Revolver General

Anyone have a new Taurus M85? I see you can get them for $209, plus a $40 rebate. Need a carry gun
>poorfag that likes revolvers

>>35044181
heres what will happen it will break immediately if unlucky or will break after a fairly low round count compared to alternative guns. this is fine though since the average taurus buyer cant afford enough ammo to wreck the gun.
wrecked tarus happens when a real shooter buys one and attempts to use it.

>>35044169
Ruger puts fuck heavy springs in their guns. I put an 8# trigger return spring and a #12 hammer spring, did a little polishing and shimmed the hammer and it's fucking choice now. you can look up trigger job videos on youtube. Doesn't matter if it's for a gp100 or an sp101 as they have the same action.

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My new revolver, I'll let folks guess what the crap it is for a while. Paid 200 for it and it's a .38spc

>>35044228
Experience has shown me two things about Taurus revolvers, the lower end ones are really hit and miss quality wise. I've seen generic M85s take an absolute beating and never fuck up, and I've personally watched another one blow it's barrel off like a Nerf arrow. However, the big Raging series revolvers seem to have a bit more 'give a fuck' invested in them, more than likely it's because Taurus doesn't want the messy legal issues an exploding 454 Casull could cause. I have a Raging Judge Magnum I bought because I'm a retard and it's well into 1000rds of mixed 45 and 454 with one or two cylinders of .410 and shows no issues yet. To be fair it could blow up tomorrow and throw a cylinder top into my head so Ymmv.

>>35044286
Colt Police Positive with pachmayr(?) grips?

>>35044597
Got the grips right but not the gun, although it may look the part.

>>35044169
>Ruger 66-8

Anon plz. Anyway, if that 19 felt the best to you than one of the new 66's should feel damn similar, they're basically the same gun. If the GP100 is too big then 686 will also be too big. The SP101 is a slightly bigger Model 60, I doubt even the 4 inch has enough heft to moderate the recoil to your liking.

>>35044604
Spanish S&W knockoff?

>>35044645
Oops meant S&W 66-8. Thanks for the tips.

>>35044645
What about 2.75" vs 4.25" barrel for the S&W 66-8? 2.75" is closer to the ideal 3" barrel k frame everyone raves about, but longer barrels seem easier to shoot accurately. I also want my wife to have fun shooting it, and she has weak arm and grip strength so I want to avoid something too heavy...

>>35044735
3" barrels are a meme, get the 4.25"

>>35044735
If you have any desire to carry it the a 2.75 will be easier but people have carried longer barrels. The 4.25 will have less recoil and muzzle blast, though you can mitigate both of those with specials.

The accuracy is exactly the same, you just have an easier time shooting it because the sight radius is longer. Your wife will probably be the same. My 4'10" friend can fit a goddamn Redhawk in her hand and pull the trigger just fine, so grip strength shouldn't be a problem.

>>35044664
Nope, it's actually a Miroku police revolver. Built in Japan in 1961 as a police service revolver it got to the US somehow and I bought it because it's neat.

>>35044169
Please get a S&W 66 and run nothing but 125 grain .357 through it until something breaks.

If you liked the Model 19, take a look at the Ruger Security Six/Speed Six/Service Six. They are the same size as the Model 19 but are far more durable in their construction while also being less expensive.

>>35046016
the new 66-8 is supposed to have solved that with a full size forcing cone...

>>35046075
Neat.
I was previously unaware that that was how they fixed it.

>>35044169
> S&W 60 3inch Performance Center - Very accurate shooter, but too small and light. First time I felt .38 spl recoil to be slightly uncomfortable, can't imagine .357 being any fun at all.

It isn't. I have one of these. The wood grips are most of the problem. I put some bigger pachmayr grips on mine and it is better.

>>35048385
>bigger grips

Easier to shoot. Harder to conceal. The ONLY point of a small gun is concealability. If you want a sweet shooter you get a bigger gun.

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Just caved and bought a case of .38 off my last paycheck. I've been out of it for months and itching to shoot my wheelglock. I'm glad I'll have $60 in my checking to make it two weeks too, that's always a good adventure

I bought an EAA windicator not long ago, a blue .357 2 inch. Fits my hand very well, smooth operation (after you clean it). It's not a pretty gun, but it works. Trigger pull is a little stiff but not bad at all, and it handles a .357 very well

>>35048772
For sure. For minimum J-frame size but best comfort I've found the CT lg-405 laser grips have the best backstrap padding while being no longer than the end of the frame. The laser is a bonus I guess, but sure makes them expensive. I wish someone would make those same grips minus the laser.

My 60 pro series is set up for a decent but not too bulky innawoods gun. I have an OWB desantis holster for it, concealability isn't my primary concern.

>>35046016
You're so out date

>>35044169
Go with the 66 if it's what feels best. Personally i really like those 4" half underlug revolvers.

Id be a little worried about durability with full power .357 loads though. Might wanna give the security six a try from ruger, they stopped making them a ways back because they weren't profitable enough but there's still plenty out there and for relatively cheap.

>>35049225
You'd be surprised how many people will tell someone to buy some pre-lock k-frame because they are the GOAT and have no idea themselves about the issues those guns have with prolonged use of magnum loads.

>>35049758
>because they weren't profitable enough

The six-series went away because Ruger improved upon it. The GP100 is superior to any of the six series guns. It's frame is stronger and it has the third locking lug on the crane.

>>35049758
how does the ruger security six compare to the 66?

>>35050763
Compared to a pre-lock 66 the six series guns are stronger. New manufacture 66 beats 30+yr old six series gun any day though.

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Just bought a S&W 36 as first gun, what am I in for?

>>35051600
Lots of practice. Small guns are harder to master. Get some snap caps and do regular dry fire practice until you can pull the double action trigger without disturbing the sights. Don't get discouraged just keep at it.

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Who here /6+/?

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>>35051920
I used to be. Sold this thing though.

>>35044323

Well I would certainly hope a revolver could take 1000 rounds of the ammunition it is made for without exploding or losing its timing.

>>35051920

I'm looking at getting a 586 in a 7 shot after Christmas, been shooting the one my club owns and its sweet as fuck.

Gonna shell out and put a nice set of Nills grips on it too, old man replaced the shitty rubber grips on his 686 with Nills and its like gripping an orgasm.

