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So /k/, I'm hesitating between a USP 45 full size (non tactical)

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So /k/, I'm hesitating between a USP 45 full size (non tactical) and a CZ75 SP01, convince me
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>>35041047
I'm carrying a full sized USP45 right now, and I have carried a CZ.
>AMA
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>>35041047
I've owned a P-01 and a USP9c. I'd choose the USP any day. Not exactly the same as your situation but similar.
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>>35041047
Get a Glock.

The CZ 75 SP-01 is way too big and heavy to carry. You will only use it at the range. The USP45 is light enough to carry, but very large and will probably be too big for your hands (despite your confidence that you are "tall enough for it"), resulting in you not being able to shoot it well. Neither is very practical.

A Glock (literally any of them) will be light enough to carry, but not so light that recoil is an issue at the range. The triggers on the Gen 4's are pretty consistent, and the guns are reliable, durable, and just hard to do anything wrong to.
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>>35041047
USP are pretty dope, are you looking for a carry piece, because full size USP are pretty big.
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I bought a CZ 75 Sp-01 shadow last week. I own 2 glocks, a USP 45 and a beretta 92fs. Of all the pistols i own, im in fking love with the sp-01. Yes, its a heavy pistol. But the grip, look and feel of the thing is amazing. Trigger is crisp as fuck. Accuracy is great. You'll fall in love with it. And if you do, you wont mind carrying it, even though its heavy.
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>>35041047
Don't be a bitch, carry the 45
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>>35041128
>Trigger is crisp as fuck.
Either you don't own one, or you lack the power of observation.
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>>35041153
You've fired an SP-01 Shadow?
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Give me a quick rundown on the Mark 23 vs USP 45 vs HK45 (not sure if this one is just another way of referring to the usp45)
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>>35041102
Jesus fucking Christ, you people never stop.
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>>35041241
Mk.23 ~$1,800
Long as a deagle, different controls, same width as USP
USP ~$800
Good shit
HK45 $1,000
It's alright
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>>35041193
Is it really that much different from the normal SP-01?
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>>35041241
The USP was one of the first guns designed around (not upscale to,) the 40 S&W. That being said, the 45 is significantly more common and popular, so there's that. The HK45 is the next step in the evolution of the HK 45 line and is more ergonomic for a lack of better words. All feature dual recoil springs, which means the 45's felt recoil is significantly reduced. The Mark 23 is kind of the progenitor of them all, is big as fuck, heavy as fuck, and also awesome as fuck. If you get the Mark 23, you can skip all the others but not vice versa. That's just my opinion, though.

Sorry if this is rambling, I'm on my lunch break on three hours of sleep.
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>>35041047
USP if you're an operator brand operator who needs a gun that will function 1000000000% of the time regardless of circumstance.

SP01 for everything else.

Except carry, go with a p07, p01, or pcr for that
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>>35041152
That is an exceptionally shitty photo
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>35041102
>get a glock
Not even going to give a (You)
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>unironically putting a CZ on the same footing as a USP

Sure is reddit around here.
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>>35041531
The best part is how impractical both are for carry.
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>>35041464
>implying I can't read post numbers.
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CZ75 SP01 if you want a 9mm USP.

t. USP Tactical .45/MARK 23 Owner
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>>35041047
The CZs have meh tier fit and finish. But the SP01 are still fine guns.

USP are pretty god tier,I was skeptical at first but once I start using my expert it was pretty clear to me that the USP series are a excellent platform.

The grip on the sp01 are much better than the USP. I would go with the USP but then again I am biased
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>>35041047
Well if you ask me, you get USPs in .45 and CZs in 9mm. If you want at .45, get the USP, you won't be disappointed.

>I just found out that they are doing grey frames again, but in full size. I'm thinking about getting one, just because I'm a sucker for athsetics.
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>>35041102
Get the fuck out of here with your shitty tubaware ergos
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>>35041547
>bro just carry a G19 with a comp and RMR
:^)
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what kind of a faggot actually makes a rowland special in 9mm instead of .357sig, the clearly superior choice for that setup...
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>>35042114
I carry a USP45 with a tactical light.
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>>35042204
I carry a USP 9 in Fall and winter. Kek tek 380 in summer cuz it's hot
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I have a usp 45 compact and a cz p-01. Both little brothers of your 2 guns.

