Homemade guns

P.A Luty's Experimental Homemade Firearms

https://youtu.be/sIhGCRIQnCA

>>35022472
Also ATF please don't shoot my dog

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Email me at IDontlikedogs@gmail and we can discuss this further send me pics when your done!!

>>35022487
>>35022523
>>35022560
There is nothing illegal about fabricating your own firearms as long as you don't live in a cuck state.

Go be noguns somewhere else.

>>35022660
I get sick of fuckers thinking the ATF has the time or want to prosecute people on non illegal or grey area things. They're under staffed and under funded already.

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>>35022472
>P.A Luty's Experimental Homemade Firearms
Luty's subgun design is actually pretty shitty when compared to basically anything else. It's about as capable as a normal service pistol (including having similar magazine capacity), except it's slightly larger than an AK pistol.

>>35022994

Luty didn't design it to be good, he designed it so anyone can build it with basic hand tools and parts from a hardware store to show the British government that prohibition was stupid.

For those of us in the Americas, with access to pre made barrels and trigger groups, it's easy to improve upon the model.

>>35023436
And a Mac 11 is just as simple and far more useful, not to mention battle tested.

>>35023436
>he designed it so anyone can build it with basic hand tools and parts from a hardware store to show the British government that prohibition was stupid.
All it does is demonstrate that someone with too much time on their hands can build a subgun that manages to be only about as effective as a double barrel shotgun or a normal service pistol from the last couple decades, but also is harder to feed than those options and would be near impossible to do live fire practice with in most 1st world countries.

>with access to pre made barrels and trigger groups, it's easy to improve upon the model.
Neither of those solves the problem of the gun being fuckhueg, using single stack magazine which limits it to 18 before having an impractically long magazine, and having a very high rate of fire. You would need to pretty much redesign the gun to make it practical.

>>35022994
Yes it's shitty. The idea is that you can build it with sheet metal in your garage with minimal tools. There are NO purpose-built firearms components used in the design. While this may not matter for Amerifats, who have unregulated access to everything but finished receivers, people in other parts of the world have to make due.

The only problem with Luty's designs is this: if firearms components were really so heavily regulated that they'd be impossible to get, why does he believe ammunition would still be easy to collect? I feel like any state that's trying to completely ban firearms would also effectively make ammunition hard to find.

>>35024493
Luty also did a book on making ammo using the same techniques.

>>35024493
>The idea is that you can build it with sheet metal in your garage with minimal tools. There are NO purpose-built firearms components used in the design.
The problem is that I've seen home built double barrel shotguns that do the same, and those would be much easier to feed and to actually practice with (since full auto fire isn't common and will draw attention even in the US, and especially in other countries).

>>35024522
From blanks, and I don't think he covered anything for use in a semi auto.

>>35024584
took me a moment of wtf how would that latch/hinge wonk before realizing its black powder

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We posting professional-tier or 3rd word-tier?

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>>35024654
y not both

>>35024654

that doesnt look home-made in the right sense

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>>35024678
How bout this

>>35023710
why u project so hard

>>35023710
>All it does is demonstrate that someone with too much time on their hands can build a subgun
Yes, that is the point of the book.

>>35022560
kek

>>35024812
Except that's only a good thing if you rely on the preconceived bias that a subgun is better. Otherwise it's basically pointless

>>35024571
Plastics can be melted and molded into some pretty cool shapes for DIY rounds.
The plastic that they make oil cans from is easily melted in an oven...shred it up and use metal pipe section or nipples as molds...

>>35024584
That's failry slick... I bet it would even work with matcheads if you didn't have powder.

This is "the gun that gets you a better gun..."

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>>35024707
how bout this

>>35023670
That's a strange way to type Military Armament Corporation M-10.

>>35025061
I wouldn't fuck with high pressure rounds unless I knew what I was doing. Whoever you mag dump into won't tell the difference.

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>>35024888
But subguns are scary and restricted. It's a point about politics not a practical weapon.

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>>35024654
What would be cool, is a drum mag made out of an old biscuit tin.

>>35024593
Yep, Luty's isn't even a particularly good SMG design with proper parts. Doesn't stop people from building them around the world. Shotguns seem like the obvious choice but wouldn't prove shit since such a safe low pressure type of round.

>>35025704
>Shotguns seem like the obvious choice but wouldn't prove shit since such a safe low pressure type of round.
???

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It's not a gun but it is a homemade weapon, but I never made a prototype.

>>35025729
Everyone knows that a shotgun shell fits in a pipe. Gun complete. There's almost no chance of it fucking you up (behind the barrel) even doing completely stupid shit.

Luty made something that's approximately what the militaries pulled out of their ass in WW2 available to everyone.

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>>35025737

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anyone got examples of improvised rifles?

I know the reason we never see them is the pressures involved make them more difficult to manufacture but i figure /k/ has to have some examples.

