Med /k/it

>>35062704

>Heroine
This kill the pain.
>Red bandana for wounds
People won't know you're bleeding, think it's just a fag fashion statement.
>Hello kitty bandaids
For when shit gets real.

>>35062947
I like u

>>35062704
In my car? All the stereotypical tactical trauma shit.

On my person every day? A Benchmade Triage, a cotton t-shirt, and two RATS tourniquets

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>>35064207
>RATS tourniquets
>Using a medical product with no peer reviewed support

>>35063358

I like u too.

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>>35062704
>Outside:
Trauma Shears, good ones
Black Sharpie
CAT Tourniquet

>Inside:
1x Roll of Kerlex
x1 Roll of Coban
BLUE/PURPLE Nitrile Gloves (Black is tacticool and wont show blood as easily during a trauma sweep)
2x Triangle Bandages
1x Large Roll Medical Tape
1x Small Roll Clear Medical Tape
3x 5" x 9" Abdominal Pads
4x 4" x "4 gauze pads
2x Occlusive Dressing/Petroleum Gauze
1x IV Start Set
NPA

>Still to Add:
Needle Decompression Kit
Basic Meds: ODT Zofran, Neosporin, Benadryl, Aspirin, etc.
Maybe a few bandaids
Maybe a 500cc Bag of Saline and drip set

>>35064250
I've stopped my own pulse with one on four different occasions and a buddy's pulse once in training, so I know they work alright. Plus if just one doesn't work on an especially fat/muscular person, I have another. I keep them both wrapped around my leg under my pants. Also RATS is great for using on kids and animals. Nothing beats them for EDC imo. If you carry a CAT all day any day then more power to you, that's just not me with my work and my wardrobe requirements

>>35064250
>Peer Reviewed Support
Dude tourniquets can literally be made out of shit you can find on accident. Bystanders use belts and other shit with just as good of results.

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Stuff. Also things.

1x CAT gen7 TQ
1x SOFT-T W
Rip Shears Trauma Shears

Vacuum-sealed:
1 pair Nitrile gloves
1 pair HALO Seals
1x Nasal Airway,
1x 4” Israeli Bandage,
1x QuikCLot Combat Gauze LE
1x Compressed Gauze
1x Mylar Blanket
Polycarbonate Eyeshield
1 x Ten Tac Med Tips card

In 2nd kit, all of the above, not sealed, plus burn dressing, extra rolls of guaze, SAM splint.

And the training to use it all effectively.

>>35064449
Since when do accident investigators carry guns?

Certainly not larping gear.
Dumb fuck

In my medkit are a couple of waterproof bandaids, those cleaning towelettes you get from hotwing restaurants, and a few tampons.

>>35064783
since niggers started shooting at anything and everything, including EMTs

>>35064831
Unironically better than 90% of /k/ anons' medkits.

>>35064534
What is that small black pouch?
What does it attach too?
>>35064831
Grandma tier

>>35064452
That's autistic.

>>35062704
fuck ton of gauss
band aids
cpr mask
antibiotic cream
90% isopropal
tumbs
aspirin
sewing kit
peroxide
cloth tape
gloves
scisors
burn cream
anti itch cream

>>35064957
No TQ?
no NPA

Any medkit without bug spray is either retarded or lives in some haji shithole.

>>35064831
For the love of the /k/ube take the tampons out of your kit. They are shit at stopping anything beyond a bloody nose.

Get some gauze, the hemostatic variety would be preferred.

>>35064987
>Taking that post seriously
In my EDC loadout is a combo tazer+pepper spray tool I bought at a strip mall, as well as a pair of knitting needles for stabbing enemies.

Why does nobody in this thread have a fucking chest seal in their med kits?
If you're working with firearms, a sucking chest wound is not a rare thing.
Also I reaally fucking hope you guys have a clue what you're doing, it's really easy to accidentally fuck someone up while trying to help.

>>35064970
only have some basic training
what is a NPA

>>35065039
I do.
>>35065070
nasopharyngeal airway
blue tube that goes in nose. Helps them breath if airway is bstructed.
Get a CAT tourniquet. Great for any extremities exluding head. They're easy to use, just get them high and as tight as possible.

>>35065039
Mine has a chest seal retard
>>35064449

I keep mostly
>a shit ton of bandages
>gauze and stuff
>tweezers
>asorted meds
>wipes and antibiotic ointment
>bug bite stick

Its moatly for /out/ but I plan on putting more combat related stuff in it at some point

>>35064957
>cpr mask
That brings me back

Burn ointment is rarely recomended any more I'd just toss it.

>>35064829
Med Kits are actually pretty practical to have near you at all times.

