Californian Starting an Ammo stockpile before 2018 hits.

>>35054422
Also, what are some brands to avoid?

>>35054422
2k-5k for each gun you own. Not each caliber, EACH GUN.

>>35054422
Spend your money on moving instead. If you like guns and still live in California then you deserve everything that happens to you.

>>35055176
>just move
>but don't move to my state
>you'll vote for californian policies even though californian policies are the reason you moved

every time

>>35055193
Nice straw man. I didn't say any of that shit. I'm fine with you moving to my state, as long as you aren't a socialist.

>>35055176
plan on moving to AZ after I get my associates in Auto Tech.

>>35055227
No, moment I do I eat a gun, seriously.

>>35055399
Aww fuck yeah. Az gun laws are laxed as fuck even more than Texan laws.
Fun Fact: it is legal to refuse a gay service except in Tucson, Pheonix and Flagstaff because of city ordinances put in place.

>>35056604
What's a gay service?

>>35055399
Good, because living in california is not at all conducive to being a gun owner.
Either move or enjoy having your balls stomped on by increasingly strict laws every year or two.
Every year in california is as good as it's going to get for gun laws, because it'll continually, and assuredly, be worse next year.
>>35056604
>Fun Fact:
keep that shit in /pol/, that's not weapon related and you damn well know it

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>>35058119
>Living in CA
>notions of "freedom"

Dude, come on. Why do you think I've been trying to work on getting the shit in less than a year or a year at most?

>>35057921
Refusing them service for the only reasoning that they are gay

>>35054422
>>35055176
>>35055193
wait what is actually going to happen?

>>35059972
>no online ammo sales
>restricted to 500 rds/month (no special verbiage for .22lr so 500rd bricks are now illegal)
>no private sales or transferring ammo to friends/family
>you get logged in California's Black Book with every ammo purchase you make

>>35060013
>no online ammo sales
>restricted to 500 rds/month (no special verbiage for .22lr so 500rd bricks are now illegal)
FUCKIN REEEEEEEEE
>no private sales or transferring ammo to friends/family
how would you get caught?
>you get logged in California's Black Book with every ammo purchase you make
you already do. shit man why do you think not only they ask for i.d. but also scan/swipe it?

>>35060013
Oh, and this is a guaranteed side effect of the new rules:
>ammo dealers are now free to gouge you as 1. They no longer have any online competition and 2. They will pass on the compliance costs to the customer and then some

>>35059972
It's California. Who fucking cares?

>>35060098
Don't make me move to your state and support similar laws out of spite, asshole.

>>35060116
Have fun guessing which of the other 49 states I'm in cuck.
Hint: guns and niggers.

>>35055399
We're full, fuck off. We have enough with the spics, so just stay in your shitty state and do us all a favor.

>>35054422
.223 cal and 5.56mm are dimensionally identical. The only substantial difference is rated chamber pressure. Do you really need .223 in addition to 5.56mm?

>>35060246
That's good then, I'll note that.

>>35060236
>All Californians are the same; the post

>>35060098
>infringe on the rights of 40 million americans
>who cares?

>>35059375
>my rock or something

I'm depressed that I know what this means

>>35060128
Alabama?
Mississippi?
Louisiana?
Georgia?
Somalia?

>>35060246
yes.

>>35060116
i chuckled

What happens if you drive NV/AZ/OR to stock up? Are the highway checkpoint guys going to start asking if you have any home-grown fruits or illegal fascist ammunition?

>>35061124
There's rumors of undercover cops in out of state gun stores doing sting ops on people that do that.

It's rumors but taking a chance seems downright fucking risky.

>>35061014
what's it mean? non-infantry here

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>>35062095
US MRE flameless ration heaters instruct the user to place the heater at an angle during operation by leaning it against a "rock or something."

>>35062090
What's illegal, the "buying out of state" part or the "importing into California without registering" part?

>>35062126

i remember being a cadet and having our instructors taking away the leftover heating pads.

something about the stuff being volatile and being able to crate MRE bombs,i always wondered if they were full of shit

>>35062126
wow
I've been digging into MREs this whole freaking time and I just remembered the 'rock or something' on the packaging.

>>35054422
Why dont you just buy a progressive press and reload. Worry about buying .22, 12g is easy enough to reload with a cheap load all

>>35062142
More like "you can't be carrying this shit around in your pants pockets or when it rains you'll burn yourself, gas yourself in your sleeping bag, etc". The bomb thing is just the rumor that trainees pass around because they are too retarded to realize that their cadre are literally just trying to protect everybody from trainee retardation.

>>35062174
1 heater in a half full soda bottle with cause a nice ringing in the ears of everybody. Anybody who hasnt done this in confirmed POG

>>35054422
I would invest in a good progressive press and zealously guard your brass at the range.

or do you need a license and restrictions on components as well?