>>35044902
I am from frogland, and here we have a lot od SA/DA revolver comp, (hell we even still uses the .32s&w Long) and one old guy got one.
it's based on a enlarged version of the "chief/detective special" with a heavy 3" barrel...
basically japan popo have tiny hands and likes their barrel heavy...
with lead wadcutter loads this gun groups 3cm @25m (1" 1/3 &28yd)

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>>35044169
Is this worth $280? I have a $100 gift card to Cabela's as well.

>>35052021
That's the thing though, Taurus QC on their low end revolvers can be seriously hit and miss so you occasionally get ones that eat shit after a few hundred rounds. The large frame stuff seems to be checked out a lot more thoroughly though.

>>35052345
so, almost adequate then, by taurus standards. i swear that company uses literal monkeys to assemble and machine its garbage.

>>35052403
Yes. Excellent for the price, though the double-action is fuck heavy compared for the $700 gun.

There's rumors of reliability problems with the timing, but I've fired hundreds of .357 with no issues so far. The finish has some wear though after only a year of use.

I'd recommend it over any Taurus.

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Can anyone help me date my new Smith & Wesson lemon squeezer .32 caliber. SN is 53103, can anyone tell me when it was made?

>>35052327
Yes, especially if it is the no lock 642. They go for about $330 online, so for $280 and no transfer fee you're still doing good on the price.

Great for pocket carry but will take lots of practice to shoot well.

>>35052327
For $280? Sure.

>>35049792
>The GP100 is superior to any of the six series guns
It looks like hammered ass, though, with the obvious exception of the MC.

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Only revolver I own is a Ruger LCRX in 38 special

Been reading The Dark Tower and I want a 6" or 7" blued revolver in 45 Colt. Thinking maybe a Ruger Redhawk. Any suggestions that aren't extremely expensive?

>>35052487
1 (800) 331-0852
this worked for me

>>35044181
I like my m85 it is an early 2000s. You will hear a lot of hate but i think there good weapons

>>35044169

>MFW There is no 8 shot, blued, 6" barrel revolver that isn't a Taurus

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>>35053235
S&W made 4- and 5-inch 8-shot 27s if you're not dead-set on such a preposterously long barrel.
Even if you are, someone who knew what they were doing could probably swap a 6.5" barrel onto it pretty easily.

>>35053137
How's Uberti?

https://www.uberti-usa.com/1873-single-action-cattleman-revolvers

>>35053354

Didn't know this was a thing

>>35044902
Cool find

>>35048973

This.

I bought a few used revolvers that came with Crimson trace grips, a j-frame and a Ruger sp101. Crimson trace grips are really perfect on those guns.

I don't even care about the laser

>>35044181
It comes with a quick detach barrel, as in it detaches itself randomly during firing sessions.

>>35044169
Quick question, best pocket carry .38/.357 ? Is there a good, affordable one, like 900 bucks max

>>35053597
>best

shut up

>>35053597
>900 bucks max
S&W 642 NIL with $500 worth of gunsmithing done to it

>>35053597
I would personally look through S&W catalog and select .38/.357 models that appeal to you. Colt also recently released a new conceal carry revolver, but it's only in .38 special.

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Just bought my first revolver.
Ruger .357 magnum
I like to spin the wheel and slap it in and hear it click. Revolvers are so comfy. It is much lighter than I thought it was going to be.

>>35054096
I hope you're trolling. Otherwise, enjoy your bent crane.

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My third revolver.
>My first was a Charter arms undercover from the 80s.
>my second was a Smith and wesson model 15 that looked like it had sat at the bottom of a river.
and now i have a smith and wesson model 19-5 that was kept in a shower and under a sink since 1985. looks pretty good, aside from nicks and where the bluing has come off. it had rust but it was all surface.

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It feels good to be a free armed American liberty loving independent patriot. Thank god we are not Eurocucks.

>>35054096
>I like to spin the wheel and slap it in and hear it click.

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Oi, I'm richfag.

I'm going to 100% engrave a revolver with religious images and have DEUS VULT in it as well as 24k gold it, which revolver should i get?

>>35054532
Colt SAA

>>35054562
Thats a bit too common. Something that is not single action please.

>>35054569

Colt Python/Anaconda

>>35054532
Korth Combat Magnum

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>>35054619
>Anaconda
I knew you would give me a good one.
I'll gold plate this. And get another one of Titanium Nitrite to carry.

So its 3650 for the gun, 2000 to engrave and 2000 to gold plate.

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>>35054532
MR73

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>>35054096
Don't ever close your cylinder by flicking it. This can bend the ejector rod and even break the locking bolt that holds the cylinder in place. That wrist-flick crap is only for the movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GspksqvtO3k

>>35054128
>>35054287
>>35054914

Sorry yall. It is my first revolver and I never knew this. I will treat it much better from now on. Thank you for the link and information.

How do I lubricate it?

>>35054682
Must be nice having money.
>t. poorfag college wheelgun enthusiast
Had to sell my 1851 Navy to pay for books.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERs7VyRMETg

>>35055053
Get a tall cup, the kind you'd normally drink tea in.
Fill it with oil. Dip gun in, then take it out. Then rub it down carefully,.

>>35055053
Revolvers don't need to be lubricated.

I want to pocket carry a small revolver in addition to my normal edc piece. Problem is I absolutely hate the look of the hammerless revolvers.

Is it truly a problem to fire a hammered revolver from pocket?

>>35055428

Fire, no. Draw, maybe. And that's the whole point. And looks shouldn't matter if you're actually concerned enough to carry daily, otherwise you're just LARPing carrying a gun based on aesthetics. Buy a 442 or shut up

>>35044169
I'd look into a 686 SSR.

I love mine, it's a 4.2" barrel L frame, but points like a K frame.

>>35052765
It's practically the exact same gun with a different barrel profile. That's it

>>35053597
Colt Cobra

>>35054532
Dan Wesson, Korth, or a Manurhin, or an abused Webley (in 455 of course) that needs some TLC.

>>35055141
Trust me ive been there. I got a Phd in medical physics from Duke. I come from brazillian slums.

>>35055472
Can you explain why its a problem to fire a hammered revolver from pocket?

