What went wrong?

Nothing.

>>35056045
.45 GAP made it obsolete

.40 came along and it took 20 years for everyone to realize it's shit. Reminder that .40 is LITERALLY 10mm special, and it rips handguns apart at a retarded rate because no handgun has even been designed to shoot it.

Also, if you own a .40 handgun, SELL. IT. NOW. Several of the largest ammunition manufacturers just stopped producing it.

>>35056045
>Required too heavy of a gun to shoot reliably
>Actually does recoil too much (despite what manly men on /k/ who've never shot it claim)
>Very few manufacturers picked it up because there's an improved version that has nearly the same power (.40)
>Now it's an expensive unicorn round that like 4 guns in existence shoot

>>35056092
>realize it's shit. Reminder that .40 is >LITERALLY 10mm special, and it rips handguns apart at a retarded rate because no handgun has even been designed to shoot it.

The USP was designed around .40.

>>35056092
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on those last 2 points.
>No gun has even been designed to shoot it
What are the CZ-40B and the USP for 200, Alex?
>Several of the largest ammunition manufacturers just stopped producing it
Which ones, and give me the press releases that say "We are not doing .40"

Manlets and women can't handle 10mm

it's supreme

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>>35056131
>spoonfeed me everything

>>35056155
You're the faggot talking bullshit, nut up and give me sources so it can be not-bullshit.

>>35056081
This. Also .45 ACP.
>>35056128
USPs are the best fucking pistols ever made.

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>>35056160
No, I'm not.

>>35056131
>What are the CZ-40B and the USP for 200, Alex?
Handungs that were designed to shoot 9mm, and 45ACP respectively

>Who stopped producing it?
Most of them. Of course they still do limited runs, but most of their tooling and machinery, and business is for law enforcement and military. Ever wonder why .40 is so expensive?

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>>35056176
Lmao what?
The CZ and HK were designed with the .40 in mind. They just made a 9mm version and upscaled them for .45 for diversity and more sales. Hop on the internet and use both those brain cells for a minute.

>>35056169
>>35056176
In the time it took you to get those 3 comments posted, you could have given me the articles from the companies that stopped producing... the fuck am I kidding? You're an idiot talking bullshit constantly, never backing it up and mocking anyone that questions your verbal feces. Let me put this into words I'm sure you'll understand.
Give. Sources. Or. GTFO.

>>35056188
No. They were not. I'm not going to take the time to type paragraphs on what a moron you are. Wikipedia already has. I suggest you take your own advice.

>>35056209
I only responded to you once you non VPN using shithat. Learn to use 4chins

>>35056213
You are the dumbest nigger ever to nigger
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_USP
>The USP was originally built around the .40 S&W cartridge

>>35056222
Regardless, post articles. I'm not finding shit from Remington, Federal, Winchester and others at all aside from them advertising that they do indeed still make .40.

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>>35056213
>>35056209
>>35056188
>>35056176
>>35056160
>>35056155
>>35056131
>>35056128
Relevant.

https://youtu.be/uwSZE1-Psbc

>>35056229
>Originally
Yeah, and the AR15 was originally designed around 7.62x51, and before that some intermediate kraut cartridge. It's not meant to shoot it now is it?

>>35056234
Jesus dude. They stopped producing it for law enforcement and military which is the best majority of their sales. It's common fucking knowledge no one uses it anymore. Again, do you not understand why .40 is now an expensive boutique caliher?

>>35056257
Backpedal harder bby it's making me hard

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>>35056045

As an old fuck I can remember the hype around the introduction of the 10mm.

What put a huge dent in the 10mm reputation was that there were lurid stories of the Bren 10 pistols being prematurely beaten to death by the high pressure cartridge. Another thing was that for a long time there was only the Bren 10 (made famous by Miami Vice) and the Colt Delta Elite. The Colt was constantly dogged by breathless and hysterical "Is the 1911 strong enough?" argument in the gun magazines to sell copy in the pre-interweb days.

