/KTG/ Knife General Thread

Who here can't stop buying chink shit

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>>35026959
Me.

Bought a Ganzo and a Chink Strider. Ganzos are delicious little beater knives.

>>35027062
how is the blade play and lock on the ganzo

>>35027087
amazing. very underrated knives
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0EIAjQ61Y

What would be /k/'s recommendation for a decent fixed-blade at a reasonable price?
Looking for a drop point with a full tang for vaccinating THOTs.

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>>35026817
>Benchmade
>Spyderco
More like blade play edition.

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So far I have a knife in 1095, vg-10, s30v, cts204p, and a 3V

What other steels should I get and experience?

>>35028239
Zdp-189, s90v or s110v

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>>35028085
is around $2000 reasonable enough?

What is the best way to lash a knife say, a standard Mora, to a stick to form a makeshift spear?

It's for reasons.

Mini Griptilian or Para 2?

>>35028239
Niolox and Böker Damast

>>35031534
Mini grip if you want a small EDC. PM2 if you want a knife that can do it all.

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>>35026817
handmade knife maker here and kydex accessory maker. Anyone want anything?
Just made this sheath for a /k/ommando's SOG knife.

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AMA

>>35032177
what knife is that?

>>35026817
just got the one in the middle

>>35027062
>i buy shitty stuff just so i can have more stuff
those both look like bad and you should feel bad
also neither is a Strider knockoff

>>35032346
lurk moar, ganzo is a great company, the materials arent in the range of super steels but the build quality it still good

>>35032398
>b-but i read it on 4chan
no. you're wrong. they are shit. kys

>>35032481
you are a little faggot. i abuse my 704 and it lusts for more. so fuck you

>>35032481
Ive tried 4 ganzos, all great except one which was the benchmade bedlam clone. That had shitty lockup. The ones he pictured were 10/10 knives at that price. The steel is some garbage mystery material though.. cant trust the chinks

>>35032488
good for you. i'm glad that you can be satisfied with an inferior product. having low standards is a good economic survival strategy
and, i'm actually a big, fat faggot

>>35032660
i'd rather save my money and just buy one nice knife.
personally, not into chinkshit

>>35032702
You always need that one knife you beat to complete shit. Why not have it be cheap. And keep that other one looking nice and last longer?

>>35032702
This is my stance as well. I used to buy a decent amount of chinkshit (mostly Chinese-made stuff from real brands like Kershaw, though), but now it's just drawer clutter because I'd rather carry and use my nice stuff.

>>35032792
Why buy an expensive knife if you're not gonna use it? I don't abuse any of my knives - I use appropriate tools for prying, turning screws, etc. - but when it comes to doing actual knife stuff, I treat my Sebenza, Benchmades, Lionsteel, etc. the same way I treat my Kershaws and other cheap knives.

>>35032481
have u ever owned one?

>>35028239
H1

>>35030246
Don't.

Use your knife to carve the stick into a spear. Then you have a knife AND a spear.

If you lash your only knife to a stick to turn it into a spear, then you stand a better chance at losing or breaking your only tool.

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>chinks can put s35vn on a $35 knife
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWIOxsBZwI
yeah the design is poorly executed but its still kinda crazy

>>35028239
CPM M4 and something completely shit, you need to know just how bad a blade steel can be to fully appreciate stuff like 204p and 3v. Get something from a flea market for $10

>>35032911
no. however, i don't need to eat dogshit to know it tastes bad

Uh so just lost my lionsteel tre g10. Seek recommondations for another flipper/easy acces knife, more affordable with thick blade that this time I will put on a keychain, needs to clip sturdily to trouser too. The g10 started clipping and rusting way too fast.

Use are for boxes, thick plastic bags and ribbons in the food industry. Nothing with dragons and lores, ugly logos preferred.

>>35033083
chinks lie about the steel they use.

>>35032177
I still regret never getting the Spyderco barong

>>35032398
>>35032488
>>35032792
i don't care what you people buy.
your cheap knockoffs are a reflection of your character. everything you do in life reflects on you.
you like cheap stuff. great

>>35033285
then why did it cut more than the Murican steel?

>>35033327
cuz errythin on jewtoobs is real

>>35033280
That's tough, because the TRE is exactly the knife I'd normally recommend. Maybe a Spyderco Para 2 or 3?

>>35033344
a very persuasive answer. time for you to head on back to bladeforums, Hinderer is waiting for his daily tongue bath

>>35033327
what american steel?

The main reason they probably got S35VN on a relatively inexpensive knife

>economy of scale
>cheaper labor practices
>American oversight so they can't just put whatever they wanted and call it S35VN

>>35033492
No.

The reason chinese get steel for cheap, is that their government helps the local businesses when buying raw materials for export. This was said by a chinese guy on bladeforums years back.

>>35033492
Crucible have a chinese office and distributor

>>35026817
Love my SpyderCo Tenacious with the full serrated edge

>>35033363
Hinderer knives are very nice, but i doubt Rick gives a fuck about bladeforums. regarding the forum itself: it's not just a bunch of assblasted poorfags like 4chan, but they're just as obnoxious and even easier to troll than you cunts. however since they just ban trolls the potential for amusement is very limited
i hope you don't cut yourself on your edgy chinkshit m8

>>35033676
mad af

>>35033709
kek no really

>>35033676
>>35033788
>i doubt Rick gives a fuck about bladeforums
you can't be fucking serious
Some guy on Facebook made a video about how one of his Field Tech fixed blades broke during use and Rick went ballistic calling the guy a dipshit etc. and claiming that he must have been using the knife for throwing. It spilled over into his subforum on BF, when people saw what a petulant child he was being they sided with the Facebook guy so Rick had his second in command, Rob, delete all the posts and had the subforum closed.
www.bladeforums.com/threads/the-rick-hinderer-forum-is-now-closed.1329456/

The knife making community is full of people who see knife collectors as nothing more than cattle to be milked for cash, people like Hinderer, Strider, Medford etc.

>>35033322
Stop being a raging autist. I swear you're just as bad as the Opinel faggots. Ganzo knives are fine. Are they Benchmades? No, but they are also -$20.

