/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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>>35045616

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Any enlisted airmen here? How was your job pick, did you get what you wanted? I need 9 AFSC's and I can barely get 5. I'm getting pressure from my recruiter to go to MEPS and swear in already but the uncertainty is hard to swallow.
Considering just going navy intel instead..

What can I do to ensure that I become a respectable officer?

>>35046633
dont be a faggot

I got accepted I think

Airborne infantry sniper and more if anyone has any questions.

>>35046846
Accepted to what?

>>35046869
The marines

>>35046892
Congrats, you have a pulse and don't eat every crayon you come across.

>>35046898
Beats doing nothing with my life.

>>35046901
What contract you sell your soul for?

>>35046908
I havn't yet, but I want 34xx

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>>35045666
>Rich is gone

Even on /k/ I can't run from the pain.

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>>35047010

>>35046769
but that's literally fucking impossible
Example: Ever Officer sans Chesty, and he's a special case

>>35046633

Stay in your lane and be good at officer shit. A lot of enlisted give retarded advice to officers that pretty much amounts to "be a bro-tier platoon sergeant" but that's not your fucking job. Your job is to provide direction and then get rid of bureaucratic obstacles between me and doing my job.

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>>35047010
>>35047087
>rich is gone forever

>>35047010
>>35047087
>>35047905
He died?

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>>35047943
yes, i'm sorry to tell you this. his ex wife has already changed him name back on instagram to "piana" and is trying to claim his company

What can I do to ensure that I become a respectable divison officer?

>>35047950
2 scoops 2 many

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>>35047975
TWO SCOOPS?!?!?!

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>>35047984

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What kind of haircut should I have when I go to the recruiter?

Applied online for the Canadian military. What can I expect in terms on waiting time and shit like that?

>>35047874
Absolutely. You NCOs are the guys really doing the work. You're the backbone of the military, or the engine who powers the car.

>>35048073
Well if there is currently an imbalance between Male/Female members, you might be asked to transition to the opposite gender in order to ensure that hey can't be called sexist

currently considering enlisting army 31b and thinking about the duty stations. do they get deployed OCONUS often? if so, in the hot sandbox bases, do they get outside the wire or they're just inside the wire?

>>35045874
Any particular interests? An important consideration is what bases your job can be stationed in. A buddy of mine from BMT had only like 3 or 4 bases he could go to, and they were in kinda shitty areas, meanwhile my AFSC (3D1x2) has a huge seleection in the US and overseas. I would also stay away from maintenance. As I hear they tend to work long hours.

Someone redpill me on 92Y?

>>35048765
Your job is far more important. Chose a good job. the AF is easily the laziest but id bet my life PJs and CCTs work damn hard.

What branch will give me the most respect from civilians? That's all I care about.

>>35048780
Marines.

I just got out of infantry OSUT ama
I was in that battalion with the sexual assault scandal just a few weeks ago, if any of you heard about that

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>>35048811
>mfw The Marines are now a Meme Branch
>mfw The Marines used to stand for something, but now let felons get in just to make recruiting numbers
>mfw Nearly every enlisted Marine I talked to, at best, found the Marines a waste of four years

Navy or Marine ROTC?

>>35048894
Correct. But they are lionized by civilians.

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What's the best MOS if i want to become physically and emotionally devastated?

>>35048922
Just the other day I was talking with my grandmother and she grouped the marines with special forces and navy seals
They've got one hell of a PR department

>>35048923
POG MOS, the grunts will never let you live it down

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>>35048948
>POG MOS, the grunts will never let you live it down
What's the most physically excruciating POG MOS? I did some bad things in my past and I need to pay penitence

>>35048765

Marines take the cake here, followed by the Army. Navy/AF generally have mission to run so there's a lot less standing around doing nothing.

>>35048959
Join Navy, become green-side Corpsman. Fix Marines.

>>35048959
Who's the titty queen nurse?

>>35048977
Aren't they essentially Honorary Marines?

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>>35048998
how does one into work with these thicc ladies?

>>35048328
Mostly intel and a few cyber positions, I was considering avionics or in flight engineer but I'm not sure about them yet

>>35048984
Yes. Chesty Puller once said that there is no finer job than a Marine doctor.

Is signing an open contract before going to meps the standard now for potential marine recruits? I would like to hear some stories / experiences.

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>>35049447
bump

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>>35049447
>signing an open contract with the Marines
Just be Prepared to go though this phase

>>35048839
>I was in that battalion with the sexual assault scandal just a few weeks ago, if any of you heard about that
story

>>35049006

Been there. Done that. Both sides.

I'll take 60 hour workweeks on mission over chill weeks with nothing important to do.

>>35048839
was it obvious that they were fucking?
anything you wished you knew before going to OSUT?

>>35049530
ok let me clarify my question a bit more. 10 potential recruits want something in the 03xx field / 10 potential recruits have to sign an open contract but get promised something in the 03xx field / How many out of the 10 will end up with a 03xx mos.

>>35049590
they're all water dogs now

Women should not be allowed to serve

This is some bullshit

>>35049612
>they're all water dogs now
if that is true nobody (even the dumbest of teenagers or young adults) would go to a marine recruiter.

>>35049746
muh fuew muh broud

>>35046633
Don't shout. You won't be any good at it. The worst officers, without exception, shout at their guys. You aren't there for that. You should really keep communication with them to a minimum, but you should know as much about them as possible. If they're in front of you for an interview show a genuine interest. Cover them, protect them from the stuff coming downward and do absolutely everything for them.

Ask others for advice. SNCOs will give you it. They'll laugh about it among themselves, but they've heard it all before and they'll know what to do.

The only thing you should come down hard on is anything going outside the system. If an NCO has a reputation for unofficial punishments or bullshit then put a stop to it, immediately. The last thing you want is a fuckup down low, or God forbid something involving the newspapers. Your career will be ended, bigly.

>>35048839
what was the 11b to 11c ratio? How was it selected?

>>35045666
What if im nut to butt in the showers and i slip and accidentally suck someone dick

I want that job from the movie Eye in the Sky where I just control a drone. Is that an officer job or an enlistment job.
If I can't get that job, is there a job that is almost always at Nellis Air Force Base

>>35049675
>This is some bullshit
what is specifically?

I want to remove people and have a death wish, what's the best job that allows that. I know we have forces in Syria

Strongly considering joining the medical component of the Belgian army next year when I graduate from med school.