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>>35026300
A lot of sniper rifles in the Syrian Civil war are either partially or completely improvised. They apparently originated from anti-aircraft guns being dismantled for the barrels, which were fitted with bolt actions.

>>35026300
Shotguns with slugs are the best equivalent I'd imagine. Muskets would be easy, but nobody wants that.

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>>35026330

So long story short, I have a fuck ton of .22 blanks for use in a nailgun and this seemed like the thread to ask about how the fuck I can weaponize them. Thanks.

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>>35026300
that is super cute

>>35026330
shame about them getting bombed constantly by planes, I guess.

>>35026358

>take a standard straw
>insert blank inside straw
>VIOLA, perfect fit
>Throw blank/straw high into the air and have it land on concrete
>Have shits and giggles
When I worked as a roofer for a few years, we did that shit all the time to scare the fuck out of each other. You'd be walking along below when *BAM*. Right by your damn toe.

>>35025060
imagine being the poor sod assigned this rifle while everyone else gets aks and mosins.

>>35026406
That looks like the Childs Camper Pistol. There are plans for it on the internet and it's designed to be built with hand tools. Same with the Jaco pistols.

>>35025060
>>35026422
Is that a rifle? The barrel looks a bit large and closer to that of a shotgun.

>>35026410
Jesus fucking Christ my neighborhood is going to have some noise complaints tomorrow.

>>35024902
I've thought making plastic cased rounds, with a plastic sabot on a nail or similar would be the way to go with improvised ammo.

A pic on another chan showed a nut and bolt ground to make a mold for casings.

>>35024888
The point of the book isnt that you can totes make an SMG and you should because they're super cool.

The point is that you can, and gun control is therefore stupid because anybody with serious motivation to make a gun can also.

>>35026548
>The point is that you can, and gun control is therefore stupid because anybody with serious motivation to make a gun can also.
Except it's a garbage SMG that's comparable to the shittiest real guns that countries with strict gun control laws allow you to own, you still have to deal with their laws controlling ammunition purchases, and you can't practice with it at all due to the distinct sound that full auto guns make (which would greatly limit the damage someone could actually cause with one). You only solved one part of the problem and did so rather poorly.

>>35026605
Anyone can make one, not just anyone with any machinery skills. People with machinery skills can make them better, but giving it to any fucking idiot in gun control countries makes the whole point moot. It's not a gun, it's a gift of mediocre guns for forever to people who could not have them. Those aren't the kinds of people who would practice.

Actually controlling ammo is orders of magnitude harder than controlling guns which are traditionally limited by specific manufacturing requirements. Instead of 1/10000 people having to be watched and registered it's now 10000/10000 and moot and there's enough ammo that is uncontrolled on the planet to fill every one of those guns anyway.

It doesn't solve YOUR problem but it proves any gun control argument invalid.

>>35026662
>Anyone can make one, not just anyone with any machinery skills.
The same can be said for slambang shotguns and various zip guns. Other guns are still miles better though.

>than controlling guns which are traditionally limited by specific manufacturing requirements
??? It's not like just anyone can make ammo at home.

Also, you left out the problem of not being able to practice, and guns are rather worthless (especially guns that with a high ROF that can only fire full auto) if you can't actually practice with them before you actually need to use them.

>>35026766
None of those things are the exact equivalent to a military weapon that was produced and fielded, the Luty is and yeah they're kinda shit too.

You don't have to make ammo, ammo is there. It's too late to regulate ammo.

Practicing isn't an issue because it isn't about using them at all. You can fire similar NFA guns without owning them and practice there if you're so hung up on it.

>>35025626
this

>>35025626
>>35027136
pan mags made out of legit pans when

>>35026358
there's a yt channel- der fleder maus or something...

22 blanks in a cheap single shot or bolt action rifle, driving 22 cal lead pellets.

could probably cobble together some roughly 22 cal pipe if you prefer 3rd world authenticity.

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>>35024584
>mfw simple, 2 part trigger mechanism that would actually work

>>35024593
>>35024888

>missing literally the whole entire point
"full auto weapons?! but we banned those"
"concealable firepower?! that can't be legal."
etc etc.
i'm sure luty realized making a black pipe 12ga slambang is FAR easier than making a 9mm subgun that actually feeds, but it was as much a political statement as it was a firearm.
>>35026548
this guy gets it

>>35026605
>japan (also a solid 80% of all countries)
>fuckall civilian gun ownership
>hodgepodge of laws mean:
no full auto
no standard cap mags
no cartridges w/ muzzle energy more than .32acp
no this
no that
>muh sound of firing
what is a basement
what is somewhere out of earshot
what is shooting ~5 rounds at 3am and driving away
>>>>>>>what is realizing Luty was literally protesting restrictive gun laws and built a subgun with off the shelf plumbing parts

it's like saying the liberator doesn't compare to a HK .45
fucking duh

>>35026766
>make ammo at home.
>>find shell casings
>>grind up some match heads
>>jam em in
>>???
>>ammo
>practice
implying the USSR didn't send millions of men into ww2 without training and they won the war

>>35027187
>there's a yt channel- der fleder maus or something...
Taofledermaus

So what would be a better design than Lutys? Métrals?

