ammo

.30 carbine. Not too rare but it's not common.

6.5 Jap, its just a very pleasing cartridge to look at

>>35066462
either .50-70 gvt or 22 savage high power. a nightmare to find them but i have gotten lucky once for each.

>>35066462
ok, radical idea here, if PPU still produces your caliber, it's not actually rare. also 7.5 swiss is really not very hard to find.

>>35066462
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/guest-post-shooting-the-6-5mm-dutch/

here is the link I was mentioning OP

7.5swiss but to be fair same goes for my Kar98k and No4 MK2 considering that current production ammo are weak lawyer loads.

Got a couple of .577/450 floating around, I've only shot my martini 3 times because it's a bitch to find.

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I have a few contenders -
7.65x20mm French Long

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>>35070266
7.65x21mm Mannlicher

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>>35070266
7.5mm Swiss Ordnance Revolver

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>>35068122
>falling for expensive fuddshit

>>35068737
Where/how, and at what cost, please?

>>35070338
>what are nice things

I don't think I understand this kind of gun buying

I have a hard time justifying a $250 case of .38sp, why do you guys buy guns that have maybe one case of ammo TOTAL in circulation and pay $2500 for it?

Like yeah collecting guns is fun, I have 10. I don't see why you'd collect stuff that cannot feasibly be shot

>>35070421
See>>35069478, its out there if you want it, its just a labor of love

>>35070436
Maybe I just don't have enough yet to want to venture out like that, but I try to actually shoot my guns. I get urges to buy ammo if I have less than 200rds on hand, and spending that much on so little just seems crazy.

7,63 Mauser

>>35070549
one day you will understand, when you're older. Also reloading helps, something soothing about reforming brass shotshells and meticulasly measuring authentic swiss black powder

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Two things fascinate me (not that I've done either)

rimfire reloading with a 22 as a primer...

>>35071089
... and pinfire reloading. I'm looking to get a pinfire revolver of my own soon.

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>>35071118
forgot pic

Vz52 in 7.62x45

no one makes it. not even prvi or sellior.

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>>35069478
Those are some helpful links also sauce me pls

>>35071151
i have at least two hobbies, old guns in obsolete calibres, and big sexy ayys, and i am helpful if not anything
http://just-side-rube.tumblr.com/tagged/jiralhanae

>>35071142
https://www.buffaloarms.com/7-62x45-czechoslovakian-ammo-123gr-sp-spitzer-boxer-primed-box-of-20-amo76245

>>35071201
that price per round though.

>>35071253
yeah thats the price of old guns, but you can keep the brass and reload

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I nominate 8mm French Ordnance revolver ammo, at $50-80 per box of fifty.

And Austrian 8x50r, which no one sells at all.

>>35071118
I have one in .12 it's great fun and easy to do. The French assholes don't sell a mold for the bullet so I'm trying to get one made or find a .44 cal bullet that fits the case.

>>35071322
who makes reloading supplies for pinfires?

>>35069114
v sexi anon, what's that cannon above it

>>35068351
You can convert the bolt yourself

>>35071258
it's AK bullets and carcano brass.

both of which are mass produced by european companies.

>>35071351
Some French company just google it

>>35071384
Recoilless rifle

>>35068313
If you actually have an M93 don't go fucking with it please. Loading for GP90/23 is the same as loading for GP11 just with 10% less powder. You use the same dies, bullets, primers and powder. You may need to trim the brass down a tiny bit if the chamber is super tight. I shoot my 1889 all the time in this manner with no issues and very good accuracy.

>>35066462
11mm Mauser.

>>35072871
>11mm Mauser.
what er Gewher 71s goin for these days?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCb09o0HKiA

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.455 webley. I can usually find ammo for the others :(

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>>35073550
Fiocchi still offers .455 but I've been shooting reloads with Fiocchi and Hornady cases for the past few years.

>>35073776
Yes but it's never in stock. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places

.357 magnum :^)
Fuck having to look everywhere for a box of snowflake cartridges.

>>35068420
>The virgin RCBS
>The CH4D reloading die

>>35066946
reloading rimfire isn't that hard

>>35067171
>8 rounds of 8mm Nambu
some GI found a jap magazine on some godforsaken pacific island and stuck it in his pack 75 years ago

I have 98 rounds of .41 AE in my possession

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>>35074552
just cut down 45 colt cases then
OR
make your own, .450 adams style cup_and_washer style cartridge

>>35066526
>there will never be a double barreled bolt action mosin nagant rifle

This hurts really bad.

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>>35070266
>>35070286
>>35070311

>Drake outta nowhere
Wew lad didn't think you still posted.

>>35066462
Most uncommon in my collection is probably .30 Luger/7.65x21mm Parabellum.

Not readily available as I've never seen it in a physical store, but decently cheap online

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>>35074776
How do CH4D dies work exactly?

>>35066462
Black powder
.43 Spanish
.43 Mauser
577/450 Martini Henry
58 cal muzzle loader
Smokeless
.280 Ross
8x56R

>>35076620
>How do CH4D dies work exactly?
The same as any other reloading dies. As far as quality goes, I would say it is a step above RCBS/Lyman/Hornady, but I would hesititate to call them premium, like Redding.