USAF PEO confirms Trump is a master negotiator

>>35016756
B-b-but the F-35 will LITERALLY bankrupt America. We. Need. That. Money. For. Welfare.

>>35016756
>guy shows up to the party late and takes all the credit
Interesting

>>35016843
>Interesting
is it really? hes done this his entire life

>>35016843
Sometimes that is needed in negotiations.

i'm too lazy to sit through this video. what price did they settle on?

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>>35016843
>>35016847
What are you women crying about? Did you even watch the interview? It was what the Lt. General said. Go change your tampons.

>>35016914
They probably bought Chinese parts.

>>35016914
25 million per plane

>>35016927
>Did you even watch the interview?
no

>>35016756
>750,000,000 in savings for lot 10
How many planes is in the lot?

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>>35016756
thank god for this man

>>35017053
are*
Insomnia is a bitch.

>>35017053
>>35017057
90 aircraft.

But every LRIP so far has had a major reduction in price. This isn't any new.

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>>35017067
>But every LRIP so far has had a major reduction in price. This isn't any new.
>doesn't watch video
>lies about the topic
Watch the interview you fucking commie, he addressed that very thing in the first couple minutes. Trump negotiated savings far beyond what was expected via increased production rates.

>>35016756

>Donald Trump shows many signs of degenerative dementia. A 70% reduction in vocabulary suggest he is not capable of understanding where he is or what he is doing.

He is literally retarded and would not be allowed to renew a driver's license.

>>35017092
>Watch the interview you fucking commie, he addressed that very thing in the first couple minutes. Trump negotiated savings far beyond what was expected via increased production rates.

Yes, he also mentions how the "new amazing price" is exactly what analyists expected it to be. (not that he actually mentions what this new price is, so conveniently I can't check)

>>35017092
>Watch the interview you fucking commie
make me

>>35017111
>Yes, he also mentions how the "new amazing price" is exactly what analyists expected it to be.
that's exactly the opposite of what he said, you faggot

>>35017139
Thats what the interviewer says, rather. But I can't actually prove or disprove that because they haven't given any solid numbers just POTUS dicksucking

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>>35017152
you fucking little bitch

>>35017164
what he says afterwards is "4 or 5 months ago". But still, have no idea what that number is. Don't give a shit what he thinks about it.

>>35017173
I hope all you fuckers end up in camps.

>>35017205
>how dare you want to base something in hard numbers and facts, the word of someone heavily involved in the MIC is all you need for how good the MIC is doing!

Uh huh, tell me more.

>>35017205
someone's mad

>>35017098
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/02/22/donald-trump-analysis-dilbert-creator-scott-adams-lead-intv.cnn

It's deliberate.

>>35016927
What's to watch? Drumphf getting credit for giving lockheed some tax incentives?

>>35017056
>thank god for a man that has literally been cucked

>>35017092
so he basically promised to buy fucktons more of the crap even tho it's unproven in battle and we have little idea about the upkeep costs long term, to push down the unit price?

master negotiator indeed i really wish to do business with him now. he could buy a lot of my shit.

>>35017331
>Drumphf

I bet you cry when people call out Jon Stewart for legally changing his kike name from Leobiwitz.

>>35017363
You seem upset by people that state facts anon. Who hurt you?

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>>35016756
>master negotiator
>can't pass bamacare replacement with senate majority
>plan to restrict trans serving in military barely discussed with military reps and basically shelved by Mattis twice in a row

top lel

>>35017295
>I'm only pretending to be retarded

>>35017496
It worked.

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>bogdan

>>35016756
Sounds like POTUS dick sucking. Trump has proven he can't negotiate out of a paper bag so far.

Lockheed is playing the game.

Why is it still called LRIP? FOC is being achieved next month with 3F and LRIP 11 will total something like 140 F-35s. That's more fighters than most European nations order in 20 years.

>>35017487

>can't pass ACA replacement because McCain is a gigantic faggot who stood in the way yet complained about it for 8 years
>Mattis isn't allowing NEW tranny recruits, and all current ones are subject to review before deployment

It's like you've never read anything, ever.

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>>35018640
>literally one old af man with brain cancer is preventing obamacrap from being replaced

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>>35016841
We need mo money fo dem programz n sheeiit

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>>35018640
>Shits on McCain for getting captured in the war he faked bone spurs to avoid.
>McCain puts last nail into the coffin of the fucking mess that was the third repeal bill attempt.

Best timeline.

>>35020468
This nigga knows.

hello, just a reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozqRR6dW3vE

>>35020468
And gets brain cancer

>>35020468
fuck mccain
hypocritical neo-con amnesty pushing traitor
He's got fucking braincancer and he still won't resign from the senate
Evil piece of shit
Trump even supported him in his reelection
Comes from a family of traitors

>>35020468

You forgot the part where he sold out his comrades while staying in the Hanoi Hilton, and got 134 men killed on the Forrestal.

Also
>Vietnam is a shit war REEEE
>People who burned their draft cards were heroes
>WTF DRUMPF AVOIDED VIETNAM TRAITOR RUSSIAN SPY REEEEE

Which is it retards?

>>35021298
this
Trump was a mastermind for avoiding the shit show that was vietnam

>>35021241
>being this butthurt
>thinking that going against Trump makes you a traitor
Sounds like you got two problems, son.

>>35021354
>thinking that going against Trump makes you a traitor
thats true tho

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>>35021241

>Comes from a family of traitors

His father and grandfather were admirals.
How the fuck were they "traitors"?

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>>35021298
>McCain caused the USS Forest Fire disaster.

Which has only been proved untrue about 200 times in the 50 years since the accident, and was dredged up once again to discredit him further thanks to the weapons grade butthurt over his no vote.

