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Visiting girlfriend's aunt and uncle for the weekend. They've known me for a year now and know that my gf and I are both concealed carriers. They dont like guns but respect the fact that my gf and I do and vice versa. Last night we all went out for dinner and on the drive back the topic of guns came up. It was just a casual discussion and her aunt asked if I had been carrying that night.

I said that I was and she started asking me all these hypotheticals about if I thought someone should tell someone they are carrying when they ride with them or come to their house. I told her that is subjective but personally I didn't think they should because the law doesn't require it here and it would defeat the purpose of concealed carry. She then flipped the fuck out on me saying how disrespectful that was, etc. When I tried to clarify my view she jumped all over me for being rude and trying to argue with her and then started acting like I was dangerous and unhinged. Mind you, i never once raised my voice and the only reason I continued to talk about the issue is because she started hounding me with questions. I wound up leaving the room once we got back to their house and have been walking on eggshells since then.

Anyone else ever dealt with this kind of irrational shit? Clearly, if I knew someone had an issue with guns in their home then I wouldn't carry one there. The issue here was that my gf and I have both told them in the past that we carry "everywhere" and they seemed fine with that and never once expressed such a strong dislike for them. So for her aunt to make a complete 180 was baffling.
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Learn to greentext fgt
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>>35060415
>tl;dr gf's aunt flipped the fuck out on me for carrying a gun while we were out in the city for dinner
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Idk what it is with anti-gun people being so loud and angry about funs. Nobody had this issue 50 years ago, I just don't understand why liberals are against all things fun
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should have pointed out that the person who was armed was the calm and reasonable one there, unlike the person that was against guns acting irrational
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>>35060415
Couldn't you have just said no I'm not carrying? If they don't have to know then they shouldn't know, thats the point of CCing. It should be treated like the status of a firearm; its always loaded.
ie if youre asked if youre carrying, the default answer should be no
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>>35060452
I usually will do that to a stranger or someone I dont really know. I only said it because I know them better than that and thought they were fine with it.
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>>35060415
Alzheimer's is a hell of a drug.
If you're comfortable enough with the uncle you might want to ask him what you did wrong (or what her issue is). Also what state are you in, and on a scale of 1-10 how liberal crybabby are they?
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>>35060415
>Anyone else ever dealt with this kind of irrational shit?
Yes, Here's the distilled version of a conversation I had with a friend I've known since high school a couple years ago:

Ordinary people should not have access to high-capacity semi-autos. All purchases should have to have background checks.
>(Point him at FBI.gov, point out that 323 people died from rifle fire in 2011). What problem are you trying to solve?
To prevent death. (He actually said this). Plays the 'do you think I should be able to own a nuclear weapon'? card.
>You think the bangers in Oakland and Compton will stop banging, anymore than they obey the laws regarding drugs?
Maybe not, but good gun control will limit what they can get ahold of. Machine guns and RPG's are illegal, and you don't see them shooting people with RPG's. This proves gun control could work.
>So we can get rid of things by outlawing them. You a big fan of the War On Drugs?
No, but comparing gun control to the War On Drugs is facetious, because lots of people want to get mellow and forget about their problems, and not many people want guns. Don't you like beer? That's why people want drugs.
>he's comparing me drinking a six pack of Fat Tire to drug addiction
>de facto telling me he wants to legalize drugs and restrict firearms
>/mind blown
Why do you own guns, Phil?
>Self defense, target shooting, hunting, all-around fun
Why do you need a high-capacity semi-auto to go hunting?
>Why do I have to prove a need for a Constitutionally-protected basic right? And how is crippling five million AR-15 owners going to affect the crime rate at all? We lose more people to be stings than rifle fire. You want to prevent death, how about lowering the national speed limit to 30 mph?
But cars aren't made to kill. Guns are.

I don't see much of him or his family these days. It's hard to pretend to be friends with someone who wants the government to go full bad guys from Firefly on your ass.
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>>35060430
Some liberals are only considered liberal because of social issues. I completely support the 2nd ammendment and every Americans right to arm themselves.
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>>35061323
Gays ruin america and are the reason we can't have guns, God hates fags, fuck I love muslims so much, I wish they'd kill more gays.
Fuck you for voting for Pro-Fag politicians. Pro-Fag means anti-gun.
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I'm personally afraid of going off on a person asking me why I need a gun and telling them I obviously need it to rob old ladies, fuck whores after church service, and to shoot bank clerks, cops and kindergarteners in the fucking head, what else would I use it for, self-defense? Calling the person retarded asking me thinking the question was a smart question.

I'm afraid of my own autism sometimes
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>>35060415
eiter open carry or don't carry at all faggot
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>>35062594
2 hours without a (you)? You must be starving. Poor thing.
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>>35064163
what if he's on probation?
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>>35064163

Fuck off Zed you pedo shit.
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Daily reminder:

When you carry, and you get called on it, you are an ambassador of our cause.
Don't be an autistic little fuck, and don't make us look bad.
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>>35062901
Last time i had a conversation about gun control with my family it was a two hour conversation, with me pulling up facts and statistics on my phone every ten minutes because they obviously couldn't take me at my word.

Long story short, my sister asks me "don't you care about the kids at Sandy hook" at the end of the conversation, and I'm just incensed because I've already pointed out how anti gun zones attract these killers and bringing firearms safety classes back into schools would prevent this, so i just flat out said that no, i do not care about "statistical anomalies."

They haven't talked to me about it since. Did i sperg out?
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>>35060513

>Legalize drugs, ban firearms (and presumably all forms of lethal weapons afterwards)

>Letting government determine your right to self defense, but they allow you to get doped up all the time

Gee, I literally cannot see where this could go wrong at any point. Literally.
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>>35064244
Biggles was a fucking badass
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>>35064239
you got emotionaled. if they were willing to break contact with you after getting shit on by statistics they never really cared about debating in the first place.
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>>35064211
You know the only reason why tripfags leave there trip on is because you fags keep replying to them right? Using a trip on /k/ is easier (you)s than posting decent bait.
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>>35060415
I live in Australia I have quite few, which do you want to hear?

>The tale of the gunstore antigun fudd
>The attack of the Greens voters
>The grave dancer
>My social assassination (or why I learned to love guns and stop worrying what my "friends" think)
>National lampoons "Guilt Trip"
>The day my gf found my guns and became my ex gf
>SSAA FUBAR

I will be out of work in a few hours so will be able to expand then if the thread is up.
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>>35064287
>>35064239
>they never really cared about debating in the first place.
Aww the root of the problem see the issue is you're trying to use facts because you your self base your opinions on them, but liberal normies don't. Next time be sure to make a argument based on nothing more than emotion like
>You don't want me to own guns?
>You don't think your own son should be able to protect himself? You want me to be killed?
>Huh is that what you want?
or
>So you think I'm going to go on a murder spree? You think I'm a danger?
>Man I thought you loved me! My own family thinks I'm a killer.
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>>35064495
please do
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>>35060513
Seeing this convo and reflecting on it for a second, here's what I think of in hindsight

>Plays the 'do you think I should be able to own a nuclear weapon'? card.

False equivalency. One is a WMD that has an uncontrollably high kill range once detonated, the other is a small arm that targets individuals that very well may be trying to kill you

>good gun control will limit what they can get ahold of. Machine guns and RPG's are illegal, and you don't see them shooting people with RPG's. This proves gun control could work.

Guns do make violent people more dangerous, but they also make those concerned only with defending themselves more defensible. That utterly eliminates any monopoly of force a big criminal could hold over someone.

