Are deagles good guns?

No.

>>35054801
fuck no

They're aesthetic

They were made for silhouette shooting. They are pretty good at that, so yes. There's a small number of people who go hunting with big bore handguns. I don't know how popular they are for that purpose.

They're the most intimidating paperweight I've ever saw.

>>35054801
Perfect CC pistol.

About as noguns hasguns you can be

>>35054801
They're shit but oddly I want to get one eventually just to have it. It's the same reason I buy old Iver Johnson revolvers, they were the high points of their day. They were called suicide specials because a lot of people would buy them through the mail and would kill themselves with them.

>>35054964
>paperweight
Are you implying it wouldn't shred someone if you shot them with it?

>>35055149
You better hit em on the first shot or grip it like Thor's fucking hammer.

>>35055165
nodeaglez detected, they recoil really softly because of the gas system and how big they are. Shooting one chambered for .357 is like shooting a hot 9mm.

>>35055225
Not him but what about shooting the 44 or the 50ae wouldn't that have some umph to it?

>>35055225
>shooting one in 357
>buying a deagle for anything but .50 african eliminator
I think you're what those australians call a "poofta"

>>35055246
Been a while since I shot mine(.44), but I don't remember the recoil being bad at all. It's got some leaflets in the case, one of which instructs you on proper grip for shooting big bore pistols, but it also mentions that the technique it describes is really only necessary for the .50AE chambering.

>>35055247
I have a MK XIX, so I can switch out the barrel and bolt face if I feel like it, mine's a .44, because when I saw it at the store, that's what they had.

>>35055269
Interesting, I wonder if limp wristing it might be why people act like it's completely unreliable. I've never shot one. I sorta wanna buy one for novelty.

>>35055288
Limpwristing any autoloader will do that. The gas system also likes hot loaded .357 and .44, or so I've been told. The feeding ramps also do not like semi jacketed stuff.

>>35055365
Indeed but it seems like it might be easier to limp wrist a larger gun like that to create a problem. I still want one, just for novelty mostly. It's such a massive thing.

>>35055412
Don't bother trying to dampen the recoil. But that was some fancy shooting.

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>>35054801
They can be, depending on your purposes and depending on if you're willing to get used to them and learn them.

They are probably the most accurate automatic pistol in production, bar none, it really can't be understated how precise the things are.

>>35055246
Shooting the .44 is a bit like a 1911
The .50 is a bit more brisk, and the .440 especially so (but you never see that one these days).

>>35055247
>not getting conversion kits in every caliber
Poorfag.

Also the .357 Magnum deagle is an experience on it's own, 9+1, soft recoil and high firepower.

The .440 CorBon shits all over the .50AE by the way.

>>35056106
Kinda interested how they needed to put an instruction guide in there for old guys that never shot a handgun other than a revolver.

>>35055288
The Deagle doesn't tolerate even the slightest bit of limpwristing, and many people wouldn't want to admit it to themselves that they're limpwristing.

The other is teacupping, which messes with the magazine.

Finally it's ammo, people try to feed it cheap-ass and dirty target loads like MagTech and other filthy and low powered garbage.
You really want a hot and heavy ball round with clean burning powder, if you want to shoot for lower costs then handload, .357 and .44 projectiles and brass is common and cheap.

>>35056146
Most high-powered Magnums are revolvers, and letting a high powered revolver roll in your hand isn't bad practice, really. It's just that it's bad practice for a Deagle, which also is a very unconventional automatic, you just can't treat it like a Glock or 1911

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>>35054801
Yes

>>35056146
sure kid

>>35054801
>For military purposes?
No, don't be silly.
>For sporting use?
Yes, that's what it was designed for.
/thread

>>35055139
>they're shit
>i don't own one

you tell 'em, anon.

>>35056146
Well it's also much different than your average semiauto. It's a gas operated pistol.

>>35054801
Yes. They're just wildly impractical for 90% of shooters. They're a range toy for most, and an expensive one at that. Both to feed and to buy.

>>35054801
large game Hunting
>acceptable, although there are options that edge it out
Distance shooting Steel Silhoutte
>nearly perfect
Self defense against dangerous animals
>beaten in every regard by a 10mm glock or EAA
Self defense against dangerous animals and people
>beaten in every regard by a 10mm Glock

>>35055225
>8 shots .357 in an oversized and overweight package
vs.
15 shots of hot and heavy 10mm that's blowing past your average store bought .357

>>35056148
Agreed with everything up till The magtech hate. My 44 seems to eat it just fine.