And it's not larping to not want my guns to look like shit. By your logic I should buy those guns that come in pink cause they are leaps and bounds cheaper when buying them used

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>>35044169
>hillary hole
Disgusting.

>>35055660

If you're firing without drawing, the material from whatever item of clothing you're wearing that has a pocket can theoretically become snagged between the hammer and the frame.Small chance, sure, but still possible. Not enough of an issue to risk based on aesthetics alone

Or, upon drawing, the hammer might snag on something inside the pocket as you go to draw it out of the pocket, since it's an obvious protrusion, to keep you from pulling it out of your pocket

And your comparison is shitty, color is a lot different than a pointy thing that can keep you from making a shot that might save your life

>>35049792
k frames were developed for the 158 mag load, at the time they were designed and tested, the 125 stuff didnt exist yet.

>>35044181
Just get a millenium G2 if you're fine with playing the Taurus lottery. It's actually a really good gun, til it breaks. Mine has 2k rounds through it and works fine. Just don't shoot a ton of +p and clean it often.

>>35055679
I hate the term Hillary hole. It sounds so lewd.

>>35044169
>Mod 19
They feel really nice but the frames are pretty small for .357 and they are known to beat themselves to death, you're probably going to mostly shoot .38 if you buy one. If that's OK, then go for it.
>686
It's a much better, beefier frame. The 686 is the go-to general-purpose Smith these days.
>60
It's a pocket gun. Unless that's what you need don't buy it. Same deal with LCR.
>GP100
If it's too heavy track down a used Security Six. They feel like the Mod. 19 almost but are freaking bombproof even by modern standards.
>SP101
Similar design to GP100 but smaller. Definitely consider one in 3 or 4".
>66
It's basically a stainless 19. Bear in mind the same thing, limited diet of .357 or the timing will start to go.
>>35044181
I'd stick to their bigger guns. Even then keep the warranty close.
>>35044263
They're also surprisingly easy to work on. Usually you don't want to take a revolver apart ever but Rugers are doable if you're careful.
>>35051564
>New 66 beats old Sec 6
In polish maybe, but that's still EZ to fix on the Ruger and it's still bombproof. I paid $350 for mine and I've run some SKETCHY handloads out of it. Like fuck your shit, "alcohol was involved", 2 foot long muzzle flashes handloads. Still runs fine.

>>35055974
Well she's a fucking cunt who wants to gut gun rights and S&W deserved going bankrupt for their collusion with the enemy. I was happy to be part of the group that gave Jim Zumbo a severe career setback by calling for a boycott with others that prettty much destroyed his career after he called for an AWB because he was a fuddy faggot.

You help the enemies of freedom, prepare to be punished....severely.

>>35044286
That isn't a 206 is it? The finish is too shiny if it is.

If you dump a revolver in the mud, do you have to clean mud out of the cylinder in front of the bullets? Are most sealed up tight enough that nothing will get into the internal mechanism?

>>35058475
Well, it would depend on the model. And you always want to ensure there's nothing blocking the path of the bullet, that goes for any firearm.

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I just bought a s&w 586 with 4" barrel and shot about 70 rounds through it today. Love it. It's my first wheelgat. Got it for the nice price of 699 otd

>>35060056
>about 70
72, I'd assume.

>>35061045
I leave one empty like big daddy Hickok told me to

>>35058475
>Are most sealed up tight enough that nothing will get into the internal mechanism?

The ingress points for mud on a revolver are few in number and not very large. Assuming that the cylinder is closed, there is only the hole for the firing pin and MAYBE the bottom sides of the trigger and sides of the cylinder stop. I honestly want to see a credible revolver mud test done at some point, because I strongly suspect that it would produce a similar result to the Inrange Luger mud test (ie tactifags btfo).

>>35060056
I hope you realize what you've done anon. It won't end at one.

>>35061357
That's only for guns without safety features like SAAs and clones. Your 586 has a transfer bar safety so load 6...unless you're an autistic reloader like me. 5 rounds is one row in a 50rd box....I have a problem.

>>35061368
This is the only one I could find, not enough mud to definitely prove anything but it still triggered Glock fags

youtube.com/watch?v=HVtebavUTJk

>>35061593
>no but anywhere near the hammer
k

>>35061839
no mud*

>>35061368
A revolver should be basically mudproof, except for the hammer being retarded by gunk or the barrel being obstructed.

>>35061505
I prefer to keep my ammo rows near in case I don't shoot the whole box. So yes autistic

>>35062064
Neat**

>>35044169
EAA windicator in .357 with a 4" barrel. Interested since im a jew/poorfag that wants a .357 wheelgun.

>>35062312
I'd trust a fucking Taurus 605 over an EAA Windicator.

>>35048953
was looking at a 4 inch 357. would really like a nicer revolver but im a poorfag. have you had any major mishaps with it?

>>35062333
why's that?

>>35062312
Poor people can't afford cheap shit. Save your monies anon. You can find a used blued GP100 or one of the six series Rugers for $4-450 or less easily.

Like this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691372447

Or this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691279413

>>35044169
i have a 686 plus with a 4 inch barrel... its fun.. kinda wanna get rid of it tho

>>35062397
I guess that's true. desu i've never given gunbroker much though.

>>35062386
Taurus revolvers are nowhere near as horrible as their autos. They aren't Ruger or S&W by any means, but I would unironically take a Taurus over a Charter Arms, Windicator, H&R, Iver Johnson, or any of the other Saturday Night Special-tier manufacturers.

>>35062360
If you are a poorfag, you should just buy a used Model 10. You can get one that's in great mechanical shape for less than $300 shipped during sales, and they are far better revolvers than anything new you can buy for that price point.

>>35062424
Gunbroker is the shit. Decide what you want and bookmark a custom search and start checking it daily. There are some deals to be had for sure. Research your local area for the cheapest FFL transfer before you start bidding on shit. My only other advice would be to never buy a used revolver if it's sold AS-IS. Some people like to gamble but I'm not one of them.

>>35062481
thanks anon. atm most of the shit im looking at is out of my price range but i'll keep checking for that diamond in the rough.

>>35062497
Just keep saving anon. Better to wait a few months and get something quality that will last a lifetime than to buy some shit-tier gun today.

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What is the cheapest way to larp as a cowboy besides black powder and a heritage rough riders?

>>35062543
Eat beans, stop brushing your teeth, drink dirty water and get dysentery?