>lots of people want to get mellow and forget about their problems, and not many people want guns

Plenty of people want to own guns for a variety of reasons, the vast majority of whom are in no way violent. Plenty of people get anything but mellow on drugs, even ones that are legal or may be advocated for becoming legal.

>Why do you need a high-capacity semi-auto to go hunting?
I don't. There's a hell of a lot of people that will never need to use a gun, but denying them their access to one is a risk that could do a lot of damage.

>But cars aren't made to kill. Guns are.
That doesn't deminish a car's lethality. There's an indefinite variety of ways to kill either a target or a group of of innocents that don't require guns. A lot of those ways ultimately do more damage as well, like making a bomb with ingredients that would simply be impractical to restrict. But no one is going to reasonably defend their life with an IED. Guns are in many ways dangerous, but good natured law abiding citizens have a right to be dangerous to enemies big or small if they truly have to be.
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>>35064495
Grave + ex gf
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>>35060513
>should I be able to own a nuclear weapon?
SHALL NOT
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>>35064495
My social assassination
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>>35066441
RECREATIONAL(TM)
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>>35064507
this tbqth
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>>35060430
guns*
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My girlfriend and her entire family hated guns when I first started dating her but I'm slowly converting them.

Conversation with her one day when we first started dating. On the way to a range date, mind you

>I don't think everyone should be able to have a gun anon.

>you're right, and that's why anyone who buys a gun has to go through an FBI background check.

>but what about the gun show loophole

>it doesn't exist, that's a load of horse shit created by the media. You still need a fbi background check there too

>how do these crazy mass shooters get guns then?

>Either private sale, or they weren't identified as mentally ill before the event

>You can buy guns without a store?

>yes, you can legally buy guns from another person.

Continued
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>>35060439
They're antis because they can't control their violent tendencies and impulses, and believe everyone else to be as unstable and dangerous as themselves. I heard a leftist anti coworker say "it's a good thing I don't carry a gun" after he blew up on someone for saying 'retarded' around him.
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>>35066654

>so it's like a black market.

>No, because it's not illegal. I've bought guns and ammo legally in a walmart parking lot many times

>what about machine guns? People shouldn't be able to own those.

>most people don't and can't afford them. They cost tens of thousands of dollars. Civilians can't own a machine gun made after 1986

>but what about the black market?

>THERE IS NO BLACK MARKET. No one is going to sell their $20,000 M16 to a gangbanger for cheap. The vast majority of guns used in crime are shitty used sub 300 dollar pistols and revolvers.

Ad naseum. She literally has no idea about guns, but her vote is worth as much as mine. More interactions with her family coming
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>>35066673
Go on
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>>35066673

Right after the senator baseball field shooting. Getting real sick of her family's shit. Slightly disgruntled with the relationship at this point. Conversation with her dad

>hey anon, did you hear about the shooting?

>yea, it's terrible. I'm really sorry to hear about it.

>the shooter used an sks assault rifle. That's your favorite gun, right?

At this point, I made eye contact and stared him down.

>Yes, I own 3 of them. What about it?

>Oh, nothing...nevermind. have a nice evening.
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>>35066673
>but her vote is worth as much as mine.
Its just how a republic works. Surely there's some subject you've voted on, on which you aren't autism-tier informed.
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>>35066705

Not too long after, her entire family started getting interested in guns.

>GF surprises me by purchasing a .50 brass case bottle opener and Sam Colt patent drawing posters

>her dad asks to go to the range. Buys a colt lightning antique 22 pump from a family member

>her dad begins showing me gun documentaries that he found

>her grandpa comes over for family dinner. I get hammered off wine and we talk about the m1 garand and his experience in WWII.

>girlfriend goes to grandpas house and shoots a ton of black powder and antique lever guns. Comes home asking me to buy her a 10/22 for christmas.

Fucking weird man. I didn't know what to make of the switch buy I'm going with it.
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>>35062594
I think fags should be able to defend their buttfucking with firearms if need be desu. Government get out
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>>35060452
Not just no, but no, nigga.
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>>35066707
>Its just how a republic works

Not him, but no, that's not how a republic works. That's how a democracy works.

The whole point of being a Republic is that there are certain inalienable rights that can't be taken away even if everyone wants to.
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>>35060513
>guns are made to kill

Guns are made to launch a projectile in a certain direction at a certain speed with certain accuracy. Where you send that projectile is on you.
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>>35066705
>>the shooter used an sks assault rifle. That's your favorite gun, right?
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>At this point, I made eye contact and stared him down.
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>>Yes, I own 3 of them. What about it?
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>>Oh, nothing...nevermind. have a nice evening.


What is it with anti-gunners being such fucking dicks to gun owners? If they were honestly afraid of guns and gun owners are all unstable nutjobs like they claim, wouldn't it make sense to try and not piss them off?

Then again I guess intelligence isn't an anti's strong suit.
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>>35066458
MEDICINAL
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>>35066813
The trucks thing has been great for pro-gun people. I just point out that extremist islam is using trucks now and killing as many or more people in Europe.

Usually ends the argument pretty quickly.
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>>35066859
I remember trying to use the "if they cant get a gun they could just use a vehicle" argument a lot years ago and would constantly get "then why does it never happen". Now that argument works great.
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I'd have pulled the car over and told her to call a cab.
Don't let people make you feel like you should "walk on eggshells"
fuck that.
Look- if there is ANYONE in your life that makes you feel little, worthless, dumb, or sad on a regular basis- CUT THEM OUT OF YOUR LIFE.

you don't have to have them in it, period.
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>>35064559
Engaging in dialogue with an anti is generally pointless. Their mind has been made up and they won't let pesky facts and statistics get in the way of what they believe is 'right'.
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>>35062594
This guy is on the verge of coming out the closet
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>>35066905
Your lonely ass must be great at parties.
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>>35060415
>Anyone else ever dealt with this kind of irrational shit?

Uh yes. My faggot cousin who thinks semi-auto military-styled guns are the devil incarnate started slamming me with every fucking insult he could think of when he learned I didn't agree with him and actually owned a couple.

I mean shit like "It's best if you never breed", "I know where you live" (literally wtf), "Youre just a fucking misogynist" (????) "Youre a fucking racist bigot" (????) and other stereotypical anti-conservative bullshit about political subjects we never even fucking discussed. This guy had an ego problem before he joined the Army and I think it's only gotten worse. He literally thinks those of us who didn't enlist are beneath him, going so far as to say that because I work a warehouse job means I am worth less than he is.

Our facebook shitfests got pretty heated, and not only was I having to deal with his bullshit but his faggot-ass family would jump in also. His mom, father and sisters didn't give two shits about the things he was saying to me right in front of them.

So I've cut all of them out of my life. I finally decided I don't need to maintain relationships with these people anyway since I never actually see them.
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>>35067208
This is my personal favorite of the collection.
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>>35067063
And you must be miserable every day of your life pretending to fit in where you don't.

I will pray for you.

Have a photo of a baby bunny.
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>>35067208
Just delete your facebook account and see how much better your life gets.
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>>35067242
I should, but i've removed the largest annoyances from it and that's good enough.
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>>35067228
Rather look at dem laigs inna background.
>move ya ass, baby bun-bun
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>Anyone else ever dealt with this kind of irrational shit?
Don't ever read Australian news, your brain will melt.
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>>35067262
For a real laugh/wordless scream look up QANDA. I've never even been to straya but I watch it, it's fucking amazingly retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOA_fKfpXLM

Today's episode was a fucking goldmine.
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>>35067063
not that anon, but I followed this advice years ago. I have a couple of good friends, a number of friendly acquaintances, and none of them make me feel like shit. Happier for it.