>>35062188
The implication in the story is that you can make a dangerous explosive, not a dry ice bomb. Everybody knows if you put a gas-producing substance in a closed container it will pop.

>>35062201
Later 2018 is when that goes into effect IIRC.

>>35062139
Buying the ammo out of state is what I'm referencing.

>>35062139
The obstructing interstate commerce part.

>>35062090
>arresting people outside their jurisdiction
I can imagine the power trip Cali lawmakers would have trying to sneak something like that in.
Worse they can do is write down your license plate/drivers licence and arrest you when you enter Cali.

>>35062287
California truly is Hell

>>35062398
>>35062438
I've contemplated going homeless in Arizona or even saving up SOME money to go to college and live in AZ for the rest of my life.

I just don't know how long I can stand this place for or even if it's conducive to my mental health. I visited for three days and it felt like this strange breath of fresh air that I'd never experienced before.

I don't know, maybe I'm just crazy and over exaggerating things.

>>35062438
The triple digit temperature for the past few days certainly supports this statement.

>>35062126
So what is "or something"? If you don't have a rock what can you use? Anything? Or what? They need to be more specific, what if I prop it up with my dick again and get burned real bad? It should say "a rock or something but not a body part"

>>35062460

as a leaf i know what you mean but with me it was shooting guns in kentucky

>>35062090
I doubt that the firearms part of the doj has the funds to do that
But following people to and from out of state gun shows seems to be much more likely

>>35062287
Wait seriously? They are coming after reloaders? I hate this fucking state

>>35061014
Don't be sad Anon, I'm a Syrup-soldier who knows it simply from being here for too long.

>>35062544
You won't get burned, you're supposed to put it back in the cardboard container which insulates the heater well enough. You can safely lean it up against pretty much anything or even stand it up vertical, you just can't have it horizontal or the water could drain out.

>>35062662
They're coming after everyone, none of us are safe. The end goal has always been total civilian disarmament.

>go to other state
>rent a car with that state's plates for the day
>go to gun show
>buy tons of shit
>waiting DOJ fucks can't tell you're from california
>load all your shit into your other car somewhere
>drive back with your tons of shit
that's if you're paranoid about being caught

>>35062287
>Later 2018 is when that goes into effect IIRC.
quote the law please. don't just spread FUD

>>35062755
That similar plan works for me when buying fireworks.

>>35062690
Disarmament is just the beginning... They want more slaves. They are the same royal families and bankers Hitler was after and they are loosing traction fast.

>>35062801
>they are loosing traction fast
Really?

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>>35062801
Woah, easy there sparky that's /pol/ territory area you're going into.

>>35062815
The Internet has been a huge success but not in the way of control...

The truth is flowing and the puzzle pieces are connecting in peoples minds all across the globe. Those families have been exposed BIG TIME and secrets that kept them safe are not secrets anymore....

>>35062856
>A flaming shill appears

>>35062856
He's right though. Dems and neocons are for more government control. The more control they have the less control citizens have. Do you know what they call people with no power over their own lives? Slaves.

>>35061043
It's one of those.

>>35062755
Don't even have to do that, just order ammo online and have it delivered to a UPS store in AZ/NV/OR, then take a day trip to go pick it up. People at UPS store don't know or care if you have a house in their state where buying online is legal, and CA DOJ doesn't have the resources or ability to watch every store or look into people's financials.

If you're buying pallets of ammo at a time every month the ATF will likely come poking around though.

>>35062142
Stick the heater in a plastic bottle. Add water. Shake. Throw. Pressure builds up to pop the bottle scalding enemies.

>>35062937
Unless you got proof, you are the real shill for the ammo scalpers.

>>35055399
Move anywhere you want, but you better not fucking vote left.

t. Floridian watching his state swing back and forth. The only counterbalance we have to the hordes of liberal latinos are the droves of conservative elderly.

>>35062970
I go where there is proof. If >>35062801 has the proof where royal families are actively disarming California as a stage 1 for their global takeover then let him post it and then I'll take back my tin hat claim.

>>35063019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtY0dLfK1Y

Here is a friend of a Rockerfeller telling about how he disassociated himself from the dude after he told him his plans. Disarmament is just one more link in the chain or card in the pyramid in this case.

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>>35062562
a leaf?

>>35062679
The new MREs don't have the cardboard

>>35062287
>Buying the ammo out of state is what I'm referencing.
Definitely can't do that. Privileges and Immunities. That's why gays can get married everywhere now.

>>35063053
Canadian you newfag.

>>35054422
Buy ammo for the guns you actually have or plan to get in the near future. It isn't rocket science.
Crunch some numbers and take into account how often you shoot, how much you shoot, and for how many years you want to shoot. That will be your stockpile number. You can also get in to reloading, or move, or both desu.

I'm stuck here for a few more years but when I'm able to I'm out of here.