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>>35062543
>1980s ford pickup
>coal burner
>rebel flag
>dip
>work boots
>mustache
>.45acp
>big fishing hook on bass pro hat
>suck cock for free

>>35062552
>>35062565
I was thinking what would be the next step up from BP and heritage, but that works too I guess. Plus a 7.3 diesel would be nice.

>>35062565
Don't disparage cowboys but throwing them in the same lot as low rent southerners

>>35062687
>7.3 diesel would be nice.
Yes, they are nice.

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>>35063005
my bad. I don't have much experience with real cowboys (living in Arizona) but I do see the occasional try-hard faggot living in the Phoenix who acts like he's from Texas or some shit

>>35061839
>>35061846
Shrouded hammer is better for a defensive gun anyways, who cares.

outdoorlife.com/blogs/game-changers/how-pick-right-sidearm-backup-bear-protection

Is this guy right? Sure more bullets are in many ways better, but isn't the problem with something like 9mm that it won't penetrate to vital organs?

>>35063714
The owner of Buffalo Bore disagrees with that guy.

>https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=62

Scroll down to question 9.

>>35064198
Good read, thanks. Didn't know Buffalo Bore was so based.

>>35064198
Neat.

>>35066635
>that guy that wear basketball shorts to the gym

>>35066738
fuck I meant range

>>35054096
Fags like this are why I'm paranoid about buying a used revolver.

>>35066826
It's no problem as long as you can inspect it before money changes hands.

http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/

>>35066744
I do it all the time however in the gunshine state someone could wear basketball shorts and flip flops to a funeral and it wouldn't be frowned upon.

>>35063028
Texfag here, we have plenty of the same, plus an abundance of "cowboys" who have no idea what a farrier is or how to saddle up. The same kind of fags that dress up for BillyBob's

>>35062312
>>35062333
I've got an EAA Windicator. It's a fine revolver, no issues with it at all. The price comes from the cheap finishing. It's not a pretty revolver at all.

>>35044902
How much was it?

Anyone have any experience with Alfa Proj revolvers? I'm not looking for an amazing wheelgun, just a fun addition to the collection that's affordable and new.

>>35066744
>not wanting to be comfy at the range
>caring what other people think of your clothes

can someone recommend me a SAA clone?
looking for something in .45 that's less than 400

>>35063028
Fellow AZfag here. We actually do have a cowboy as fuck state, people just associate Texas with that stuff more because Texans have stronk PR and all wear cowboy hats. Tombstone is here, so OK Corral shootout. Plus a bunch of Indian Wars stuff and assorted cowboy things.

Doesn't make it any less cringy when a dude who's lived in a city all his life dresses like a ranch hand.

>>35067305
Ubertis are nice. For under 400 you need to find used or you will be buying garbage.

>>35062543
Seriously though, what options are there for single action guns that aren't black powder or made out of mystery metal.

Is there any middle ground between the Heritage and single six? I'd like a .22 revolver, but I don't care for mystery metal or $400 .22's.

What about large bore wise, whats a decent single action .357 that isn't $500-$600? Uberti cattleman decent?

>>35068183
Ruger single six for .22. Uberti's are decent.

>>35068183
>mystery metal
They list the metals on their site, the guns still work fine and that's part of the reason they're so cheap.

>>35068345
My concern is the long term durability.

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Did someone say revolver bread? Contributing with a Ruger Security Six .357 magnum made in 1986 that I recently acquired. Have put 250 rounds of .357 magnum through it and could not be happier. Previous owner did an incredible trigger job on it so it's smooth as butter. Currently keep Buffalo Bore high velocity 125gr JHP in her. Ask me anything....

>>35068527
Where did you buy it and for how much? What is a fair price for a good condition security six? I can get a new production s&w 66-8 for about $700, so I am hoping I can get a security six for much cheaper to be worth it as a used purchase.

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>>35068574
I got it in a trade for a metro arms 1911, but usually they go for $400-$600 depending on condition so it depends on condition. Definitely worth it though since they are tough as hell. Check armslist or gunbroker for prices or local availability.

>>35068634
Seems like blued go for $400-480 and stainless steel go for $600+. Is stainless worth the premium?

I also read that Ruger ran out of spare parts for repairs. I assume this isn't much of a problem since they were built to be durable?

>>35068376
.22 is low pressure and has a super small powder charge to boot. Normally you'd be justified in being careful like that, but with .22 you're fine with cheap shit.

>>35068796
That would be up to you honestly. There are perks to stainless like rust prevention and ability to polish out scratches, but honestly it's personal preference since you can mitigate both with care. As for the spare parts I'm not sure, you could call Ruger and ask. They care very much about customer service, great company. Honestly though, if you're going to put down $600 you might as well get a brand new GP100. It might be a better deal being new and everything. Probably would only need $100 more to go that route. If my Security six shits the bed my next revolver would be a GP100 in stainless.

>>35051600
the best handgun ever made privided you put in the hours.

>>35068562
>>35068634
I've heard theyre beefier than the gp100/sp101s
ive debated trading in some things to get one but I'm not sure since theres conflicting information that the gp100s are the same thing just more beefier than the security six.

I know one range has over 100,000 rounds shot through one, or more with zero issues

whats the truth?

>>35069372
>beefier than the gp100
You've got that backwards. The GP100 has a stronger frame and the third lock point on the crane. It is superior to the six series guns performance-wise. Some argue about the aesthetics but IDGAF about that. Unless you get a real bargain on a six series gun the GP100 will be a better purchase than a 30+yr old six series gun any day of the week.

>>35053597
They aren't really pocket carry like people suggest. .38 revolvers are as long and tall as a G26 with a bit more thinness.

>>35068562
>>35068634
How do you like that grip? It looks larger than grips on the normal version. Is that the bicentennial edition?

>>35044169

If you have a ton of cash to drop on a revolver, get a chiappa, you'll be in love

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>>35069766

WHO SUMMONS ME?

>Marketing gimmick barrel alignment places explosion .5" of aluminum away from your trigger finger.

Just the tip.