>>35067208
Good for you. Noguns regressives don't realize they're the ones driving the divide. People like your faggot cousin are the types who will literally vote for/endorse the creation of left-wing disappearance squads. Boggles the mind that we can't even disagree with the other side without them wanting us dead/locked up/gone.
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>>35067208
Was he a chaplains assistant or other useless MOS?
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>>35067271
question time is better
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>>35064235
Well said
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>>35060420
fpbp

In a tradition as old as time, OP is a faggot
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>>35067271
We're completely fucked, politically. We haven't had a Prime Minister get elected and finish his term in ten years.

I hope it continues, too. The only way we're going to get better is to first get worse.
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>>35067307
No idea. Probably doing whatever Specialists in the 3rd Infantry do
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>>35066654
Kek. Background check at a gun show. You obviously dont live in the south.
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>>35067343
So he's a pallbearer, gotcha.
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>>35060452
never let anyone know your power level, where i work everyone thinks i hate guns, that i think guns should be taken away. im like one of the most liberal people they ever met. i didnt vote for hillary because she didnt go far enough.

all the while i have a gun on my person and hidden in my desk incase debby the fuckin hippo goes on a rampage because someone ate her chocolate cake.

the liberals i work with are disgusting selfish Hippocrates, im slefish too but im upfront about it. i dont give myself a circle jerk because i put a bumper sticker about how i love black cock on my car.
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>>35064559
>That doesn't deminish a car's lethality.

A car that can be made to transport someone without killing is by definition a better car, as its purpose is in the transportation of someone from location A to B. Companies have been improving the safety of them for decades. With AI you will have even less deaths. A gun on the other hand that can't kill is literally useless.

>There's an indefinite variety of ways to kill either a target or a group of of innocents that don't require guns. A lot of those ways ultimately do more damage as well, like making a bomb.

Making a bomb is an inefficient and impractical way to kill for your average person. If it was then law enforcement agencies would all be carrying bombs instead of small arms. Guns as an issue is about the efficiency of killing provided by the legalization of firearms. This is really just moving the goalposts like the whole "people kill people not guns" nonsense from the 90s.
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>>35067380
>With AI you will have even less deaths.
FUCK OFF ALREADY
COMPUTERS ARE NOT GOING TO BECOME SENTIENT
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE REAL COMMUNISM THIS TIME, BUT JUST WITH COMPUTERS DOING THE WORK INSTEAD OF PEOPLE
FUCK
OFF
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>>35064239
>"don't you care about the kids at Sandy hook"
This hits me hard. Yes I care, it's one of the reason why I carry.

One armed person yelling "Stop" could have been enough to make that monster run away and blow his brains out. It could have turned a national tragedy into local story.
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>>35064495
please give us "my social assassination"
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>>35067228
bunny grows up to operate
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>>35067386
> Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel etc are all worried AI poses an existential threat to mankind
out of curiosity why do you think they are all wrong?
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>>35067425
and you're a redditor too! fuck off. smart rocket man and smart wheelchair man saying something is true doesn't mean it is.
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>>35067431
im asking you for an argument besides "BECAUSE I SAID SO"
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>>35067425
yeah these fellas are smart in there area, the problem is they speak outside there area of knolage where they know just as much as you and me, and were dumb. so just because they are"smart guys" people accept what they say even when they are talking out there ass about something they know nothing about. listin to specilits in there area, igore them when they are out of it.
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>>35067434
fuck off. there are no more arguments to be made with your type. any argument i give will just be rebutted with "but musk said so", "but exponential change microprocessors have you heard about how fast computers are by the way computers deep learning", or "neural nets"


we are not going to have sentient computers our lifetime. that's it. period. done.
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>>35060415
I don't have any stories because I don't deal with that shit. I never tell anyone I'm carrying. Ever. And if they see it, and don't like it, I literally tell them to fuck off back to their own business. You and your girl both need to grow a spine
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>>35067448
I dont think you understand, im not looking to argue with you, im just asking you to tell me why you feel the way you do. Why do you think
>we are not going to have sentient computers our lifetime. that's it. period. done.
you keep saying it but give no reasons
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>>35067460
i don't need to give any reasons.
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>>35067380
>guns are designed to kill
Yes, absolutely. Guns project lethal force and this is not debatable.

However, you missed the poster's last sentence:
> Guns are in many ways dangerous, but good natured law abiding citizens have a right to be dangerous to enemies big or small if they truly have to be.

The use of deadly force is justified in certain situations. Self defense is a universal human right.
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>>35067471
no you dont, you dont even have to reply, im just going to assume you dont have any reasons though.
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>>35067480
get fucked.
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>>35064163
I bet you're fat
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>>35060415
Just an FYI, "the law does/does not require it" is a garbage reason to the question of why you should or should not do something
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>>35067485
the entire southern hemisphere of the earth is actually composed of ants
>why do you believe that
I dont have to tell you :^) gg ez
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>>35066705

Bravo, sir.
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>>35066729

Marry her. Marry her now.
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>>35067226

Fuck his shit up.
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>>35067250

Report him. Service men advocating the death of US politicians, huge nono
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>>35067594
That's what I thought, but who the fuck would care this long after?
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>>35067425
>appeal to authority
Strong AI is a pipe dream.
http://www.doc.gold.ac.uk/~mas02mb/Selected%20Papers/1995%20AI%20Myth.PDF
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>>35067619
>appeal to authority
but im not making an argument or claiming they are right. Im literally just asking why they disagree.
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>>35067648
You literally are appealing to authority by asking why I disagree with le science men rather than posting research about strong AI and its feasibility.
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>>35067754
>I dont know how logical fallacies work the post
All I did was ask why you disagree with the "authority". I never made a claim that the authority was correct nor did I make an argument myself about AI. Nowhere did I appeal to anything to prove a point of mine because I made no points I only asked a question.
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>>35067773
>the science guys think ai will be a problem
>why do you disagree with these scientific authorities
>lol it's not appeal to authority
You're a fucking moron.
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>>35067793
please show me where I said they were correct or their argument was true. Pic related
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>>35067802
You implied it by bringing them up in the first place, faggot. Asking why someone disagrees with authority (which another Anon already addressed above) and then saying you're not trying to appeal to authority is just pedantry.
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>>35067830
>if you ask someone why they disagree with someone else you are automatically implying that the other person is right
please show me where I said they were correct or their argument was true.
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>>35067830
>"aspartame is bad for you"
>"weird thats not what my doctor said, why is it bad for you"
>"WOW NICE APPEAL TO AUTHORITY, THE FACT THAT YOU EVEN BROUGHT YOUR DOCTOR UP MEANS YOU AGREE WITH THEM"
>"dude im just asking why you thi--"
>"NO YOU'RE MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT ASPARTAME ISNT BAD FOR YOU"
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>>35067250
Shit like this makes me happy I deleted my facebook and stopped giving zuckerberg my info. What is pleasant about arguing with these normie dickheads? Posting shit like this on social media is tacky as fuck
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>>35066752
This desu. Turn gays pro 2a and liberal heads explode.
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>>35060481
Never tell anyone you wouldn't show your dick to that you are carrying. It Is tempting to tell people so it is a lesson everyone learns the hard way.
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>>35067830
you're a pedantic, annoying little shit. please get hit by a car. asking why you disagree with someone who is at least not retarded isn't an appeal to authority

you don't know why you think what you think. you're a child. neck yourself.
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>>35060513
I've always related most of their argument's to cars
>Why do you need a deadly assault weapon
Why do you need a sports car that is only designed to go massively above the speed limit
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>>35068728
1. You cant compare just boats, cannons, and superior numbers to heat seeking missles, tanks and planes that are literally impervious to small arms fire, and the government wiretapping literally everything you do on any electronic device. This is not apples to apples