>>35028076
No idea, there's tons of good design options to steal. 3d printer cadfags got plenty of experience with robustness of actions.

>tfw no one will ever make functioning replica EM-2s

>>35028076
There are several factors to consider:

>time, motivational, and budgetary constraints
Obviously the most important, for pretty obvious reasons. These three things will basically define how you go about everything.

>knowledge of engineering principles
If you know or can learn this, you don't have to rely so much on other people's designs.

Likewise, if you don't or are a brainlet, it's best to follow the advice of more knowledgeable people and the plans of a proven design more closely, because you can't easily predict what's safe and what's not.

>knowledge of firearms principles
Pretty similar to the above. If you don't know much about firearms, you need to rely more on what books are available that take a step-by-step approach.

If you know a lot, you can just get a copy of the plans, CAD files, or whatever and get to work. It also means that you have hundreds of different designs to choose from

>level of metalworking skill, or willingness to learn
Similar to firearms principles, it dictates whether you need a step-by-step book, or can look at a design and figure it out by yourself.

>access to tools and machinery, or willingness to build
If you have a mill or can buy/build one, you can do a lot of complicated cuts that are difficult or practically impossible with hand tools.

If you have a 3D printer, you can print off magazines, and don't have to make your own. If you have a scrap metal furnace, you can make some cast components, either using 3D printed designs or make your own templates out of wood, foam, or whatever.

If you have hand tools, you have to rely much more on stuff that is commercially available.

>access to firearms components
This is just a practical consideration.

If you're American, you don't need to make your own barrel. If you're not, you do. If you have access to certain ammunition, you should build with that in mind, etc.

But since you asked, a slam-fired shotgun.

>>35028541
It just always seemed kinda weird to me that the Luty design is so popular, since it was created without much designing or testing. A slamfire is probably only useful if you try to assasinate someone, but I guess then you could use a knife just as well.

>>35028610
>since it was created without much designing or testing
...Hey? He did do a bunch of tests with it, that's how he was caught and arrested.

>>35028610
A) yeah he totally got busted like >>35028615
said. He was just going around shooting his SMGs like it was going out of style and he had already published a book entitled "Fuck The Police, Free SMGs"

B) open bolt SMGs are the norm, not the exception. Basically only H&K actually stopped and decided to make their crazy overcomplicated kraut space magic semiauto systems SMG sized and even that was late into the 80s I think. I think the post-ww2 resurgence of SMG design in the 70s era was like 100% open bolt fired. The ones with telescopic bolts weren't even awful.

>>35028610

>Not knowing the differences between open bolt and closed bolt designs

>>35028625
>>35028637
I know the difference between open and closed bolt guns, and I don't think open bolts are bad. I just meant that his specific design is probably not the best homemade design out there, yet it is so popular. Always seemed weird to me.

>>35022889
Considering they are a useless branch of the government, how is that bad?

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>>35022889
>they are understaffed and under funded

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>>35022374
>>35028076

Here's a MK2 Sheet Metal semi auto pistol build coming along nicely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccy8ix_bptY

>>35029430
I already watched all his videos, very nice channel. This project seems especially well done.

This is another cery interesting concept:
Ammo made with nothing else but match heads

https://youtu.be/8gYPdNAp9Q0

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>>35029430

Plans:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4s6ioR26a2ISkJ3WHJJdWhyVlk

>>35029470
Who made them? Parabellum?

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>>35029430
>>35029470

The kangaroos are starting to produce them.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4370039/weapons-drugs-seized-in-raids-on-hunter-homes-photos/

>>35029491
Seems like the aussies are fans of homemade stuff

https://youtu.be/FH76VoI_hsw

>>35029491
There was also some jeweler guy that was caught in the past few years selling luty-ish guns to bikies.

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>>35024593

Here's a pretty sleek homemade shotgun design that looks factory made yet about the easiest to build after a slammer. Only one spring.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/03/31/building-simple-break-barrel-shotgun-scratch/

Plans:

https://www.scribd.com/document/317081768/Homemade-Break-barrel-Shotgun-Plans-Professor-Parabellum

>>35029544
hah, professor parabellum is a cool dude

>>35022889
i think you mean OVERstaffed and OVERfunded. Any good that the ATF has done couldve been handled better by marshals or the FBI . The ATF shouldn't even exist.

>plz dont shoot my dog.

>>35022374
>https://www.scribd.com/document/317081768/Homemade-Break-barrel-Shotgun-Plans-Professor-Parabellum
Any one know how the legality of this in canada?
I dont wanna buy a gun.