>>35063053
It's a /pol/ thing. Since they have flags they have different names for different nationalities.
A (fucking) leaf is Canadian
Burgers are American
Poos are Indian
Bongs are Brits
So on and so forth.

>>35054422
At least you faggots got your dude weed! Who needs guns now that you can smoke a shitty narcotic lol!

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>>35063045
I don't really care about your tinfoil dude.

If you haven't got the guts to do the hard work and put your nuts on the line like: Hitler, Omar ghaddafi, Castro, Sadam, JFK, Linclon, and the thousands of others who did what they could to liberate humanity then the propaganda has worked on you.

Not everyone is dumb enough to think tin foil is useless. It actually can be used to make a faraday cage.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2487180,00.asp

If you want to call me racist or a nazi then I can say you're a fool but realize I am part ashkenazi jew and I absolutely despise the usury and enslavement tactics the billionaires and trillionaires have used.

Jews make up 44% of the billionaires in the world and 0.002% of the human population. If you haven't done so already head over to /pol/ for a red pill thread.

Look into the black nobility/illuminati blood lines and you will find everything you ever wanted to know and more.

>>35063052
Somehow I don't believe that some guy just walked away from David Rockefeller after that creepy old mummy spilled out his entire plans for global domination and lived to make a documentary.
Hell I believe the Clinton body count exists way before I'll take some guys take on it.
I've read the UN's agenda 21 reports as well as declassified CIA white papers for their MK ultra program. These are seriously evil folks we're dealing with, I just wanted to poke the OP and get him back on the subject of weapons or ammo, not conspiracy theory stuff without hard evidence as in actual documents.

>>35063159
>Somehow I don't believe that some guy just walked away from David Rockefeller after that creepy old mummy spilled out his entire plans for global domination and lived to make a documentary.

Aaron Russo is dead.

>>35063180
How and when?

>>35063154
>It actually can be used to make a faraday cage.
You ever try to make a faraday cage? Especially one that can handle a +15db magnetic field that's indicative of a Mass coronal ejection or EMP? Well if you did you would know that your basic aluminum foil is useless. Aluminum foil can be helpful for stray RF radiation but not in the magnitude of the two events i already listed.

>>35063036
After the shit these leftists have put me through as a fucking Filipino, I'm absolutely done watching leftist cocksmoking.

>>35062755
I must be crazy then, I could've sworn there was more to the ammo laws.

http://archive.is/HDXeO

Could've sworn there was more on that ballot when I voted no against this crap.

>Start date for requirement that ammunition sales or transfers be conducted through a licensed ammunition vendor
>Jan. 1, 2018
>When you no longer can import ammunition bought outside the state without first shipping it to a licensed vendor
>Jan. 1, 2018
>Start date for requirement that Californians undergo background checks to buy ammunition
>July 1, 2019

>>35063204
He died shortly after the release of this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDF8R7dXJyo

His last message. There is a short write up on him in the video description. It is /k/ related and on topic, "No longer cooperate with the government"... There is your answer OP.

>be few minutes ago
>just got back from kike-mart
>tried to buy all the bull-letz.jpg
>sorry sir, limit 2 per customer

>>35063261
I bet if you wrapped your wifi router in tin foil it would hardly work my dude. I don't wear a tin foil hat anyway but I see merit in the line of thinking and find it foolish to use a tin foil hat diss image in this or any context.

Buy reloading supplies if you are really serious about maintaining any kind of firearms in California. It will be much more rewarding in the long run.

>>35063089
you can buy out of state but you aren't supposed to bring it back
wink wink

one thing people haven't mentioned yet is C&R FFL and COE lets you still order off the internet because they had a stroke of sensibility and figured gee that guy trying to buy 7.7 arisaka and 6.5 swiss for his old-e-time guns might have a bit of a problem finding it in a store

>>35063331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkGK4vBTnVs

>sensibility
No way man. The government you are talking about is putting the most neurotoxic chemicals into our water.... They have no more sensibility, at all.

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>>35063262
Sounds sort of like tax collection.
At least the other two do, excluding the California law regarding background checks for ammo purchases.

>>35063316
Wrapping the wifi router in foil to shield the signal form getting out and making a faraday cage is totally two different things.
BTE, I don't live in Cali, and I already reload,

>>35063382
i'm still amazed that particular exemption got in. like there's some lone fudd in power on the rules board who argued in favor of his C&R guns and said fuck it to everything else

>>35063389
both dros and the firearms safety cert are taxes. speaking of taxes the CA BOE now wants any gun, even if it was tax paid in another state by the original owner, to have tax paid on it to the BOE

>>35063440
You just picked the stupidest point to argue.

I disagree, because the facts show otherwise.
RFID wallets are a great example of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W0adhqYY6E&feature=youtu.be

Here is some proof of the Rockerfellers involvement in the behavioral sciences.