2. America got bailed out of that war by the only two other biggest military powers in the world France and Spain, without them the nation wouldnt exist, and washington lost most of the battles he was in. You cant act like that whole minute man thing worked because it didnt. Youre literally investing in a plan that already would have failed had it not been for international intervention.

stop this meme.
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>>35067500
I knew it! Fucking Antman.
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>>35068871
And you also can't compare an AR-15 to a musket, faggot.
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>>35068871
Yeah, you cannot compare it. The Limeys' families were safe an ocean away that time.
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>>35068895
Yes thats exactly what i'm saying, the comparison is fucked nimrod.
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>>35068916
Nigga you dumb as hell.
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>>35062594
What if you're a gun owning fag?
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>>35066441

this desu
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>>35068932
>points out inconsistency
>anon points out another inconsistency and then acts as if its been BTFO despite he himself pointing out the fact that its still inconsistent

the logic here makes me wonder why people under 18 are allowed to post here.

oh wait...
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>>35067380

When NPCs stop getting stuck in walls i'll believe AI.
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>>35068970

The entire point of the image is that while the weapons the government has have progressed, so have the weapons the citizens have. No shit a missile isn't directly comparable to a ship, the point is that doesn't matter, citizens are just as capable of overthrowing a tyrannical government now as they were in 1776.
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>>35069020
>citizens are just as capable of overthrowing a tyrannical government now as they were in 1776.

Maybe in 3rd world shit-hole-istan but thats only if some of the military agrees with you because their paycheck got cut in half

If its that easy why didnt any of these alt-right people that are so insanely loud right now rise up with Obama was president, if it really is that simple?

give me a fucking break
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>>35069074
Maybe because they didn't think Obama was bad, but not bad enough to start a violent revolution over?

Kill yourself.

>i-it can't h-happen here! The government has drones and planes and w-will t-totally just bomb entire cities into submission if a revolution ever started! Th-That's how you win a civil war isn't it? N-no way it escalating to that point would bring in outside actors!
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>>35069074
Even a cruel and tyrannical government can't just run a shock and awe campaign on their own soil and people, and a tank can't fire a round into a power substation that's possibly being sabotaged. A conventional army of the US's stature has different goals and losing conditions all between fighting another conventional, a guerrilla force in another country, and a guerrilla force in their own country. If the US started fighting a major paramilitary of US citizens, the revolt may not win handily but the government would sure as hell lose handily
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>>35068871
Do you think rockets, missiles and drones can control land? Do you think they can capture critical infrastructure? If you actually want to control land, infrastructure and the populace inhabiting the area you need boots on the ground. It's the entire reason why the American military hasn't bombed the entirety of the middle east to dust - because you can only control land and infrastructure WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND
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>>35062594
I'm pro guns and support a lot of progressive stances but nowadays liberals are acting totally irrational.
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>>35060415
there's two issues here.

1) it's her house, her rules. If she doesn't like it, and you won't go without carrying, you should leave if she wants you to.

2) she's being stupid and irrational for sure. You probably would have been better off not saying you were carrying. otherwise, there's not much you can do to someone being irrational like that

>>35064239
>They haven't talked to me about it since. Did i sperg out?

wrong approach. When someone says you're an evil person who hates little chilluns and wants them to get gunned down, the response is "you're an asshole for accusing me of that". Obviously that's tricky when it's family, but think about it. They're saying you're some evil sociopathic nutjob who doesn't give a shit when a bunch of children get brutally gunned down. Of course you care about it, and she's a bad person for claiming you don't just because you like guns.
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>>35069204
It's because boomers/lobbyists have blocked off most of the avenues for genuine reform.

Also, switching from unions to campuses for a base of support allowed the left to detach themselves from reality.
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>>35064507
also this.

you can't respond to an emotional argument with statistics. all that does is it means you're putting their emotional argument on par with your facts and statistics.
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>>35066673
ignorance can be fixed. stupid is forever. sounds like your gf is just ignorant of guns and gun laws. educating her can work.

>>35066705
good on you for daring her dad to go forward with that implication. what a dick
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>>35067208
just throw shit at him about getting raped in the barracks, getting his nuts fondled by his sergeant, getting sent to buttfuckistan to murder brown people.
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>>35069098
OOOOOhhh so he just wasnt bad enough, thats what we say now that hes gone?

>k-killyourself waaaah

go back to playing CS;GO you have to be 18 to post here anyway.
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>>35067380
>car can turn an axle and move at 100mph
>not capable of killing people

lel
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>>35067882
fuck I hate people that pull this reversal of burden of proof crap in online discussions. happens all the time.
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>>35069269
>throw shit at him
I don't talk to him anymore. I don't give a fuck if he is on his deathbed. The guy wasn't really worth knowing before and he's not worth knowing now.

I can say that someone in his unit figured out which Jeep Wrangler belonged to him and dumped a fuckload of garbage into it. I've always wondered if it was a fellow /k/ommando.
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>>35060415
>I wound up leaving the room once we got back to their house and have been walking on eggshells since then
Why, if they get mad and you need to leave then so be it, they're the ones acting like asses and burning bridges. If your gf gets mad at you then you know whose side she's on and you dodged a bullet there too.
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>>35069074
is your argument really "well it hasn't happened yet, therefore it can't happen"?

how retarded are you?

>>35069179
exactly.

bombs and missiles and planes just break shit. They blow things to pieces. THey fuck shit up.

if the government's response to an armed rebellion is just fucking carpet bombing civilians, congrats, they just lost the civil war. half the military will defect, other countries will step in, and civilians will all turn against the government when there's US military tanks blowing up houses of innocent americans.
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>>35069275
>OOOOOhhh so he just wasnt bad enough, thats what we say now that hes gone?

He's still a piece of shit and was for the entire time he was in office. Even while he was the president I wasn't sitting around crying for a revolution, and neither were 99.99% of people that hated him.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Is it surprising to you that people can strongly disagree with someone politically, but realize he isn't *so* bad that they have to try and start a revolution over it? The whole point of the second amendment is to be a safety valve in case the government gets so bad it can't be fixed by peaceful means. We're obviously not there yet, and hopefully never will be.

>go back to playing CS;GO you have to be 18 to post here anyway

Did you turn 18 yesterday or something? You're acting like you just got your first pube and are making fun of all the other kids for not having them or something.

In the words of a great man, Sad!
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>>35060481
I fucking love showing people my dick. They just happen to see my gun at the same time.
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>>35069275
He really wasn't all that bad broham.
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>>35066671
Fucking lol. I've had a similar experience, my girlfriend's English brother telling me
>I don't think people should be able to own guns. I mean sometimes I just get so mad at Dad, I don't know what I'd do

I told him that me owning guns was great then because now we know for sure that not possessing a firearm wasn't the only thing stopping me from becoming a murderer.
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Why did you feel the need to carry a gun while going out to dinner? Was the restaurant in Yemen?
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>>35069881
Yeah. Also, why did he feel the need to wear shoes there? He must be in Yemen because thats the only place that has just piles of broken glass everywhere.
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>>35060415
And then the libtards got arrested for hating freedom, and me and the cop became range buddies
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>>35068940

join Pink Pistols.
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>>35060415
Yeah I deal with dumb cunts on a daily basis. Just realize that there's no pleasing some people, and people generally stick to their political beliefs regardless of facts.
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>>35060415
Just had one

> be me in south
> at sisters house for party
> mixed crowd
> start chatting with guy about too many squirrls
> says he has optic on air rifle
> kills the little guys out his back window which isnt too far from a walking path
> said wew, cool bro
> wife says we have too many deer
> mentions we about to pull out the ar15 to take car of them
> guy flips a shit
> asks us wtf we need an ar15 for
> cause we can bro
> didnt take it well
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>>35070326
> cause we can bro
not
>because 223 with proper shot placement is a humane kill

shaking my head
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>>35067387
>One armed person yelling "Stop" could have been enough to make that monster run away and blow his brains out.
probably not, he was autistic

also didnt that school have an armed guard anyway?
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>>35070383
>because 223 with proper shot placement is a humane kill

Not

>Well it's a larf, innit? No useable meat by the time we get done wif it, mate! Rock and fucking rooooooll!