>>35065163
i use it more often than anything else in the kit
>welder

>>35065111
>high and tight
>wanting to loose the the entire limb

Try for two inches above the wound if possible, and adjust high if you need.

>>35065286
This

>>35065286
You're extremely unlikely to lose a limb if you get medical care within a few hours.
It's possible for the veins to retract below the wound and cause the tourniquet to need to be placed higher than you would think. Telling untrained people to put the tourniquet high is a safe suggestion.

>>35065286
I'll follow the advice given to me by my experienced corpsman. You can do it by the books.

>>35065306
Thanks friend.
Same reasons I was told.

>>35062704
I-its osha certified. Not joking this is in my bug out bag

>>35065321
An enlisted Corpsman vs full blown doctors. I'll stick with the doctors.

Hard liquor for the pain and a .38 for anything I probably won't survive.

>>35065337
>>35065286 is a doctor? I doubt it.
And doctors have an occupation in a certain area of medicine. They're not all field/trauma medicine specialists.
The realization that tourniquets really aren't that bad to use for a few hours is relatively recent and took place with military studies (as with a lot of trauma medicine). Older doctors or simply doctors in an unrelated field may not know the details of modern field care.
If a doctor is treating you they can use a fancy controlled pressure cuff for a tourniquet and apply it wherever they want. In the field you're not going to be able to properly evaluate where to put the tourniquet and putting it higher than necessary is much better than lower than necessary. That doesn't mean you need to put it all the way up your limb for any wound but giving it a good 5 inches is a good idea

>>35064460
>Without a windlass, improvised tourniquets failed to stop bleeding in 99% of tests (79 of 80 tests). With a windlass, improvised tourniquets failed to stop bleeding in 32% of tests (p < .0001).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26125163

This is under test conditions, too. In a real life situation you're likely to have even worse results. TQ's do have risk of complications if improperly applied.

>At one collaborative
hospital with detailed ED records and photos available, all six improvised tourniquets encountered were venous tourniquets
and required replacement with a CAT tourniquet to prevent ongoing extremity exsanguination and effect hemostasis upon arrival in the ED.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25710432

>>35065449
>In total, 27 tourniquets were applied
>All tourniquets were improvised, and no commercial, purpose-designed tourniquets were identified.
How does this even happen? There had to be cops and EMS responding.

>>35065481
>There had to be cops and EMS responding.
Cops probably dont carry TQs like they should.
EMS probably has better shit than TQ

>>35065487
For a mass casualty incident like that there are certainly too few EMS responding in the early stages to get all the victims in an ambulance with better equipment. Using commercial tourniquets and only putting the most severely injured in the ambulances would be a good solution

>>35065506
I believe more people should carry a TQ. Imagine if every vehicle in the states had a TQ in the door pocket.

>>35065481
37 per cent were applied by EMS. It doesn't break down how many of the remaining were applied by whom, but does state some were applied by those with medical training (ranging from off-duty soldiers to physicians).

My understanding is at this time Boston EMS weren't issued commercial tourniquets, however I believe they are now (as a result of the bombing).

>>35065487
>EMS probably has better shit
If your service isn't issuing commercial TQs, then they're probably not issuing anything else as good. Options exist (TXA and haemostatic gauze for example), but I doubt Boston EMS had either at this time.

>>35065286
Most guidelines (written collaboratively with physicians and other professionals) I've seen lean towards high and tight. Mainly because it's a) easier for laypeople, b) allows quicker administration as it might take time to identify wounds and c) because arteries are elastic and can contract upwards away from the wound, giving you an inaccurate mark for the TQ site.

Also, it's generally accepted these days that you can have a TQ applied for around 2 hours minimum without an lasting neurological damage. The longest case I'm aware of was for, I think, 6 or more hours with minimal damage.

>>35065535
>>EMS probably has better shit
>If your service isn't issuing commercial TQs, then they're probably not issuing anything else as good. Options exist (TXA and haemostatic gauze for example), but I doubt Boston EMS had either at this time.
Haemostatics aren't really a replacement. By "better shit" he probably meant some sort of controlled pressure cuff they might have in an ambulance.

>>35062704
Some Band-Aids, Neosporin, comprehension bandage, celox.
That's it.

>>35065545
>he probably meant some sort of controlled pressure cuff they might have in an ambulance.
That's exactly what I meant.

>>35065545
Agreed, neither of those are "replacements" for a tourniquet.

I think the EMS improvised TQs varied, but most were rubbing tubing with forceps acting as a windlass. A BP cuff definitely would have been viable (a service near me specifically encourages the use of one as an arterial TQ). The biggest issue I see with it though is if it's pretty old, the velcro might give way.

>>35065535
It was 16 hours, not 6*
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17414556

>>35064900
BFG micro trauma kit carrier.

Attaches to belt or molle.