Let's just keep the thread rolling.

>>35063516
*Warning*
The fagot speaker believes in the holocaust.

>>35063477
I guess I should've used a different phrase than "tax collection". Maybe keeping everything on record would have been a better description. Because I could assume that the amount of paperwork that will be sifted following all of these new rules just for a good supply of ammo. I'm sure they'll have a full write up on you at some point, but I guess that's also good for individual state's gun vendors supply & demand, right?

>>35060236
Naa there's plenty of room since you stopped accepting Mexicans in your state.

You keep saying if we don't like CA gun laws to move, so don't get pissed when we take you up on your advice.

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>>35059375
>tfw no light infantry gf

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california is long overdue for a revolution

the blood god demands blood

.223/5.56, 12 gauge, 8mm Mauser, .380

And .22
>I dont even have a .22 yet and still am buying .22

>>35064280
you're going to get to a point where you're like what the fuck am i buying all this 22 for? i bought a lot of 22lr during 2013 whenever i saw it for good prices at the time like 6-7 cents per round. i have something like 15k rounds of it and i'm not going to shoot it anytime soon.

>>35062157
Even reloading material is regulated.

>>35054422
Embrace the suck.

Did you know more AR-15's were bought last year in california than every other state combined and it actually crashed the CA DOJ servers?

Yes buying ammo in brick and mortar stores versus bulk buying online is going to suck and I hate this law...but despite all the stock piling, We are going to have to buy reloading material and ammo and guess what it's probably going to overload their datbase with worthless tracking of ammo purchases.


It's like as if people who buy guns also buy ammo...big whoop, they already know we have guns...I don't like it, but they do and now surprise surprise puppy surprise, they are going to find out I buy a box of ammo every week...oh god think of the children, better waste money on time having the cops monitor 1/3 of the population of the entire state.

>>35064378
Give me sum niggah.

>>35060070
>Shall

>>35063103

lolno

>>35060966

>40 million americans

Maybe half that actually count as red blooded americans, the rest are cucks.

>>35063001
damn that's a pretty good idea

>>35062856
It's ALUMINUM foil

>>35064544
see this makes me think that they won't be able to handle all of that data - it just smells of something that will be overturned in the near future (hopefully)

did they also make a law against roadtripping to nevada/arizona?

>TFW you have all the 7.62x54r you can ever want
>.30 Carbine is never panic bought
>All you have to worry about is 7.62x39
I think I'll make it.

>tfw NYer

I really hope NY doesn't get any ideas from this. They tried to get some kind of ammo background check thing going with SAFE but it got shelved.

>>35064934
We can only hope

>>35064938
you can roadtrip but you aren't supposed to bring more than 50 rounds back or some shit. with that said no one is going to check. if you've ever been through an agricultural checkpoint you've been waved through to the point you know they aren't going to do fuck all.

>>35065052
they shelved it because they realized gee this is going to get messy fast. california is like it's going to be retarded but we don't care because we're california ^_^

>>35054422
Eww Niggers

>>35063331
>C&R FFL and COE lets you still order off the internet
well thank fuck for that, I just recently got my C&R

>>35064483
>Even reloading material is regulated.
No, it isn't. That's FUD being spread by idiots that don't know how to read statue.

Ammunition components are illegal to possess by anyone the state says can't possess guns and ammo (nuts and felons). It's completely unrelated.

>>35068168
Odds are that most online retailers won't ship to C&R/COE holders, though. It'll be a pain in the ass, and the reason you're ordering online is the low margins, which quickly makes any sort of difficulty for the seller turn the transaction uneconomical.

>>35064934
Once again, I hate this law, gathering info on citizens who have not committed a crime is BS, however just like how Californians are limited to buying one handgun a month and it's registered, it hasn't scared me or millions of other Californians from buying handguns. I used to, I used to be just content with just long guns my whole life but eventually I just bought a glock in every caliber and I haven't looked back since.

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>>35062139
You are only legally allowed to bring ammo into california if you can prove the following:
-you bought the ammo for use during a hunting trip outside CA
-you used some of the ammo during the hunt
-you are bringing back no more than one partial box of ammo or no more than 50 rounds
-you have proof of purchase inside CA of any other ammo you are also in possession of
-you are in possession of a firearm that fires that ammo.


REAL FUCKING COMMON SENSE HUH

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>>35064905
So nearly %10 of the population? Wow dude, get fucked.

>>35068198
Oh thank goodness

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Buy reloading equipment and supplies. Becomes a non issue......

>>35063053
newfags please leave

>>35066977
That's Duterte, he's a flip you mong

>>35068168
you need the COE too which is another $90 and some time to get finger printed. $25 or so for renewal every year.

>>35068231
calguns has a list somewhere of companies that will still ship to california given the proper paperwork