Shaking my brain holster
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>>35070326
to be fair
>AR15 to go hunting
you have garbage peasant taste
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>>35069807
TBF, here in England suddenly legalising guns would be a fucking disaster. We don't have the culture or responsibility for them (inb4 nor does the US). Smaller countries where people live cheek-by-jowl would need a lot of adaptation to the idea of rifles in every home.
You're used to guns. He's not. Educate him.
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>>35070383

> owning an ar15

Moron
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>>35070438
>>35069807
most gun crimes are crimes of passion, or accidents, so hes not exactly wrong
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>>35070424

Another retard...

He was mad because we owned an ar15
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>>35070383

> cause we can
> not

So many autistic people on tonight.
Yes, because we can. I walk into a shop in my state and walk out with what ever the fuck i want.
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>>35070463
>He was mad because we owned an ar15
i would be too, for the aforementioned reason that using an ar15 to hunt makes you a garbage peasant taste white trash piece of shit

you might have the right to bear arms but thats no reason to be a classless mallninja
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>>35070572

Who is hunting with an ar15?
Stop being autistic.
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>>35070586
>Who is hunting with an ar15?
you, apparently:

> wife says we have too many deer
> mentions we about to pull out the ar15 to take car of them
from >>35070326

inb4
>T-THATS NOT ME!! REEEE
if its not you why are you arguing?
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>>35070607

> wife makes joke
> ohhhh shit you gonna hunt with ar15 you peasant, me autistic
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my paternal grandmother but she's a witch and I never really had any connections with that cunt to begin with. Her future death will bring me emergency leave hopefully during inventories or when my unit is doing gay shit all week which I will spend in my civilian buddy's house.
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>>35060415
>concealed carrying
>tells everyone he knows that he's carrying

concealed means concealed you fucking retard
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>>35070618
not only are you still a no taste peasant for even owning an ar but it's painfully clear that you hunt deer with it and are just backpedaling and doing damage control now that someone has insulted you
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>>35067387
>one armed person yelling stop could have been enough

I don't think so. He killed like 30 people and most of them had two arms
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>>35070876
>hating on someone because they hunt with an AR
If that's the only gun someone can afford, it's pretty much good for a variety of purposes. So what if it's "classless," this is America, where being a snobby royal shit who only uses a high end hunting rifle or shotgun doesn't count for shit when doing your work.

It's like asking someone that they're classless peasants if they can only drive a Mazda to buy some groceries instead of using a fucking Maserati.

Seriously? /k/ is really shitting on people for using a commonly owned gun?

>>35070876
He killed mostly really young people who he corralled into the school's public restroom. He was a piece of shit who targeted the truly weak and defenseless. Cowards like that would have run at the first sight of a cop.
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I know I'm late but I had to tell this one.
Be me, junior in hs, come from a gun owning family in bf Tennessee
Finally get a gf
Date for about three months before politics/mahguns comes up
"Oh, Anon, btw, I'm totally against guns."
mfw
Ditch that bitch right there, talked to her at graduation
shes going to uni in boston
mfw she said she wanted a degree in womens studies
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>>35070648
What do you expect from an attention whore?
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>>35060415
Why don't you tell her to shut her fucking mouth next time since opinions like hers have ruined our country OP instead of coming here and turning it into your fucking tumblr space?
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>>35070326
Another good one
>AR-15s are the devil
>But ruger mini-14 is cool, that's not scary looking
>point out they both shoot the same caliber and are both semi-auto
>In fact, the only discernible difference between the two is the price tag
>"yeah but the AR-15 is an assault rifle bro you shouldn't be able to own that"
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>>35064239

False Flag
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>>35070876
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>>35067242
This for everyone, desu. You know how much stupid bullshit suddenly disappears from your life when...?
>you can go 2hrs without having to respond to something RIGHT NOW
>your employers can't keep tabs on you and fire you for shit completely unrelated to work (as easily)
>you DON'T get pressured to deal/keep up with people you haven't seen in 10 years (or have never even MET)
>you can much more easily cut toxic, annoying people out of your life with simple physical avoidance and blocking their number
>you don't get engaged in shitfests over random posts
>you suddenly have time to do things you actually enjoy because you're not updating a status or checking a newsfeed every five minutes
I pulled the plug on my Kikebook when I was 16 and never looked back. My life improved instantly.
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>>35068373
>mfw I'm a faggot surrounded by libshit and my open love of guns means little to them
Not even American.
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>>35072210
Litterly forced to get a Facebook. I'm going to leave it blank besides posted photos and an email and phone number once I graduate.
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>>35066729
Guns are fucking awesome and it is only ignorance and lies that keep people from trying them or outright hating them. Throw some logic and reasoning their way and let them shoot and most will become gun owners or at the least not have a negative opinion.
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>>35060420
Please do not encourage the abuse of 4chan's quote feature.
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>>35072367
>forced into FB
Nigga how? You gotta be at least 18 to post and I'm assuming you are. Take control of your life. You're an adult.
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>>35071743
>can't greentext
>underage
>retarded post
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>>35072374
>is only ignorance and lies that keep people from trying them or outright hating them

I agree with this. I think I've extended an invite to the range to every one of my friends over the years. No one has said no, but only a few have taken me up on it.
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>>35069881
>why do you need to carry your gun to dinner?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_shooting