>>35028610

As the other anons stressed, it wasnt made to be practical to use, I'm sure he could have made something better if he felt like it, it was just made to prove the an average person can make a firearm with all the scary features antiguns had banned and that's what made it so popular. Not how useful it was. Antiguns don't understand what makes a gun useful, but they know full auto and high capacity concealable guns are scary and the idea someone can make one themselves is terrifying.

Another thought related to your question. Although not much good for overthrowing a government. A luty or a slam-fire would be great for shooting the unarmed police in Britain trying to bust you, in small gang fights, and in self defense against a single attacker

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>>35029544
>Professor Parabellum
I'll pass.

>>35029801
Plenty good for robbing wherever they keep guns, stores or police armories or something.

>>35029801
You better be a decent shot if you try to use a slamfire in self defense. If you miss you are done for. But I guess it's more effective than a rape whistle.

>>35029801
>but they know full auto and high capacity concealable guns
Except Luty's SMG only hits one of those points. It definitely isn't concealable since it's slightly larger than an AK pistol and 18 round per magazine is shit capacity for a subgun (especially one with as high a ROF as Luty's).

>>35029884
>trying to rob a police station with a Luty SMG
Even with several guys you'd fail extremely hard.

>>35029884
>robbing a police armory

I am not an expert on robberies, but this sounds like a good way to land in jail/ catch a bullet

>>35029898
Nah, open bolt SMGs are perfectly reasonable to burst with if you've got a shoulder stock on them which I don't think is standard since they're crime guns.

>>35029911
>>35029912
Yeah obviously you'd have a lot of guys and not like a police station. Like the long term evidence storage warehouses, or remote national guard/wherever military places. Quick smash & grab. It was kind of a thing in the great depression.

>land in jail/catch a bullet
yeah, thats what a luty's going to get you in most countries anyway.

>>35029947
>Nah, open bolt SMGs are perfectly reasonable to burst with if you've got a shoulder stock on them which I don't think is standard since they're crime guns.
I was talking about a slamfire single shot "shotgun"

>>35029969
Oh hahaha, yeah... that's a completely different story. Some other guy was referring to open bolt SMGs as slamfires and I thought that was following the same line. The four winds shit.... maybe you could rob a liquor store?

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.45 scrap metal MAC 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zutRwmS4a2Y

https://www.scribd.com/doc/252060906/The-MAC-10-Construction-Guide-Practical-Scrap-Metal-Small-Arms-Vol-6

>>35029430
>Glock Perfection

>>35030039
Kek

>>35030022
How is this guy not in prison yet?

>>35030080
the cops there are probly also on meth

>>35030098
That guy really could be a meth head

>>35030022
Impressive but he's pretty fucking annoying to listen to

>>35026605

He also published books on making ammunition at home too. There is absolutely nothing to stop anyone from driving out into the countryside and practicing. Even in Britain there's plenty of open spaces you can go where noone will notice you.

>>35030172
I am very sceptical his ammo would run in an automatic gun

>>35029911

Britain is a cooler climate you can get away with wearing a coat and it would be easier than a rifle to do a drive by with. 18 rounds in a single mag is a lot for them. Youre going back to practicality, they don't think like us, they see a small machine gun someone made themselves with a big scary magazine hanging out.

>>35029993

I'm presumably that guy, I was speaking of slam fires as the traditional single shot pipe shotgun though. I was trying to say either would be very effective against the people you're probably shooting at over there

slam fires are for white trash yankees who dont understand anything about anything

>>35030703
>18 rounds in a single mag is a lot for them.
considering most of the uk's gun culture are people with shotguns and deer rifles, yeah, that does sound like a lot

imagine a shotgun with an 18 round tube

>>35030172
This: >>35030327, I can definitely see a problem with case separation in any auto loading design.

>>35030703
>Britain is a cooler climate you can get away with wearing a coat
You aren't going to have a bit of a problem concealing that thing if its loaded, unless you use a shorter 8 or 9 round magazine.

>>35030740
>imagine a shotgun with an 18 round tube
That's not how this works. 18 rounds of 9mm gives you the same number of similar diameter projectiles down range as two 12 gauge 9 pellet 00 buck shells. It's not like Luty's SMG fires slow enough for you to actually get only one or two off at a time, especially not without practice.

>>35025061

If you want to get technical, it was the "Ingram Model 10" on all of the original paperwork. M.A.C. Simply licensed production rights to the design, like how P.O.F. makes a G3 clone under license with their own designation.

>>35029862
I don't know why isn't this thread already full of people telling everyone that he intentionally designs his guns to blow up, so Brazillian gangs will blow themselves up while trying to build them in their garages.

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>>35022374
hey OP thats my kit!