The factory da/sa on the usp is up there in pounds, especially the da which feels like 8-9 lbs, but cleaner. Good reset.
Factory da/sa in p-01 is a bit lower in lbs, but the trigger was gritty towards the end and reset is not as good (the trigger resets far). Trigger smooths out a bit after use.

The usp flips noticeably more, then again it's .45 vs 9, but the cz slide sits down into the reciever. And the glock 30 in .45 doesnt muzzle flip like the uspc, so take that for what you will.

As for getting the guns modded, I dropped in cajun gun works hammer, 15# main spring, extended firing pin to compensate, and a trigger reset spring. The trigger is now smooth as fuck, lighter but not too light for defensive, and theres a clean noticeable break.
havent done any internal work on the HK but it seems to be on the pricier side.

Just hunt gunbroker for a used USP, the things are built like tanks and you can find one for $200-300 less than new prices. And buy an SP01 as well.
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>>35041047
USP, if you get tired of it i'll buy it from you
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Not trying to hijack but can anons say if it's worth buying a used USP45? I really want one but college poorfag and not sure if it's worth the cost of a brand new one. Don't intend to carry(have a G26) just want one to have and shoot for fun.
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>>35042304
Ye, got one on GB for $500. Its a fun .45
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>>35042304
If you're interested in a .40, the usp .40's are being sold by the truckload. Its a gun designed around that caliber and all the operatorfags and fudds are selling off their .40's because MUH FBI dropping it for the 9mm.
I remember seeing $450 for used usp40's a few months ago.
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>>35042304
Used USPs are a much better value than new ones.

Frankly the USP is way overpriced new.
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>>35042312
>>35042380
>>35042393
Guy in my area selling his USP 45 for $550 it looks like an older model but idc. Is there anything I specific I should look for problem wise?
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>>35041378
>USP if you're an operator brand operator who needs a gun that will function 1000000000% of the time regardless of circumstance.

my usp gets constant FTFs on two magazines, and the trigger goes dead whenever i decock it

it is possibly the shittiest, least reliable gun i've owned
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>handgun rec thread
pls respond
>>35041688
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>>35042147
Makes sense to me desu, even if it's a little more ricey than useful. Rowland Special 9mm is a laser gun, an excellent range toy and there's no downside to real use.
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>>35042434

You sure your hammer is not busted?
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>>35042434
I mean, it doesn't happen often for most guns in general but shit breaks sometimes. Have you considered getting it fixed instead of acting like a retard?
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>>35042434
Did you buy it used? Hammer may be fucky. If you lock the hammer then rack the slide it bends it.
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any recommendations for IWB (3-5oclock) holsters for a fullsize usp 45?
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>>35041152
Yeah A, don't know how you managed that with an S8.
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>>35041047
I have never used a USP but I have the same CZ you're looking at.
I love it and there is very good aftermarket for it too.
Don't know about USP.
But keep your feedramp clean and don't trust your life to cheap ammo if it's dirty.
The ergos are unbeatable IMO and the low barrel is very nice.
USP is prolly a better "duty gun" but if you're a good owner, it will make no difference.
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>>35041047
Go for the Koch.
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>>35041353
what if they make a 10mm usp
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>>35041047
HK45 or HK45C

If you are only considering two outdated guns, get the USP.
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>>35042986
>10 rounds capacity
>not 12
lol
What an idiot.
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>>35043102
If you are overly concerned about mag capacity and you choose .45ACP over 9mm you are an idiot in the first place. The HK45/HK45C is the superior pistol. I say that having owned USPs in .40, 9mm and .45ACP.
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>>35041047
USP, USP, USP, USP!
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>>35043171
that grip wrap is very ugly
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>>35043191
Your mom is ugly.
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>>35043191
Your mom is ugly and you have no taste.

>Also, it's my EDC, I couldn't care less if it's ugly si long as it works.
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>>35043191
In case anyone hasn't told you, your Mom is ugly.
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>>35043230
>>35043191
>Ugly mom mind
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>>35043171
Do you have an instagram? Also, post pic of .40 USP with APLC please.
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>>35043284
No, why?

Here you go
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>>35043293
I want to see your pistols on a daily basis my guy. I love USPs.
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>>35042645
Have I got a video for you!

https://youtu.be/wzh16zi55G0
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>>35043303
Flattered, but I don't have much in the way of social media, sorry.