Maybe you should ask the survivors
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>>35064495
which buc/k/le member are you?
reporting in
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>>35072555
The patriarch.
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>>35060415
when your aunt gets raped you can say "i told you so"
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>>35072486
>an actual misogynist, racist and homophobe
>drives an '87 Ford
>owns multiple guns
>mommy issues
>dual-weilds his way through a diner
>every southern conservative stereotype ever shoots up a restaurant like an action movie villain
This HAS to be a fabrication, especially since I'm just now hearing about it even though it's apparently number 4 on the charts.
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>>35073027
I'm about to blow your fucking mind, bro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre
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>>35066983
Complacency and defeatism like this is how you get more gun control laws, do you want me gun controls laws? Engage people and be polite. In certain cases outrage can be the right approach but i would hesitate to show it because they might be exactly what the anti wants, a rise out of you. You first need to fight the perception of gun owners as crazy, angery nutjobs before you start to ease them into common sense. And it sucks, its going to suck alot ib most cases because at best it will be a major chore. But its a chore that needs to get done, so suck it up and do it right the first time.
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>>35073150
Add to this that you have to be willing to compromise.
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>>35067271
Just from the intro of the panel I can tell it'll just be a huge circle jerk.
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>>35067605
His chain of command. They take that shit seriously.
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>>35060415
why are you surprised? have you missed the months long temper tantrum liberals have been throwing
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>>35073133
>The other adult present, Mary Blake, a supervisory assistant, was shot in the head and both legs but also managed to make her way to the store cupboard with several of the children in front of her.[4]
Was Mary a fucking Highlander? This level of detail makes me suspicious, too.
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>>35067460
Microcapacitor development has stagnated. 10nm is the smallest we will ever get, therefore, any computer powerful enough to be sentient will be prohibitively large, expensive, and power hungry. Nobody's gonna invest in an Allied Mastercomputer that might lessen their control.
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>>35072400
I needed it for school shit. Can't get the shudule without it
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>>35073383
Also,
>Bereaved families and their friends also initiated a campaign to ban private gun ownership, named the Snowdrop Petition,
Note the difference in reaction between the bereaved and a Luby's survivor. I suppose it's to be expected. Even a guy like me thinks kids with CC is probably bad, because kids are retarded, but maybe they should have pushed for armed teachers instead.
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>>35073407
They don't just email things to you? Or, you know. Have a paper schedule they hand everyone?
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>>35072397
>it's just for quoting
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>>35066729
I think you underestimate how far being a well adjusted, employed, and level headed man can take you in a discussion. Sometimes you just need to be patient and persistent
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>>35064235
just tell them to fuck off
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>>35073423
If they did do you think I'd have a Facebook?
I used the schools email to make it so my personal stuff is safe. For now
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>>35073423
Not the guy you're responding to but I wouldn't be surprised if the school wanted a Facebook account. Usually they use it as possible leverage because they're basically big brother these days with their students.
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>>35073431
>stop greentexting things that i don't like
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>>35073485
It's got nothing on it except for basic info and three pictures. One I'm holding a trapdoor rifle.
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>>35073383
It's a coverup.
>Evidence of previous police interaction with Hamilton was presented to the Cullen Inquiry but was later sealed under a closure order to prevent publication for 100 years.
>Four files containing post mortems, medical records and profiles on the victims, as well as Hamilton's autopsy, remained sealed under the 100-year order to avoid distressing the relatives and survivors.[24]
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>>35064495
All of them
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>>35067242
This
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>>35067296
But i get the impression his cousin is a right-wing gungrabber... Does such a thing exist?
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>>35067345
FFL bholders have to check by federal law, if you dont have an ffl then its private sale and ok to not check
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>>35067380
>inefficient
No
>Impractical
Yes maybe. But for anyone with even an ounce of determination, also no
LEOs dont use bombs to kill people becauee they are non-discriminatory weapons where as a semiauto is generally not. Thats why guns are a valid selfdefense and LEO tool and bombs are the tool of mass murderers and terrorists
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>>35067444
>knolage
Wew
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>>35073407
I know this shit.

>"Anon why did you come to school this morning ?"
>"I didn't know Pr. Dick was sick"
>"Ah yes, we posted it on FB. Why you don't have FB ?"

Fucked me very deeply twice. Decided i coule have a blank account just in case
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>>35074224
>Why you don't have FB ?"

The answer is always "because I'm not a 13 year old girl."
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>be in orlando the night of pulse shooting
>Hear about about it on radio on drive home
>Talk with gun unfriendly people about it the next day
>"Gun control this, remove all the guns that"
>Carefully and calmly start by agreeing that gun deaths would go down if we removed all firearms in america
>Proceed to remind them that is an impossibility and thay no current or proposed gun legislation would have stopped Pulse. Explain how he was a licensed florida security officer and likely would have been aloud to or atleast been on a shortlist to purchase due to being backround checked at the state and federal level under even some of the strictest gun restrictions
>All of their wot
>Meanwhile what im really thinking about is i cant believe thos shitskin got such a highscore, god damn it
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>>35074233
All normies have FB on my country (France). From the 13 year old girls to the 60 year old man.
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>>35074293
>Meanwhile what im really thinking about is i cant believe thos shitskin got such a highscore, god damn it
That was quite the score.
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>>35074224
>Why you don't have FB ?"

"Because nothing listed it as a requirement for the course, and your reliance on it to communicate officially with students is unprofessional."

Boom. My comm college was doing the same deal, using Facebook to communicate on an official basis with students, either in groups or individually. We of the campus Student Senate ripped their assholes open over it per many student complaints.
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>>35060513
>greentexts are backwards

Only trips could be this retarded.
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>>35060415
It's your right. It's their fault for not putting a no guns allowed sign in front of their house. How else are you supposed to know? Why would carrying a tool even be that much of an issue?
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>>35060430
>Idk what it is with anti-gun people being so loud and angry about funs.
They're not.
Liberals really don't give a fuck.
Just idiotic pro gun (read: rednecks/particularly cuntish urbanites) amplify and exageratte every anti gun word they hear and play it on repeat.
When every one of these red necks and cuntish folk has one story about their tipsy aunt saying silly shit about guns and they all repeat the story over and over and over again to everyone who will listen, it sounds like there's a lot more anti gun stuff than there actually is.


> Nobody had this issue 50 years ago,
Yeah that's because nobody carried handguns 50 years ago if they had 0 reason to.
There's literally a scene a James Bond movie where a Bond girl asks him why he carries and he says "Inferiority Complex".
Because 50 years ago if you concealed carried it was assumed you were either a criminal, an agent of the state, or a total bitch.
Nothing's changed except the number of bitches has gone up.

>I just don't understand why liberals are against all things fun
They're.
Not.
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>>35060415
>Anyone else ever dealt with this kind of irrational shit?
well i don't live in the middle east and i'm adult so yes i have dealt with people who have had a couple glasses of wine
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>>35074797
>Liberals really don't give a fuck.
you're assmad post would beg to differ.
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>>35074797
>I don't care
>let me write an essay and default on calling you all rednecks with small penises to show just how much I don't care
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>>35067208
If this is the shit you advertise, 0 wonder why they talk to you that way.
You got fucking destroyed.
And the reason his shit pops up more frequently is he's popular. Uncool people get suppressed by the facebook feed system.
The site is cancer.
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>>35075069
Rednecks don't have small penises, it just looks that way because they're fat.
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>>35060415
Liberals idiots are liberal idiots. Logic. facts and reality do not compute with them. I just try and avoid them because when they start spouting shit, it makes me want to punch them in the head. That also includes my sister and some of her kids and grand kids.
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>>35075169
That took you 13 minutes to come up with.
Good gracious, I read through this entire thread to end on this garbage post.
End your life senpai
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>>35060415
>Anyone else ever dealt with this kind of irrational shit?
No, I've never dealt with anyone like you before.
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>>35064235
Adding to this:

While you have no obligation (and a slim chance) to change their minds about the
Issue of gun ownership and self-defense, you have a vested interest in not WORSENING their stance by giving them another example of how gun owners are irrational, unstable, or violent.
So seriously, keep your spaghetti in your pockets and a civil tongue in your mouth.
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>>35066441
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>>35070876
kek
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>>35073232
We've already compromised. They still want to take more of our rights. When is it time to stop compromising, seeing as it never satisfies them?
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>>35064495
all of them my fellow ausfag
godspeed
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>>35060415
Property rights > carry rights
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>>35074797
Why are anti-gunners like this cuck almost alway mad? They have no chill. I just love how the right I have pisses other people off so much, it makes shooting ven more fun.
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>>35070572
>you might have the right to bear arms bu

Yes we do.
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>>35070448
you're really not making it less fun for us who own guns by being that mad
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>>35068434
>Never tell anyone you wouldn't show your dick to that you are carrying.
this is criminally underrated and yall should be ashamed
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>>35070665
lol i hunt deer with 556 and never had a problem
idk y ur being such a fgt
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>>35074293
>>Meanwhile what im really thinking about is i cant believe thos shitskin got such a highscore, god damn it
r u me
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>>35075286
He's a Libcuck, he had no life to start with.
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>>35074797
>Liberals really don't give a fuck.
like those new jersey cunts getting caught on a hot mic saying first we register then we ban ban ban
feinstein saying if i could get the votes i would go door to door and take them

>They're.
>Not.
ur right there against reality
>he says "Inferiority Complex".
wowowowowowowow quoting a joke as a reason ur retarted
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>>35067387
I can honestly say that I don't care, even if it actually happened.
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>>35074086
>LEOs dont use bombs to kill people
Who is Micah Johnson for 500 Alex?
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>>35076474
>Micah Johnson
altho he did have a impressive k/d ratio
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>>35076489
I was just pointing out that it is factually inaccurate that LEOs don't use bombs to kill people.
>he did have a impressive k/d ratio
With a Tapco 74 mag, no less.
And it survived a bomb.
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>>35076506
>I was agreeing with you
same team friend same team
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>>35076514
I'm aware.
What part made it seem like I was disagreeing, though?
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>>35076506
im confused now
i think im using greentxt incorrectly lol
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>>35076596
I often use it as a quoting mechanism, which it how it was initially implemented.
>More often now, it's not used as such.