>>35033865
>facebook

Yeah, it and instagram are were 99% of the knife community visit. Some companies don't even do press releases anymore just social media posts

>>35032679
>>35033322
you knife fags are such morons. i would rather spend my money on guns, than expensive super-duper, turbocharged, uranium dipped, c4 jading, kabbala reading, autofellationing, type sv123423489234j2rjwerjwerjklwer+9001/sr-23+9002 steel made by Russel GolDstein Edition, benchcuck knoife!
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKERS! KYS FUCKING NIGGERS

>>35036364

>stop liking what I don't like

>>35036364
Customs are usually the only knives that ever go $500+. High end prodiction knives sit at around $100-300 which isn't that much for something that last a life time.

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My camping knife

>>35036364
Some of us have enough money to buy both knives *and* guns. Have you tried not being poor, anon?

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I love that fucking ridiculous Cold Steel thing. It's actually pretty handy for clearing black berry bushes and such.

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CF

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three types of cf

>>35026817
why would anyone need more than one of the same kind of knife

>>35035007
?

>>35036917

maybe it's the knife you really like so you get a few so you have one available in many locations?

>>35036917
>carry knife
>knife is love, knife is life
>drop, lose, or have knife get stolen
or break it if you're a retard
>fugg
>buy new knife
>grow attached to new knife
>don't want to lose new knife
>find same knife for obscenely good price somewhere
>you now have two knives
>start carrying new knife so you don't lose old knife
>grow attached to new knife
>don't want to lose new knife...
it's a vicious cycle

>>35036917
>need
SHALL

>>35033275
>>35032481
>>35033322
They're neat and good value, don't see why you're an autist.

>>35036593
i was bullied for liking ganzos
>>35036691
>>35036702
i have the money, i am not going to spend money on expensive knives, when my ganzo and usmc serve me quite well.

>>35037871
Nothing wrong with Ganzo, but there's also nothing wrong with more premium knives either.

>>35031735
Location? Might want a new sheath for my SOG Tech Bowie.

>>35033083
well here's the funny thing;
My paramilitary 2 in s30v not only rolled real bad, but it chipped on me as well. Maybe it's a bad batch, or maybe I did bad voodoo to it, but a little bit of lateral stress and it twisted the edge like a mother fucker. I realize there will always be bad batches, grind angle importance, and just stupidity, but having paid $100+ for a knife with a modern super steel, it did open my eyes up and now I really just use S30V as my benchmark.

Also, the para2 in s30v has a much more toothy edge when sharpened to the same degree as my other knives. I guess I'll have to go lower than 17-18 degrees on the the thing.

I know it's just spyderco I have of s30v and just one knive of that steel from them, but it's left a sort of bad taste in my mouth. ESPECIALLY when I look to benchmade and hoping to buy some of their knives, but almost a majority of their stuff is s30v and much more expensive.

>>35038156
and now, I did not use the paramilitary 2 as a pry bar, shit, I don't really even use my knives for batoning, I have a packable axe/hatchet for that job.

>>35038156
I'd be contacting Spyderco and telling them the steel isn't performing as well as other s30v, they are probably the worst out the big companies when it comes to warranty but if you badger them enough they'll give in.

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Getting into custom handle scales just deepened the hole of knife addiction. Now knives that just had handles didn't like look more appealing. Just pimped out two mini Griptilians, looking into copper or brass scales for a Paramilitary 2.

>>35038695

>big 3

Spyderco, Benchmade and...?

>>35039022
I'm guessing Zero Tolerance.

>>35037957
USA PA

>>35026817
I want a very heavy duty knife for killing animals with.

I don't really care about it's bushcraft abilities because I have hatchets and machetes for that

>>35039203
needs to be long enough to reach the heart deer or boar or whatever

>>35038860
http://cuscadi.de/

Have fun

>>35036862
your SMF looks nice and it looks legit, though it's hard to tell from pics
can you post the lock side?
love me some DGG

>>35034400
>>35036364
>>35037171
The guy is right, you know.

>>35038156
>s30v
>supersteel
Not anymore buddy, but that's not bad really

>>35040446
He's not though, i don't buy a bunch of chink knives and then NOT buy expensive ones, its just cool dropping 20 bucks here or there on a knife that has even better build quality than knives four times its price.

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I hope you guys aren't buying those goddamn chinamen knifes. You need to be saving your money for GOOD™ knives because god knows if you cease coddling American companies for even a second they'll go bankrupt.

>>35041424
i think your assumption is a bit misguided man

>>35026817
I was dumb and wasted $160 on two mini griptillians, when all I needed was maybe 2 or 3 $14 Opinel no. 6 knives.

>>35034400
What is wrong with opinel?

So, if I've got a bunch of shitty knives I want to try and sharpen properly on the cheap, is something like this (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00062BIT4/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_yoCQzbSEBHCSN) and a strop a decent starting point? Looks like the medium and "fine" at least are Arkansas stones. Sorry for the newfag question.

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What's a quality butterfly knife that won't fall apart from playing with it, but also doesn't cost a fucking shit ton? Any recommendations?

I bought one on a whim once at one of those shit stores that sell swords and weird shit like knives shaped like spiders and shit, and I ended up really enjoying twirling it around. The handle snapped, because it was some sort of shitty aluminum alloy or something. Then I bought one that had steel handles with wood scales, and the scales popped off.

>>35032177
Why do you hate fixed blades?

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>>35039203
>>35039479
A spear would be better or hunting sword would be better.

If you're set on getting a knife, look into "pig sticker" designs like the Svord Pig Sticker since they're designed for it.

>>35041556
Pinoy Steel

http://pinoysteel.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=90_91&product_id=513

http://pinoysteel.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=90_94&product_id=509

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Haven't taken a new one of these in a while, figured I would.

>>35041515
Nothing, they are great knives for the money and I own one myself. My issue is with shills screeching Opinel is the best or is all you'll ever need. Criticizing people for buying high end knives is just as autistic as criticizing them for buying affordable ones.

>>35041490
I actually wasted about $500 all in with the new scales. And honestly all some really needs is a multitool with a blade which is much handier than any single knife.

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>>35027062
I'm not super enamored with mime but it's not bad.