>>35050222

Best way to kill a lot of people in the military is to sign up to be a nurse in a hospital and then spread bacterial infections.

Thoughts on National Guard? Fuck Afghanistan

>>35050368
You know NG gets deployed too, right?

>>35050654
yeah don't think my state is getting activated anytime soon tho

Anyone here in the French Foreign Legion? How is it/ what is it like?

>>35050794
there was a guy a few months back who was going in. He actually took pics from his hotel room in Paris so I'd say he's legit. Dunno when he'll check back.

>>35049534
>>35049584
In 2-58 battalion in the 198th on Sand Hill, 5 drill sergeants got suspended because a couple of the female trainees (who are still there as holdovers) accused some drill sergeants of 'touching them inappropriately'. Other females in my company who had interacted with them told us that they were completely making it up. But it became a big ongoing scandal and we even were given a phonecall to call home and tell our parents that we were in a different company than the one where that was happening to make sure they weren't panicking that their kids were getting molested or some shit.
So it seems like it's just typical girl crying rape to cover her own fuckups. Also, that same cycle had a couple girls prostituting themselves to the guys in their company.

As for things I wished I knew before I started OSUT: hard to say, it's almost a good thing I went in uninformed. I'm glad I didn't know it would be boring as fuck. You'll be standing in formation at parade rest for longer than you would think you'd be capable of without going insane.

>>35050101
Most active duty guys enter as 11x and get randomly split into 11b and 11c at reception. The companies are homogeneous (either all 11b or 11c) so you won't be training with 11Bs if you're 11C.
I'm Guard so I got to pick and I went in as 11B.

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Hey lads, so after my chat with the recruiter I know that in my heart of hearts that I'm not right for officer training, but I'm not put off working in the army. So my new plan is to find something that I can really specialize in.

What would be idea for me is something where I work in a small team, doing something pretty tricky, with a fair amount of action.

So far the closets thing I've found is Ammunition Technician because the bomb disposal stuff sounds just like the sort of thing that appeals to me. I've been going down the role finder but does anyone else has any recommendations for me?

>>35050188
Not the same guy but they get pushed through training without even meeting basic qualifications
One girl never did the 12 mile ruck

>>35050843
fuck.
I hope Mattis can end this bullshit, if there's any guy who can get shit done it's him.

>>35050843
Oh i agree and i think women are completely useless in the military. I was just wondering what specific example he meant. The way he said it was as if we all knew what he meant.

>>35050831
>5 drill sergeants got suspended because a couple of the female trainees (who are still there as holdovers) accused some drill sergeants of 'touching them inappropriately'. Other females in my company who had interacted with them told us that they were completely making it up
makes sense. Women are useless cry babies.

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>go outside
>eyes immediately bloodshot
I CAN'T ESCAPE THIS HELL
will they even let me join like this

>>35045666
Greetings from PA anons.
my girlfriend's older brother who 'wants to join the Navy', who's really not working on PT, and already had problems on his first try because of a preexisting mental condition. Spends most of the day eating, playing vidya games, etc. Known the guy for years, and from how much trouble he had socializing with people in high school, and generally gives up easily.

I care for the dude, but from hearing him talk about joining the FFL if the Navy doesn't work out, and listing all these reasons why he wants to join, but never really addressing the fact that he doesn't even meet the minimum fitness requirements makes me mad as hell. Like, how are you going to get into the French Foreign Legion if you complain about not having your favorite kind of juice and have pt scores below probationary? I think it's unfair to him that no one in the family is being honest about the situation, and I don't want to be overstepping either.

Any advice?

>>35050842
http://www.army.mod.uk/royalengineers/units/28649.aspx

have a look at 33 EOD.

>>35045666
Anyone here know of successful 18X enlistees? Like, signing the 18X enlistment option, and actually passing SFAS, Q Course, everything without prior active duty experience?

>>35050222
Apache pilot , a10 pilot or anything that does ground attack will probably get you the most kills

>>35051337

About as likely as when a male manager interacts with a female worker or when a male CEO interacts with a low level female admin, but in the military there's a chance that they could get punished for acting on it unlike the civilian world.

>>35051405

You've obviously never seen the shit that flies in the civilian world if you think that the military is bad by comparison.

>>35051262
x-rays who actually make it to SFAS supposedly have a better selection rate than prior enlisted. The army wouldn't still have the 18x program if it didn't work.

>>35051235
Sit his family down and be 100% honest with your feelings and insist/emphasise you are criticizing him out of love and a desire to see him succeed. If they bite and agree you can stage a mock intervention and level with him 100%.
>>35051555
You mean currently enlisted not prior enlisted. Youre wrong either way though.

>>35051908
I did mean currently enlisted, and thanks for providing such detailed information about how wrong I am.

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>>35051993
>x-rays who actually make it to SFAS supposedly have a better selection rate than prior enlisted
This jsut flat out isnt true. I actually like the 18x and seal entry programs however they definitely serve another purpose. And thats to get a lot of failures so they army and navy can shuttle those failures into undermanned moss and rates. I agree with that though, if youre stupid enough to take an 18x contract and youre not fully prepared than you deserve to fall into needs of the army.
Same for navy, which iw as in, like half the undes guys on my boat were bud duds.

Anyone here a seabee? How is it? I'm thinking of joining to become a builder

>>35052077
>Anyone here a seabee? How is it? I'm thinking of joining to become a builder
I thought they were getting rid of seabees? Also i was quite surprised to find out that you have to be a citizen to join the seabees. Why is that the case?

>>35052029
So you're a navy vet and are just assuming 18x and BUDS are the same program?

There is at least 5 months of training before SFAS (not including holdover time between classes) where most x-rays will quit. Those who don't quit went through OSUT/Airborne/SOPC together immediately before SFAS. Going into selection with a group of people you already know very well and have trained with for months is a huge advantage.

So like I originally said *x-rays who actually make it to SFAS* supposedly have a better selection rate.

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Combat Engineer for National Guard?

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does anybody have an invite to the discord? the one in the OP is old.

>>35052152
Shit I haven't heard of that until now. I can't find anything about it except a blog from six years ago and some 404'd articles

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>>35052077
Someone explain why this bee has Three Ranks

>>35052029

Anon is actually right that the 18X selection rate is pretty good.

The worthless 18X enlistees who didn't prepare never make it to Selection in the first place.

So If I want a good career in medicine what branch do I go too?