>he sold out his comrades while staying in the Hanoi Hilton

As did many, US pilots who were tortured there. That's what torture does. But I guess only McCain is bad for doing it because he's a globalist turncoat faggot. I don't respect draft dodgers, even if I may agree to their reasons to objecting to a war. I respect the men who went anyway regardless of their convictions out of a sense of duty, or stood up for what they believed and took the punishment for refusing. I don't have much respect for a gobshite orange chickehhawk who used daddies money to pay a doctor to say he had boneitis while playing football at a semi-pro level.

>>35021241
his entire life story is a series of terrible decisions, one after another

>>35021475
Didn't sick enough Trump dick from beyond the grave, obviously. This t_d posting is embarrassing, as is sticking up for someone that has stabbed your interests in the back (avoiding pointless overseas conflict, better healthcare, saying no to Israel) and dumped people loyal to him since the beginning (Bannon, Sessions). Hard to imagine being more cucked.

Merit-based immigration standards and a German-style focus on apprenticeships seem pretty good though.

>>35016756
This could have been a good thread about the MIC folding and the US returning to large procurement batches instead of small high-cost projects with little results as have been prevalent since 1990.

>>35021534
he was retarded for going into combat flight operations knowing what a high value prisoner he'd be for propaganda and leverage over fellow POWs.

He got beat like a rented mule that's for sure, but his presence didn't make the other POWs lives easier.

>>35020083
Put that way, I now have a new sense of respect for McCain.

>>35021354
>thinking that going against Trump makes you a traitor

Creating a public hysteria with the intention of undermining the core process of government, because you team lost an election, makes you one.

>>35016841
Well you can simplify and say that but it just isn't true. Sorry your favorite general and his staff didn't get his Taiwanese ladyboy excursion this year from Lockheed.

>>35021625
That non sequitur.

>>35021584
And if he flew a nice safe desk through Vietnam, we'd be currently shitting on him for not actually serving. It's no different to those who shit on Bush senior, saying her bailed too early from his Avenger over Cannibal Nip Island. It's political smearing of people who were just doing their bit.

>>35017520
can I get a quick rundown on this guy?

>>35021624
>>>>r/latestagecapitalism

>>35021534
Boo hoo Trump didn't want to get his dick shot off for nothing so he avoided a pointless war like many others. Big fucking deal.

>>35016756
will this be on clinton news network?

>>35016756
>Lt. Gen. Bogdan

can I get a quick rundown on this guy?

>>35021820
no they have to keep up the narrative that Trump is an idiot

>>35018640
McCain killed it because he wanted a bipartisan health care bill.

Which goes to show how out of touch he is, because bipartisanship is all but dead.

>>35021850
cant wait till the old timers are gone and we get some free market shit
fucking obamacare

>>35016756
Trump supporters get the fuck off /k/. This is a progressive board.

>>35017383
>facts
POTUS D.J. Trump was born a Trump. His ancestors changed the name when they immigrated (legally) to the USofA.
John Stewart changed his name before going into showbiz.

>>35017363
Fuck off RACIST

You fucking Nazi faggots are ruining this baord with your racism. I've had it!!! Fuck your god emperor trump

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>>35016954
>>35016914

no it's not. it's about $25-35 million per plane to mod post lot 10 f35s to lot 10 standard. a brand new lot 10 f35 is $95 million without the engine down from $98 million.

>>35016932
they ARE already using chinese parts because jewheel sub-sub-sub contracted to some chinese factory to assamble 90% of the parts and sent to MURRICA to just put the lables on because putting the stickers on the parts counts as work under then trade laws

>>35021828
Brought in to get the program on track and quit the prices raising. He did a damn good job. Every time I've seen him speak he seemed like a good dude who got it.

Go argue on /pol/ dumbfucks, the majority of this shit isn't weapons related.

>>35022130
liberal detected

>>35021986
I think it also depends on the country. Israel said their latest block buy of 17 planes is their first to drop below $100 million per plane

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>>35022168
Ah yes clearly I'm a liberal because I don't like faggots from /r/the_donald shitting up the board.

Kill yourself

>>35022186
careful buddy, if you include your pic in the screenshot for your reddit buddies they might get triggered and ban you

>>35021809
>Trump didn't want to get his dick shot off
Bone spurs, anon.

>>35021584
>>35021679
It's a lose-lose situation. If he fights, he gets criticized for being a high value target, if he doesn't he gets attacked for being a coward.

>>35016847
Fuck you

>>35022010
Does lying on the internet make your day?

>>35016756
3 card Monty folks

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>>35017331

>>35021475
[citation needed]

seriously where the fuck do we find this information? All Fred Trump did in WW2 was build goddamn houses.

>>35017295
Why give a fuck what someone is actually saying when he's so PERSUASIVE?

>>35021298
>>Vietnam is a shit war REEEE
>>People who burned their draft cards were heroes
>>WTF DRUMPF AVOIDED VIETNAM TRAITOR RUSSIAN SPY REEEEE
>Which is it retards?

Do you think that everyone who disagrees with you in life is a monolithic bloc, and disagrees with you for the exact same reasons? Do you think they automatically hold all the other political positions you find objectionable?

You're the goddamn retard, it's no wonder your opinions are so shit.

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>>35021412

>What is democracy

Screw your head on right.

>>35016841
Correction; We need that money for the wall.
Gib income taxes, goy.

>>35021412
By that logic, going against Obama made you a traitor. Or is it only traitorous to go against -your- favored party?

>>35024925
In the end, people always get the government they deserve.

>>35021534
You are a fuck tard if you don't understand what happened on the ship. Multiple people confirmed song bird was "show boating" with an improper startup procedure. Fuck you for not knowing what you're talking about.

>>35017112
>muh sovereign citizen

>>35018518
lockheed been around this nlock before and will still be getting fat and sassy long after trump is gone
que sera sera

How are you idiots so uninformed that you think Trump dodged the draft somehow?
His draft number was never called up.
You can look this information up in like 30 seconds.

>>35021536
>his entire life story is a series of terrible decisions, one after another

stop talking about me.
this thread is supposed to be about trumps F35s

>>35025188
i dont deserve any of this shit. i need true and absolute freedom and liberty

>>35025127
obama pardoned a shit load of drug offenders and traitors of course going against him doesnt make me a traitor you retard

>>35025475
So yes, it's only traitorous to go against your preferred party.

