Glad to see the military sees glock for what it is and didn't

>>35048278
Honestly, the military was just afraid to drop the P320 from the trials

>>35048308
Whys that?

>>35048308
kek

>>35048316
Nevermind, I am slow.

>>35048316
>Joke

------------

>Your head

>>35048316
Kek wew lad. Hasn't school begun?

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>>35048316
This really set me off...

>>35048308
>Glockfag still asshurt the M17 is dropsafe

wew laddie

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>>35048621
>Glockfag
Just someone who can take a joke and doesn't feel the need to defend unnecessary brand loyalty through fanboyism.

>>35048621
According to Sig. They also said that the regular model was drop safe until people started posting videos. Post a video of the Sig M17 being dropped on it's back and I'll believe you.

>>35049846
It has a manual safety that locks trigger movement.
You're being a retard.

>>35049846
Yes, according to Sig. The same Sig that put in a striker block and disconnect on the M17 that weren't in the P320. You made an attempt, but unfortunately you're dumb.

>>35048278
>Tan magazine

Why tho

>>35048278
>Flush mags
>Manual safety

DO WANT.

Why doesn't Glock offer different configurations like this? They'd crush any competition.

>>35049916
The better question is why are they still trying to shill the plastic mag meme. There's a reason no other company does it.

>>35049886
It's a striker issue.

>>35049949
This

The P226 should have gotten the contract back in the 80's. Now to compensate they selected the worst Sig ever. Go military!

>>35049976
Are you claiming that Glock OEM mags are unreliable?

>>35049886
>current year +2
>needing a safety to be drop safe
wew

>>35049886
So it'll still go off if the back of the slide is struck.
>>35049896
>The same Sig that put in a striker block and disconnect on the M17 that weren't in the P320.
Either post a source or fuck off.

>>35050327
Not him, but it's probably just unnecessary.

>>35050263
Tell me one thing that the 226 can do that the Beretta 92 can't

>>35049976
>The better question is why are they still trying to shill the plastic mag meme.

They're not plastic. They just have a plastic coating over the metal to make them more durable.

>There's a reason no other company does it.
HK makes mags completely out of plastic you retard.

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Glock could have at least put some taller steel and tritium sights on their pistol. It doens't need to be a MOS model. They should have just put sights that don't suck and are easier to use on their army trials pistol.

Also the Army requirements are dumb. Only the Sig P320 could possibly meet them. it was almost like someone in the army made them so only Sig could get the contract. they should also drop the need for a manual safety.

>>35050589
But anon, it's MAW-JEWELER. Who cares if it's less reliable, accurate, and not drop safe?

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The Sig is making a bounce back.

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>>35050701

>>35048278

>mfw even though the sig won the contract every sof asset and pipe hitter is still going to use the manual safetyless glock 19

>mfw the glock remains the "coolguy" gun

>>35050587
>plastic coating over the metal to make them more durable
>plastic coating
>more durable

Lmao, you've never tried to load dirty/muddy mags. They "coat" them in plastic (aka they're majority plastic with aluminum lining) to save money and make them look lighter on paper.

>>35048825
>doesn't feel the need to defend unnecessary brand loyalty through fanboyism.
Is that why you bought a Legion thats twice the price of an regular 226 yet isnt really any better?

>>35048308
Kek, nice one.

Still waiting for a reply from SIG on my "voluntary upgrade".

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>>35050565
Looks better
But really they should have gone with the M11-A1 like the airforce

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>>35050870
Fucking stupid
Everyone knows that the USP has always been the true operators choice since it was invented

where does all this hate against the 226 come from?

>>35048278
Is that two tone or just the lighting that makes it look that way?

>>35051098

>used by no one

>>35051145

Comes from mental retardation, anon.

Mental retardation.

>>35051214
Issued by no one because they dont wanna pay for it
only a retarded faggot would chose a G19 over a USP

>>35051214
Well, I mean, GSG-9, KSK and the German army do. Plus the MK23 and the HK45 both see use in US Armed forces

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>>35049949
There's an important reason Glock will *never* offer a safety as standard: To do so would admit that the current "Safe Action" trigger system is not sufficient, that in fact, a trigger safety block is needed.

Glock will never admit this. It would undermine the last 30 years of their entire marketing agenda.

>>35051261
yea like all those retarded faggots in spec ops, LEO community, and various other armed organizations.

Clearly they're just biased against the wholly superior USP design.

>>35050502
https://www.sigsauer.com/press-releases/sig-sauer-issues-voluntary-upgrade-p320-pistol/

>>35051527
And https://www.sigsauer.com/support/p320-voluntary-upgrade/#FAQ

>>35051474
>what is a budget

>>35051448
Well they need they realize its more what what someone prefers, rather than if its sufficient or not.

>>35051448
Then why did they add one to the military model?

Also the Sig only got picked because it was a lot cheaper. Literally no reason to go out and buy something because some military picked it for being the cheapest. You should actually be deterred from buying things the police/military use considering their main concern is budgeting.

>>35050915
>plastic coating
>more durable

Correct. You can't scuff or dent them as easily as metal mags.

>Lmao, you've never tried to load dirty/muddy mags.

Yes I have. Glock mags load fine dirty unless they're literally packed with mud.

>They "coat" them in plastic (aka they're majority plastic with aluminum lining) to save money and make them look lighter on paper.

The fuck do you mean "on paper"? They ARE lighter than most metal mags.

>>35051860
Not applicable to small orders from tier 1 units.