>>35052515

College

>>35052550
Should I just go into debt and pay it off or go into the military and get a degree while getting experience?

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>>35052276
>So you're a navy vet and are just assuming 18x and BUDS are the same program?
Thats not what i said you mouth breather. I mean the are similar contracts as in you can come in off teh street and get one. Second off the are even more similar as Pre-buds takes place befoer buds so they build comradery there. But again that has nothing to do with my point.
>So like I originally said *x-rays who actually make it to SFAS* supposedly have a better selection rate.
Youre still originally wrong. Post data. The vast majority of people becoming green berets are current enlisted. Even if you make it to SFAS as an 18x you still have a very low chance of getting selected. Its definitely possible but still low as fuck.
>>35052429
Correct. The fact they even let you come in off the street and try out is a huge treat. If you fuck it up thats on you. You can blame them for giving you the opportunity.

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>>35052605
Bane?

>>35048158
Seems legit

How's being an airman K?

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Anyone going for their air contract? Currently in the USMC PLC program slated for OCS in the summer.

>>35053204
Good Luck, here's hoping you don't get an aircraft that doesn't fall apart during takeoff

>>35052601

Neither is right for everyone. Depends entirely on your goals.

>>35045666
Thanks doc

what's life like for an IT on a carrier

>>35046866
I really thought people would ask me questions considering yalls silly operator dreams and all that lol

>>350537
Which SOF group gets missions that are the closest to what snake does?

>>35046866
did you practice shooting before OSUT?
were you always a good shot, or did you practice a lot?
How long were you in before you went to sniper school?

>>35053464
I want to better myself and take care of my family while making them proud.

>>35046866

Who has the better program: SF sniper, Air Force counter-snipers, or Marine snipers?

Is it better to practice shooting before going in or wait until we're in? A friend says that if you develop bad habits before going in that it results in you carrying those bad habits in, and if you learn while in basic instead those bad habits don't get developed.

>>35053931
>Air Force counter-snipers
What do they do? Sit in a chair while waiting for snipers to plop up?

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>>35054007

They are deployed in sensitive areas to basically wait around for reconnaissance elements like enemy snipers to come take a poke at our forces, and to make sure that if they show up to try that they never report back.

>>35053931
>Who has the better program: SF sniper, Air Force counter-snipers, or Marine snipers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5IWK9sRYTs

>>35052416
1 rank 1 tool

>>35052312
If guard is what you wanna do, AND 12b is what you wanna do. I'd check out your local unit and ask them, the way it works is you know exactly where you'll be reporting to after MEPS.

Women have no place in the armed services besides medical rates, certainly not in combat roles

>>35054168
your a tool

>>35054184
Agreed.

t. just signed for a combat arms mos

>>35054184
>rates
Let's get one thing real fucking clear: women don't belong on ships in any capacity. Their presence merely complicates the delicate society that is a crew on sea tour.

What's being in the reserves like?
Is it like having a casual/part time job but military with little/no combat deployment, is it more intense or is it just like a gym+pt you get paid to use.
Aussie btw if anything is different here.

>>35051262
Pat Mac

>>35049447
Yes, you will sign a DEP contract. Don't worry that can't ship you on it. You will sign one with a specific contract or open if you choose (don't go open)

>>35049590
If you sign an open contract with you recruiter you're probably gonna be a cook. Once you go to boot camp your open contract is out of your recruiters hands.

>>35054876
I could be wrong but i think noways they have you sign an open contract at meps (because meps costs them money? idk) but promise a new / specific mos contract before shipping to boot camp.

>>35047993
Neon teal Mohawk.

>>35054450
100% yes

>>35050842
>he didnt want to be an officer
>an extra year @ sandhurst
>plus your normal training
>get paid far higher than regulars or whatever they call the basic people at the bottom
lmao, missed oppertunity, what did he say that made you not want to be one? im thinking of being an officer in the brit army too

>>35056622
The think that put me off was that there is a lot of office work, an Officer is a managerial role on top of all your regular duties, each to their own but I wanted to join the army for some action, not to be filling in health and safety forms

>>35052344
https://discord.gg/KKMpfs

>>35049012
Look at that little jew goblin. Millions of dollars in her bank and it still lives its life as a disgusting fat little dyke goblin. I guess I shouldn't expect anything else from a pussy pebbler.

>>35056969
Its cause shes a jew. her jew parents are the only reason shes famous.

>>35056906
You fucking moron.

>>35050842
I think you should seriously consider what you're getting yourself in for and why.

>What would be idea for me is something where I work in a small team, doing something pretty tricky, with a fair amount of action.
I have no idea what you mean by this. Really, I don't. Even if you get a small unit posting you're still going to be tacked on to something a lot bigger. There are, to my knowledge, a grand total of three properly independent small units that don't have immediate oversight. None are possible to join as a civilian. All are extremely selective, and all are extremely boring.

>>35056906
Officers are managers. They don't do that on top of "regular duties", that is their regular duty.

>not to be filling in health and safety forms
This really isn't for you. If you're interested in being an AT and hate the idea of filling in forms, and want "action", then there's something wrong. Bomb doctors require immense patience and an absolute 100 percent interest in doing things the correct way.

>>35057376
y...you too

>>35057421

Not to nitpick but:

>Commissioned Officers are administrators and sometimes technical experts if they are a pilot, HUMINT, SOF, a Doctor, or some such thing
>SNCOs are managers and subject matter experts
>NCOs are technical experts with some management duties
>Warrants are technical experts
>Junior enlisted are worker bees becoming technical experts

Upper management and low-level admin have some overlap though. Otherwise spot on.

>>35054467
Bump

>>35051392
So, like, always. Got it.

>>35057664
Imagine being able to get free food from Applebees on Memorial day, but you know that everyone hates you and that you're not a real member of the military.

The only difference between you and stolen valor is that they don't know everyone hates them

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I fucjed up bad
I majored in computer science
What do I do?

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>>35057853
scary accurate

>>35057857
computer science your way out of it

>>35057857
how is that a fuckup?

>>35046866
In your opinion, what is the best "pipeline" (since a literal one doesn't exist, as far as I know) to becoming a sniper in the regular army? How about the guard? Have you attended any courses besides jump school and sniper, such as air assault? Which course that you've attended was the most challenging? How much do you enjoy your job?

Are commissioned officers able to switch branches?

>>35057548

>SOF officers are technical experts

Found the guy who hasn't actually worked in SOF.