>>35056267
You really are retarded. It was ORIGINALLY designed to be .40. It was not RELEASED as a 40 caliber gun. Ypu are aware that changes happen from the graph paper engineers use and the released product right?

Again, I will repeat this. There is not a handgun(there are SMGs and rifles) that has EVER been released that was intended to fire .40 reliably and for a long time.

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10mm best mm

>>35056295
lmao the USP was released as .40, they also released a 9 version at the same time. They didn't release the .45 until almost 3 years later
t. someone who knows how to read

>>35056296
The neat thing about 10mm wheelguns is that they can also fire .40 if you feel like being cheap.

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>>35056099
>4 guns in existence shoot
Here's a short list.

American Derringer 10mm
AMT (Automag IV, Javelina)
Armalon PC
Auto Ordnance 1911 & 1927-A1 Tommy Gun 10mm
Bond Arms 10mm
Bren Ten (Standard, Military & Police, Dual Master, Special Forces Dark & Light, Jeff Cooper, Pocket Model)
Colt Delta (Elite, Gold Cup)
CZ/Dan Wesson Razorback
D MAX Industries 10mm
Dan Wesson (Bruin, Silverback)
EAA (see Tangfolio)
Fusion Arms 1911 style 10mm
Glock (G20, G29, G40)
Grand Power P40
Heckler & Koch (H&K) MP5/10 A3
KIMBER Eclipse Custom II
Korriphila II / Minigun PP-10 (by Edgar Budischowsky)
Korth 10mm
KRISS Vector 10mm
LAR Grizzly
Mechtech Conversion 10mm
Nighthawk
Olympic Arm AR 10mm
PARA Elite LS Hunter
Para Ordnance P16-10
Republic Forge
RMW AR 10mm
Rock Island Armory (Pro Match Ultra, Rock Ultra, TAC Ultra)
Ruger 10mm/38-40 (Roy Rogers Museum)
Ruger Buckeye 10mm
Ruger GP100 10mm
SIG Sauer P220 10mm Auto
Smith & Wesson (Mod. 1006, Mod. 1026, Mod. 1046, Mod. 1066, Mod. 1076, Mod. 1086, Mod. 610)
Sphinx 10mm
Springfield Armory (Omega-Match, Linkless)
Star Megastar
STI Perfect 10mm
Tanfoglio (Stock I/II/III, Match, Hunter, Limited, Limited Pro, Polymer, Xtreme), Imported by EAA
The Laser Aim 10mm
Thompson Center Arms Contender
Thureon Defense 10mm
Tony Rumore's M1 Carbine 10mm
Wilson Combat
Wyoming Arms Parker Model (3 types)

>>35056045
>Bren Ten was shit
>FBI adopted forty-shorty

>>35056439
and aside from glocks how many can you actually find in stores

>>35056521
>he doesn't have a gunstore that does special orders on demand

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>>35056166
>USPs are the best fucking pistols ever made.
not really? I mean, at the time, I can see it, but ion today's market where aftermarket galore and gunsmithing service over the internet both through sending it into a service AND watching videos and servicing yourself, I really don't think USP's live up too well. They are beautiful as fuck, but their overall trigger, muzzle flippiness, and discontinued attachment rail has been surpassed by modern handguns.

>>35056521
That wasn't the statement that was made.
>4 guns in existence shoot
>in existence

But since you asked
Tanfoglios are rather easy to come by.
As are Sigs and Colt Deltas
Wilson Combats are on the high end, as are the Dan Wessons but both are fairly available.
The Kriss Vector in 10mm is readily available as well.

>>35056155

>asking someone to provide the evidence that supports their claims is asking to be spoonfed.

Kill yourself immediately.

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>>35056045
They ran out of 80's, cocaine and Miami Vice.

>>35056439
And I woke up today thinking I didnt need another grand power.

>>35056092
Still waiting on them sources. You're already wrong on the handgun part. S&W literally designed their pistol around after after they cried 10mm was too manly.