>http://www.4chan.org/faq#quote
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>>35060415
The correct answer was no I'm not carrying.
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>>35067387
Why do they always say such horrible disgusting things?
Why do they think they can get away with it?
Like another anon said, if they really thought gun owners were dangerous, you wouldn't hear a tenth of this shit
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>>35067378
Pussy. Being a rational liberal that likes guns makes people question the “ONLY CRAZY RIGHT WING NUTJOBS HAVE GUNZ” narrative and can get people questioning their beliefs.
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>>35069013
My little pony game will become the first true AI, it will have the order to solve problems through ponies and friendship. This will lead to the AI taking over major systems in the heathcare departnent working on matrix style upload abilities, along with creating smaller banking and broking buisnessess to finance it. After development of a prototype the celestAI as it became called will test on the terminaly ill and very old giving them new life. After more and more people upload there consciousness they are all givin there own world designed as there individual heaven where they will never be bored or die untill the death of the universe its self.

And thats how humanity dies.
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>>35060415
Most anti gun people deal with mental issues so they can't grasp the concept of people being responsible and safe with firearms. That being said, if you were staying at their place it is respectful to make sure they are okay with firearms there.
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>>35060415
>"are you carrying a gun?'
"Yes"
>"Oh, that makes me uncomfortable, I'd like to be informed of that in the future"
"Sorry, I didn't think about that. Next time we see each other I will likely have a gun again. How would you like me to let you know?"

This is how adults interact without spilling spaghetti and citing muh freedom
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>>35066654
My gf was anti gun as well, didn't want one in our apartment at first. Now, she loves that I conceal carry everywhere.

I put my foot down and told her I WILL keep guns in my home.
What really sold it was when I said, if someone breaks in, you expect ME to protect us. Im going to use what ever method I deem best to do that.
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>>35067226
Well reasoned argument
>OMG you are the EXACT reason we can't have guns!!!!!
>Stop disagreeing with me you MANIAC!!!!!
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>>35067378
That sucks, I went hunting with a co-worker last year and my boss asked me during my interview for a better position whether I think ARs are better as pistons or DI guns
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>>35067208
Jesus Christ man. I have friends who say I am "part of the problem" of gun violence in USA simply because I own guns.

My reply was "I disagree, and they're fun to own" rather than your essay ramblings and there was never an argument. I'm originally from Australia where they seized millions of guns after Port Arthur massacre and always talk anti-gun in the news so most people I know from Australia are anti-gun and I have had literally zero arguments about gun ownership and gun rights.

If someone mentions anti-gun opinions just move on and focus more on why you are friends to begin with. If it's family, move on and talk about something else.

If people you hang around literally spaz out when their opinions differ to yours, just stop hanging out with them.
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>>35077505
Wut?

Also kill yourself
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>>35060513
Be careful about suggesting they ban cars, or driving. Once enough cars have autopilot, they'll try. At the city or county level, they will probably succeed, and we don't have a constitutional right to use a vehicle.
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>Parents are portugese
>Love anything related to wood, furniture etc
>Dont like I got a gun license
>I get a PSL kit
>OMG A SNIPER NOOOOO
>Oh ohhh its got wood"
>Wood is good.
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>>35070438
That's complete bullshit. Englishmen are no less ethical or sane than any other group in the anglosphere. Why would they behave any different to Americans on average? Or Australians for that matter. It's a cop out surrender to government authority that breeds this mentality that all humans are just wild violent animals who need the government to protect us from our selves. Nothing could be further from the truth.

>>35070459
That comment is just an outright lie. In Australia last year the ABS had FOUR recorded deaths resulting from firearms accidents. In a nation of 25M that is literally nothing. As for your crime of passion comment, would you mind telling me why crimes of passion seem to be extremely concentrated to particular geographic regions characterised by their high level of drug activity and often firearm regulation?
>51% Of Murders In The U.S. Come From Just 2% Of The Counties
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-01/51-murders-us-come-just-2-counties

The majority of gun crimes are not crimes of passion, they're the results of criminals! The same is true in both our nations. No wonder your poor country is so cucked beyond belief, even it's gun loving citizens have bought in to the myth that they can't be trusted. A sorry state of affairs indeed.
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>>35064559
>cars arent made to kill
Some people in Barcelona might have a different oppinion...
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>you can't carry guns into a bar, anon
Where we live, yes you can, as long as you don't drink any alcohol. Besides, there aren't any "bars", only "restaurants that serve alcohol"
>you've got a permit, anon, and you're in a bar drinking right now
This is seltzer water and lime, pal.
>suddenlygetsit.gif

That's the closest I've gotten to saying that I'm carrying to anyone outside of my SO and family.
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>>35060481
>Someone I don't know very well finds out I like guns
>Asks what kinds of guns I have
>Half of me wants to talk about all of my cool guns and their neato burrito accessories and bring up that new law that let's police confiscate your guns
>The smarter half of me always says some unassuming shit like "oh just an old hunting rifle, and a revolver my grandfather gave me"
Boy are they in for a surprise when they try to rob my house or fuck on me
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>>35062594
4 (you)
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>>35078056
>how many guns do you have?
More than X, but less than Y
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>>35060513
>Do you think you should be able to own a nuclear weapon
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>>35072486
Suzanna Hupp is a fucking legend.

>Had a pistol in her car but left it there because the government could have taken her livelyhood if she got caught with it.
>Watched her parents executed in front of her
>Campaigned for concealed carry in Texas and eventually got elected as a rep

truly an example of triumph in the face of extreme adversity
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>>35060513
>do you think I should be able to own a nuclear weapon'?
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>>35078069
>T97
Nice try Canada.
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>>35060513
>do you think I should be able to own a nuclear weapon
Unironically, once we become a spacefaring civilization and people own entire planets or continents, yes
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>>35078069
One thing worse than gays

Gay furries
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>>35078313
>Zootropolis
???
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>>35069881
>Why do you need to carry a gun to dinner?
The same reason you carry a gun anytime you leave the house. You don't carry a gun anticipating being robbed or attacked the same way you don't buy a fire extinguisher anticipating a fire
>Oh I don't need a fire extinguisher in the house this week! Why would I need a fire extinguisher in my home if I'm about to take a bath!
Tyrone can strike at any time anywhere, and you need to be prepared, not anticipating, but prepared.
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>>35060415

O.P., your pic was very related. Your Aunt is a raging liberal with a severe case of Trump Hysteria. She suspects you and your sister voted for the evil one, and wants to confront you bith in some way about it. These are interesting times we live in and 9/10 people have lost their fucking minds over hyped up hyperbole.