Hello, /k/ I'm travelling to NY soon and I was planning on buying a knife, a karambit more precisely. I wanted to know before buying anything if there are any legal or age restraints on buying knifes there and about any laws regarding knife carry

>>35043497
New york isnt the best place to do it and karambits are a meme

>Have a SOG Seal Pup
>Great knife, durable steel, but doesn't hold an edge too long
>Sheath comes with a pocket big enough for a mylar blanket, an artificial flint, and a sharpening tool

Got the first two, not sure about the third, but at the moment it's looking awful difficult to not buy a simple 4-inch ceramic rod for four bucks. Maybe with a Lansky LCD02 diamond, it even comes with a fixed-angle bit in the butt in case I need to fix a burr or something. 17 bucks though, but it's compact.

>>35041424
i've 'wasted' maybe $8000 on knives this year just because i could
Sebenza, several Striders, 7 - 8 Emersons and at least a half dozen Microtechs
i'll probably never even use most of them

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>>35028227
Shut the fuck up, you bitch.

...sorry that was really harsh. The first week of classes has really got me tired out. Memes and playful taunting will return within a couple weeks, I guess.
>Have a good night ;3

>>35026817
>>35032177
>>35033083
>>35036862
>>35036905
>>35038860
>meme holes
>>>/reddit/

>>35045924
>not rotating them everyday

>>35046143
The sheepsfoot mini grip looked the best with the canvas micarta in my defense.

>>35046143
>being so poor you can't get a fucking spyderco

>>35046148
i have about 10 folders that i do rotate.
Sebenza stays in my back pack (daily user)
others are fixed blades that i just like and some are nice knives that i just don't love for whatever reason

>>35046211
hey bro, if you were my bro irl i'd give you a nice knife
i gave away a few Kershaw/Emersons, some SAKs and some Spydies to friends

i'm not rich, but i did have quite a bit of expendable income this year

>collect knives
>go out of my way to get different blade steels in models I want even it performs worse and cost more than other options

Pls be patient

>>35046711
kek i do this

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Have a Microtech LUDT on the way. Last turquoise one on BladeHQ no less.

>>35046143
What's wrong with the hole?

>>35047552
I really want one of these. I like benchmade but nothing has the blade geometry like the LUDT. Worried about microtech warranty though

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>>35047655
I recommend checking out Protech. They make great automatic knives.

>>35046711
well, it's kind of boring to get the same model with he same steel.

>>35026817
Carbon fiber is my fetish.

Why do these small knives even exist? Both for fighting and as a tool you'd want a longer blade. Do you want something thats easy to conceal or are you just autistic faggots?

>>35048362
Yeah, we're autistic faggots.

>>35048362
Tool wise 3 inches is ideal aside from maybe for maybe food prep and even then I haven't had much of a problem with 3 inch folders.

Are you the dagger autist who always comes into the knife threads and screeches about how every knife isn't a FS dagger?

>>35046143
Thumb studs get caught up on shit when youre cutting
>b-b-but i dont use my knives i just glare at them cos theyre epic!

>>35048362
Better control for precision cutting.

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>>35048362
>fighting

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I love my 940-1 but it's way too expensive for what you get

>>35048885
>way too expensive for what you get
how so?

>>35047774
What multitool is that on the bottom rowen?

>>35048908
Look at the voids in the CF in the picture I posted..

Not to mention a $250 knife should have zero blade play. I can tighten the pivot until it has no blade play but then it's too tight to swing open and closed freely.

And it uses the same dinky axis lock hardware that they use on practically all their knives. For the price it should at least have unique hardware for the thumb studs and axis lock thing.

>bought a mini-griptillian
>liked it but didn't like how small it was
>sent it back and got a griptillian
>like it but it's too big and scares people
fuck

>>35048936
for the blade play issue i geuss thats the price you pay for buying from benchmade sight unseen in 2017, their quality control is currently very bad so the best way to buy one is in person where u can test for stuff like that, same with the CF issue.

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>>35048362
for most cutting tasks which don't require a full tang 1/4" sharpened prybar- from an unrelated FS autist

>>35048943
Uh yeah, my point is that for the price that shouldn't be the case.

>>35048950
yeah i know, im just pointing out that not every 940 will be like that, and buying benchmade currently is a risk unless u can see it in person

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Should I?

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Microtech SOCOM Alpha / Ultratech green

>>35049233
no its ugly

What is the best carbon steel machete for the money?

I would prefer something relatively short and with some sort of finger guard.

I don't want anything tacticool looking either.

>>35041683
I have 3. One is used, 2 are kinda new still. I just like the mechanical function aspect of folders and more interesting options.

Dont question my autism.

>>35048936

You got a bad one. I'm sorry. Mine has perfect centering, zero blade play, and swings open no problem. It's perfect in those areas. The only thing not perfect is the grind on the s90v edge. It's sharp as fuck, but when you look closely at the edge and angle it's imperfect. Cuts just fine of course.

Good points about the hardware. It's an expensive knife but I feel like mine is worth it. Would feel ripped off if I had yours. I'd return it to benchmade.

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>>35033317
Its the comfiest thing. I dont dare to use it. Its mint.

>>35047552
nice!
i have a few Microtechs. the LUDT is a solid side opener, probably their best and most reliable auto. kinda small for me though
congrats

>>35047655
>Worried about microtech warranty though
contact Dave at Hollow Grind if you have problems

>>35049331
I've had it for nearly a year. These are not things that bother me on a day to day basis. If they were I would have done something about it. I'm just saying it's radically overpriced. At least give me unique screws or something other than these basic bitch torx head screws.

>>35048882
Better than your bare hands if some nigger gang tries to beat you to the ground or breaks into your home. It's difficult to get a firearm in my country and even more difficult to claim justified self defense after using it

>>35049243
Ok well I just bought one

Recommendation for self-defense?

>>35049864
Inb4 a gun

bought a mini-griptilian for edc, generally pretty happy. it locks up very solidly, zero play or slop, fit and finish is good. i'm a fan of the glass-impregnated nylon handle, but I realize it could put a lot of people off it.

thinking about getting a 940 or something like it too, but not sure if i can justify it.