>>35051527
>>35051597

These statements do NOT prove that there were striker blocks or disconnects added to the MHS pistols. They only claim that the MHS pistols were not affected, which, unless the above mentioned features were added without being written about, was a lie. It was a lie when they said that the commercial P320 was drop safe as is, and it's a lie now. They have good reason to lie: they want to protect those MHSbucks. Don't listen to a company that lies consistently to protect it's bottom line anon.

>>35052686
>The fuck do you mean "on paper"?
Being light makes Glock look good on paper, but in reality they're less reliable because of it, with the plastic mags, sights, and malfunctions if you don't death grip them.

>>35051098
I like the backwards round in a mag.

>>35053407
This is misinformation. Glock mags have a steel liner, and they are extremely durable

>/o/ tripfags
>on my /k/

>>35053463
>He thinks it's steel

>>35052574
Maybe people shouldn't "prefer" a device that does nothing to increase said guns sufficiency - especially when it makes or breaks a deal on a gun for that buyer. The fact that people have to buy alternatives (and the manufacturers often desperate to even sell those alternative glocks even with rebates) to a glock because of some inane and subjective preference while trying to convince themselves and others their gun is "just as good" says a lot.

>>35051860
LMAO. You do know the Mk23 is in SOCOM armories and was already on their GSA schedule (or however the fuck they order it) and yet they went ahead and put in the extra man hours and all the other associated procurement process for adopting the Mk27 (G19) so they could buy all new units instead of using their existing stock of Mk23s. The pretense that these tier 1 units are all gnashing their teeth over budgetary concerns and only if they could they could already use the USPs in their inventory (and supplement some extra orders to flesh out any stock deficiencies) meanwhile ordering up whole new contracts for acquiring new G19s is laughable.

This is coming from a dude who owns both a Gen 4 G19 and a USP in 9mm. The glock is ten times the gun in design in terms of maintenance and armorers tasks as well as accepting modern features on handguns like RMRs. Just go ahead replace your trigger reset spring in your USP and see how nice of a gun it is.

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>>35048278
Sig only won because there would of been a shitstorm if they updated Berettas.

>>35048308
>carlos

>>35051070
The legion is noticeably nicer. I've owned a SP2022, P239, P229, W. German P220, and a Legion P226. I'm just not afraid to make jokes at Sig's expense. You guys are way too uptight about this shit.

>>35053592
Also the trials were for a modular handgun and neither the Beretta M9A3 or the Glock 19 MHS were modular. Actually, it's surprising that the Glock stayed in the running for as long as it did since it didn't really fit the criteria in the first place.

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>>35053592
um...sweetie....they did

>>35053896
Yeah but the A3 didn't get anywhere. Besides, Sig wayyy underbid everyone.

>>35053589
Whatever asshole. The glock was designed to be simple yes but the usp was designed to last forever. The glock when it came out didn't have a rail dickbreath at all, usp 1 glock 0, the usp would be like a gen 1 glock and you know the series kept going right, hk45 etc so you're cherry picking ya faggot you want to compare glocks newest gen with one of hk's oldest gens.

>>35053923
What are you even trying to argue? What do Gen 1 Glocks have to do with anything? Also, who wants to carry a USP when better HKs are available now except for nostalgiaboos?

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>>35048308

>>35051860
You do know that SOF gets what ever they want when they want even if it's just for 'trial' purposes, right?

>>35052574
They already do in the form of the 17s for various armys and police departments

>>35053896
>they won't just release one in fucking black and retire the M9A1
>yfw the A2 is the A3 in non meme black

>>35050502
I work there, the upgrade package is just the m17 trigger and we are machining the slides for a disconnect, just like the m17

>>35054312#
>I work there
Then tell them to fucking get the rest of their product lines unfucked. Stop with the meme finishes. Stop putting rails on everything. And use a god damn standard picatinny rail when you do. Also pay more attention to the quality of your guns and less on your marketing department.

>>35054392
>meme finishes
Elaborate
>rails on everything
Again, elaborate
>spend more on quality
I've worked at a couple of different fun manufacturers, and believe me the parts sig makes (barrels, frames, receivers, slides) are all checked 100%, and the tolerances in terms of machining are far tighter than anything short of LMT/DD/noveske
The problem with the 320 was an engineering issue, not a quality issue

You have no idea how many times these funds are inspected /tested. There's a lot of good people here who genuinely love guns and want to produce good products. We can't help it when the entire design has a flaw

>>35054438
*these guns

>>35050565
Oh, Beretta is a classic. That was my very first gun

>>35051145
Butthurt

>>35054438
What about all of the MIM parts Sig has made in India?

>>35051193
Plz help my eyes

>>35053896
Wow that looks retarded.

should I buy a sig p320 over a glock 19 as my first 9mm?

is the p230 all metal?

>>35055837
A 19 was my first 9mm. Love it.

>>35054849
>all of them
We had one part we are having made over there and we've started producing it in Exeter ourselves

>>35055837
Do you care more about being able to swap frames and slides or having a gun that's drop safe out of the box?

>>35048825
>People aren't buying boat anchors any more
>I bet we can get them to buy paper clips

>>35055837
Glock 19 gen 5. The triggers are MUCH better than previous gens, as well as the forced talking points from Glock.

glocks are for poor people

>>35053882
It was pro-forma for a "contest". It would have looked bad if all the entrants got dropped before the trials because they can't fucking read.

>>35048278
We still have the contract with the army you faggot

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>>35048308

>>35053868
how do you like the 2022?