>>35069372
Both are extremely durable and are unlikely to wear out unless you are a competition shooter using the gun with a magnum-only schedule. For reference, the Border Patrol did Magnum-only durability testing back in the 80s on American duty revolvers. They found that none of the Smith and Wesson Model 66s they tested could make it to even 1500 rounds before having to be sent back to the factory for a rebuild, while all but one of the Ruger Sixes they tested got to 10k rounds without anything breaking or needing to be replaced. They actually continued the tests up to 16k rounds per gun before calling them off and adopting the Six series.

If the GP100 is even tougher, good on it. Of course, the GP100 is also larger, ~8 oz. heavier, and has a point of balance that's much further forward.

>>35069795
The cylinder gap is a stupid design flaw with something like that, but the 6 o'clock barrel is legitimately effective. More manufacturers need blast shields there, it's not rocket science.

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>>35070105
My issue isn't with the cylinder gap , but what happens if you win the kaboom lottery. Guaranteed damage to shooting hand. Yeah it might be rare, but it's not the odds....it's the stakes. Especially when the Rhino won't do anything a more conventional steel framed gun can do.

The 6 o'clock barrel is a gimmick to get some market share in a very mature market. It worked. The meme-lords fucking love it.

>>35070161
Your hands aren't anywhere near the barrel of any revolver, the Rhino included. Literally no difference. The shoddy Chiappa QC makes a boom more likely than with a Ruger or S&W, so I wouldn't want one.
>gimmick
Again, it is a valuable addition, not a gimmick.

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why are most .38 Special only revolvers these days snubs

.38 out of a 4" medium frame is good shit

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>>35070867
Yeah there's a difference. On a conventional revolver the firing chamber/barrel is farther away from your firing hand than it is with a 6 o'clock arrangement. The explosive force will take the path of least resistance. On a conventional revolver that is upwards away from your hand. On the Rhino that is downwards towards your hand.

>>35070867
>Again, it is a valuable addition, not a gimmick.

Valuable how? Does it increase the range or energy of a fired round? Please say reduction in felt recoil because you're a fucking manlet if you think .357 is severe.

Chiappa was looking for a way to distinguish itself in the marketplace so they could carve out a niche and sell some product. Modern revolvers look the way they do because it is the most efficient form for the intended function. Same reason everyone's semi-autos are becoming Glocks. it's the life-cycle of any mature product. Rhino looks like it does to be different and get the money of meme-lords who don't know any better.

>>35070910
Is there a disadvantage to just getting a 357 & using 38s as opposed to a gun specifically chambered in 38?

>>35071022
An identical gun specifically chambered for .38 will usually be cheaper than a .357. Like the LCR is much cheaper in .38 than .357. S&W model 10 is way cheaper than a Model 19.

>>35070970
Good QC makes that irrelevant, unless you're a retarded with a reloading stand.

>>35071017
>what is muzzle flip
Confirmed noguns

>>35071144
I got you. Lightning only strikes other people. If you think no one has ever had a kaboom with factory ammo you're a moron.

>New gun and factory ammo
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/4y8nm0/chiappa_200ds_explodes/

Like I said above it's not the odds, it's the stakes. Feel free to gamble your trigger finger on a meme. I'll stick to more conventional revolvers.

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>>35071144
>muzzle flip

>flip

>>35071179
Nice reading comprehension, I see you missed where I said good QC, not shitty Chiappa QC.
>b-but look at this one Ruger that blew u-
Wow I guess I won't prefer better designs because something that'll never happen could be slightly worse

>>35071191
>I don't have an argument so I'll repeat your post

>>35071216
>better design
It's not better. It's shit designed to trigger the wallet-opening autism of meme-lords.

>Slightly worse
Yeah he just lost the tip of his trigger finger anon. That'll buff right out.

You seem awful butthurt just because I don't like the Rhino. I'm sorry so much of your self-esteem is tied up in owning a meme gun.

>>35067305
EAA bounty hunter

>>35071022
If you ever decide to shoot .357 there'll be a ring of gunk at the front of the cylinder that'll make it difficult to get the longer cases in and out.

>>35071447
Only if you fail at cleaning your chambers.

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>>35071462
>cleaning guns
>ever

>>35044169
>buying the hillary hole

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If OP is still here considerin', my 66 has stood up to over a year of abuse so far. Still want to close her hole someday though.

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>>35071265
>he just lost the tip of his trigger finger
As I just said, a good quality and strong revolver, like a Ruger, is incredibly unlikely to ever blow up on someone. I've seen several Rhinos blow up and they've only been out a few years. Regardless of how bad the situation is, only autists worry about it when buying any quality firearm (NOT a Chiappa). You should really read posts before commenting on them.
>just because I don't like the Rhino
I don't like the Rhino, I just think the barrel position is advantageous and you're spouting a lot of bullshit.

>>35071713
this can't be real.

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>>35072982
https://www.slip2000.com/blog/s-w-a-t-magazine-filthy-14/

>>35072348
op still here. based on advice in this thread im going to look seriously for a ruger security six first. if i cant find one i like for a good price ill go for the 4.25" s&w 66-8

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Colt brand Colt Official Police in .38 Special. Very accurate, smooth shooting, and +P rated. It was designed to handle the .38/44 Remington.

>>35072348
Even with the hole, that's a very pretty gun.

I've been thinking about getting one of these, so it's good to see the current production ones are still working well for people. Thanks for sharing, anon.

>>35071713
>>35073230
>B..Bu...but my vatnik AK comrades told me that AR jams after 1 bullet and AK can shoot with mud inside??/

Any good innawoods loads for .38 Special if it was all I had for a sidearm?

>>35074994
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=291

>>35075120
Holy shit, that looks spicy.

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My first revolver, got it not too long ago. Shows no signs of ever being cowboy'd from what I can see.
What do you think, lads?

>show friend revolver
>unload it and hand it to him
>he spins the cylinder and whips it shut
The horror...the horror

>>35052327
Hell yea, that's a $400 revolver and they're actually pretty great shooters too. Good for pocket carry.

>>35052500
>$330
Maybe on GunBroker if you're lucky, but they go for about $400 online and after shipping and FFL transfers you're looking at about $420 gun. With taxes more like $450.

>>35053597
S&W Airweight 642-1/442-1 is easily the best. They are both 5 shot .38 Special +P shrouded hammered so no snags, rubber grips that fit snugly in the hand, natural pointers, and are 15 Oz unloaded. The 642-1 has a stainless barrel and cylinder with clearcoated frame while the 442-1 has a carbon steel barrel and cylinder with a melonited frame, basically you're choosing either silver or black because both styles are very durable if you read around enough. S&W also has great customer service.