>>35056045
10mm auto is an excellent SMG round, but a little too hot for handguns.

>>35056547
The problem here is that you're trying to equate a USP which is near perfection to guns that need modification to run at the same level and even then you're running into a huge hornets nest of reliability issues. Their trigger is fine, most of you faggots crying about them have never even shot one, and with a full match trigger it's amazing and easily one of the best triggers that isn't custom fitted. Muzzle flip is almost totally nonexistent in this gun due to the recoil system or you have incredibly bitch hands because it's one of the flattest shooting 40s and 45s you can find. Also you can find big companies making attachments for them still because HKfags enjoy their guns as they are and require very little modification sans a light or night sights.
Tldr you've never touched a USP

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>>35057327
I ordered my match trigger and I'm so excite

>>35056176

.40 costs the same as .45 jackass

>>35056237

>Says .40 has a dangerous pressure
>Praises 10mm

James Yeager is a confirmed moron

>>35057360
It makes a massive difference

>>35056176
>Ever wonder why .40 is so expensive?
No? How fucking poor are you? The difference between .40 and 9mm is $50@1000rds, and thats being generous with the differential.

>>35056128
This is what happens when people regurgitate things they don't fully comprehend.

40 kills guns because some manufacturers decided to scale up their existing 9mm designs to 40 by increasing recoil spring weight and simply rechambering.

The USP was designed in the early 90's for 40S&W pressures and tolerances specifically and was released in 1993, the USP 45 was released in 1995.

The USP9 actually has lightening cuts inside of the slide because they had to scale the weight down for 9mm.

>>35056209
To be fair you could have googled it yourself in that time. Lazy child

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>>35056547

>>35056257
>Yeah, and the AR15 was originally designed around 7.62x51, and before that some intermediate kraut cartridge.
Lmao no. AR-10=/= AR15 nor was it ever designed for the 8mm Kurz (That was a FAL prototype, along with early rifles of the G3/CETME family). You could say it was based on the AR10 with the design being downscaled to be qualifiable with the assault rifle competitions, but no way was it originally designed for the 7.62 NATO cartridge.

>>35056513
Ian senpai says you're opinion on the Bren Ten is full of shit on

>>35057472
>only made 1500
>sold with magazines that don't fucking work
>button safety on slide that can disable the gun without you knowing untill you try to use it
gee wiz why wasn't it a wild sucess

>>35056296
>10mm revolver

Im not sure what to do with this gun boner

>>35057392
I heard it's a bitch to install. Do i need to order a punch set?

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>>35057564
it's pretty slick

sadly I don't use it that much

>>35056045
1911 fudds who can't stop sucking jeff coopers cock is what went wrong. any projectile fired from a pistol is underpowered. I don't care if you dug up john brownings zombie corpse, cremated the remains and mixed his ashes with gunpowder shits still going to be underpowered as fuck compared to a rifle

m-muh stopahn powuh

>>35056155
wow. gas yourself.

>>35057686
>any projectile from a pistol is underpowered

Nope.

>>35056439
You forgot the Colt Double Eagle. I have one of those and a 4th gen G29 is my CCW

>>35056045
quite literally, women.

that is the exact reason the FBI dropped it. they said that the majority of women agents had a hard time dealing with the recoil let alone the weight of the gun(S&W 1076).

the round is EXTREMELY powerful for what it is. it literally has to have the gun built for it from the ground up. most .45acp pistols can't withstand the recoil over prolonged use. the recoil spring has to be WAY heavier than a .45acp. adn teh chamber has to be built thick as fuck.

It is a great round. I absolutely love my 10mm to death. I will never sell it. I would love to carry it for edc, but there are few options for that in a decent price range. and G20's are pretty fucking big for CC. believe me. I've tried. and I currently CC a USP(about the biggest I'll go).