>>35021844
>Cost reductions are right on track with what Lockheed have been predicting since like 2012
>If you actually followed the program you would know this
>Program is just sucking off Donald's ego because that's literally the only thing he cares about.

>>35025345
A people is more than one person.

>>35025692
>daily reminder that most of the world realizes the President is this easy to manipulate
What a time to be alive!

>>35017223
>>35017205


Lol I wasn't aware Trump posted on /k/.

It must be hard to type on a normal size keyboard with those babby hands.

All he really had to do was play the idiot and say "durr maybe we should just scrap the entire program lol" prior to negotiations and watch as the poo started leaking from Lockheed Martin ass hole.

It was quite brilliant on Trump's part. Trump 2020.

>>35018640
And now that trump has shit on him repeatedly since then he's gonna go out of his way to shut everything else down

>>35016843
Just like Reagan and the US hostage crisis in Iran.

>>35016756
>F-35
Do people really still defend this piece of shit?

>>35027012
So? Who the fuck cares about Reagan?

This is just a deflection because you think conservatives and Republicans will either go "wtf I luv Trump now" or flip their shit because you talked shit about a senile washed up actor who stumbled his way into the presidency.

>>35020083
It's way more complicated then that. The conservative Republicans want pretty mild reforms and changes, while the few Libertarians want full repeal. The Tea Party caucus wants replacement that removes Medicare expansion, but directly gives states more money and replaces Medicare with a voucher program.

Within the party, those are irreconcilable. The second problem is that the ACA's become popular and every compromise bill they might be able to move forward with would result in higher cost and worse care, and 2018 is closer by the day. Nobody wants to vote for it.

To get the "skinny repeal" to 48 they had to promise people that it wasn't going to be passed and would be fixed in the House.

>>35027142
>To get the "skinny repeal" to 48 they had to promise people that it wasn't going to be passed and would be fixed in the House.

It was totally going to be passed as written by the House. McCain knew Ryan was bullshitting him.

>>35020468
Mc Cain is a traitor same with Ryan.

>>35025215
Which even if it happened had jack shit to do with the fire, which was caused by a different aircraft accidentally firing a Zuni rocket into the Skyhawk in front of McCain's. McCain's "hot start" most likely couldn't even have ignited spilt fuel (which ignited immediately as the rocket exploded) as his aircrafts position had him with his tailpipe actually extended way over the edge of the deck.

I guess you're going to tell me next that McCain was a deep cover VC infiltrator who sabotaged the electrics to make the Zuni fire.

>>35025307
You can also look up that while trump was under college deferment pre 1968, he was listed as the highest bracket of fitness for service (gifted sportsman, no shit). When he left college in 1968, he immediately gets downgraded to the lowest medical draft rating, fit only for call up in a national emergency, due to a diagnosis of bone spurs. Despite, you know, the fact he was still playing sports.

So no, he didn't get a draft summons. He got himself downgraded the moment he was at risk of receiving one.

>>35027973
Can't even just having flat feet disqualify you from military service?

>>35026772
That couldn't happen.
If he did that then he we would destroy his political support in congress as the state work share would disappear.
On top of that he would be condemning the USAF and the Marine Corp who are both dependant on this aircraft and have set their development around it, as well as pissing off all of the international partners.
Donald Trump would be banking on Lockheed thinking that he was a dangerous retard.
That's why all Negotiation talk is bullshit, Defence procurement doesn't work that way at this kind of level; this isn't India buying 48 Rafales from France.

>>35028001
Not that anon, but I've actually dealt with an injury to the arch of my foot before, and your feet have to be pretty fucked up to actually be considered "flat". The real problem with those tendons is they heal very slowly, but once they're healed you don't need 'special' boots or anything. You just need good ones (ie: the cheapest shit on the shelf at walmart ain't going to cut it).

>>35025089
>Implying the budget for a wall is even on the same planet as entitlement programs

You really need to look at the federal budget sometime Tyrone

>>35016756
75% of the F35 will be produced in china. thats how Trump ended a 16 month F-35 negotiation stalemate in 40 days at a price the USAF didn't think was possible.

>>35016843
What is interesting to me is how much of /k/ actually sees Trump as a idiot. I thought vast majority of this board would have been choking on his dick 24/7.

>>35028001
>Can't even just having flat feet disqualify you from military service?
Not as of 2007 at least. I went through TRADOC with people who had flat feet. They just were allowed to use orthopedic inserts if they wanted.

>>35021708
He and his brother are hyper-advanced star seed come to usher in the technocratic revolution and overthrow the old order. They will become as gods among ants, and we will thrive in the shadow of their perfect love.

>>35021883
There is a confederate flag in the catalogue which should be removed as it is offensive.

>>35033251
The only people who think /k/ is /pol/ are /pol/ themselves. As a general rule, /k/ hates the stormfurries just as much as everyone else.

>>35034062
>m-muh KAY is a progressive board

>>35033251
Should've elected Hillary and banned all guns, right? Some people really don't understand that Republicans in general are better for gun laws than Democrats. But go on and vote to have your rights revoked, you idiot.

>>35034661
I have a difficult time seeing how person like this should not be classed as intellectually disabled.

>>35034599
>If you don't like /pol/ you must be an sjw

>>35034691
Trump may be brash and a bully, but he has shown great tactical skills his entire life. Even I wish he could be more sophisticated but I guess he is acting that way to promote himself.
What I know is that his judical appointments will help the 2nd amendment for a while. That's enough of a reason to vote for him if you care about your guns.

>>35034742
I can tell if he is being serious. Because the "MASDUR TACTICIAN" is an actual believe people have.

>>35034742
>but he has shown great tactical skills his entire life.

Lol. Tactical genius getting a multi million dollar loan from his father and getting diagnosed with bone spurs to get out of Vietnam maybe.