>>35058161

Like CMFs within the Army? Rarely

Like between uniformed services? Almost never.

>>35058401
Secondary question: these threads always advise to stay away from the Marines, but is that true for the enlisted side or is it just as bad for the officers?

>>35058390

They go out into the field from time to time and have to be proficient to do this. I'm not taking expert to mean anything other than proficient, but I suppose that it's fair game to nitpick my nitpick.

>>35057881
>>35057886

WHAT
DO
I
DO

>>35058604
Get a comp sci job somewhere. Why are you in this thread?

>>35050842
https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/joining-as-ammunition-technician.135634/
Very important info regarding the trade:
>[...](if you joined it for less than 12 years then why did you bother in the first place?)[...]


What's the minimum time you would need as a EOD tech to reach anything in that trade in the US?

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>>35058543
You have got to understand this about the Marines: They're all PR and no substance.

The main reason you don't want to join the Marines as Enlisted is that they do not want you there any longer then necessary, They want them young and stupid and a little crazy, and four years in the corps tends to strip these traits. That's why Marine living conditions suck and promotions are slow. They want the disillusioned marines out ASAP.

When it comes to Officers, your prospects are much better but again, they want you out in 5 years. In order to do this, they give out slow promotions to the officers as well. Since most officers are entitled College Graduates, and given the two promotion attempts rule, this is sufficient to ensure only those who enjoy sucking the green weenie stay. The big issue here is all the Marines really trained you to do here is administrate or if your lucky, pilot. If you administrate, you have no real edge over a civilian who was administrating straight out of college. If you're a pilot however, prospects are much better.

>>35058639
So I should definitely try for the Navy first?

>>35058639

>Private industry won't teach you to administrate

It's actually not easy to find an org willing to train you and immediately put you in charge of 20-100 people right out of college while also paying a solid wage.

Management is *all* about experience, and the military lets you short circuit the part where you're an assistant manager in retail or food service.

Unfortunately, mid-level management/admin/consulting jobs don't actually pay that well, which is why many junior officers eat a compensation cut coming out of the military.

>>35058727
>It's actually not easy to find an org willing to train you and immediately put you in charge of 20-100 people right out of college while also paying a solid wage.

Agreed, however, let's look at the process that the Marines go though in making an officer.

First is just getting selected for OCS. I'm not sure how it's done to be honest, but your percentages to get into OCS per year can vary wildly depending on Marine Corps funding.

Next is OCS it's self. From what I can gather, about 20% drop out due to Mental Fatigue, and anywhere between 10% to 30% drop out due to physical injury. Taking the minimums, you have at least a 30% chance of getting dropped. Compound that with a 10% drop rate due to OCS for performance issues, that's a 40% chance of not finishing OCS. So you've essentially wasted at least a year of your life trying to become a Marine Officer only to leave either due to your own mental in-fortitude or no fault of your own, AND you're possibly walking out with injures that the government (as far as I know) won't compensate you for.

So the time investment to reward chances if it just comes to being put in charge of people right out of college doesn't fit. There are far more optimal paths and other branches that will do the same thing but not leave you with time wasted or injuries that will haunt you the rest of your life.

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any serving guys in this thread, i need some advice

basically my former batallion had a hiring freeze, and almost ceased to exist, because the goverment thinks its better to fund old people and sandniggers. Most got let go or forced to move somewhere else. I got moved to another battalion as a fucking desk job

i really feel like quitting, as i have no interest in what i am currently doing, and im looking at deployment next year and they wont offer me a different job until after.

its way easier to search for other jobs when youre in the system than being civilian, but im going to waste at least a year in my position.

these guys has high expectations for me. I dont want to burn any bridges, because its a small army and your reputation can easily get around if you get known to fuck someone over. But still, i was forced in this position, it was never my choice.

how much do i lose/gain by staying/leaving and is it worth it?

>>35059112
Are you saying instead of re-enlisting basically should you get out and then try and re-join?

>>35059151
get out and hide so i dont get deployed for half and year and then search for another position meanwhile. Soon i will be locked and cant move inside the system, so i will have to quit and rejoin later

>>35059174
>get out and hide so i dont get deployed for half and year and then search for another position meanwhile
That sounds like a huge amount of hassle but if you think its worth it go for it man. Is your current job really that horrible?

>>35059204
its logistics, feels like a warehouse worker

>>35059251
Ya tahts fyucking gay. Whats your real MOS and what did you actually do?

>>35045874
Air force will treat you better. Tell your recruiter to fuck off if he's pressuring you to go to MEPS. take your time, research your desired AFSCs and when yoiu make your decision, go to MEPS. The best way to fuck up your chances of getting a job you want is to make your intentions clear to your recruiter and that you won't be signing an open contract.

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I know it sounds stupid, but I'm honestly conflicted between enlisting as an Army medic or wheeled vehicle mechanic. Sure, I like cars, but I feel that I could do more good as a medic.

Is there anyone here in either mos? Do you enjoy what you do?

>>35059820

If you join the Army to do something related to what you love, the Army will do their best to ruin it for you.

>>35059834
The Trick is the never do anything you love. Do something you're good at.

>>35046633
Treat your enlisted with the same countries as they're expected to show you. Nobody likes being called by their first name when they're required to address you as "captain snuffy" or whatever. Stand up to talk to your subordinates if theyre already doing so. It's not required but it all plays into showing humility and humbling yourself. Everyone hates that butterbar who thinks he's hot shitand tries to pull rank on E-9s. Just don't get an ego and you'll be respected.

>>35059863
>countries
Courtesies. I'm a phoneposter if you could tell

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>>35059834
>>35059857
pic related
>>35059874
>>35059863
>I'm a phoneposter if you could tell
Could tell from teh terrible post. The way you get respect is by being good at your job. Thats all that matters.

>>35047993
Who cares it's going to get shaved off anyways. The only benefit a good haircut would give you is a positive first impression. But even still, if you look like a degenerate pothead meet, the recruiter will still verify if you're eligible or not.

Army BCT, how hard is it 1 to 10

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>mfw these threads ruined the Marine Corps for me

>>35059820
68w here. I'd go medical every time. I've interacted with 92bravos when I was working sick call and can honestly say, they are dipshits. Don't be a dipshit bro

>>35059929

Just wait for another war to pop off. I had the best (and worst) times of my life serving as an 0311 during OEF.

Garrison USMC is gayer than aids.