>>35058096
G29 is doable if you don't plan on firing it single handed very often. I put a mag of my carry ammo (hornady XTP 180gr) through it every time I shoot just to remind myself of the recoil Well, and to rotate fresh ammo into my gun.

>>35058149
I've been a little leary on doing a compact 10mm. I've shot my witness and 1911 10mm single handed and those aren't TOO bad and quite doable, but, I think that's because of the longer recoil spring.

IDK, maybe that's something I'll have to look into.

>>35058208
See if you can find a range that rents em. I'm lucky and just live a bit over an hour from Buds and they have basically anything for rent

>>35056092
>10mm and 9mm become common
>people want similar power of a 10mm but in a 9mm size gun
40 will never die

>>35056092
Jesus fuck this is damn near the exact script for James Yaegers video holy fuck lmoa

>>35058245
40 isn't close to real 10mm in terms of power.

>>35058263
soft 10mm

>>35056045
Powerful rounds arn't exactly conducive to semi-auto handguns. Something like a hot loaded 10mm is hard to control for most folks. If you need the extra power out of a handgun its a lot more prsctical to just use a .357 mag revolver.

>>35058245
>not 357 sig for 9mm to 45
I love 10mm, but for similar power of 10/45 but in 9mm sized gun, 357 sig. The 10mm is for exploding bodies.

>>35058245

>Want power
>Get .40
>Don't get any power
>loose mag capacity
>everyone dropping it
>i-it'll n-never die ;_;

>>35058305
it's more powerful than 9

>>35058295
I love 357

>>35056099
I love bait threads as much as the next guy but "nearly the same" is usually off by 200fps across the board and too much recoil is subjective and skill based. The whole world dick rides the G19 but people act like the G20 and G29 are sketchy

>>35056176
The 40B was made for .40 and the USP started out as a 10mm

women in the FBI

>>35056092
>no handgun has even been designed to shoot it.
what is the S&W 4006?

>>35056439
>10MM M1 Carbine
For what purpose?

>>35058232
unfortunately, there's only 2 ranges that rent guns around me, and neither has anything to rent in 10mm.

so, I'm kinda stuck at just buying it and taking the risk.

oh, interesting note....10mm will kinda sorta fit into a CZ26 magazine.

>>35058716
Ah, sorry to hear that man.

>>35058747
I know, but I kinda made my bed with that. I moved from a large pro-gun metropolitan area to a super liberal small college town because of work.

I have a delta elite. Its super fuckin sexy and 10mm is fun as fuck to shoot. Its not even like its hard to control people just suck at dealing with recoil.

>>35056439
I have the Olympic. Bomb piece. Do not install the Tac-Con trigger in anything you're going to run an Olympic on. No lockup means bad timing and cases blowing the heads off.

>>35057386
nigger you're retarded
40 is weak 10mm cut down. Same amount of powder and all but more tightly packed

>>35058533
u serious nigga

>>35058329
>more powerful than 9
That's a funny way to say
>it kicks more with no noticeable benefit on the target over 9

>>35058889
Think about it for a second.
Does that make sense?
Did you stop and think,
>Would this explain why the FBI switched from 10 to .40?

>>35059100
>original loading was too much
>take some of the powder out
>people decide it's a good idea to cut it down so it'll fit in 9mm size handguns

>>35059121
The comment I was replying to said 10 and .40 use the same powder charge.

>>35059172
Yeah. Cucked 10mm that the FBI had it loaded to before they dropped it

>>35059182
Fair enough.

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>>35056045

>>35056045

Nothing. It's a good round. Can shoot .40 out of it too in a pinch.

>>35056099

I own a Glock 20, which I'd argue is the lightest 10mm on the market. It has very low recoil, at least to me.

I'm also a 270 pound 6'2 white male who doesn't have girly faggot hands.

>>35059219
I want one but I'm a pussy and I'm scared of it exploding due to unsupported chamber and weak etc etc. Anyways I hear a lot of shit about them kabooming. Is it good?