My guess.
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>>35078336
Some euopean countries and middle eastern countries they changed the title because its offencive to mudslimes or some shit
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>>35074293
To be fair those dumb queers thought the crackling of his firearm was part of the song, so he was pretty free to just fire wildly into a croud of dancing queens for a second, and also something about the fire exit didn't work because some shit about gay people wanting to hang out by the fire exit or some shit
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>>35078336
It's even worse than a gay furry. He's a gay Chinese bootleg nigger furry.
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>be open carrying because from state where cc doesnt require a permit
>leaving bathroom
>see fat, fanta purple haired landwhale looking at pistol
ohshitminorities.jpg
>"run" at me shouting for me to stop
>I stop, hoping rto convert yet another nonbeliever of the glory of our god, John Moses Browning
>she stops far too close to me and starts demanding explainations as to why im carrying, who im planning to kill, if I even know how to shoot, and other steryotypical questions
>stay polite and reasonable throughout the conversation until she starts shouting and reacging for the gun
wtfno.
>starts talking about how I have to die foe her safety
>stop playing around and decide to end it
>kankle throw (there was no ankle)
>draw
>tell her if she doesn't hold perfectly still ill blow her head odd
>call cops (drawing a phone in your right front pants pocket is hard off hand)
>she expects to have them arrest and or shoot me on sight
>only in cuffs for a few short seconds while I explain my side
>mfw they let me go and keep my gun, charging her with assault and disturbing the peace
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>>35078387
I'm guessing the dude's Czech, right? Didn't know you could have rifles over there.
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>>35078439
>keep your gun
Did you at least get it back or something?
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>>35066673
>he thinks there's no black market for lightning links and converted aks
get good kid
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>>35078439
Put your trip back on, hunter.
>>
The point of concealed carry is that nobody knows you're carrying, ergo the "concealed". Stop telling your friends and family about your power level and you won't get treated like a psychopath.
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>>35067380
>a gun that can't kill is worthless
>POLICE NEED MORE NON-LETHAL WEAPONS

pick one retard
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>>35067425
>>35067386
They're not going to be sentient, but allowing a computer to reprogram itself (including rewriting its own operating system), giving it some cloud computing software, and connecting it to the Internet could kill off the economy, or worse, it could pretend to be people for long enough to set off global thermonuclear war. Computers, with enough direction, can do this NOW, and they still wouldn't actually know what they were doing.

They'll probably ruin everything several times before they become able to manage a society.
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>>35068871
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>>35078488
yep. same day no hassle
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>>35070383
>humane
Vegan?
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>>35071743
underage b&
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>>35074797
Try going to Uni in PDX you faggot..
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>>35074797
>They're not.
Yes they are. See? I can do it too.

>It's all confirmation bias
Trying to repeat that nothing is wrong has the same effect. There's a give and a take to each side but there is a loud, active anti-gun side.
>Nobody carried guns 50 years ago if they had 0 reason to
Poisoning the well.
A. We're implying that people have 0 reason to today (and then). That is false
B. The rate of concealed carry and firearm ownership over time has fallen IIRC;
(couldn't find data for now, got work to do).
B. "total bitch" = Ad hominem

>They're.
>Not.
Yes they are. Pretty good post. No evidence whatsoever, just a lot of hearsay.
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>>35064163
Fuck off, Hunter 311 Fagtual
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>>35078069
Is that a FAMAS
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>>35066813
>antigunner
>sense
Pick one
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>>35066859
Ban assault trucks.
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>>35066729
My gf isnt anti-gun but she doesnt want to go shooting with me because shes afraid. She worries about the kick, noise, and maybe a bullet ricocheting.
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>>35078523
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>>35078749
What she should be worried about is the fucking retards on the range NDing
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>>35067260
I thought those were ears
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>>35067380

>A car that can be made to transport someone without killing is by definition a better car, as its purpose is in the transportation of someone from location A to B. Companies have been improving the safety of them for decades. With AI you will have even less deaths. A gun on the other hand that can't kill is literally useless.
A car, or tool, is meant for whatever you got it for and can be as practical as anything else. I use a 4 foot long pipe wrench as a wrench and a hammer. Even though it wasnt designed for the latter it works well and means I have to carry less. If I wanted to buy this wrench to kill people with would you argue I'd would noy be at a major advantage over the unarmed?

As someone who fixes and programs AI and the sensors that let it function, it would be a scary thought giving it full control of my vehicle.

A gun that won't kill is actually pretty useful for practice and fun. Look at the market for airsoft. A car that couldn't kill can't exist even if you limited them to 10 mph with AI, accidents will happen.

>Making a bomb is an inefficient and impractical way to kill for your average person. If it was then law enforcement agencies would all be carrying bombs instead of small arms. Guns as an issue is about the efficiency of killing provided by the legalization of firearms. This is really just moving the goalposts like the whole "people kill people not guns" nonsense from the 90s.

It's very efficient for indiscriminate killing from a distance and getting away with it. Law enforcement won't use bombs because you can't discriminate effectively on single targets. Militaries use bombs because of their effectiveness on groups they know are hostile.

"People kill people not guns" is very true. Give an individual a tool or the basic knowledge to make what they want and it's been proven over and over that a person with the intent to kill will find a way and be able to do as much damage as they want to.

>inb4 a gun makes it easier
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>>35073393
It doesn't need to be invented. Just construct it out of every computer on the face of the earth. It won't necessarily agree with itself all the time or even know what its doing but a big enough botnet could cause a massive upset by manipulating everything people can see beyond a mile from their house to say the exact same thing. When every screen says the stock market is crashing, then god damn it, it is crashing.
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>>35067380
>>35078781

Also I realize you're doing anti's mental gymnastics to help train /k/. Thank you anon, keep going, I feel like I've ran out of their arguments to keep getting good. If you see issues with mine let me know m8.
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>>35078787
why though? who would do something that stupid? it doesn't benefit anyone.
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>>35078815
There are ways to make money by betting against the increase in value of a particular stock, although I forgot how exactly it works, but that's just an example. Whoever controls a global botnet controls everything. If all the news outlets all suddenly started saying that prohibition on hate speech or driving had been signed into law, or that a curfew had been imposed, then people would have no choice but to believe it. And that could be done. The image you see of a news anchor is just pixels on a screen, and computers ultimately control the pixels.
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>>35068871

>1

Yes you can

>2

It would have worked if not for international intervention if you count the British mainland as intervention.

The major flaw with your argument is that a modern civil war would ideally be exclusively from within and there'd be no reinforcements from the British mainland. Imagine if all the supplies and man power the British government in the colonies had to come from the colonies themselves and knowing that a sizeable part of the army would defect and every territory lost means even less supplies and man power
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>>35067380
>impractical, leo's wouldn't do it!
Uh
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>>35078069
>MAGA hat
>Canadian
>Faggot
>Canadian
K den.
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>>35072374
This. So much this. As soon as you crack the door open, a while new world opens up.

Guns are like a rollercoaster. You are nervous right up until you see how much fun it is.
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>>35067380
An AI is gonna have just as much of a hard time not hitting the Mexicans that walk out into traffic on North Lamar as Anyone else
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>>35067500
And those fuckers keep coming into my yard! A whole hemisphere isn't enough for them!?
Fucking fire ants!
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>>35079171
Just tannerite them boi
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>>35068871
Tanks and planes aren't impervious to small arms fire.
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>>35078523
who?
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>>35078781
a gun makes it easier.

You people are so fucking backwards. You think having a gun makes you special, so you try and make it as easy as possible to get one.
If any idiot with $100 can buy a gun that makes the firearm community less special and exclusive than Costco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taIhoUn5hOs
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>>35066673
>>35066705
>>35066729
You are a majestic bastard. Your patience honors us all.

Keep doing God's work, anon!
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>>35067425
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>>35081259
>31 hours later and he's still mad
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