>>35059961
I'll be too old by then probably, and last I checked, the USMC doesn't hand out age waivers for either enlisted or officer

>>35045874

You don't actually have to take the job they give you. I waited 4 months until the job I wanted opened up.
DO NOT go open general if you have jobs you actually want to do. 9 out of 10 of them get security forces.

Britbong here hoping to get some advice. Thinking of joining the navy as an officer but can't decide between Logistics or Training Management.

Logistics is supposed to get more time at sea/be more involved in actual navy life but has the potential to be quite boring as an actual job.

Training Management is slightly better paid + you get the chance to do more interesting work but it's mainly shore based and has very little involvement in actually navy life.

What do anons?

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>>35048765

Air Force, aircrew to be specific.
>Go in to work at 8, 2 hour lunch, leave at 3.
>You TDY to cool places, and your jets tend to "break down" on the way and have to stop at places like Hawaii.
>You work side by side with officers and senior NCO so you don't get treated like shit by them.
>Flight pay and TDY per diem is nice. You also get the best accommodations when you deploy. ie mechanics and guards have to sleep in tents, flyers get rooms with AC cause muh crew rest.

>>35060062
why would you want to get time at sea?

fuck that, go for training, if you want logistics get a civilian job, it pays better

At Ft Benning osut for 19D right now, got my phone for a few hours if anyone has any questions.

>Does it suck?
Fuck yes it does

>>35060240
What sucks exactly do you wish you would have chosen a different mos , if so which?

Thinking of becoming an RAF weapons technician.

Does anyone have any insight towards this role?

>>35060264
It's just a lot of bullshit. A lot of waiting around. For example we had live fire week this week and we went out to the range at 8:00, wait around to shoot 50 cal and m240 during the day and then sit around in the rain and wait for shooting at night. End up getting back to the bay at 23:00. We did this a few days.

Shit like that. It's slow and just sucks. Don't really regret it though, it'll be cool when I get to my unit but fort benning just sucks period. Hot and humid, fucking spiders everywhere.

Is a 3.5 in Computer Science competitive for a commission?

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Should I go infantry or combat engineer

>>35060445
Bump for interest

>>35060445
If you are legit too stupid to a) specify the branch and source of commission and b) to Google this shit on your own or just ask a recruiter, you are probably better suited to enlisted.

>>35060694
>better suited to enlisted
>enlisted are dumber than officers meme
Haha we're all captain america!!!

>>35059995
USMC is weird for commission because the standard cut off age is lower than the Army (28 vs 33 right now, give or take) but you can actually commission in the Marines up to 34 with a waiver. However, you would basically need a perfect PFT to even get the waiver approved. Highest I've personally seen was a 33 year old selected.

>>35060704
You lack the motivation and drive to not only do your own research, but to even ask a complete question. Trust me buddy, you'll be happier as enlisted.

>>35060752
That wasnt me you were replying to you moron. IM shitting on what youre saying so obviously I
was enlisted not an officer. Think about it. Clearly based on your logic you werent an officer.

>>35060694
Navy, my apologies.

>>35060771
Holy shit are you dense? That's not fucking me!!!

>>35060810
Its not me either.

>>35053812
>>35053931

No not at all. I shot before I joined but with no knowledge whatsoever. I came into it open minded and didn't have bad old habits, so that can help out.

Generally the most important thing is being taught correctly. 99% of the military doesn't know good marksmanship, and pseudoscience is rampant throughout. You'll have dudes who think 'maximum ordinate' doesn't exist and that a round 'spins upward' and shit.

Took me about 2 years before I ended up finally going to school. A year and a half to get into sniper section.

The reality of the Army is that its 95% to get schools. You can be a brand new private who gets automatically sent to recce/sniper/scout section in an infantry battalion, and go to sniper school asap and pass. So there is no preset expected timeframe before going, try to asap.

>>35058041
As I said above, its luck and volunteering at the right time. Fill out and finish your packet asap.

If you specifically want to be airborne, get an option 4 on your contract. Try picking up RASP or 18X in basic, if you grab it before you join it extends your contract 1.5 to 2.5 years more than a normal contract. Meaning less reenlistment, PCS, and ETS options. You want options, you might hate your job, you might hate your unit, you may hate the Army.

As far as best school, no idea, I've only attended the Benning school. I hear the NG sniper school is ideal because a huge emphasis is put on teaching and preparing rather than tests and go/no-go's. Going in blind sucks, where as the NG cozy you up to it.

Why is there such little information on weapons technician online?

>>35060978
But... I'm already a loser

>>35060989
Same reason there is as little info on any military job. They want to hide how fucking boring it is from you.

>>35061004
So fucking true. I've been researching this shit for 6 months now and I've realised the military isn't the fun and adventure I had in mind after all.

Hopefully once I am in my attitude will change...

Is it possible to join the IDF as a kraut without the slightest jewish roots?
Joining our Bundeswehr is as far as I know quite a hassle and even if you succeed, you would be dealing with a bureaucratic monster on a everyday basis.

>>35061033

>wants to join a military organization
>doesn't want to deal with a bureaucratic monster on an everyday basis

I've got bad news for you son....

>>35061119
I mean not a just the usual load of bureaucracy, I mean GERMAN bureaucracy.

>>35061140
Ah yes, the last living remnant of the 3rd Reich

Going to Uni for a degree in Electrical Engineering, want to go OCS afterwards and either fly someshit or stick with engineering. Which branch is easiest to get a commission as a pilot? Also if I get a 3.2 GPA in college am I fucked?

>>35061721
Muhreens

Source: Marine recruiter at my uni. He wouldn't lie, right?

>>35061721
3.2 is not very competitive for pilot slots. If you don't care what you're flying, you'll have the easiest time flying helicopters with the Army.

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Made this while I'm waiting around in DEP, might be useful to some of you. Basic Army information.

o/

Hello /k/omrades, 19D heading out for BCT in exactly 7 days.

>>35061814
don't do it you're gonna get memed brah

>>35061831
Too late, already sworn in, already packed. I stand ready to embrace the memes.

>>35061772
Is it possible to apply for the pilot slot only? I only want to do engi or pilot.

>>35061780
cool and thanks anon

>>35061836
Not him but it's literally not too late until reception.In any case good luck. You'll like it eventually.

>>35061947
Yes, I believe pilot is something you have to specifically choose in every branch. However, if you fail flight school the military can put you to use somewhere else.