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>>35057784
That'd be 9+1 rds of .357 Magnum, with recoil like 9mm Luger and the precision of a laser. But yeah, it wouldn't be my go to weapon for bear defense, bit too many ifs and buts, and it's not so fidgety and picky that I wouldn't trust it for metallic silhouette or target shooting, it can be phenomenal here, but it's finicky enough that I would rather pursue other options for potential life and death scenarios, it's a bit too particular for that.

However, the (appropriately named) Grizzly LAR, I think could be a pretty good bear gun, .45 Winchester Magnum is pretty hefty, and it's pretty reliable and functional, with *some* parts compatibility with standard 1911s. It's probably the best short-recoil Magnum in big bore chamberings (the Coonan being the best .357 Magnum short-recoil automatic).
Most short-recoil Magnums aren't really very good, so it says something about the Grizzly (and Coonan).

>>35054801
Long barrel in .44mag is a really good magnum pistol.

>>35058064
It'll hit like a fucking beast, for sure.
Significantly more so if chambered for .440 CorBon

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>>35054801
it's one of only two handguns that fit my hands comfortably.

>>35058099
Are you Paul Bunyan?

>>35058117
just tall

>>35058693
Like Paul Bunyan?

>>35059190
you caught me I am Paul Bunyan

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They're nice range toys, but that's all they're good for.

>>35055225
>357
50ae or bust homie

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>>35059322
>niggas don't know about .440

>>35059519
Lol they made the NES zapper a real thing

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>>35059532
I always felt the old AMC Automag looked a lot like the Zapper.

Shame they batter themselves so badly.

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>>35059587
Also here's some old one-off custom build of an AMC Automag, made for .440 CorBon, not a conversion, but scratch built with all the proper dimensions.

The recoil would be pretty harsh I imagine.

>>35058099
What's the other one?
Mk23?

>>35054801
I read that they were designed to be intimidating firearms for officers and military in Israel to discourage Palestinian criminals, but practically they're inferior to most 9mm or .45acp handguns

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>>35059679
yup since they are the same size

>>35059200
big if true

>>35054801
How do these things hold up on a steady diet of, say, 125gr .357 Magnum?

There's no forcing cone to worry about with a semi-auto.

>>35059687
>I read that they were designed to be intimidating firearms for officers and military in Israel to discourage Palestinian criminals
No.

Literally every story you hear about Israel's military and security forces in relation to the Desert Eagle pistol is 100% fake. They didn't even LOOK at the thing.

IMI only produced it under contract for commercial market sales, and never under the pretenses that it wasn't a sporter.

>>35059839
It'll probably handle it fine, you need to load it hot and heavy for best performance.

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>>35058099
Those are some big hands.
>>35059801
I see what you did there

>>35058099
UUUU

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>>35056148
>You really want a hot and heavy ball round with clean burning powder,

I need this.

>>35056137
A .440 deagle is sort of unobtanium isn't it?

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>>35059532
anon...

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>>35060803
They weren't the most popular caliber, didn't help that CorBon had issues with consistent case production. Coincidentally, this was something that happened a lot back with the Automag and the .44AMP cartridge, I don't know what the issue was with the .440 CorBon ammo specifically (*might* have been split cases), but it was very common for the cases on commercial .44AMP cartridges to vary very slightly in length, leading to reliability issues.

Though the barrels are officially discontinued, and CorBon stopped loading the cartridge long ago, it's not impossible to obtain: a .44 Magnum barrel can have it's chamber converted for the .440 cartridge (and then I guess you could stamp that 0 on the barrel after the .44), and many brass makers like Starline offers having .440 casings made, optionally you can also try to neck and convert .50AE casings.
The magazines should be the same as the .50AE ones, and obviously the slide would be the same .50AE/.44 Magnum slide.

i have seen 357 and 44 versions they any good?

>>35061261
The .357 and .44 Magnum Desert Eagles are infamous for being jam-o-matics. Deagle fanboys will tell you that "It's da ammo! It only runs really hot stuff!" While this may be true, consider that you can buy an 8 shot .357 Magnum or a 6 shot .44 Magnum, both of which will be far more reliable than a Deagle could ever be for half as much.