Ruger's LCR grips are so sticky they actually grab pocket material which I didn't appreciate but it was also a very good gun. I would trust a Taurus product about as far as I could throw one with my foot. I hear Colt is rereleasing its Cobra so that might be worth researching. As for .357 Magnums I think the increased blast flash and recoil making follow up shots more difficult is not worth the increased power out of a 2" snubbie. You can make your own opinion though. Just make sure whatever you get that you take care of it and get a good pocket holster! Mika's pocket holsters are amazing. He's an ex-cop that started making pocket holsters in the 80s intended for off duty cops but sells to the general public. He will literally call you about your order after you've ordered it, I made an order on a Sunday night and my phone was ringing less than 60 seconds later. He's a good guy and has been adored for his holster craftsmanship for decades, but there's a waiting time of about 9 weeks. Otherwise pick up a DeSantis or if you're really on a budget Uncle Mike's.

>>35076985
>15 oz
Unless he's an experienced shooter that'd be a bad time.

>>35044169
>S&W 19 4inch - This was my favorite in terms of size, weight, balance, and accuracy. It fit in my hand very well

You found your revolver then. Very nice Anon. You actually did what you should, tried out the guns and found one that felt good and worked well for you.

>>35077072
It's surprisingly comfortable to shoot and easier to shoot well given its weight. I seriously recommend going out to a range and renting one first though, although I recommend that for any gun you plan on using.

>>35076824
I think your camera sucks.

>>35076849
Literally happened to me. I almost started to cry.

>>35076824
cant make out details but looks nice. you can probably polish the surface and clean up the scuff marks. how can you tell it was cowboy'd? what signs does one look for?

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Guys which of these do i buy

A. K38 ppc

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>>35078296
Or

B. Model 10-6 ppc

>>35078317
get both

>>35076824
I think I'm jealous, anon. Looks like a great compromise revolver to fill a lot of roles. You gonna carry?

>>35078317
>>35078296
Or just wait for a 357 ppc to show up?

.38 is really the only reason i hesitate

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>>35044169
Should I (rather, my father) get this as my first revolver?

Shot one at the range, loved it to death. Only gun I liked better was a S&W 586 Classic and that is way out of price range. It'll be used for plinking and innawoods shit.

>>35079245
What is your budget that allows for a SP101 Match Champion (MSRP $859) but precludes a S&W 586 (MSRP $839)?

>>35079306
He likely doesnt know he posted a MC gun and only wants the SP101

>>35079306
>>35079368
MC at LGS for $525 cheapest 586 I've found was $620

>>35079405
Shooting may not be the right hobby for you if a difference of $95 is enough to put something "way out of your price range".
I'd save up a little more and get the 586 that you liked more; you'll still be enjoying it long after you've forgotten what you paid for it.

>>35079405
I have to agree with >>35079541 here. 100usd is nothing if you're getting a gun you plan on keeping for any length of time.

>>35079541
>>35079566
I was mistaken, cheapest online (according to slickguns) is actually $690 + shipping + transfer fee + tax. I'm not the one paying for this since I'm not 21, so keep that in mind.

I already have plenty of guns, including some chambered in obscure or expensive calibres such as .300 WinMag and .375 H&H. My dad wants to gift me a revolver since we ended up shooting one together, and it's his money - not mine.

>>35079651
The SP101MC is a fine gun that your grandkids will enjoy shooting.
You can always buy the 586 later if you don't feel confident trying to talk your dad into buying it instead.

>>35069372
See >>35069426
>>35069660
It came with these pachymeyer grips on them. I love them though, great for recoil.
>>35069927
Awesome, didn't know they did that. Makes me love this revolver more.
>>35073552
Sounds good, you've made a good choice but good luck finding one.
>>35076824
Very nice!
>>35076849
Kill it with fire.

/k/ how would you rate this deal?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/690221782

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>>35081319
my face readind that...

>>35082579
I think the worst part is the cylinder being full, as if she's gonna need six shots to pop some bitch's skull like JFK's

>>35076985
thank you for the great response

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God I love revolvers

>>35083711
How do you like the match champion? I've wanted one for a while now.

>>35082534
Depends on what the final sales price including shipping and FFL transfer fee is. Something around 450 total or less is pretty good assuming the gun is in good mechanical condition.

>>35083731
Different guy, but it's probably the best value out there for a new revolver. The GP100 is probably the strongest non-bespoke DA revolver in current production, and the Match Champion version gets you some nice options at a great price.

>>35084607
>strongest DA revolver
>what are the Redhawk and Super Redhawk

>>35084718
The Super Redhawk is just a scaled-up GP100, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Does Glock make a revolver?

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>>35084882
Any Glock equipped with the NY2 trigger spring is basically a revolver.
Not necessarily a good revolver, but if you want to carry a plastic service auto without having to leave your 12 pound DA comfort zone, it's probably your best bet.

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Someone tell me why I shouldn't buy a smith and Wesson 627 snub.
I want a carry piece for owb.
8 shots of 357 sounds like a good number.
And I don't have a revolver in my collection yet.

>>35087133
357 out of a snub isnt better than 9mm

>>35087133
Two J-frames would be about the same weight and bulk on your waistline and give you two more rounds and some redundancy in case one of them had a malfunction.
Of the two you posted, I'd give the edge to the 627; its full-length ejector rod, slightly longer barrel, and factory Eagle boot grips make it a no-compromise choice for someone who wants to conceal a full-size wheelgun.
Even with its steel frame and unfluted cylinder, it still only weighs about as much as a 3" 686, so it's not unreasonably heavy, either.

>>35087291
This kind of kills it for me

>>35087365
You need about 4 inches for 357 to really shine

>>35087291
Not according to Ballistics By the Inch, but that's because they use pistol barrels (integral chamber) as opposed to revolver barrels. A 2.5 inch .357 revolver will surpass a 4 inch 9mm pistol, though the differences are academic.

That said, 8 shots of 9mm isn't exactly unarmed.

>>35087447
It's not exactly unarmed, but even the 327, with its scandium frame and largely hypothetical barrel, still weighs almost as much as a Glock 33, which would be easier to conceal and provide the option of carrying a 15-round G31 mag as a spare.