>>35062121
Doesn't the army make you enlist before OCS though? I'm scared of ending up a freshly commissioned transportation officer, or worse, being one of the 10% that wash out and get fucked by the big green weenie.

>>35061780
hey, that's pretty nice. Thanks.

>>35062071
Thanks, I appreciate the good words. I want it and everything that goes with it, good and bad.

>>35062849
Yep. Reception is the worst. About half way through you'll be thinking "hell I like this."

>>35061780
Damn dude, my recruiter only told me to learn the ranks and soldiers creed.

>>35060000
What job did you want exactly? If I swear in and he calls me up and says hey we got you booked for such and such, I can just tell him nope and sit in DEP until the one(s) I want pop?

>>35058609
WHAT
DO
I
DO

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For ROTC: do I need to contact an OSO before beginning ROTC or do they literally handle everything within ROTC?

>>35048923
if you wanna be so emotionally devastated you become suicidal go navy nuke

>>35052152
the Filipinos are too small thats why

>>35054450
agreed

>>35048073
You gonna be waiting a long time. Unless you're some sort of minority though.

Are you pretty much guaranteed to aquire a fucked up body if you end up working in any sort of frontline/infantry position or is it all just a meme and can be avoided?

>>35064032

I did 5 years and ended up needing spine surgery. Took me out of the fight for a bit, but I am 100% now and fitter than ever now.

Not everyone ends up getting blown up, or crash lands into a tree stump on a jump, experiences their body just degenerate from the constant long distance rucks and running endless miles on asphalt, but the possibility is there. It is up to you to insure you get the proper recovery (when possible) injury prevention exercises, hydration, and nutrition your body needs to stay in the fight.

>>35064062
Not him, but I just enlisted for 6 years in the guard in a combat arms mos. Should be pretty good to go right?

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Gonna complete my first year in the US Army on the 6th. I miss smoking weed so much. Friendly reminder. After they test you the first time at MEPS they don't test you again. Not at MEPS the second time when you go to ship, Not at reception, not during basic. You can literally do as many drugs as you want and not get tested.

>t. 11b in the US Army right now.

>>35064557
Do you actually get a lot of range time? Do you regret going infantry or is it actually fun?

>>35063038

1A3 Comms Operator

Had I known though I'd rather gone 1A9 or 1U cause sensor operator is way more fun. You get to shoot the guns on the AC130 or be chopper gunner, or at the very least direct air strikes/mark targets.

Yeah, remember it's a volunteer service, so he/she can't actually make you take a job you don't want to. Just tell them you're very firm on some choices and that you're willing to walk away too. Of course don't be a dick about it but don't fold. It's a big decision and you shouldn't be forced into it.

>>35064644
During basic you do. I have literally not shot a gun since basic. When I got to my unit they made me a driver so I just spend all day sitting in a gay ass Bradley while the dismounts get to clear buildings and shit. According to my leadership though we have some range days coming up.

Anecdote: I just got back from NTC (Look it up if you don't know what it is) and I didn't fire a single round.

No I don't regret being Infantry. I joined to satisfy my /k/ boner and so far it has been fulfilled. If anything it has been over fulfilled.

I'll be here all night if you have more questions.

>>35064685
Run into any 13foxs? What do you see them doing?

>>35064715
Yeah. 13F are kind of like medics in that they are their own little group but are also often attached to Infantry. If you are a FISTer you'll probably either be your own team rolling around looking for targets to laze or attached to a platoon to provide extra air and artillery assets to them. 13F seems like a pretty chill MOS if you want some independence and a small team to work with.

>>35064685
What would you recommend going for between infantry/ranger/SF and pilot (most likely rotary)? Also besides infantry what would have been your 2nd choice for MOS?

>>35045666
Which branch is the least racist? I'm leaning towards Air Force. Army and marines seems like it's filled with rednecks and republicans

>>35065016
Infantry, Ranger and SF are three VERY different things. Definitely not SF though becguys.ause SF is a meme to get people to do MOS's people don't want to do. If you didn't know, despite what they say if you fail your 18x contract (Which you likely will) you get reclassed to needs of the Army and trust me. Seriously, take my word for it from experience. It is never going to be a reclass to infantry. Ranger is a safe bet. They wont reclass you if you fail. If I wasn't infantry I probably would have gone 13F or some super sham MOS like fueler. Like I mean they literally just hand you the pump and you do it yourself. Fuck those

>>35065061
Yea i know is not a good idea to go 18x ,i should've clarify but i meant going for ranger and eventually try out for SF. It is either that route or pilot

>>35064032
its almost impossible to work construction and not destroy yourself, so yeah it wouldn't surprise me if its pretty difficult to be frontline/infantry and avoid such a fate

>>35064732
Cool. Thanks.Just enlisted into that and trying to get a good idea of what the junior enlisted side of the job is.

>>35065051
All branches are republican majority because its mostly men and its the military.

Going airforce pog officer is a great way to try and berate other people however.

Anyone here Army Intel with the ADF? Looking at joining and would love some understanding of what the job is like.

Do I have to pick an MOS at MEPS? I can just hold off and assess my options afterwards, right?

>>35066930
Im where u r. Im 99% sure you sign your contract before boot camp and after meps

I'm a cs major what do I do?

>>35068238
is this a meme? Why do you keep posting this?

>>35045666
>went to MEPS as an officer
>find out enlisted have a swear-in ceremony at MEPS and then they ship out

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>>35068275
>went to MEPS as an officer
You are retarded

>>35065051
Coast Guard, if you consider it a real branch.

>>35068275
I dont even understand this post

>>35068250
Cause I don't know what to do

>>35059925
2. 3 if you include reception.

>>35068391
Thanks for actually answering. So not bad at all? Also, weigh in only at MEPS right? I'm right on the line and want to be sure I'm not over at any point it matters

>>35068368
what do you mean dude? Are you asking if you should drop out of school and join the mil?

>>35068403
BCT and MCRD for that matter are designed for you to pass. They're literally not difficult at all if you can just follow directions.

>>35068275
yeah it's just a physical for officer candidates
much shorter day, p nice

Will it be tough meeting the standards for Airborne if I'm not already doing straight 70s on all APFT events? If I joined today with these stats, could I still pull off Airborne?
>49 pushups
>51 situps
>18 minutes to run 2 miles

I realize only my pushups meet the minimum for Airborne, but could I make up the difference in BCT?

A week or two ago, some anon said that if you went 68W with option 4 or option 40, you would be set for your military career. I was wondering if anyone could elaborate on that?