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>>35029648
We're not allowed to build guns in Canada. Oh sure, sub-PAL powered airguns are perfectly fine, but even airguns shooting over 5.7joules + >500fps are forbidden without a PAL, and firearms manufacturing of any kind but black powder/flintlock types clearly defined under the act is strictly for licensed manufacturers.

That said... here's the latest .22lr takedown rifle I've made, three before it not being quite so slick. Next up is a suppressed cane in .22lr, though I'm a bit stuck on the trigger/sear mechanism just now. Once I have a dream or brilliant wakeful moment and resolve that it'll be finished. They can suck my nuts, I'ma build things because it's fun, a good challenge, and I'm not even remotely interested in committing any crimes using them. Just plinking.

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>>35031197
assembled

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>>35031197
>>35031214
based jackal bro

>>35031197
manufacturing for personal use is fine in Canada, with the appropriate PAL
https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/1w8rcy/some_helpful_info_regarding_homemademachined/
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/reg-enr-eng.htm#c14

>>35031422
Oh my, I stand corrected, thank you lawyer anon.

>>35029862
>not drilling a hole in the rear of the bolt and installing some Tungsten crank balancing slugs to increase the weight

lame

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>>35026300

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>tfw can't weld
>tfw can't make any cool things

>>35031051
How do you build one? I'm about to order one even though I'm over my head. Next to no experience with this kind of stuff but I have some relatives that would be willing to help

>convert FCG to semi
Seems easy
>convert to striker fired
pay someone to do
>mill reciever blank
Uhhhhhhhhh
>mill down a jig for the reciever
Ummmm
>reweld reciever
Shieeet

Should I buy it anyway and try to figure it out? Should I use a 50% tube or just use cut sections? Am I too stupid to accomplish this task?

$90 for a kit is hard to pass up.

>>35033482
Learn, then you can!

>>35031197
I know you said plinking, but what were your other design criteria?

>>35033482
mig welding (badly) is about as hard as using a hot glue gun. I work at a shop on a college campus and teach 18yr olds to weld all the time. With a dozen or so hours of practice anyone with half a brain can lay a bead

>>35030022
>Finger on trigger.
>Proceeds to dump a full magazine onto the table.
>With what is almost certainly an automatic firearm.

Props for the fabrications skills but christ that's awful.

>>35034051
Light weight - comes to 32oz exactly with one in the chamber and 11 in the stock pipe - so that it's almost silly not to throw it in the backpack for a hike.

Simple design, very little to go wrong - in this it's a success in that the only weakness is extraction. I have to try twice to extract subsonic brass about every third or fourth shot, and occasionally have to try three times. I'll eventually figure out either a better-shaped extractor or a secondary extractor to mend this. Otherwise function is 100% reliable for the hundreds of rounds I've put through it.

Quiet: with a bunch of K baffles up front it's quiet provided I stick with subsonics of reliably lower velocity. Remington subs tend to jump over the limit quite often, going BANG a bit. Annoying. But with CCI Standard it's fine, same with Fiocchi or anything else decent.

Adequate accuracy; it's only a 10" barrel, and only barrel liner with JB Weld holding a carbon tube over that for stiffness, so I didn't expect it to be amazingly accurate. But it's pop can accurate to 40 metres, which is good enough for some fun. Wouldn't want to depend on it for small game though, except really close up. I use a good air rifle for that anyway.

Easy to take down or assemble quickly: My record for assembly, cocked and ready to fire, is 42 seconds. Takedown and put away in its tool roll is about 45 seconds. More typically it takes just under a minute either way.

That's about it. Anything else specifically you wished to know about criteria?

>>35035135
Different anon- how did you get started? Do you have any tips for someone else who's just getting started? If you don't mind me asking, how much does your hobby cost you?

>>35024850
that thing looks so out of place with all those jap styled overlay graphics...

>>35035181
I've been making stuff all my life, so general skills with tinkering I guess. Did a short stint in a machine shop in the 80's. Some bike mechanic years. Curiosity more than anything. I started wanting a rimfire takedown rifle when I saw Day of the Jackal as a kid. Couldn't have solved all the problems assembling such a thing with fewer skills, but I've no specific training as a gunsmith.

Guess I'd suggest reading up on gunsmithing a bit. That's something I've never had the patience to do. I tend to just start with one or two parts I want to use then develop a gun from there, improvising solutions as I progress. Gets me painted into a few corners, but I find my way through somehow.

>>35033309
This one is by far the coolest.