>>35016756
Drumpf didn't do jack shit.

He's an idiot, and the US is obviously full of idiots since it elected him.

>>35034788
He won in a race were he basically had no chance. And he's a billionaire with 5 children and a pretty wife. Either he's got luck or he's good at this stuff. Either way, I think he's an okay Republican president and if he actually gets shit done and appoints more Supreme Court justices, he'll be one of the best in my eyes, since we haven't had good presidents in a while now.

>>35034852
Getting from million to billion isn't that easy. And I don't blame draft dodgers. No one wants to die for nothing.

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>>35021534
>But I guess only McCain is bad for doing it because he's a globalist turncoat faggot

That alone earns him my hatred. Fuck him.

>>35034877
>He won in a race were he basically had no chance.

Because Russia interfered and tricked people into thinking Hillary was corrupt.

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>>35034946
>tricked into thinking Hillary was corrupt

2/10. You got me to reply

>>35034946
Honestly, Russia is a small shit country and if they could actually influence the election in amy tangible way, that would just mean our governmemt and intelligence services are pure shit and should all be fired for incompetence. I also don't believe that any stories about muh email or muh Hillary is the devil changed anyones mind. This is all just a big fucking meme desu.

>>35034967
Hillary was one of the most qualified candidates ever. Unfortunately, too many people in the US lack an education and easily influenced by whatever they read in the news.

>>35035019
This isn't even /pol/ you stupid shill.

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>>35035019
Delet that you honkey

>>35034978
>if they could actually influence the election in amy tangible way

There are ways to influence an election that are not necessarily criminal actions and that are difficult to defend against. Specifically donation of money to a PAC through a third party(ies), propaganda through essentially state owned media organs like Russia Today. The SVR didn't have to sneak into a warehouse full of voting machines and break into them.

>that would just mean our governmemt and intelligence services are pure shit and should all be fired for incompetence.

You don't have any experience in intel work do you? I mean, I know I probably don't have to ask but I'm being polite.

>>35034900
>Getting from million to billion isn't that easy.

It's much easier to get from a few tens of millions to a billion than it is to get from nothing to a million.

His most "successful" venture was losing billions and using it as tax credit for the next decade.

You can not blame them all you want, that doesn't change that hes a draft dodger. It undermines any credibility he thinks he might have when he discusses public service.

He could have at least done like W and commissioned into the Air National Guard.

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>>35024412
>this anon still don't understand how international trade laws works

>>35034742
>such a masterful tactician that he whiffed repeatedly at condemning Nazis and the KKK

>>35016841
This is important.

>>35037306
>You can not blame them all you want, that doesn't change that hes a draft dodger.

This. He's a fucking chickenhawk.

>>35034742
>but I guess he is acting that way to promote himself.
That's the problem, he's a narcissist who cares more about stroking his ego and his reputation than he does America.

Best example is the recent hurricane. He doesn't see it as a tragedy, he sees it as a fucking opportunity for him to prove how great he is, by doing a good job handling this "epic and historic storm".

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>>35037512
>Nazis and the KKK
This thread is hilarious. The video simply put to rest whether Trump had a role in reducing the F-35's unit price or not. He did.

Who is invading us? /lgbt/? Leftypol? Tumblr? I can't believe you whiny little commie faggots are still so ass-blasted 10 MONTHS after the election. You're going to have a LONG 7+ more years.

>>35037891
>he's a narcissist who cares more about stroking his ego
There's no way in hell you're a male.

>>35037900
>There's no way in hell you're a male.
Could be a male. Doesn't sound like much of a man, though.

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IT WAS HER TURN!!!!

RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>35037900
>>35037902
>hurr hurr, you can't be a man unless you're an absolutely retarded egoist
And you can't be very smart if you can only 'be a man' by trying to turn everything that happens into a celebration of your greatness.

Do you think a guy like Mattis has to 'prove' how manly he is in such juvenile ways?

>>35034661
You do know that the President can't will laws into existence, right?

Right?

>>35037924
>And you can't be very smart if you can only 'be a man' by trying to turn everything that happens into a celebration of your greatness.
>Do you think a guy like Mattis has to 'prove' how manly he is in such juvenile ways?
the manic and childish diarrhea of the mouth manner in which you poorly phrase your words is what sticks out as obviously feminine

you go girl, keep fighting that patriarchy

>>35021809
I find it funny that we had three major candidates in a row who were Vietnam veterans and they all lost, while three out of the last four presidents all successfully got out of going to the war.

>>35027012
Well, no, Reagan actively worked with the Iranians to hold the hostages longer so Carter would lose the election.

Then he sold them missiles so he could fund his pet terrorists. The same terrorists who flooded the streets with crack cocaine with his blessing as well.

>>35037943
Is there some hidden meaning behind 2 posts per IP?

>>35037948
On the lesser boards, usually one or two people spam threads with memes and infographs and everyone else usually says "kek" or comments on repeating digits.

When they visit the higher boards, they are often confused by the back and forth discourse.

>>35037924
>And you can't be very smart if you can only 'be a man' by trying to turn everything that happens into a celebration of your greatness.

You don't know the difference between standing for something and just drifting through. It's doing the former in spite of adversity or inconvenience that makes you a man.

>>35037953
I thought it was the dangly bits between my legs.

>>35028817
>I don't understand how taxes work

>>35037956
>I thought it was the dangly bits between my legs.
That just means you're male.

>>35016927
Yeah, because subordinates never suck ass. Especially in the military.

>>35037953
No I do know the difference. And it's interesting that that point has absolutely nothing to do with your earlier comment, where I was a 'woman' for saying Trump's ego is retardedly out of control.

>>35037936
>complains about someone else's typing
>while not using any capitals or punctuation

>>35021708

Legend has it that they're some sort of hyper advanced hominids from either the distant futurue or the distant past who are basically orchestraiting the Singularity.

Damn this guy can't stop making an idiot out himself even after leaving the program. Those savings were already planned well before Trump was even in the running.