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>>35049864
Ideally double edged, and long enough to reach the vital organs. I'd say any military knife or dagger is good enough.
And since you have to reach the organs: prefer stabbing. Remember, slashing anywhere but the neck and wrists will only make the opponent more angry and adrenalin filled, only slash if youre really confident that you'll get a good hit.
But keep it sharp by all means, it will make the stabbing wound worse when you pull the knife out.

And only use it if you REALLY have to

>>35049864
sword.
srsly
even niggers will avoid you

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>>35049864
Budget and state? Those are pretty important Anon.

Also just to be upfront your best bet if you can't into gun is pretty much always pepper spray + running.

>>35050608
That source looks on par with pic related.

>>35050845
>pepper spray + running.
haha right the next time theres a robbery ill just pepperspray him and jump out my window.

What's wrong with the source? Know any better?

>>35050938
I rather doubt that Anon was talking about home defense when he said self defense. Even if he was a knife is shit for that because when in the home you don't have to worry about length restrictions and can use things like bats.

>What's wrong with the source?
The fact that the first sentence on the page is talking about "techniques that will only stop a pussy" is a pretty big red flag, as is the author disparaging grips that are commonly extolled by people who know their shit. It's one thing to say "here's what I think is best and here's why," entirely another to say "here's what I think is best and everything else is shit." I fenced throughout middle and high school and were I forced to use one of my blades against someone I'd be coming at them with a sword bayonet in what he identifies as the "fighting grip" which is apparently somehow not suitable for fighting. Anyone who follows the literature commonly associated with the F-S will be using a similar technique. Granted sport fencing isn't the same as real fighting but I still have plenty of experience putting the tip of a blade to someone capable of doing the same to me.

Also I'm pretty sure that's a boning knife in his hand.

>>35048938
Big handle-wise or blade-wise?

If it's just the blade that's too big, you can pay a knifemaker to grind it down to a more manageable size.

>>35049275
Imacasa and Tramonita are good cheap options.

>>35050608
>>35050938
>What's wrong with the source?
It complains about armchair warrior theory when both it and your post is literally armchair warrior theory.

>>35050845
I actually know this guy in real life.

Nice guy, actually trains and isn't anywhere near as much of a mall ninja as you'd think.

G10>carbon fiber

>>35051106
>armchair warrior theory
The author actually did time in Folsom prison and is said to have witnessed and experienced several serious knife fights. Of course, its not a complete guide since he couldnt use actual knives as a prisoner but knife-like tools, which is why the tactics are all limited to simple stabbing attacks

>>35051097
>the "fighting grip" which is apparently somehow not suitable for fighting
Yes, fighting/hit grip is something I'm not entirely sure of myself, some other knife guides I've red also recommended the fighting grip.
Not sure about actual fencing, but I imagine getting a blade as deep inside as possible and pulling it out quickly might require a decent amount of strength, the kind of grip thats suitable might depend on the blade, the wound location and physical strength.

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Hi /k/
It's there any good knife like pic related?
I usually avoid them as they seem to have a little of everything and a lot of nothing.

>>35051594
You could just try an SAK with less shit on it. Otherwise Leatherman is a popular brand but they're fudds so if you don't want your money to go to fudd politics you'll want to look elsewhere. I hear a lot of Gerber's multitools are OK but these days I tend to avoid Gerber.

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>>35051282
>experienced several knife fights
>he couldnt use actual knives
pick one

I've read the book. The good thing is that it addresses how fast and brutal a knife attack is and how criminals think. It veers too much into "this is the only way people use knives" territory like only Folsom prison inmates are the true knife experts.

>icepick grip is bad and only happens in movies meme
We have tons of historical manuals from different martial cultures that all use the knife in an icepick grip

>slashing does nothing meme
Slashes aren't as lethal as thrusts, but that doesn't mean they aren't useful and deadly in their own right.

You cut the tendons in a guy's arm, and he's not going to be able to hold anything.

Even a small knife can do pretty serious cuts when you account for the guy moving in to the cut.

>>35051282
>but I imagine getting a blade as deep inside as possible and pulling it out quickly might require a decent amount of strength

Unless you're trying to go through bone 55N should be all you ever need with a kinda pointy knife.

Hi /ktg/ Looking for some reccomendation on a good innawoods beater knife. Around 6 inches in length and I have a budget of $150

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Is this super tacky? I want to upgrade my 551 grips to aluminum, but I'm having a hard time deciding on a style.

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>>35051696
Thanks, I think leatherman like knifes could be to much for EDC.
Also, Maybe you like this pic.

>>35051987
Looks good to me

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>>35051980
Doug Ritter Perseverance $125

https://www.knifeworks.com/doug-ritter-rsk-mk2-perseverance-knifeworks-exclusive.html?

>>35052015
The grips are $110.. I know that's insane for the type of aluminum they're using, but the reviews on the product are stellar. I think I'm doing it.

>>35052053
Well that is a fucking lot for some aluminum man

>>35052072
Yeah, I know. I'm just really sick of the plastic grips the 551 comes with. Not many other quality options put there.

>>35050528
Do it. 940s are very nice. They have the best action out of all the axis folders in my opinion.

>>35052114
AWT is quality and I've been happy with mine. You should be able to find the none honeycomb solid grips for cheaper.

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No one?

>>35050528
If you really want a 940 for cheaper consider getting a second hand one and sending it back to BM for their "spa treatment". I picked up a Contego for 110 and they replaced all the hardware, pocket clip and fixed the asymmetrical grind the previous owner had on it for free, it was like new. Saved $80

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>>35052260
Get that yuropoor shit out of here.

>>35052225
Thanks for the feedback. I ordered the grips!

>>35052013
>Recurve = kukri
>Daggers necessarily having 2 edges
Meh, I guess I can't disagree insofar as that's the current popular use. Overall that chart doesn't seem too bad I've definitely seen worse.

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>>35036862
hey, mister. what is this one?

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>>35051282
What he identifies as the fighting grip is generally known as the saber grip an can be found in everything from modern fencing to military swordsmanship. I've seen the grip he advocates used but I can't jive with the fact that he disparages a grip that I know was used historically and was taught to use myself.

From the information that he learned what he knows in prison I can only guess that most of what he's seen fail was people trying to emulate what they saw in movies without training. If someone tried the comically telegraphed overhead stab and ate shit because of it I could see why he would think it's no good but people worldwide have used variations of the icepick grip to great effect.