>>35059233

99% of such incidents for any guns are double loads, shitty hand loads, etc. My G20 is in my carry rotation and I don't fear using it at all. I don't even wear eye protection when shooting it.

IIRC there were some very early Gen2's in .40 that had an issue Glock fixed (and that's where muh grenade meme comes from) but I have a first-year protection Gen2 Glock 20 and have fired it hundreds of times without issue. Even shooting something like Underwood out of it.

Personally if you're wanting a 10mm just to have a 10mm, I'd get a nice Delta Elite or AMT Javelina, but that's me. Glock is a nice regular man's choice though.

>>35059351
Thanks babe. I'll check em out

>>35059219
>6'2
>270

Holy shit your just really really fat. Get off the computer and go for a jog

>>35059219
>270 pound 6'2
Jesus Christ what a fatty. Put down the Twinkies ya ding dong.

>>35059422
>>35059510

1. I used to play college football (NAIA level - DT)
2. At one point I was 334.
3. I'm still fat, but I ain't fat fat.
4. Twinkies are fucking disgusting and I don't know how that reputation developed. You really want to know what gets my fat erect? Chicken McNuggets and McD's fries dipped in a Vanilla Frosty. That's right, you gotta get the frosty from Wendy's then drive across the street to Mickey D's to get the rest. Or else it ain't right.

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>>35056546
>He buys pistols without holding them

I've never had an issue yet but i can easily see how someone could

>>35059785
>McNuggets in a Vanilla Frosty
A man of the absolute maddest variety. I'll have to try it.

>>35057686
Jeff Cooper helped design the 10mm you fucking idiot

>>35058096
Go read the report and the history of the FBIs adoption process. The 10mm never made it to the point of "muh women, muh Asians" they moved on BEFORE that

>>35058305
>everyone dropping it
People have been saying that since the day of FBI swap and using the FBI as "everyone"

>>35058713
Because it's possible.

>>35058923
Very. I'll start digging for the PDF

>>35060896
not everyone is dropping it. there is still A LOT of LEO that still use it or .357 Sig. and then there are quite a few LEO that use .45ACP and 10mm. it's not even a fraction of them that switched from .40 to 9mm.

>>35060975
Please do. USP in 10mm

>>35059233
That type of shit happens to people that are pushing the cartridge as hot and heavy. People seem to think 10mm is some magic autocartrdige immune to physics because the case is adamantium but that's not how reality works. People seem to think that the "real" 10'll loads are the modern day hot as fuck buffalo bore or Underwood stuff despite the round being designed for a 180-200gr8 bullet between 1100 and 1300fps which is as stout as you could ever need and still warmer than Cooper intended

>>35056045
The Bren Ten was meant to showcase it, but D&D failed miserably by screwing the pooch with the mags. Eventually D&D went under and so did the premier platform for the 10mm.

>>35061022
Oh I know, that's just what the idiots have been repeating. .40 isn't amazing, but it has its place and the FBI dropping it didn't make millions of pistols suddenly vanish.

>>35061056
It'll take some digging but it's straight from of the guys that was in deep with HK. Not a guy that knows a guy, but a guy that worked for HK for 20 years and eventually wrote a book. All kinds of nice grey room prototypes etc

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>>35056128
>>35056131
>>35057313
>>35058245
>>35058262
>>35058699

Thanks for all the (You)s, fellas, but honestly I was expecting more of them.