>>35037897
>I'm LOUD and my HEAD is BIG

>>35016841
>welfare is less important than a new toy to never use

I know you imagine all of your taxes going directly into the pocket of some strung out nigger, but get a grip, dude.

>>35017354
>unproven in battle and we have little idea about the upkeep costs long term
Will this fucking meme that a fighter has to be "proven in battle" before it's even had a chance to be in battle ever die?

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>>35035019
>emails leaked to wikileaks show that the hillary campaign and DNC teased up to get her the nomination, also exposing just how much of a neo con shill she was
>these emails were leaked (!!!) To wikileaks
>not a shred of evidence saying it was Russia

>somehow it's russias fault, not hillarys
K then

>>35041364
>Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's actions were Hillary's
>Implying Russia didn't hack both parties emails but strategically only leaked the DNC's
>Implying Wikileaks hasn't refused similar RNC leaks
>Implying Putin didn't admit the hacks were by Russians, though coyly pretending it wasn't on his orders
>Implying you don't get your news exclusively on Breitbart and Infowars

>>35041364
>>35041413
Non-burger here, why does it matter if it was the Rooskies or Chang or a staffer or whoever who leaked it, if at the end of the day the leaks were genuine evidence of wrongdoing?

>>35037897
>7+ more years.

>Implying Trump is going to finish his first term without an impeachment and conviction.

He'll go out with a bang, I'll give him that.

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>>35035019
lmao

>>35041441
It matters a little because then a foreign and somewhat hostile to us government is directly interfering in our election. More than doing stuff like making statements and meeting with people.

But that difference doesn't really matter for Hillary being prez. Trying to bypass democracy is not good for democracy.

Doesn't say anything in favor of trump either. Drawing comparisons to shit doesn't mean you're great.

>>35041505
>He'll go out with a bang
I'm personally hoping that the "bang" comes from Mattis' .45.

>>35041441
>if at the end of the day the leaks were genuine evidence of wrongdoing?
Because while there was intra-party malfeasance, it wasn't really specifically illegal, either.

The foreign influence blatantly favoring one party with an individual they have an unusual number of potential monetary influences over, on the other hand...

>>35042071
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/why-did-we-elect-such-a-president-russian-state-tv-mocks-trump-for-being-putins-baby/

Aaaand a tv host on Russian state-run TV just said:
>“US doesn’t have an adequate President, just an elderly, barely competent, nervously weary, fussy showman,” Davis tweeted, translating the broadcast from Russian.

>“So why did we elect such a President?” the host replied, to audience applause.

>>35043167
Oh no Russian tv said so.

>>35021986
Really impressive when you consider new Block 60 vipers are 70+ million, which Lockheed also sells. Lockheed wouldn't even bother upgrading F-16s except for F-35s are export restricted to certain countries. Turns out that having a western EW suite with an AESA radar is super expensive, even without stealth.

>>35043352
New build Vipers really are sweet little birds though.

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>>35043167
>Foreign tv can't make jokes on other countries political happenings

kys my man

>>35043394
They really are. Not quite tranche 3 typhoon level of awesome but cheaper than those so not bad. Just doesn't make any financial sense to get block 60 F-16s when you can get F-35s.

>>35017331
>Didnt even watch it
>Acts like hes entitled to an opinion
Hope this is b8, this is way too sad.

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>>35041413
>DWS and the DNC are completely seperate
>No evidence of any """"hack"""", especially for the RNC
>Implying wikileaks was somehow "wrong" in saying it was a handoff from someone inside the DNC (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html)
>Implying wikileaks would reject RNC emails at all
>Implying putin was in his basement blasting hardbass hacking the DNC himself
>Implying you dont diversify your news sources to flush out BS

muh russia card got outdated faster than hillarys cooch, grasping at straws wont make your argument any stronger

>"BREAKING NEWS!! Trump's Son has reportably walked past a RUSSIAN native citizen in the past 2 years!!! More by Don Lemon"

>>35041441
Thats the best part my dude

As Molyneaux put it, its like having a shady SO who you learn thru an anonymous email has been cheating hardcore, so you dump them and the no ex SO says "Its not MY fault! The REAL issue is i was HACKED!!!"

Despite the lack of any actual strong evidence saying it was an outside government, you are right. That wouldnt be an issue, even if true

>>35043700
Not that anon, but...
>reading breitbart and infowars for information "diversifying your news sources"
Is a really nice delusion you have there.

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>>35043731
Diversifying = reading both sides to get a good picture of whats going on

The Right has been discussing the emails themselves, which i find interesting. They are pretty damning

The Left on the other hand has been shouting "MUH RUSSIA!!!" ever since, and the constant downright conspiracies that come from them are downright ridiculous

If there was a legitimate fact-checked arguement by the left about this, then fine. But there hasnt been. The best they have so far has been to constantly dig and dig and dig and find increasingly more tinfoil hat shit as time goes by.

>>35041505
>He'll go out with a bang,
He'll resign and say how Mike Pence is such a great guy

>>35043700
>Trump's son arraigned a meeting in Trump tower with Russians expecting to illegally get dirt on Hillary
>Hurr no Russian contacts at all!

>>35043700
Also, Daily Mail? Really?

Wikileaks is fucking bullshit. Assange is a political manipulator pretending at being a neutral party just hosting leaks.

>>35043937
If you have proof Wikileaks hasn't been 100% transparent 100% of the time, a Pulitzer prize and the slobbering adoration of mainstream media awaits you! Go get 'em anon! Don't hold back!

>>35043973
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/
http://punchng.com/wikileaks-rejects-u-s-intelligence-report-russia-leaked-materials/

>Two years ago you would've been trying to get Wikileaks killed before they started targeting just the Democrats

>>35043937
At most, you can level the claim that Wikileaks is selective in what leaks it publishes. Which is fair enough. The leaks are real.

>>35044077
Hashes no longer match and they've published a bunch of shit that can't be confirmed. At this point nothing they touch should be trusted.