>>35087526
Just carry a 29

>>35054284
Beautiful, man

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>>35087767
69's a better option; lighter and I can't imagine needing more than 5 rounds of .44 Mag to solve a problem.

>>35088447
What if you have to solve MULTIPLE problems

>>35087133
You'd have to make such a deliberate effort to dress around the N-frame that you might as well get a 4" barrel, too.
Ns are much bigger in person than they look in pictures.

>>35089065
>Ns are much bigger in person than they look in pictures.

thats what she said

>>35088458
The muzzle flash will roast their testicles, precluding them from reproduction.

Is .44 magnum obsolete? More powerful rounds are preferred for hunting or protection in the wild, and anything larger than .357 is pointless for humans.

>>35090499
Absolutely not, S&W has two L-frames in the damn thing and they seem to be fairly popular. Regardless, it is the second most popular magnum round and, assuming you're using full power loads, will take anything inside of 100 yards without holdover. Other cartridges offer nothing outside of range which is superfluous for handgun hunting, but can also be achieved with .44 magnum in guns that can take overpressure charges such as the Redhawk or Freedom Arms 83.

You can use hot specials/weak magnums for close range, but using a magnum in place of a rifle for longer human engagements isn't unheard of.

>>35053908
>buying guns that don't have hammers
disgusting

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>>35044169
severe lack of Dan Wesson love here

>>35090589
>offer nothing outside of range
And a major increase in power.

>>35090499
The next practical steps up from it are hot .45 Colt, which has limited gun/ammo selection, and .454 Casull, which is above most people's recoil tolerance.
Frankly, anything that can't be done with a .44 Mag probably shouldn't be done with a handgun at all.

>>35090749
>which is above most people's recoil tolerance
That's why .480 Ruger was invented though.

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>>35051920
ey baybay

>>35090792
>chambered in approximately one gun
>no factory ammo for less than $1pr
Nope.

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Only one to rule them all

>>35090902
It's barely more expensive than .454 Casull, with much more manageable recoil, a better option for most people. Also Ruger makes the best hand cannons so who cares.

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>>35090682
>And a major increase in power.
To what end?
.44 Mag will already comfortably handle anything in the Western Hemisphere and a lot of things on the Dark Continent.
If you really want to hunt elephants and hippos and shit with a handgun, that's fine, but that's a niche use that doesn't make .44 Mag obsolete any more than .338 Lapua Mag makes 5.56 NATO obsolete.

>>35091326
It is the bare minimum against bears.

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>>35091351
The "bear minimum", you might say.

PS
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=62#9

>>35091494
did barry from moss pawn make a .44 cut shell?

Most of the pressure is conatained in the cylinder right? Why arent breakopen/strapless revolvers still made? I understand frame stretching could be an issue and the locking latch would be a weak point but theres plenty of low pressure ammo you could chamber them in. Is the demand just not there?

I have a super redhawk in 44mag, I would like a gp101 or sp100 to go with it.

44mag full house loads in that gun are a beating. fun, but dont expect to take a couple boxes with you to the range.

>>35090682
>Major increase in power
Again, that only grants you range. A .44 magnum can and has taken everything including Big 5, and AGAIN, this range disparity greatly decreases if you use overpressure loads that would break a S&W.

A .30-06 can take Elk, no one questions it for deer. That doesn't stop a .375 H&H from stomping all over it, but at a certain point dead is dead. If you want more power, have at you, I'm just saying it's unnecessary.

>>35092147
>you only need a .22 short to hunt anything, .460 S&W just gives you range
Literally what you just said you believe. You're a fucking retard, bigger holes are better, and so are deeper ones. Or do you really think .44 magnum penetrates as well as .460?
>it's unnecessary
It's unnecessary to get mauled by a bear, yet idiots like you are asking for it.
>look at these two rifle cartridges, they both do the job, works the same with revolver cartridges!
There's a minimum power required to kill animals, .30-06 is well within these limits, while .44 skirts the line.

>>35092493
Finally, someone talking sense.
.44 Mag is such a marginal cartridge, a piddly little nothing round.
Imagine living in the 60s and thinking that a 250gr bullet at 1500 fps was adequate for anything bigger than SE US deerlets and other small-medium game.
It's only common sense that a 340gr hardcast bullet will bounce off a griz's skull and just make him madder.
People who go off into the woods planning on shooting animals with anything less than a .500 Mag are asking for it harder than a white girl wearing a bikini in Malmo.

>>35090499
I liked 357mag for a while (Match Champion GP100) but I reload and 44 mag was more versatile and allowed some more comfort when backpacking in the north/northwest US. The cartridge (44mag) has been used to take everything on this continent even when it was far less powerful than modern powders allow us to get to.

Not to mention that it can be had in revolvers half the weight of a 454casull and 1/3 the weight of a 500/460mag.

>>35092603
Not an argument, no matter how sarcastic you make it.

>>35044228
bullshit, had a model 66 and shot nothing but .357 magnum out of it. These were some warm loads too. The fit and finish was no smith, but it went pow every time and was accurate. Again it was not a high quality gun but it still shot .357 mag as well as any rugar or smith. If you want a cheap wheel gun a taurus is not a bad buy. Or you can meet in the middle price/quality wise and get a GP100. Only issue is the smith and taurus are 7shots where the rugar is 6. They make a 7shot version but it is rare and pretty expensive at that point.

>>35092493
>Or do you really think .44 magnum penetrates as well as .460?
You can't pierce more than all the way through.

>It's unnecessary to get mauled by a bear, yet idiots like you are asking for it.
Buffalo Bore will be happy to inform you that someone killed a charging grizzly with their 9mm ammunition, complete with photographs.

>There's a minimum power required to kill animals
Which the .44 Magnum well exceeds, as 70 years of documented use on game of all types has shown. To be fair, all NA game had already been taken with the .357 Magnum previously, the .44 just allowed...more range, as I said before.