>>35068368
Join navy or any branch with cyber shit

>>35068424
>>35068516
I already graduated
I can't do CS things
Can I be an officer can u do qbythib

>>35068452
>>18 minutes to run 2 miles
JESUS WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
This is borderline insane how slow this is.
>>35068524
>I can't do CS things
Why?
>Can I be an officer can u do qbythib???
What? Dude what fucking country are you from your english is fucked

What mos would be the most similar to using a mecha?

>>35068614
19k

>>35068614
Heli pilot

>>35068683
Between an attack heli and a fighter/attack plane which will be the most similar piloting a mecha or an Eva?

>>35068831
>>35068614
How about you stop trying to find anime in the real world and stick to your backwards books, weeb

>>35045666
any experience here on top secret clearance questioning at MEPs?

trying to go 35M, medical ,questioning and enlistment are my next steps.

>>35068875
NO U

>>35068452
>but could I make up the difference in BCT?
yes, you will do push ups and sit ups almost all week. If you have good genetics ( are/have been in solid physical fit form before) then BCT can get you back into pretty good shape. Enough for Airborne and other similar schools? Definitely. Enough for SOF and other top tier schools? Most likely not, may need at least a few months of preparation if not several. Depends are your Genes and work ethic.

>>35068915
A few months? Maybe I have good genes (I'm probably average), but if you improve your push/sit up count by one a day you'll be making PFTs in no time, that's how I did it.

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>>35068452
You are terribly slow but my APFT was worse than yours when I first got to basic, hell my first PT test was 96 and an 1830 mile. Now I score like 265 and my score was high enough by the end to get offered an SF contract (Didn't take it but still).

>>35059947
waiting for a 68w contract currently. did it take you long to get one when you signed?

>>35069089
What mos? Why didn't you take the SF contract?

>>35059947
and also any advice for someone who is going to be a 68w?

i'm 6'5 and 28 native california white male
>walk into recruiter's office
>state that i'm a complete and total loser limp dick fuck up who wants to join combat arms as quickly as possible
>state that my entire education was built on 4chan via shitposting and playing video games on the hardest difficulties I can bear
>upfront state that I smoke weed every single day

how quickly can I join what ever I'm actually qualified for based on these credentials?

>>35069288
Recruiter would say "Son, try the Marines, you'd be perfect."

>>35069314
that makes me happy

>>35069288
instantly dq'd

>>35069097
No I got it immediately. After I took the asvab, my recruiter reserved it for me and I went to meps a few days later. Passed the penis inspection and everything.

>>35069226
Start studying now. Get an emt book and read it If you're already not nationally registered as an emt. After emt phase, and you start doing medic shit in ait, it's a breeze man. And enjoy SAN Antonio while you're there.

>>35069199
11B. It's the only MOS that gets offered 18X. I didn't take it because I know my own limitations and plus I don't want to make this a career. I'm one time and done DESU.

>>35069288
Stop smoking weed, you get drug tested. Being 28 is your biggest fuckup. Mahbe join and try to serve until you are elgible for the gi bill, but youll need to not get terminated

>>35069288
They will still probably take you as long as you show effort to change and you can run at least an 8 minute mile.

As long as you join as a POG.

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Just graduated high school 3 months ago going to pick my mos this Wednesday combat engineer or infantry?? And also I really want to leave as soon as possible am I able to get a ship really early

>>35064649
Should I tell him that before or after I go to MEPS?

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Any advice on Air National Guard?

I'm in Cali, and want to try for PJ's. I'm a decent runner and great swimmer.

But can I do it while I'm in school? I have 3 years of my undergrad left to do still.

>>35069288

God damn retarded.

The most lenient weed standards are in the air force and they'd probably tell you to fuck off after admitting that.

The military doesn't need people in the slightest right now. People are clamoring to get in because it is easy money, you get the gi bill, and you have a minuscule chance of getting deployed.

>>35068343

Some stupid faggot wants to impress 4chan strangers by telling them he went to meps as an officer hopeful.

Since that is obviously his first time, he just went to take one of the exams... he hasn't even been selected.

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>>35045874
dont go open you will get a shit job. Remember your recruiter works for you, not the other way around

>>35048328
i work maintenance. there are long hours. it sucks dick

>>35069089
That high by the end of BCT or by the end of your contract?

>>35071059
BCT. But admittedly I did get recycled because in my first training company I failed the third PT test (The first one that matters) so I did BCT twice.

>>35066955
some people are def saying they signing @ MEPS, I believe you can wait but there will be pressure to sign at that time, could be wrong though

If I identity as a gay dinosaur, can I still enlist in the Marines?

>>35045682
Thanks, I'm a fat fuck, and this will help me keep a good routine.

I've been thinking of going 68W in the Army. How often do you see combat? It doesn't really matter to me, it's mostly personal interest.

How fucking long does it take to get a waiver

>>35071342

Depends, are you getting a waiver or did they tell you that they're putting in for a "waiver"?

Prier active army, current intel reservist. Thinking about going navy as an aircraft electrician.

What do?

>>35071361
Submitted the waiver request

>>35066930
>>35066955
>>35071122
You'll swear in and contract the first time you go to MEPS if you do well on your tests and nothing holds you back. You do all the necessary tests, medical, and security stuff before sitting with the counselor, that's when they go over vacancies. There is tremendous pressure too pick your job then and there, if you decline and are otherwise greenlit for service, they denote you as QNE (Qualified Not Enlisted) and quit wasting time on you. If they dislike you, or just for the hell of it, they can prevent you from enlisting for wasting their time, at least for that branch, or possibly at that MEPS.

Get a top 5-10 list now and stick to it.

>>35071387
that info feels like it should be in the FAQ/OP which i swear it wasn't back when i first started reading /meg/ threads

>>35071595

Imo it is one of the things that most people who join never find out about because they pick the first job they are given, or they keep the info secret because they feel a responsibility to try and keep the spergs out of the military.

>>35071193
Bump, I too identify as a gay dino

>>35071387
if you join the Army, they can reserve jobs for you before you go to MEPS.

>>35071715

You're perfect for the Corps.

>>35071376
Anyone got any opinions on this one?

>>35048086
How long is a long time?

>>35071764
Longer then a short time, but not as long as forever

>>35068879

It's a long process, but pretty simple. Just be truthful on all your clearance documents and interviews, it's that easy.