Will follow up with another post about icepick grip.

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>>35052610
Follow up post.

Pic related is a Russian knife used during WW2. The designers of this took a hint from Fairbairn and simply adopted what criminals were using to kill each other, which at the time was puukkos with modified points. Notice the backwards guard, this is because many Russians like to hold their knives in an icepick grip with the blade inwards. You see something similar in Filipino knife fighting which inspired those backwards p'kal knives that people buy because marketing.

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>>35026817
How do I sharpen a knife without scratching the hell out of the blade?

I want a good utility knife for just general purpose stuff around the house, nothing special. I'd like to only spend $50 but I could go higher for good reason. Any recommendations? And whats the best way to keep it sharp without ruining it? >>35052714

>>35052645
Where can one get a nr-40? Looks better than a Ka-bar.

>>35052747
Opinel knifes are good for your budget.

>>35052714
If you lack the intelligence to figure something like that out, then I don't think you should be using pointy objects.

>>35049233
I am a huge ZT fan but this knife doesn't look practical, get a different ZT.

>>35052645
>puukkos with modified points

Modified how?

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>>35052994
Puukkos generally have a straight spine, people were grinding the knives down so the point was more in line with the center of the knife.

>>35052915
I know of a Windlass repro, outside of that my best guess would be eBay. Mind if I ask what exactly makes you lean towards that over a Kabar?

>>35052981
Yer too late

And you're right, it doesn't look practical at all

>>35053088
I don't like the thin tang of the Ka-bar.

I want to start going camping more often and more alone. I only have folding knives and mostly used a griptilian so far.
Which fixed should I get?
Eyeing bench protagonist and esee 4.

>>35053883
Damn I should've read the thread first this thing >>35052033 looks pretty nice.

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>>35053519
Well you're looking at similar construction with most puukkos.

>>35052920
I've been looking at a few, and this seems to be the best: https://www.amazon.com/Opinel-Carbon-Blade-Folding-Knife/dp/B002SCUO04

Is it really worth buying? The reviews mention the lock being poor and $15 is pretty cheap...

>>35052714
Ontario Rat 1 or 2 depending on size you want.

>>35049404
Nigga send it back to them, they fix that shit up without questioning a thing.

Even if it gets through factory with those defects it won't through their restoration experts.

Then they ship it back good as new. Or better, in your case. Part of the price is why they can have a lifetime guarantee and stand behind it.

>>35052714
You must only abrade the secondary bevel of the knife. Just the edge.

>>35053937
The construction makes the smaller tang not as much of a problem.

>>35052747
>>35053964
Its a knife meant for basic cutting mostly food and other things. Its a more traditional knife and theres no real lock other than the little thing that moves. They're great knives but if you want a tougher one check out the sanrenmu 7010

>>35055043
Thanks anon.

>>35055089
You can get them on gearbest for like $7 or $15 from amazon if you dont wanna wait a month.

>>35052555
>>35036862
bump

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>>35055022
Because?

T B H it kind of just seems like you're just looking for reasons to shit on Kabar. It's not like I think they're perfect, they're often oversold and at this point they cost as much as a BK7 which IMO makes them not worth buying unless you're into the aesthetics, but the design itself is fine as made by other reputable manufacturers like Ontario and Buck.

How gay are rainbow blades

pm101 is gay as fuck

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>>35057460
So why are you bringing him up?

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Wrong pic.

>>35056964
>when you see your knives floating around /k/

ha ha
yes

Those of you who have have a SAK, how many tools do you have on it? I'm thinking about getting a Victorinox Spartan but I wouldn't have any use for something like the corkscrew or can opener, and it would be nice to have something with a few screw drivers on it without being too bulky

Someone should invent a modular Swiss army knife

>>35058620
The top of the bottle opener works on big flatheads and the can opener works on small flatheads and most Phillips heads. I have a climber and I love all the tools on it.

>>35058812
Hm, I might get something like the Tinker, it doesn't have a corkscrew and has some more screwdrivers. The Climber looks nice but I don't think I need the scissors.

>>35059022
Actually, this looks pretty neat since it has pliers but 123g seems a bit bulky for an EDC blade, it's heavier than my Morakniv Companion. Am I just being a weenie?

https://www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Deluxe-Tinker/p/1.4723

>>35048362
>Why do these small knives even exist?

The same reason handguns exist, even though you'd want a rifle for both fighting *and* as a tool - portability and concealability.

To wit, I carry an M1911 daily, but I also own a Gerber Combat Folder, partially serrated - it's "normal" enough to pass as your average pocket knife (it doesn't even have an assisted open,) and the partially-serrated blade is great for tons of mundane tasks (and for emergency things like cutting through a seatbelt in a hurry,) but as you can see, this thing is made with fighting in mind:

http://www.gerbergear.com/Knives/Folding/Applegate-Combat-Folder_45780

This thing is specifically for self-defense in places where I'm not allowed to carry - bought it while I was finishing university. And then there's my fixed blade, which I managed to pick up on sale:

https://www.sogknives.com/seal-pup.html

Pretty much the same design/blade shape as the Seal 2000 knife they sell (very much a fighting knife) but a bit smaller. Picked this because I needed something I could hide under a T-shirt and would hang from an under-shirt harness without getting too uncomfortable or heavy throughout the day. This is also primarily for self-defense - I'd definitely prefer a double-edged fixed blade that's longer and thinner - hell, the M7 bayonet repo I picked up for $20 bucks is technically better designed for fighting - but double-edged knives are illegal in my state unless carried and used as a hunting knife. Single edged, however, is fine - as big as you damn well please. And the SOG even comes with a pocket on the sheath that I keep a small survival kit in - "see officer, this is my survival knife, I just ran into town for some groceries before heading out to our cabin, was gonna get some 'yote hunting time in before nightfall," etc, etc.

I have this tiny-ass little Buck jackknife with an American Flag decoration on the side - put that in a mini survival kit. Everything's situational.

>>35050845
>That source looks on par with pic related.