>>35093881
>You can't pierce more than all the way through
There aren't many rounds that can make it through eight feet of grizzly, and I'm not sure there are any in a revolver.
>someone killed a charging grizzly with their 9mm
And you can kill an elephant with a .22, NOT AN ARGUMENT mate.
>as 70 years of documented use on game of all types has shown
>some madman decides to hunt grizzly with a .22, gets a few kills because pro eye shots
>therefore it will reliably stop a charging bear

>more range
holy shit you're so retarded you said it again, I'm not even sure you know what that means. I suppose you use 12 gauge slugs to hunt game from 500 yards, it's a bigger bullet so that gives it more range right?

So I have a Smith & Wesson 686, I really like it but I have manlet hands and the grips are a bit chunky for me.

Any recommendations for some nice grips? I'm indifferent towards wood or rubber etc.

I heard Houge is not that great but I have never tried them honestly.

>>35092493
>i dont understand bear defense the post
Even people who guide bear hunts know that a marginal caliber that you can fire accurately and repeatedly is more important than maximum per shot power.

Stopping a charging bear reliably is a matter of shooting it tell you hit the CNS or it decides to fuck off, same as with people.

>>35094339
>There aren't many rounds that can make it through eight feet of grizzly, and I'm not sure there are any in a revolver.
Then I suggest avoiding defensive Texas Heart Shots.
>And you can kill an elephant with a .22, NOT AN ARGUMENT mate.
You're talking about staged stunts or inside the beltway poaching. A 9mm sufficed in a true blue defensive bear encounter, a .44 would logically be at least as effective.

>I suppose you use 12 gauge slugs to hunt game from 500 yards, it's a bigger bullet so that gives it more range right?
Again, you are comparing two things that are not equal. A .44 will kill father than a .357, all other variables being equal.

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>>35094434
Consider some old-school service grips.

>>35090664
How do they compare to ruger's in terms of sturdiness? I'm interested in one but I've read varying reports ranging from "indestructible by human hands" to "the exact same as s&w".

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>>35090814
>fluteless cylinder

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>>35097050
Not Ruger stronk imo. Doesn't have the forcing cone issues of the pre-lock K-frame smiths though and some argue that their lockup is stronger than S&W because the lock is on the crane giving it fore and aft contact the smith lacks.

Bottom line it's a good gun comparable to a Smith. Most people will never get to the high round counts with full house loads where the Ruger would pull ahead in durability. Buy what you like anon.

how is the chiappa rhino?

>>35102183
It's a gimmicky meme gun marketed to memelords who want attention.

>>35102183
Legendary Italian craftsmanship combined with a 6-o'clock bore and aluminum frame make for a bad time if you have a kaboom.

>>35102240
>>35102244
>the bait continues

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>>35082534
I won this for $355 on Gunbroker, +3% credit card fee. Shipping is $25, FFL transfer is $20. Total out of pocket cost is $410.65. How did I do?

>>35044263
I went 9# hammer and 8#trigger from the Wolf Spring kit, stoned polished and shinmed, i dont have any misfire problems, but i also hand load and use soft (Federal) primers.

>>35079245
The SP101 Match Champion is so fucking aesthetic.

>>35103524
>Ruger
>aesthetic

does not compute

>>35103074
Smoking deal. I've owned that gun for about 35 years and it's my favorite. I think I paid something like $225.00 in 1980 dollars.

>>35090651
Pocket hammerless is best revolver style

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>>35103570
You were saying?

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>>35096752
Underrated.

>>35048874
just buy 20 pounds of rice and a giant thing of beans, ride your bicycle everywhere instead of driving if you can help it
cheap city here we come

>>35069766
How hard are they to clean and maintain?

>>35069795
>>35070161

holy shit give me your story anon

>>35103290
I use CCI and was getting light strikes until I went to the 12# spring.

>>35105710
>holy shit give me your story anon

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/4y8nm0/chiappa_200ds_explodes/

>>35106985
I mean I understand the benefits of the low bore, but this just feels like an unnecessary complication that's only going to result in a huge gun with a tiny barrel that's useless for everything

>>35107652
I don't think they sold many anon. But never underestimate the amount of people who will buy essentially useless shit just because it looks different. People who buy judge/governor type guns and chiappa rhinos don't care if they are the more practical firearms for a given application.

>>35106985
This pistol but bullpup pls

>>35107652
> a huge gun with a tiny barrel that's useless for everything
Sounds like something my ex wife would say.

>>35103927
That's a thick cylinder

>>35044263
I love Ruger, but their 357s are ugly AF. A 3" 686 ? why is that even made? 4" for car or trail. 6" for fun

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>>35107958
>this pistol but with the cylinder gap right next to your arm

>>35110741
yeah no big deal

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>>35110741

>>35110873
did this man break his wrist shooting his oversized pistol or did he really try to grab it like an idiot and burned/blasted himself with the cylinder gap moe

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>>35110897

>>35111059
what an absolute genius

>>35060056
A 586 was my first revolver as well. I'm still very much in love with it.

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SW model 60 pro series

Rated for 357s but I don't recommend consecutive use. I use it with 38's and 1 magnum as the last round in the cylinder. I am damn fond of this revolver.

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>>35111221

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>>35111230
Next to it's big brother, the 686

>>35111221
You should load the magnum into a random chamber so you aren't expecting it, so that you can acclimate yourself to the recoil and eventually reach a point where shooting nothing but magnums isn't a problem.

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>>35110741
An easily fixed problem, hell Rossi just slapped a little piece of metal on the cylinder and that did the job well enough.

>>35111332
Not the anon you were responding to, but I do this all the time. I also sometimes leave one or two random chambers empty, so I can see if I am flinching.

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>>35111221
Heyoooo.
So I shot one of the 180gr 357s last range trip. Not gonna lie, it hurt. But 1300fps/675 ft lbs out of this little gun is no joke.

>>35111221
I don't have a problem controlling my recoil. I just prefer not to beat the shit out of my hands by shooting hot ass loads through a j-frame.

The only reason I throw a magnum in there is that if I have already shot 4 rounds at you, it obviously hasn't been effective. May as well make the last round a doozy.

>>35112003
Was meant for this post
>>35111332

>>35111638
Your grips probably make the 357 slightly easier than the wood

>>35112003
pussy

>>35112042
Virgin

>>35112335
Being a virgin is good.

>>35103927
>Read Instruction Manual
>Sturm Ruger .Co
>Southport Conn. USA

>>35112030
They do. I put the wood grips on again at one point since these are ugly. After one range trip it was back to the rubber grips.