>>35030327
it doesn't run "well", but it goes bang
you use a blank as the base (even in shithole Euro countries, blanks are readily available) and add brass tubing and circlips as necessary and just sorta use whatever is handy as the bullet and you've got ammo

if you go out into the countryside to testfire, you can tune the gun to run with enough reliability to be dangerous

the point of the Luty isn't to make a good gun, it's to make a gun that is dangerous and can appear from any moderately well equipped home workshop
a drill press is the most complicated machine mecessary

>>35037322
The point Luty was making was primarily political in nature, not even really about guns if one gets into the philosophical side of it. He was attempting to demonstrate that oppression can not prevail over free will and ingenuity. An easy platform with which to illustrate this point is firearms restrictions. One could make a similar point with knife control laws such as are now in place in the UK - stabbings and slashings continue with enthusiasm, in spite of bureaucratic attempts to limit knife access. As Prince Charles stated so eloquently after the Dunblane massacre triggered a backlash in parliament and the extinguishing of people's right to own pistols, "what's next, cricket bats?" I don't recall his words exactly but that was the meat of it. And of course the odd Chinese madman has demonstrated the same point amply by using a meat cleaver or a small axe to murder multitudes of children and adults. Firearms restrictions are pointless, as those who want firearms will have them and those who commit crimes with firearms will find ways to commit those crimes, with or without firearms.

But of course those in power do not suffer criticism, especially not when it involves embarrassment to their fragile delusions and threatens to kick the stilts out from under the bastards. Luty did just that with his publications. He proved that what the politicians and police wanted banned could easily and cheaply be made available, even in a small garage workshop with cheap old tools. They couldn't have that, so they popped him into prison. Silencing those who tell the truth is a longstanding tradition with those in power...

>>35031197
Can we see how you built the suppressor? Maybe in another thread?

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>>35022889
I agree my fellow citizen, the hard working handsome men of the ATF don't have time to go after small fries like us! Lets go back to posting our homemade firearms I'd also really like to see some homemade explosive devises.

>>35038003
How the fuck does that thing work? How do you get 3 shells into it?

>>35038135
>How the fuck does that thing work?
Isn't it obvious? Apply pressure to top tube, top tube drives shell onto firing pin in bottom tube.

>How do you get 3 shells into it?
...you don't...

>>35038003
insanely simple

>>35024493
Luty also made s book regarding ammunition making

>>35024593
Not just blanks, but also brass pipes
http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/EHF_Handgun_Ammo_Book.pdf

>>35024707
>Mosinish bolt action based off the BAR's aesthetic
That's pretty cool

>>35030946
They're retards that spout outdated info. Luty made a second book on the MAC 10/11 with the proper bolt weights

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>>35038259
>Luty
Woops, meant Professor Parabellum. Here's a .45 ACP AK smg

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>>35038316

>>35038304
that is kind of beautifully and kind of hideous.

>>35038316
TИК-9 from Tula Engineering Corporation (Tyльcкaя инжeнepнaя кopпopaция)

>>35038337
Tomyevitch "Tomei" Gun.

>>35029947
>smash and grab a NG/reserve/"remote military base" armory

Dude you're retarded. Go ahead and try to break into my reserve units armory. Yeah, no ones going to shoot you because there will only be like two people on duty in the facility, but even if you killed them before they called you in, the door alarm would go off. Then you'd have to break through the secondary entrance door to the vault face. Oh shit, another alarm. Then you'd have to find some way to break through the massive fucking vault door. Oh man you actually did it? Now break though each unit cage, and then break through each weapon rack.

Oh what's that? There are MP units at bases? MP's that have handy access to M4's and shit? That will be at and all around the facility before you even get through the vault door?

And my base is pretty much non-existent.

TL;DR- if you have a fantasy of breaking into a military armory and not getting caught or more likely shot, good luck with that.

No, seriously. What is the best way to make your homemade firearms?

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>>35038390
You forgot your obligatory image, sir

>>35038387
depends on the country
look up Portugal, they got cleaned up a couple of months ago and nobody still knows who did it or where that stuff went

>>35038395
Shhh! I am undercover right now.

>>35029544

thnx anon.

If you are US citizen and wish to make a firearm (and your state allows it) start with shotguns. Significantly lower pressure ,better terminal ballistics, no need for rifling, rim makes headspacing easy.

>>35038390
>What is the best way to make your homemade firearms?
Legally.

>>35038419
Whatever way you normally make them. And do you have a dog?

>>35038406
I was making my commentary off the idea that we were talking about the US military, or some other larger, more competent military (as insinuated by him mentioning during the depression).

Yeah it probably would pretty easy to clear out an incompetent military systems base.

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>>35038409
Oh shit you're right, here, the #1 undercover disguise for cambodian throat singing forums

>>35038437
Dammit! They recognized me again. I should have used a camouflage keyboard.

>>35038427
What about equipment going missing? There was that other thread about $1 million of equipment being sold on eBay, how rigorous is stocktaking at the average base?

I know here in Australia, 10 M72s went missing over a period of two years, and they haven't recovered them all yet. There's also been thefts of some demolition explosives and a lot of old rifles. Almost all of that was done by people working on the base though.

>>35038486
I'd be willing to bet quite a few parts get replaced before it's strictly necessary.