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Are women even in the military? Or do they have their own little pretend military while men do all the work?

>>35072442
They do all jobs in countries like Britain and Australia where the military is just larping.

Women can serve in infantry in the USA since we also don't have any wars going on. They qualify for SOF but there are literally 0 (0) women in SOF infantry.

Granted SOF is kinda rat racey and depends on slots, so just projecting the percent of females in infantry (already very small) onto how many infantry men get accepted in sof (smaller) alone would justify no women being in there.

Smug women are the bane of my existence so I hope to one day fulfill my dream of being in the most misogynist field in the country and show off my patriarchy power levels.

>>35072442
Bump for this

>>35072478
I remember reading about the two women who had done the RASP course and not only had to have lower standards, but also needed hands-on coaching from an actual Colonel to make it.

And IIRC they still didn't.

>>35072510
Their birthing hips fuck their distance running. We should soon have some hormoned Slaaneshi horrors trying out for SOF infantry and making it in. Enjoy the glory days of estrogen free SOF infantry while it lasts.

>>35072526
"Catherine I'm hit! Pull me into cover!"
"Uhhh gee I really can't... uhhhh hey uhhh Derek can you get Sanchez here into cover? I can't lift him up, haha!"

>>35072442

The smartest and dumbest soldiers I've ever met were female.

I haven't personally had any issues with them, but like 80 % of the military I work in an office where what's between your legs doesn't really matter.

Most of the reasons people have for worrying about an integrated military are stupid. All that matters is mission effectiveness.

>>35072557
>Most of the reasons people have for worrying about an integrated military are stupid. All that matters is mission effectiveness.

Most of the problems I see people having (myself included) is that their inclusion compromises that mission effectiveness.

>>35068403
My company of 155 had 8 people not pass basic their first time, not including the handful of idiots who got chaptered out. Of those 4, 6 were recycled to another company and two were discharged. Army BCT is exceedingly easy as long as you are in decent shape, and even if you're not (I wasn't) I wouldn't call it hard.

Sitting at reception for two weeks waiting to even start basic was awful though.

>>35072557
Yeah, but how do gay dinosaurs calculate into this?

>>35072672
Of those 8* and also I have no clue about your weigh in question, I want to say I wasn't weighed at all in reception or basic but I honestly don't remember. If you are right on the line, just eat a bit less for a week or two.

>>35045666
Alright /meg/ Im leaving for basic tomorrow. Any last minute tips?

>>35072699

Sleep tonight.

>>35072699
Play the game (we know you know but it never hurts to remind)

>>35072699
Don't volunteer for anything and keep your head low.

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>>35072699
Remember the ideal recruit, Forest Gump.
He was a god damn Genius

>>35072598

It doesn't though, in the vast majority of the military that *actually exists*.

Half the arguments against females in the military are based around "muh buddy carries in combat", which is not a realistic scenario in most jobs, and frankly most of my male coworkers would struggle with that task as well.

When you strip away all of the anti-female arguments that are baseless sexism or just plain idiocy, you end up with a small number of reasons that females cause issues, none of them particularly common.

I signed a 09S contract for OCS a few weeks ago, ship out in October. I'm hoping to branch infantry (11a) and transition into the Ranger Regiment or SF once I'm O2 promotable. The reason for these career goals is that I want to do some high-speed shit, but I'm realizing I may have made a mistake in getting a 09S contract. From what I'm reading, SOF officers are almost always operational for less than two years due to career concerns. Is it possible to stay operational as an officer longer by making into a Tier 1/SMU (ranger recon or delta)? Either way, this doesn't seem very realistic and I'm starting to wish I had just done an option 40 or 18x contract a while ago. Thoughts?

>>35072983

>Thoughts?

You probably won't land infantry in the first place. When you inevitably fail on your path to doing coolguystuff and decide to grow up, you'll thank yourself for commissioning instead of enlisting. You'll still be able to have a successful upper middle class future as an officer, as opposed to the wannabe-coolguy enlisted who tend to just crash and burn.

>>35073035
Statistically you're right, but I've got a 300 APFT and had a 3.9 in college so I'd be surprised if I wasn't at the top of the OML and thus able to branch infantry. You're point about officer being a better career is well taken, however.

>>35073103
*your
Fucking phone posting

>>35073117
Listen, all enlisted gets are MREs, as an officer, you get access to prime Memes. I'm talking full blown reddit tier Roflcopters.

Do the smart thing.

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http://www.military.com/military-fitness/air-force-basic-training/air-force-pre-boot-camp-workout

This shit sounds TOO easy, any AF anons wanna tell me if it's legit a good workout?

>>35073231
>military.com
found your problem

>>35073257
I'm sure it's meant for the fatties that suddenly want to enlist

>>35073152
What does that even mean? Are you just commenting on officers receiving better food?

>>35073231
air force basic is the easiest boot camp, and boot camp isn't even hard.
Of course an exercise to "prepare" you for it would be easy.

>>35072810
1. Pregnancy
2. We dont need more men than we can easilly get; infantry spam isnt meta.

So I'm going to commission as an Army officer in 2019, but I have yet to sign off on a branch. Before signing a contract with ROTC, I was an 11B, and it was an alright job. I can't decide if I want to stay Infantry, go armor, or maybe a different field. What's the best thing I can branch as an Army officer?

>>35073611

1. Not a realistic concern with birth control.
2. That's not how recruiting works. By deepening the recruiting pool you can be more selective while getting the same total numbers, or achieve the same numbers at a lower cost.

>>35071387
My mos is competetive. Can I sign for it and wait for a slot, or do you have to wait for a slot to sign?

>>35073700
If it's open, it's open; if it's not, it's not. If it's not open, and you don't sign, they may not bring you back.

The way it works is they project an X number of an MOS for the year, month, etc. based on manning levels and projected growth and retention. Then the schools get set up with an X number of sessions, with an X number of seats. You need to be qualified, and there needs to be a seat for you; no seat no dice. Vacancies change daily, best bet is to wait until the beginning of the month or fiscal year, which is October as quotas generally reset.

>>35073640
The most fun imo would be aviation and the best for career and climbing to the higher ranks would most likely be infantry

>>35073640
Engineer or if you're smart you should shoot for Cyber or Adjutant General.

>>35073652
>1. Not a realistic concern with birth control.

He's probably referring more to getting pregnant to get out of deployments.

Is 5711 mos interesting/fun?

>>35071969
thanks