>I will be competing in steel challenge with the .40 and filming in VR compatible 360° though
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>>35043293
Did you get the normal APLC or did you get the Glock model?
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>>35043347
Alright. Does the APLc hold up well with the .40 recoil? How many rounds have you fired with it on the gun?
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>>35041102
The file name.......say it with me now.
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>>35043354
Glock model.

>>35043404
Only about 200, and 50 .45, it hasn't had any issues tn that short time. The lense wipes clean incredibly easy, almost like it had a coating.
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>>35043354
>>35043404
Did some testing with it if you want to see
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>>35043466
>>35043482
Okay. What difference is between normal and Glock specific? It looks decently bright.
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>>35043512
No idea, this one fit flush with my frame/slide/muzzle and that's all tgat mattered because I appendix carry that big ass USP45.

It's pretty good

>Light off
>Light on
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>>35043536
>Off
>On
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>>35043542
>Off
>On
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>>35043549
You get the idea
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>>35043564
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>>35043536
I'm glad I caught you to know, I was going to buy the standard.
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>>35043589
USP full size with a GG&G rail adapter, the Glock APLc sits flush. Sorry I can't speak to anything else.
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>>35043608
That's what I'll buy since I have the GG&G already. Can you Mexican carry it without turning the light on?
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>>35043116
>superior pistol
>gives absolutely zero reasoning
Checks out.
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>>35043620
Why in the flying fuck would you mexican carry a USP?
And I'm not sure, never tried. I'm going to guess no.
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>>35043697
Sometimes I carry it in my pocket unchambered around the house.
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>>35043102
>not being an autistic person who wants an exactly ten-round pistol so they can make the grip as thin as possible
Yes, I do have small hands, what about it?
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>bump
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Why would you purposely gimp yourself by carrying a .45 pistol when 15-rounds of 9mm is common?
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>>35044215
FUCK YOU, WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!
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>>35044233
Because the USP45 can fire .45 Super

>TFW my EDC is 16 rounds
>Of 230gr pushing 1150fps

10mm is for bitch wrists
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>>35044236
Go home you're drunk.
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>>35044258
How do you make that work? Also, what baseplates are you using?
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>>35044264
I am shitfaced on home brew lol

>>35044273
I made my own hokster (drinking my own cider and molding my own cimp holster as we speak)
Here, my drunk tutorial

http://www.hkpro.com/forum#/topics/341146?page=1
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>>35044442
>>35044264
>Holdter in prigress
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>>35044463
>>35044442
How does it shoot .45 super? What's the difference between that and .45ACP?
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>>35044507
>How does it shoot .45 super?
Like a champ

>What's the difference between that and .45ACP?
About 7,000psi
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>>35044567
I meant in case and bullet and chamber dimensions. Lol.
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>>35044579
Identical, I shoot 230gr ball .45 acp on the range and carry 230gr .45 Super JHP for self defense, same barrel, same 18lb spring. The USP45 is God's handgun.
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>>35042426
look at the top of the barrel. it's an easy way to see how much it's been through. How the frame looks helps too. They're literal tanks so you shouldn't worry. I like the older ones because the HK in the slide isn't laser etched
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>>35044662
Do they make something similar for .40?
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>>35044853
Look into Underwood ammo, sorry but that's my best suggestion aside from just buying a 10mm conversion barrel like a man
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>>35045200
Ehhhh I like my USP mags too much to go 10mm.
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>>35041894
>shitty tubaware ergos
And you prefer the USP45??
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>>35041464
>Cucking the man of his (You)
You're pure evil
This board is truly a place of scum and villainy
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>>35043564
>>35043549
>>35043542
>>35043536
>>35043482
This shit is extremely annoying.
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>>35044682
Thanks, anon. Any specific questions I should ask? Never bought used before or off Armslist. Here's some pics he sent when I asked if still for sale.
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>>35045609
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>>35045526
Get fucket by a rake, I don't care what triggers your autistic ass.
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>>35045619
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>>35045609
>>35045619
>>35045631

a bit of wear but nothing major. looks great for 550. The AB date code means it was made in 01. The HK isn't laser etched so it'll look extra sexy filling it in with red and the rest with white if you want. If you don't like the DA/SA or it having a safety you can change all that. How many mags are coming with it? HK mags are kinda pricy but thats common for most guns
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>>35045609
>>35045619
>>35045631

oh shit also ask how many rounds have been through it, at 20k you should change the recoil spring but uhhhh I never have and I haven't had a problem oops lmao. they should be fairly cheap to change out, I would when you buy it, may have to break the new spring in with hotter ammo but it should run everything but lead reloads because of the barrel. Ask are all the parts stock and what Variant the gun is ie V1 is decocker and safety, V2 is that but left handed, V3 is decock only etc etc