>but those aren't Deagles anon

Yes, and that's ultimately what it boils down to--LARPing and buying guns based on their presence in movies and video games as opposed to actual performance on the range.

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>>35054801

The L5 genuinely seems like a decent gun

>Still fuck huge and heavy but not ridiculously so
>9 rounds of .357 on tap
>recoil is really manageable
>looks like a cybergat

I hate to say I really want one

>>35060911
>rails
ew no

>>35054936
Revolver hunting sure, but a lot of places don't even allow semiauto pistol hunting.

>>35061606
>as opposed to actual performance on the range.
Show me a revolver with the same low recoil and tight groupings.

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>>35058099
Same here

>>35061615
Yeah, kind of want too. I think it was designed to meet some noguns state law about the weight of pistols or something.

>>35059227
>titanium gold tigerstripe
I want this. HELL, I WANT TO DO DIRTY THINGS TO THIS!

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Yes, why not

>>35062114
>Show me a revolver with the same low recoil and tight groupings.

Sure: https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-29-sw-classics-6-12-blue

It has equal or better mechanical accuracy than a .44 Magnum Desert Eagle and better practical accuracy for the vast majority of people due to the gun itself being 25 oz. lighter.

>>35055246
Yes the .50 has some kick.

It also has "some" noise and "some" muzzle flash.

If you shoot one at an indoor range, you will not make friends of the people next to you.

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>>35060803
it can be said that if

Only agents can shoot them accurately and quickly

t. Netflix

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>>35059322

Get both.

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>>35059587

A lot of early stainless steel guns had issues with galling and premature wear. Keeping it clean and very well greased prevents these issues but grease sucks in the cold.

Everybody says the Deagle isn't a good carry gun but what disadvantages does it have over a .44 revolver?

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>>35064806

It is bigger and heavier than most .44 Magnum revolvers and it costs considerably more on average. Plus improper shooting technique can cause it to jam.

>>35062406
Is it bad that I want to buy one just to be an asshole at the indoor range?

>>35054801
For their intended purposes, yes.

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They're fantastic guns, you just have to know what you're getting into.

>>35061606
>LARPing and buying guns based on their presence in movies and video games
You mean like the Model 29, the python, the raging bull, the obscene amount of 686s in movies and every other revolver that been in film for the past 40 years. Real solid point ya made there. How many people buy ANY magnum for truly practical purposes

>>35064806
The .44 Magnum Deagle is only capable of running reliably with very hot ammunition, which requires you to either handload or to shell out even more for what is already an already expensive caliber. The Deagle itself is also is far more expensive than even a very nice .44 Magnum revolver (50-100% more depending on options) and has the additional malus of being much heavier as well.

The worst part, though, is that all of these disadvantages aren't offset by the kind capacity increase found when comparing revolvers to autoloaders. Your standard .44 Magnum holds 6 rounds. The Deagle holds, at most, 8+1 rounds. Given the choice between 6 highly reliably shots vs. 8+1 notoriously unreliable shots, I will take the former every single time.

>>35065521
>How many people buy ANY magnum for truly practical purposes

Mallninja detected. One of the biggest reasons why revolvers other than Chief's Special-type carry guns remain relevant is because of magnum cartridges. .357 Magnum has among the most distinguished track record in defensive gun use, while .44 Magnum remains the world's premier outdoorsman round for handguns and has proven itself capable of taking anything on earth that has legs when used with hard cast bullets.

>inb4 those somehow aren't "truly practical reasons"

I hope you're not one of those people who thinks that firearms are only relevant and useful in the context of whether they're being supplied to the military or Federal LE.

>>35054801
I OC one in .357 magnum

Darkies get out

They are if you read the manual.

>>35065787
>hunting rhinos is a "truly practical reason"

>>35066448
>No one goes hiking or backpacking except for gay fudds

Good luck taking down an adult moose with your G19 and HSTs.

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>>35058099
>>35062166
Freak-brothers, unite!

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I always kinda wanted one then I seen on for sale on Facebook marketplace of all places. Guy wanted 1000. I got him down to 900. I like having it in my collection.