Just judging the advice on that page by its own merits, I'd say it's pretty straightforward and down to earth. Especially note the bit where he says not to use a saber grip - saber grips are perfectly valid, and some combat knives even have a spot on the grip or back part of the blade to accommodate the thumb being placed there. It's great for superior blade control.

But - exactly as that book says - it's less sturdy than just wrapping the handle in the firmest "hammer" grip you can. And frankly, a saber grip is SOP for... well, *sabers.* Anyone needing the finer blade control on a goddamn rinky-dink knife is someone who knows what the fuck they're doing, and won't be reading any books to understand knife fighting because they've been trained by highspeedlowdragOPERATORZ. Knives are very easy to kill with and very hard to not be killed by; for the purposes of educating Joe Blow in how to defend oneself, skipping the nuanced explanation and just saying DON'T FUCKIN DO THIS, DO THIS INSTEAD is the way to go.

>>35059115
I find the weight of my climber perfect anything bigger than that i don't really know, pliers aren't gonna be as good as a leatherman or something like that. Personally i don't like the dedicated phillips because its kind of redundant and i prefer using the can opener, but the great thing about SAKs is there are so many they can fill many rolls. I'd say the spartan or regular tinker are probably the best bet for you if you don't see yourself using the scissors and want to save on bulk. 2 or 3 layers is the ideal thiccness IMO

>>35059115
>>35059324
Also check out the cadet, its smaller but it provides most of the tools you describe as wanting, although you do lose out on the awl and corkscrew/screwdriver combo

>>35052555
Zero tolerance boot knife

>>35059365
>Zero tolerance boot knife
awesome thank you!

>>35059115

>tinker

Muh nigga. I used to prefer the Tinker when I was carrying swiss army knives. You could pick up a super tinker, drop the pliers to lessen the weight:

https://www.swissarmy.com/us/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Super-Tinker/p/1.4703

In a perfect world there'd be a version with the scissors (so very useful) but without that retarded fucking hook. To this goddamned day, I still don't know what the fuck that hook is supposed to do.

>>35033322
>your cheap knockoffs are a reflection of your character
Holy shit are you so autistic that you actually equate material objects with a reflection of yourself? That's incredibly pathetic and telling of your character.

>>35059533
You use it to carry groceries without fucking up your hand, i wish they replaced it with like a nail cleaner tool like on the classic or something.

>>35059640
i applaude your attempt at grammer anon

>>35059678
>i applaude your attempt at grammer anon
Let me fix that for you, moron.
>I applaud your attempt at grammar, anon.

>>35059533
>hook
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/victorinox-swiss-army-hook-use.973503/

>>35059697
who's autistic?
also good job of misunderstanding the original poster you commented on

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>>35059749
You are moron. You can barely communicate with text. Please tell me what part of your horribly written post was misunderstood?
>your cheap knockoffs are a reflection of your character
You write like a retarded boomer. I mean, are you really so stupid that you're going to try and correct someone's grammar with this sentence?
>i applaude your attempt at grammer anon

>>35059533
The pliers seems like it would be the most useful tool for me and I don't really see what the scissors would accomplish if you already have blades available. The weight itself isn't that much of an issue, just that I need to buy something that has so many tools just to get the ones I want. I might just get the super Tinker or regular Tinker and just stick to using the tweezers.

>>35059640
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>>35059779
stab him with your cheap knife then turn it on yourself

>>35059825
>stab
I'd rather just shoot you and claim it was in defense of the language you're murdering.

>>35059860
your not old enough to own a gun

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>>35059779
I could kill you, anon. And it would be as easy as fucking yo momma on two dollar Tuesday. Your cumulative lives, everyone on this board besides me, have less meaning to me than an ant crawling through my garden. If pressing a button to kill every last one of you meant that I could sleep for one more minute tonight, I'd do it in a heartbeat. When you attain as many weapons as I have collected over the years, formal martial arts training becomes utterly irrelevant. I don't need to know how to fight. I could just kill and kill and kill and never stop because I have a virtually endless supply of weapons and potential, lethal avenues for the destruction and disposal which is /b/. So the next time you fuck with someone, that someone better not be me. Beware. BEWARE.
>*Whispers* [beware]

@35059879
No, but I'm old enough to know you're just a shitposting faggot. Enjoy your lack of (you)'s.

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>>35059889
*which is /k/

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I picked up this Spyderco Manix 2 a couple weeks ago. It has an S90V core sandwiched between CPM 154. It was hard to get a good picture of the steel change but it's very pretty. The grip is very rough with a ton of micro knurling in the carbon fiber. The lock mechanism is still very stiff with a ton of spring pressure. It can be closed one handed, but I prefer to use two with it.

>>35060144

Nice. I was tempted to pick it up, but decided not to. Even though I have a dozen different spydercos, i've never held a manix.

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objectively, as a utilitarian item for field ops, is the bulgarian circle 10 ak-74 bayonet a good knife? I would have always assumed yes but then i saw nutnfancy's test where he broke one. Yes i know the guy is an idiot. Yes i know the bayonet is made of harder steel so it can cut wire and is therefore inherently more brittle. Yes i know no knife is designed to be banged against rocks. deal is, i'm a "if i own it i'll use it" kind of collector and i want to know if it's a good idea to carry this innawoods or better find something else. i wouldnt enjoy breaking one after the hassle it was to find it in the first place

>>35060216
I mean if you mainly run an AK sure but i don't see why you'd get it for tactical/emergency survival purposes if not. bayonets are for stabby pokey

>>35060276
yeah i run a 74, so it make sense for me. thing is, if i use it to cut wire and the ocasional branch, will it burst? maybe batoning?

>>35060298
It would probably be fine in an emergency situation.

>>35060216
No. The steel is absolute shit. Its dull as shit and heavy as shit.

Get a real knife. Not a bayonet.

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>>35059812
I just found this, the deluxe Tinker in blue and it looks pretty sweet, I think I've decided on this now.

http://www.swisstool.co.uk/st/deluxe-tinker-blue-swiss-army-knife/

>>35060315
i have a real knife
>dull IDC
> heavy IDC
only thing i wanna know is if i have to baby it or not

>>35060328
bayonets are not knives

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>>35060303
tanks!

>>35060334
no, i meant besides the bayonet

>>35060325
Well we were suggesting that because you said you didnt want bulk, the pliers and other shtit are gonna make that thing heavy and chunky.