>>35044096
You sound like the very angry nu-males that reply to wikileaks in twitter calling them russian hackers while saying "Your credibility is lost!"

>>35044096
Plus some of the "leaked" emails had data changes that mark as edited in a Russia word processor.

>>35044142
>Implying they didn't lose credibility with the heavily edited "Collateral Murder" video

>>35044142
You sound like you have no idea why it matters that they are modifying and editing information they are passing on.

If the information integrity isn't there then it's literally pointless and should be considered no more truthful then the Daily Mail.

>>35041980
No, the whole military needs to stand up to Drumpf.

He and Pence need to be expelled from the White House and dropped from a plane.

>>35043937
Yep, daily mail.

So, what, is daily mail supposed to now be this infowars rightwing conspiracy news network? Cause last time i checked, they were quite liberal

>hurr you only look at right wing sources
>b-buh muh daily mail is also bad!
make up your mind holy shit

>>35044931
Daily Mail is a tabloid, and as reliable as the National Enquirer.

>>35043873
I don't see him resigning. I see him being in complete denial about the whole thing while trying to bring down the GOP with him in revenge.

I'm honestly not even sure if he'll get impeached before November: the Congressional leadership is quietly praying Mueller puts him in prison or at least throws enough evidence so they can impeach him without pissing their base off too much. But these kinds of investigations take years and so many people are dirty that it's going to take forever to sort it all out.

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>>35034946
You mean Hillary looked corrupt and the Russians exposed it?

>>35045881
She didn't look corrupt though.

People got pissy that the DNC didn't want Bernie Sanders as their candidate - that's their prerogative. It's a private organization trying to choose its own officers, and Bernie wasn't and isn't even a member of said organization.

I voted for him, and I wish he had won, but that whole controversy was overblown nonsense - people were looking for reasons to hate Hillary and they would've settled for anything to justify it.

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>>35045909
>She didn't look corrupt though.
Well then her released Emails shouldn't have had an effect then.
>I voted for him, and I wish he had won, but that whole controversy was overblown nonsense - people were looking for reasons to hate Hillary and they would've settled for anything to justify it.
Bernie Sanders was a fucking retard who could appeal to anyone but the most retarded left wing democrats. He lost the moderate and conservative democrat vote almost fucking completely, he lost to Hillary by 3+ million votes.

Hillary lost because she acted like a two faced lying cunt, a bland calculated politician without a soul. She was a terrible candidate with shitloads of baggage.


Maybe... don't try to elect socialists and lying cunts?

>>35045958
>lying cunts?
So why the fuck did the pathological liar win the electoral vote?

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>>35045977
Because he didn't get his emails leaked where it was shown without a doubt he was a duplicitous liar? She had already done stupid shit like "Oh, wipe a server? like with a cloth :^)?" that made her seem disingenuous, so when Emails were released with her colluding with the DNC and then hiring on DWS after she got fired cemented in people's minds that Hillary was a corrupt lying politician.

If you can't see why people thought Clinton was untrustworthy you're either slobbering on her knob, a butthurt democrat, or a moron.

>>35045958
>Well then her released Emails shouldn't have had an effect then.
We agree. Unfortunately people are stupid.

>Hillary lost because she acted like a two faced lying cunt
Eh
>a bland calculated politician without a soul. She was a terrible candidate with shitloads of baggage.
Yeah, that's true. She fucking clammed up after the healthcare disaster in 94 and let the opposition define her. I still think she lost because her campaign was absolutely retarded; they tried to treat it like a math exercise instead of what it is: convincing people to buy into your shit.

>Bernie Sanders was a fucking retard who could appeal to anyone but the most retarded left wing democrats.
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean everyone else didn't like him. He's easily America's most popular statesman at the moment.

>>35046021
>If you can't see why people thought Clinton was untrustworthy you're either slobbering on her knob, a butthurt democrat, or a moron.
Anyone can see that, the question is why people didn't see through it and why they chose someone with the actual qualities they profess to hate, amped up to eleven.

In any case, this whole affair only proves how wise the founding fathers were in that too much democracy is a bad thing.

>>35046027
>Just because you don't like him doesn't mean everyone else didn't like him. He's easily America's most popular statesman at the moment.
Which is like saying AIDs is more popular than cancer, who gives a fuck? Who knew the guy promising free healthcare, free college, free welfare would be popular among the retarded dregs of the democratic party? A politician who has never actually accomplished anything of note in his decades of 'service.'
>Anyone can see that, the question is why people didn't see through it and why they chose someone with the actual qualities they profess to hate, amped up to eleven.
Because a crazy republican is better than a corrupt democrat. I'd vote for Trump a thousand times over Hillary or Bernie.
>In any case, this whole affair only proves how wise the founding fathers were in that too much democracy is a bad thing.
"boo hoo those mean BILLIONAIHS AN MILLIONAIHS won't pay for my college degree and subsidized living, democracy has failed! :'("

>>35046116
If you're not going to take this seriously, why bother writing all that out?

>>35016756
You thought this thread was a good idea?

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>>35046202
>If you're not going to take this seriously, why bother writing all that out?
Are you retarded? Are you still scratching your head as to why people voted for Trump over Hillary?

>>35046027
>He's easily America's most popular statesman at the moment.

Nah, I think that's Obama.

>>35045881
>Gave Hillary shit about a speech at Goldman Sachs
>No problem with 5 high-ranking Trump staffers being G-S executives

>>35046021
>Because he didn't get his emails leaked where it was shown without a doubt he was a duplicitous liar?
What, the 500000 examples of him lying about shit he was on tape saying wasn't enough?

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>>35046252
>doubling down this hard
Trump didn't act like a soulless robotic politician whose every move, word, and action was calculated by focus groups and commities to be as bland and non-offensive as possible. She came off reeking of being a fake, a phony, a fucking fraud,
Trump acted like a person not a politician, he did whatever the fuck he wanted regardless of the political fallout, he speaks off the cuff and not like a robot.