>>35038509
take a part here, there, etc, etc, etc

>>35038486
Never had a theft of a rifle or weapon in my knowledge during my time in the army. I'm sure that people have gotten smoke grenades or possibly explosives via fucked up paperwork, or recieving more equipment than there was any record of them having gotten, but never a rifle. Losing shit like a rifle shuts down the entire base in question. No one can leave until it is accounted for.

>>35038513
Unless the parts are being replaced by the same parts, not happening. Weapons are accounted for in full, even for destruction.

>>35030022
Does anyone know of a way to make it semi-automatic instead? Would be kinda fun to put together if I didn't have to worry about my dog.

>>35038548
Adapt the internals of some semi-auto gun plans to the inside dimensions of this gun.

>>35022889
Uhh well, you're completely right for the wrong reason.

Because the ATF has

>A Multi-million dollar illegal slush fund from tobacco smuggling.
So yeah, the ATF is underfunded by the governemnt because they will steal and smuggle to bankroll themselves.

>Destroyed families over the length of a metal tube
Yeah, They are responsible for the deaths of "law breakers" by no-knock door kickin' and dog shootin' warrant serving that is incredibly excessive.

>Actively sabotaging seized 'evidence' to fit their narrative.
Literally fucking with and manipulating a firearm to be "full auto" because they arrested a guy for it. So making a crime and the evidence to achieve a conviction because they felt like it.

>Entrapped, abused and convicted the mentally handicapped.
Yup.

>Violated the law by knowingly and illegally selling guns to cartel members who then murder citizens and law enforcement with said guns.
Fucking for real...

Yet, we have seen exactly ZERO convictions for any of this misconduct while I have to wait almost a fucking year and pay $200 for shortening a firearm because of nomenclature while the functional equivalent is A-Ok, and paying additional fees and wait time for fucking safety equipment is fucking outrageous.

They won't prosecute you for non illegal and grey area things... they will just fabricate evidence or kill you, seize your property, or pay for action against you with criminally obtained money..... because all of this has literally happened.

>>35033849

I am in the process of building one right now.

http://re-mil.com/parts/cz-parts.html For semi-auto receiver tubes, new front trunnion, bolt conversions to semi-auto striker fired, and barrels for both pistol and rifle builds.

Hardest part is honestly cutting the components (pistol grip mag housing, rear sight, stock attachment block) off of the scrap parts kit tube. The spot welds are a bitch.

Trigger group conversion is simple, since the SA-26 has a progressive trigger. Dremel off the finger from the trigger, and the bottom of the "C" shaped cutout on the sear.

After that, you just have to dremel or mill out the semi-auto receiver blank, then weld it up.

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>>35038661

Forgot to attach picture. Cutting and shaping the SA-26 charging handle slot ramp (brings the handle up when inserting the bolt) was also a pain, but w/e.

>>35029544
I thought it wasn't safe to make tho

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>>35037605
Don't have any pics of those baffles, but this set for a pistol suppressor is about the same. 7075 aluminum turned on a tiny TAIG lathe.

>>35038680
Is that an interrupted thread for fast mounting of something or other at the front of the tube?

>>35040675
Nice yoyos friend!

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>>35041299
My first few dozen weren't so nice. Made them too long, as many people do, but found them rather loud. As yoyos go, that is. These are about 0.55" front to back, 0.865" OD to slip nicely into the 6061 1" OD tubing that Home Depot supplies. Some HD tubes are a bit fatter wall, so the OD on the yoyos has to drop to around 0.855", and that was the case with the rifle can.

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>>35038446

>>35033309
Looks like the Laptop Gun from Perfect Dark.

>>35030327
>muh moving goal posts

>>35022889
Sounds like something an alphabet would say...

>>35031197

Bullshit anon. It's perfectly legal to build your own funs in Canada as long as you have a PAL/RPAL.

>>35043867
What is a Luty gun good for if you have no ammo that will run in it?

>>35043992
>not boiling your own piss and making gunpowder
Sure is fucking summer in here

>>35044046
>well of course black powder is perfectly suited for automatic weapons, especially with a fire rate of 1.800 rpm

>>35044046
Can not find anything on the subject

>>35026605
Yeah, nah. You're a cunt. Luty SMGs keep popping up in Australia and in other countries on a regular basis.
Luty wrote the book to prove that it's impossible to stop people from acquring guns unless you ban metalworking tools.

FYI he also wrote a little guide on how to make a semiauto sear mechanism for the gun. Whining about the fire rate is pointless.

>>35044141
Not him, but I assume he is talking about something like this

https://youtu.be/8wW5KR1pDxs

>>35029476
Yep.