>>35060159
It's like holding 750 grit sandpaper, the forward chook next to the blade makes a difference for detail work.

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How do I reprofile a knife at home?

What sorts of whetstones do I use?

Is 220 grain coarse enough?

>>35060519
>Ozark trail
Throw that shit in the nearest trashcan, go back to Walmart, and try again. When you get a real knife you can get real help.

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>>35060325
If pliers are a big deal to you, then I'd just buy a plier-based tool. The Swisstool Spirit is noticeably thinner than that Deluxe Tinker, only a little bit longer and wider, and packs a lot more functionality.

>>35060572
Not my knife.

I just google a picture because I couldn't be bothered to take a picture.

>>35060572
They're okay knives and probably the best to learn on.

Whats the best way to conceal carry a fixed blade knife?

>>35059914
Did you cut yourself trying to set that photo up?

>>35060519
Yes it is

>>35060519
Get the lansky basic system, its pretty idiotproof. Just rub till its even.

Diamond is faster. So much faster... actually get that instead, youll learn better too since you wont get mad at nothing happening.

>>35033083
>CPM M4 and something completely shit, you need to know just how bad a blade steel can be to fully appreciate stuff like 204p and 3v. Get something from a flea market for $10

A lot of the issue is that Chinese knife makers do completely garbage who gives a fuck heat treatments on those knives, much moreso than the steel choice itself. Add to that that most cheap Chinese made knives are mercilessly power sharpened without any cooling (burning the edge) and you can easily end up with awful edge performance that is only tangentially related to steel choice.

>>35052714
You either practice freehand sharpening enough on cheap knives to develop the muscle memory to hold an angle accurately enough not to scratch the primary grind on the knives you sharpen or you buy a guided system.

Actually even better is to not give a fuck about scratches on the primary grind of a cutting tool, but that doesn't answer your question.

>>35060519
>Is 220 grain coarse enough?
I'd want to go even coarser for reprofiling, much less for removing as much blade height as that picture suggests.

Google Baryonx and go buy an American Mutt stone if you want to sharpen out that much damage. It's ~60 grit . Next best option would be a Norton Crystolon coarse oilstone used with mineral oil (~80 grit). Both with be massively faster than anything else you could use for the job.

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By the way, in case anyone was curious, diamond lapping films applied to balsa wood are the greatest stropping tool ever devised by man.

This finish is from a 3 micron diamond film on balsa wood.

>>35060480
I'm not too concerned about the weight, just that it has too many tools that will make it more cumbersome to operate but there aren't many better alternatives unless I get something like this >>35060607 and that isn't discrete enough since I'm in Europe.

Should I buy Bear's Grylls Ultimate Knife or is there anything better in this price range?

>>35061260
You might aswell get a leatherman or similar at that point for actual pliers.

>>35061224
Holy fucking Christ your edge is beautiful

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>>35062000
Using 3 micron diamond lapping film on balsa wood is basically cheating. It's easy as hell, and leaves an apex that retains similar slicing aggression to a DMT XXF finish.

I sharpened the edge bevel using an Atoma 1200 followed by a DMT XXF and then used the lapping film strop to create a convex microbevel.

>>35062206
Are you drake? I love seeing your beautiful edges

>>35061703
Absolutely fucking not, theyre fucking dogshit. get a Mora if u want something for bush craft or an esee depending on ur budget

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>>35062325
That's me. I haven't been posting much lately, but I recently had the idea to try something new for stropping and wanted to share the results.

I'll eventually make some videos about it when I have time.

For pure skill this one is probably the most difficult. it's a freehand mirror polish on CPM Maxamet using only waterstones.

How to avoid making a very rust-unfriendly knife avoid getting rusty while camping? I use it to break some twigs and such.

I was thinking about just buying a larger sheath and padding it up with something that soaks oil well, and soaking it in oil before I leave. Then I sew a patch of cloth to clean it and sew more leather above it, closing it down with velcro but allowing me to get it up to expose the cloth.

Thus I can give it a quick cleaning to remove any liquid and then I sheath her in the oil rag.

Do you think this would work? It is a spring steel custom knife. Very resistant, but it rusts like a bitch.

I sometimes want to buy a fixed blade knife, but I feel like you look really autistic walking around with it on your belt like it's a dagger/sword. Texas just made it legal to walk around with bowie knives, but walking around with one in public seems like you're asking for trouble. Some redneck military guy came into the store I work at one time and he had a bowie knife on his belt like a fucking dagger, I just feel like he wanted attention.

I always preferred pocket knives because you can conceal them. I know you can buy like a leg sheath or whatever and keep it strapped to your leg, seems a bit excessive to walk around in public with a bowie knife though, I mean why would you need such a large knife? A pocket knife should suffice just fine, a bowie knife seems overkill unless you're going camping or hunting. People who walk around with daggers and bowie knives seem like they're just looking for attention/trouble.

>>35026817

Are just knives allowed here or can we post other bladed weapons

>>35063605

If it cuts, stabs or chops it's fair game.

>>35060703
I came damn near close lol.

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>>35060685
Suppository.

>>35062588
Are you wizard?

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>>35063202
Just carry a small vial or container with oil in it. It's a lot less effort.

I use this oiler pen.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=43266

>>35063487
You can conceal a bowie too, people just don't know how or are purposely open carrying.

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so now that I own these two meme knives, what meme knife should I get next? A bowie?

Is Damascus steel a meme?

kinda tempted to get a damascus fillet or fishing knife

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>>35065015
There's no advantage to it. It just looks nice.

>damascus fillet knife
That's an...unusual combination.

>>35064652
>not getting a keychain knife and doing the meme right
baka senpai

Who makes the best bowie out there?

>>35064652
Sebenza and Espada XL

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>>35065289
Bill Bagwell if you have $1000-1500 laying around.

>>35065879
Any good options in the 100-150 range or am I stuck with buck?

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well, as long as we're posting knives, might as well post mine.

GEC #65 Ben Hogan, and Calton Necker. Both 1095 steel, both actually meant for cutting stuff. I love tha patina on the GEC (was UN-X-LD shiny originally).