You should really stop, you're only making yourself look stupid.

>>35046237
>Are you retarded? Are you still scratching your head as to why people voted for Trump over Hillary?
Because they have their heads up their asses?

>Same people screaming about "coastal elites" vote for a New York elitist who was born into money and lives in a literal golden tower

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>>35046279
>Trump acted like a person not a politician, he did whatever the fuck he wanted regardless of the political fallout, he speaks off the cuff and not like a robot.
Yes, he ran as a populist. Who just doubled down on every stupid or insane thing he said.

Even LBJ, who regularly whipped his giant dick out as an intimidation tactic, was an actual statesman who actually put thought into his words. When you're the most powerful person in the world, you CAN'T just randomly say shit, that's how wars start.

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>>35046280
>Same people screaming about "coastal elites" vote for a New York elitist who was born into money and lives in a literal golden tower
Yeah, the guy living in a golden tower, a literal billionaire was more relatable to the average republican and people who'd voted for Obama twice than Hillary Clinton. A sexist who'd been a democrat a decade before, a person who had no political experience whatsoever.
That's just how unlikable Hillary Clinton was. Trump didn't win the election, Hillary lost it and it fell into Trump's lap.

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Wow, a /pol/ tier thread topic, but with people who could pass as actual normies who watch mainstream news, making arguments and unironically saying drumpf.

>>35037306
keep crying fag, still have 7 years left. go get penetrated by a muslim while your at it maybe move to sweden you cuck

>>35046313
>That's just how unlikable Hillary Clinton was. Trump didn't win the election, Hillary lost it and it fell into Trump's lap.
More that voter suppression and gerrymandering tweaked things enough to make a mere 100,000 votes have more electoral weight than the nearly 3 million he lost the popular vote by.

>>35046317
ikr? these libtards wont last in pol for 2 minutes. its nice to see what a zombie normie sounds like for a while

>>35046319
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx

>Doing significantly worse less than one year in than any other president
>Implying he'll be reelected
>Implying he'll even have his weak majority in Congress anymore after next year

>>35046337
Yes, yes, your cesspool must be very nice for you.

>>35046279

Trump is stumbling into it all like a drunk. He is a hack, newfriend. You know who talked big and delivered? Teddy Roosevelt. A man's president. You mouth breathers love Trump so much, but he's not half the man ol' Teddy was. If Teddy were alive today, he'd aggressively handshake trump, grab him by the neck and put him over his knee, and slap his draft-dodging, uneducated ass into reality. You think Trump is some president of ther people who didn't talk like a politician. The reason is because he is mentally unfit to combine two coherent thoughts together. A badass like Teddy could charge up San Juan hill, kill 20 Spaniards, then, without needing to catch his breath, give an elequoent speech about regulating the food industry and getting all those rat-tails out of our breakfast cereal.

Teddy was the man, Trump smells like flan. Accept it you monkey beast.

>>35046361
Don't forget that his administration is resigning like rats fleeing a sinking ship.

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>>35046327
Salty libcuck detected. Let's not forget the 6 million illegals who voted Democrat

>>35046370
>Let's not forget the 6 million illegals who voted Democrat
But how can we remember that which never happened?

>>35046370
Huh, last time it was just that conveniently even 3 million, your lies keep getting bigger.

>>35046370
>6 gorrilion immigrants
But i though you burned them up a long time ago....

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>>35046327
>More that voter suppression and gerrymandering tweaked things enough to make a mere 100,000 votes have more electoral weight than the nearly 3 million he lost the popular vote by.
Cry some more. "Boohoo, California doesn't get 200 electoral votes, mean ole Trump and those meanie Russians stole the election >:'''(!"
If you dislike the way elections have been handled in this country for the past 200 years, I suggest you move to Canada you gay baby.
>>35046351
Two. Term, President.
>Trump is stumbling into it all like a drunk.
He's completely unqualified in every measurable way, he has absolutely no idea what he's doing, he's offensive to just about everyone... and he was still more attractive than Hillary Clinton. All of those decades of trying to build herself as the "First Female President" all for nothing because some boob who had a reality TV show beat her without even doing anything.
>He is a hack, newfriend.
>implying that I give a shit
>You know who talked big and delivered? Teddy Roosevelt. A man's president. You mouth breathers love Trump so much, but he's not half the man ol' Teddy was. If Teddy were alive today, he'd aggressively handshake trump, grab him by the neck and put him over his knee, and slap his draft-dodging, uneducated ass into reality.
Did that feel cathartic? Were you whispering "dummy drumpf" to yourself as you masturbated while writing that?
> You think Trump is some president of ther people who didn't talk like a politician
Trump is president of the United States of America, no matter how butthurt some people are :^) Trump became president because Hillary was even less likable that a sexist moron who walked into the presidency like a savant. It's entirely her fault she lost.
> The reason is because he is mentally unfit to combine two coherent thoughts together.
Yes, and Hillary lost to him. That's how deeply unpopular she actually was where it mattered.
>Teddy was the man Trump smells like flan. Accept it you monkey beast.
lol

>>35046367
lol CNN honed you well

>>35046373
that type of denial is the reason why you will be butthurt for the next 7 years

>>35046416
lol i like how most of the liberal commie celebs who said they will move to canada, thinking hillary will win, did not even though trump won

>>35046416
>>35046421
>Trumpfuckers in total denial of reality
How he got elected, really.

>>35046434
Does it burn when you drink varnish, or is there a smooth aftertaste instead?

>>35046482
go read gorka's resignation letter and you will understand why everything has been downhill for trump because of the neocons and the liberals who has done nothing but harangue and block his every move, but i know you dont give 2 shits about that.
>>35046503
projecting i see

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>>35046506
>projecting
Oh, you learned a new word. Here's your star.

>>35046506
>Tha mean politishuns are meking it hurd un heem
Politics is literally about being diplomatic and being able to hold a conversation that isn't a bunch of bloviating and buzzwording. It's not downhill, it's a non-starter because he was already a complete ass to people he'd need to work with during the campaign.