>>35061087
Of course. People are dumb as shit and when you see the gun in pieces and the dude's hand fucked your first thought it wow shit gun

>>35061133
I need this now. 10mm USP Elite is my fetish

>>35061174
[PDF]The HK Decades By Jim Schatz - HKPro
static.hkpro.com › straightgrain › docs

But yeah, 10mm conversions are easy enough on USP40s, and at least on guy did it with a 45 to use the mags

>>35061207
That, 357 and whatever new meme rounds are made is one of the only reasons I'm getting a USP in 40

>>35056099
I have bitch wrists. 1911s hurt to shoot for me. I own a glock 20. Anyone who says 10mm has too much kick is either a female or a trans ftm

>>35056155
Hahaha.
Guys my uncle works for Nintendo and he says mashing the a button helps you capture Pokemon
>cool, do you have anything from him saying that, or that he works for Nintendo?
FUCK YOU, FIND PROOF OF MY UNCLE ON YOUR OWN I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE FACTS TO BACK UP MY STATEMENTS

>>35061133
agreed. .40 does have it's place. honestly though, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some of those .357sig trade-ins.

>>35061356
Depends why you want it really. I just like oddball stuff since a person came get a solid carbine and ccw for under 1500 these days, so everything else can be for fun or novelty. While a .40 can't match the sectional density of the .357, it can actually match the velocity for equal weight bullets. I would like a P226 and a Sig Fastback in .357Sig because reasons.

>>35061476
honestly, i just want to get it just because I can.

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>>35056131
>CZ-40B
Softest shooting fotay I've ever fired

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thoughts?

>>35059785
You have a BMI of 34. You are nearly to class 2 obese which is "fat fat" as you call it. Your body will thank you if you scale back on the frostys and fries. You don't even need to workout.

>>35062683
>BMI
How does it feel to be retarded?

>>35061502
That's all the reasoning you need. People spend to much time trying to min/max gun purchases irl

>>35062683
I had a Section Sgt when I was in that was about 5'3"ish and 170lbs. the Army said he was overweight. Dude didn't have an ounce of fat on him. he was fucking RIPPED! he could run over 5miles easy, do well over 20 pull ups, always maxed the PT test.

then on the other hand, I've seen people that were 5'5" and weigh over 200lbs that were truely fat fuckers that could barely pass ANY PT adn yet they were somehow within regs.

So, that whole BMI thing is real bullshit.

>>35062683
>BMI
When you get out of middle school you'll realize that it's a crock of shit.

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>>35062683
>BMI

>>35062916
>>35063055
>>35063069
>>35063076
No shit it isn't a perfect measure but the people how are actually muscular enough to be classified as obese or morbidly obese are few and far between. I guarantee this guy isn't one of them. Fucking Schwarzenegger competed at 245-250 lbs at 6'2". Are you seriously saying that this guy has 20lbs more muscle than Arnold at his prime?

>>35064040
*who. Fucking phone

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>>35057686
Semiauto handguns are underpowered. Revolvers don't have to be.

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>>35061137

>>35057327
>other guns aren't as good as a USP because they need to be modified
>if you just modify the USP and get a match grade trigger

I actually own both a G19 and a USP in 9mm. They have a similar recoil spring, but the G19 is smaller in every dimension yet holds the same amount of rounds, because HK magazine design is inefficient as fuck. The USP's trigger reset is laughably weak. Secondly you can easily modify a glock with factory springs that are lighter while also doing a piss easy 25 cent trigger job. Try replacing your trigger reset spring alone in your USP. Also try attaching an RMR or light to your gun without modifying anything or any additional adapters. MOS model glocks need no modification and standard glocks can actually be cut for them. Do I have to mention bore axis as well?

Can anyone tell me how well the Tanfoglios are? Any owners here? I've heard that they are really great guns for the money but I always like to get more opinions.

>>35064750
I own quite a few guns, including gen1 and gen4 G17s, and a USP40, 9, and .45, the USP is a better gun.

InRange just did a G19 MOS video where from a ransom rest they got a little over 2" groups at 15yds, my USP40 is a 1" gun at 25yds.

>>35065029
I have a .38 super steel frame and it is fantastic, my buddy has the poorfag polymer frame and it has better ergos and is more mechanically accurate than a G17, and my local match director has a Stock II and Stock III and he is a master classification shooter that praises them.

>>35063076

BERENSTEIN BEARS. I REMEMBER BERENSTEIN BEARS,NOT FUCKING BERENSTAIN BEARS, GOD DAMN FUCKING MANDELA EFFECT BULLSHIT.