>>35066149
Condor moonshiner or that new one they just made, the Ontario sp10 marine raider bowie, kabar Becker bk9

>>35063986
Nope. I've just developed good muscle memory from making many thousands of freehand passes and I have silicon carbide waterstones that can actually deal with an ultra-high carbide steel like Maxamet.

>>35065015
Yes. Modern damascus steel is just pattern welded steel, and pattern welded steel inherently must have heat treatment trade-offs to account for the slightly different optimal heat treatments for the two steels pattern welded together. It will thus be inferior to an optimally heat treated monosteel.

>>35066149
Svord
Plowshare Forge

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkYsEtvPxIg

>China can churn out S35VN and titanium for -$35

How can US makers even compete?

>>35066504
>both actually meant for cutting stuff
Just had to add that on there didnt you?

fucking neckbeard elitist.

>>35067176
Shhh, before Calton shill san starts sperging out about all the marketing hype and behind the edge thinness while throwing out a bunch of numbers.

>>35062380
this

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>>35026817

>>35032262
lv-mbav

>>35067195
The guy that owns that Calton is not the guy who actually wastes his time trying to explain why Calton's knives are awesome.

Don't worry, I'm no longer particularly interested in wasting my time trying to educate anyone.

>>35066504
I've got a few GECs, I have a 15 barlow arriving soon. Also a 47 Harvester which I can't bear to use even though I know it is meant for it.
>>35063487
I conceal carry a fixed blade iwb. Thats the only way to carry one in public. I usually have it on me when I'm carrying a traditional, which is almost always now. The Lionsteel barlow is tits and won't leave my pocket except when I go to work.

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>>35067874

I have a Beer Scout, and a first run #18 coyote as well - great pocket knives. That #65 is really nice though - long, narrow blade - great for packages and stuff.

A sheepsfoot blade on the BS is better for packing tape though.

>>35064652
ESEE 3.

>>35068062
The beer scout has my attention, but I'm not into super thick knives. The barlow I have arriving is already arrived, just at my parents place. Gonna pick it up today, it has the sheepsfoot blade you have on the bs. I'll post pics later with the Lionsteel barlow.

What would you recommend reading/watching to a guy that wants to get from beginner knife sharpening to autistically fantastic sharpening?

>>35068657
seconding this

>>35068657
>>35068661
I would recommend you watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU_qTp3DLM as an excellent starting point, but I am biased, since I made it.

I try to go out of my way in my videos to explain in detail *why* do take the steps I recommend, and how to verify for yourself empirically that they have have worked. I think this makes it much easier to learn than just showing you.

>>35069202
Thanks. I've watched a few sharpening videos and they mostly seem to lack that. It's like
>get this and this and do this
with a dozen videos using a dozen systems. I guess they all tend to work but there's not a lot of theory to judge the materials and methods.

>>35061224
What makes lapping film and balsa wood ideal for stropping? How does it compare to other abrasive (compound, leftover stone swarf, etc.) and stropping material (leather,etc.)?

>>35072732
In general, for using stropping on utility knives where you would like to retain some slicing aggression on the apex, applying abrasive to flexible surfaces like balsa wood or leather runs into a couple of main problems.

Firstly the grit gets embedded some distance into the surface, limiting the scratch depth to which the abrasive can, and secondly the pliability of the surface means that he abrasive in it tends to deflect away from the surface of the apex as you strop, again reducing scratch depth relative to abrasive particle size.

Worse still, these factors operate in a highly non-linear fashion, such that going from 1 micron diamond on a strop to 16 micron diamond on a strop produces a realtively small change in the toothiness of the apex left by stropping on that substance. It's not really until using 30+ micron diamond or CBN at very low force that you can start to get high push cutting ability combined with a decent amount of slicing aggression.

By comparison, lapping films remove the problem of the grit embedding in the surface in a non-linear fashion, and they significantly reduce the ability of the abrasive to be deflected away from the apex as you strop (because the particles cannot sink further into the surface). As a result, you get more slicing aggression from 3u diamond film on balsa than 16 micron diamond grit directly applied to the balsa, while getting similar levels of push cutting sharpness.

Additionally, the lapping film has less of a risk of rounding over the apex as it cannot curl around the apex as much as the balsa with compound on it can.

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>>35068062
Here we go

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>>35028227
>that fucking handle hole

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>>35073639
I don't really "get" the Inkosi. I thought about buying one but ended up liking the Sebenza a lot more, the slabby minimalism of it is the biggest draw of the knife IMO.

>>35073530
nice

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>>35026817

>>35073028
Why balsa and not something like those glass lapping plates?

>>35052287
>Yuropoor
>Amerhaes can't even baton their knives because they only have chinese-tier steel

>>35074341
too bad the HT is absolute dogshit, and Chris is a massive dickwad

>>35075536
Using lapping film on glass lapping plates would be edge-trailing sharpening rather than stropping. To my mind, stropping requires the use of a compressible surface that can deflect around the apex to some non-zero extent.

Balsa is an excellent choice for stropping as it less pliable than leather, and therefore doesn't induce as much of a microscopic convex to the apex of the edge as a more pliable surface would. With too much pressure, however, you can still end up excessively rounding over the apex by inducing too much curvature. Lapping film on balsa mitigates this risk because the film both limits the ability of the balsa to curl around the apex excessively, and reduces the pressure necessary to get the abrasive on the strop to cut to the desired scratch depth.

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>>35076328
Americans generally have access to better steel than most of the world, what's commonly considered mid-tier in most places is commonly considered low-tier here. Not that I'm into this jingoistic nonsense but if you're gonna do it do it right. Hell if anything Americans are known for being overzealous with batoning, it would've been more more accurate to say something like:
>Americans can't go innawoods without breaking their knife unless their knife is a crowbar.

>>35076720
>Americans generally have access to better steel than most of the world, what's commonly considered mid-tier in most places is commonly considered low-tier here
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>35076832
All that this tells me is that you disagree but can't articulate why. You're ostensibly an adult so act like it and use your big boy words.

>>35077035

Nu thread

>>35076354

HT was quietly bumped up to 60-61 a year and a half or so ago, and Chris is no longer with CRK.

Not a Sebenza fan, but I thought you might like to know.