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>>35030022
Holy shit. This guy is awesome. Shine on, you crazy diamond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHZSKgsX5Vc

>I threaded the mini mac
>the "thread" is a fucking nut welded onto the end of the barrel

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>>35029430
>>35029470
Parabellum and Luty are my heroes.
I hope that Parabellum can come up with a good design for a pump or bolt action shotgun. Shotgun shells are the easiest things to fabricate from scratch. I think a super ghetto pump gun would be the most practical repeating weapon for someone living in a nogunz country.

I have been trying to design something myself, but I don't have any engineering or metalworking experience so I'm not really getting anywhere.

I've made a couple slam fire shotguns but those are easy. If i want to make a black powder rifle what pipe do i use? OR is it even safe to use a pipe?

>>35044324
Black powder is lower pressure than smokeless. Regular heavy duty water/gas pipe will suffice. Just be careful and start with a smaller powder charge before you step it up.
I'd advise you to make a dummy pipe and load it with triple the charge you expect to use. If the pipe survives that a few times, then you're good to go. That's how they used to test blackpowder guns back in the day.

>>35044279
>dat bullet hose
Fascinated by the simplicity but I doubt it works very well. Either way it is interesting from a mechanical standpoint.

>>35044409
If it's fit properly it probably works okay. The thing that fucks up most blowback SMGs is the magazine. If it's not made well then there will be a lot of FTFs.

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>>35044300
1000 hours in photoshop

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>>35031197
Wrong. It's legal to build. In fact, the first fully 3D printed rifle is Canadian.

>>35044377
Cool thanks Anon

>>35044740
or just make the camming piece separate. so the whole bolt doesnt have to move.

>>35044740
Drawing up a crude design is one thing. The import part is making it so someone with an angle grinder and a drill press can make it out of hardware store shit.

>>35043922
I know now, thanks to lawyer-anon who provided informative links. My bad. I apologised. But of course not perfectly legal to make a takedown .22lr rifle with a 10" barrel and a suppressor... that sort of fun is frowned upon. Though it's surprising how many shooters actually enjoy similar funs.

>>35045005
Actually, rimfire rifles don't have a barrel length requirement. Anything over 26" overall length when in firing condition (with stock folded/collapsed if applicable) is non-restricted (Assuming it's not full auto or some shit). The suppressor is verboten, though.

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>>35025255
>australian Mac 10
>doesn't feed from the top

>>35047326
It amuses me that the australian subgun (the owen) feeds from the top

>>35047401
10/10

>>35046821
Well without the can mounted the bloody thing's just too loud. And it'll fire without the stock, with an OAL of 13", so... a gripless pistol?

>>35048219
Watch it, I'm walking here!

>>35047401
>>35047447
video with sound
https://youtu.be/w1QNG8lnxDs

>>35029595
Dude last thing we want is the incompetent atf being replaced by the more competent FBI ...

>>35024571
Would this require a tax stamp?

>>35049905
it's technically a flare gun, would you get your dog shot for putting a stock on your flare gun?

>>35047401
OI! DESE STUPID SAND UMIES AIN'T EVEN CLOSE TO PROPAH DAKKA

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>>35029491
>>35029470
>>35029430

I love how these look like those crappy gta 3 1911 models.

>>35044300
A slam-pump-action shotty could be an interesting idea, like press trigger to have firing pin protrude and just cycle the gun to fire. Unsafe as fuck tho

>>35044279
/ourMick/

>>35044084
https://youtu.be/KfzQ4uKvE7c

Like he said, you're a retarded newfag.

>>35029884
You're better off going for a school; plenty of schools in the UK have about 50 or so L98A2 Cadet GP rifles on the premises.

>>35037498
It was Prince Phillip not Charles but the point stands.

>>35052116
I mean he's not completely retarded, even in Hickock's video with just 14 rounds the barrel was heavily fouled with carbon and the casings were barely getting ejected, although that's not to say you couldn't engineer around it if you were to make a purpose built gun, I honestly think reliable and stable primers would be a bigger challenge, even in Luty's handbooks he just salvages primers from blanks.

>>35052664
It works better in some designs than others.
https://youtu.be/t6xiI303nfQ

>>35052681
Yeah, it would work well in shotguns just because they're an inherently low pressure cartage and most of them have pretty low tolerances anyway, older black powder rifles were north of .50 cal for good reason, but if you tried using actual BP ,(not something like Pyrodex), in a 5.56 or similar intermediate rifle casing you'd be apt to run into some barrel obstruction issues.

>>35052664
Ground up match heads, and scraped off match box striker mixed together, hombre. Test different ratios of said ingredients until reliable.

>>35052757
I've seen fired primers that are reloaded with match heads, but replicating a modern primer cup and anvil would be difficult without a press, you'd probably be better off using some sort of percussion cap like setup with either match heads or mercury fulminate.

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>>35025626
interested

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Hey, some hemp twine and a pipe visible on a rebel weapon in the opening scene of the latest Killjoys episode.

>>35053243
Or maybe just duct tape...