Doesn't sound like a lot but they're tanks of guns and stand up amazingly well to abuse
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>>35045662
>a bit of wear but nothing major. looks great for 550
So not bad for 550? I have to drive a little to get to him, would i be a cunt if I offered $500?
I emailed him asking if there were any other issues other than cosmetic.
>How many mags are coming with it?
I'll find out. Should've asked in the first email.
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>>35045697
bit of a cunt move to ask 500 I'd say. They're ~850 new and I doubt he has just one mag thrown in with it. If he doesn't wanna include mags (doubt he'd do that) then ask for 500 being as mags are kinda pricy. 550 sounds amazing though and I'm honestly jelly as fuck. 45 isn't my favorite caliber but USPs shoot anything nice and smooth as fuck so it'd be one if not the first 45 I get
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>>35045740
Okay anon. Just wanted to make sure and didn't wanna try and jew the guy despite being a broke collegefag.
>If he doesn't wanna include mags (doubt he'd do that) then ask for 500 being as mags are kinda pricy
Alright so I'll see what its coming with.
>550 sounds amazing though and I'm honestly jelly as fuck. 45 isn't my favorite caliber but USPs shoot anything nice and smooth as fuck so it'd be one if not the first 45 I get
I had a XD45 and that was my first .45 and really enjoyed shooting it. This will be my first da/sa and H&K for that matter so I hope this thing goes through.
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>>35045697
looks just a lil bit of cosmetic wear babe. for the price of a Glock you're getting something you'll never be able to afford enough ammo to kill

also if you're autistic as me and want a light to sit flush with the frame and slide get a G&G rail adapter and an APLc

>>35045766
XDs get alot of of hate but I haven't heard much bad shit about them other than grip zone memes. USPs have a recoil reduction recoil spring in the fullsize but I can't tell you how well it works. I'd imagine it's fucking glorious with a 45. They definitely shoot softer than a G22 and a G19
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>>35045799
iirc SIGs you had to watch out a bit for rust on the rails, will I need to worry about that with the USP? sorry my knowledge is limited with handguns.
>get a G&G rail adapter and an APLc
Thank you, I might want that aesthetic look eventually.
>XDs get alot of of hate but I haven't heard much bad shit about them other than grip zone memes
I think it's that and the grip safety and Croatia thing but desu I never had an issue with the safety and it ate whatever ammo I fed it no matter how shitty.
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>>35045827
The finish is pretty fuckin durable so I doubt you'd have rust issues unless you're trying. When ya get there, ask to take it apart and peek at the inside.
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>>35041047
Buy American you dirty twat!
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>>35045848
Will do. Thanks anon.
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Came here to post this


I love my Sp01
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>>35045873
no problem babe. let us know when ya get it. we don't have HK threads often so it'll be nice seein ya with it and being happy
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>>35041047
>usp 45

lurk more codfag
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>>35045895
>we don't have HK threads often so it'll be nice seein ya with it and being happy
Can't wait!
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>>35045949
do it babe. come to the dark side and get ready to trigger cucks with your superior handgun
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>>35045860
>most companies have a production facility in the US
>companies can change their HQ to a postbox in Slovakia for tax breaks at a moment's notice
What is "buying American" any more?
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>>35045911
>fanboy handgun #47904 is clearly better
Unless you're favorite pistol is a Mark 23 then you're wrong.
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>>35043571
Very resident evil/silent hill looking footage. I like it.
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>>35045993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJzNUydlQ4I
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>>35046089
Thanks, there is even a boss throne in there, place is 3000% creepy. Fuck my company for telling me to handle that alone and unarmed?
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>>35041047
I was in this same position not too long ago, my friend was selling his USP 45 for $1,000 with 4 mags and installed match trigger and night sights. He said he would sell it to me for $800. Meanwhile my other friend's dad was selling his CZ-75 SP-01 and said he would sell it to me for $500. It was a hard decision but I ended up going with the USP. I might get the CZ if he still has it in the future but I'm starting an AR-15 soon.
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>>35043293
Why don't you have an Expert or Elite?
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What's the best caliber to get a USP in? Not best caliber in general I mean specifically in the case of the usp
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>>35047416
Any of them, but the .45 is amazing
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