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>>35064750
>I actually own both a G19 and a USP in 9mm.
Congratulations, they are both fine guns.

>They have a similar recoil spring
Simmilar isn't the same, but okay

>But the G19 is smaller in every dimension yet holds the same amount of rounds
Yeah, it's a compact.

>Because HK magazine design is inefficient as fuck.
No, HK prioritized "as close to zero malfunctions in the life if the firearm as fucking possible" over "couple more rounds m8"
And they succeeded, the USP is a bomb proof gun while the Glock is 'very reliable, but you really nerd to know how to clear a malfunction'

The USP's trigger reset is laughably weak.
Not really, you should try a MkIII Browning High Power.

>Secondly you can easily modify a glock with factory springs that are lighter while also doing a piss easy 25 cent trigger job.
Fucking with a Glock is the #1 way to start getting malfunctions

>Try replacing your trigger reset spring alone in your USP.
I did, three times. My .45 has a heavy, my .40 and 9mm have match springs. Have you tried not being a bitch?

>Also try attaching an RMR or light to your gun without modifying anything or any additional adapters.
Okay, here is a light. Interesting that the same year if Glock doesn't even have a rail to try this with......

>MOS model glocks need no modification and standard glocks can actually be cut for them.
They are also ludicrously overpriced, and mostly used for competition. The pistol optic has advantages, but in the hands of a practiced shooter an iron sighted pistol is just as lethal.

>Do I have to mention bore axis as well?
Only if you want to look retarded

>>35065365
>>35064750
BTFO

>>35056045
Niggers

>>35065275
>38 super, steel frame

Where did you find your Star, bro? Is it awesome?

>>35065029
I have a Limited in 10mm. shoots great. fucking laser. the sear is starting to wear though. whne it goes out it basically turns it into a DAO. you do need to upgrade the recoil spring though. i'm running a 22# wolf spring.

>>35056439
>Tony Rumore's M1 Carbine 10mm
Fuck my ass that sounds fun.

>>35056092
>it rips handguns apart at a retarded rate because no handgun has even been designed to shoot it.

You need to stop posting and fucking read some shit. Jesus christ it's too early in the morning for me to read this much stupid at once.

>>35056081
And .45 GAP made itself obsolete.

>>35056155
actuallt fuck off m8

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>>35064040
>he thinks Arnold was actually 6'2"

>>35064167
Wait...

Is that a young Chris Bartocci?

>>35056092
>Reminder that .40 is LITERALLY 10mm special, and it rips handguns apart at a retarded rate because no handgun has even been designed to shoot it.

Holy fuck you people are the DI haters of our time.

>>35056547
>overall trigger, muzzle flippiness, and discontinued attachment rail has been surpassed by modern handguns.

Lol, what a fucking pussy, they don't have more muzzle flip than other guns unless you have bitchwrists. The trigger is also fine unless you need super light triggers because of your fundamentals.

>>35057372
No it doesn't its cheaper by about 50 dollars per 1k rounds.

>>35058295
.40 is stronger than .45

>>35065365
Is that an Inforce APLc on the USP45?

>>35056045
The FBI decided letting women and faggots join was a good idea.

>>35067060
The Tromix carbine was a 10mm magnun, and he only made one

>>35067018
The Tanfoglios are steel frames mang

>>35056547
>muzzle flip
>USP
Holy shit son

>>35056322
But all autoloading10mill pistols can do the same

>>35056099
Too much recoil?
Fucking hilarious. I had to sell my 9mm and 45acp handguns a year ago because of unfortunate shit. I decided to get a 10mm this time because I live in bear and big ass moose land. Bought a glock 20 1 month ago and its like I never stopped shooting. Im boringly good with this gun. The recoil doesn't even register.

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>>35067829
Yes

>>35065365
I love you

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>>35071032
Oh... uh, thanks