>>35046593
well good luck getting another nigger president, maybe he will be a better one, we all know how good obama was

Remember what it was like to have a competent president who wasn't too busy to condemn Nazis because he was busy trying to start Twitter wars or suck off Putin?

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>>35046640
>Remember what it was like to have a competent president

No.

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>>35046351
>implying polls mean anything these days

Split polls between Democrats/liberals and Republicans/conservatives

Trump has consistently had a positive approval rating among Republican/conservative voters, and their approval is the only thing that matters to a GOP President in today's partisan and polarized culture

However, Democrats/liberals make up the majority of the population (national popular vote proves this), or in the case the majority of the ones polled; so that skews the polls in favor of them

The election showed that not only did polls consistently understate Trump's support amongst voters, but also that those who were tempted to support him often did not respond to polls

I can't even begin to count how many times people said in 2016, "Trump is finished this time! Trump is SURELY finished this time! THE POLLS!"

Complacency is not a game Democrats should try and play again if they want to win

>>35046618
>we all know how good obama was
He was middling, but his approval ratings never spiked as low as Trump's average.

He tried too hard to work with a Republican congress that had decided to fight against everything he tried even if it were something they'd want.

But at the least he was a dignified statesman and a faithful, loving family man who maintained the dignity of the office. None of which can be said for Trump.

>>35046657
As long as the Dems put up someone who's not controversial like Hillary they won't get the same results.

Bush managed his reelection because he was able to ride 9/11 and the wars along.

Bush Sr. made huge impossible promises in his campaign too, and it cost him the reelection.

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>>35046660
He was an evil little faggoty Alinskyite activist that did nothing except clog the economy and raise racial strife and he can burn in fucking hell.

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>>35046692
>clog the economy
You mean recover from the crash Bush left him to better than it was before?
> raise racial strife
Purely by being a black man in the White House.

>Phil's here to scream and yell at everyone who isn't as crazy as he is
>Uses a clearly fake ad by a group with its site IN THE FUCKING PICTURE

>>35046714
there is literally no reason for not auto-filtering POS

>>35016847
This

>>35046657
>Trump has consistently had a positive approval rating among Republican/conservative voters
Every Republican president has that. George W. Bush had a net positive rating among Republicans his entire administration.
>>35046692
>did nothing except clog the economy
How old are you?
>and raise racial strife
Yeah, those uppity negroes never had no problems before. It's all Obama's fault.

>>35021864
We had free market shit already, premiums were rising faster than they are now and30-60 million people were defacto banned from healthcare due to preexisting conditions

>>35028817
Welfare is such a tiny piece you mongoloid.

>>35047045

and now that group just went from being people with pre-existing conditions to people who make too much money to qualify for benefits, yet work for employers who can't afford to insure their employees anymore

THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>35034742
>shown great tactical skills his entire life
If by great tactical skills you mean he hired the right jews to disappear his debt and make his financial decisions for him, then yes. There are books on this shit anon, pick one up for once

>>35046714
>Purely by being a black man in the White House.

going on TV and making national addresses hours after mass shootings saying police are hunting black people doesn't help either

>>35034900
Ummm it is when you take out multi-million dollar loans and just transfer all that personal debt to your company and then have it declare bankruptcy through supreme jewery

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>>35047073
>trump
>not a great tactician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

lot of obama lovers on a board full of people who love things he wanted to ban

really makes you think

>>35034978
She lost an almost 10point lead basically overnight when comey made his weiner emails announcement. I wouldnt discount that so easily

>>35047097
Again you reading comprehension challenged mongoloid, he literally hired people to think for him and run his business which is why he has no comprehension of how the economy works or how to help it

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>>35047113
>hurr durr trump is stupid lol

why is it that people who talk like retards always think no one else has any reading comprehension?

watch the video i linked and shut the fuck up

>>35047072
Except employers cant afford it any less than before because premiums are rising slower than they were and people get subsidies up to earnings of 250k for a family or something like that

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>>35047122
>people get subsidies up to earnings of 250k for a family

>>35047072
This statement is so fucking dumb is unbelievable. Even if that were all true they are fucked out of healthcare either way AT THE WORST. But that shit isnt true because 20 something million more people have healthcare due to bamacare fucking illiterate nignog

>>35047121
>Watch my hour long video that isnt related to the topic and isnt going to prove my point but just sit thee and wath it! You wont!

>>35047133
>But that shit isnt true because 20 something million more people have healthcare

and they don't work or pay for it

get educated

>>35047145
>you can't make me experience a perfect example of trump knowing what the fuck he's doing and talking about in terms of the economy

stay ignorant and sucking obama's dick if you want nobody cares man it's 2017

>>35047129
400% of poverty level or roughly 100k

>>35047160
>90s was a depression
Wewlad

>>35047192

keep going, 45 minutes to go

>>35047160
Dude are you stupid or something? Its typical republican economic boilerplate, cut taxes and us businessmen will make everybody more money. Not a single original thought came out of his mouth that wasnt stupid

>>35047195
See
>>35047199

>>35047199
>>35047204
>le republicans are dumb and so are you XDD

45 minutes, not 5

>>35047149
What is the cbo reports for 200$?

>>35047209
Projecting much? I never said republicans were dumb or even wrong, i said trump didnt utter a single original thought in the first 10 minutes that wasnt downright wrong or stupid

>>35047209
>>35047215
Not to mention we ended the 90s with the biggest fucking surplus ever with out doing hardly any of the shit that was said

>>35047215
>i said trump didnt utter a single original thought in the first 10 minutes that wasnt downright wrong or stupid

what makes you think I give a shit what you think

watch the whole thing and learn, or don't and keep assuming everyone is stupid but you

>>35047227
Again, projecting. Ive only stated that Trump is stupid and you are making the dumb decision to defend hin

>>35047241
>Ive only stated that Trump is stupid
>>35047199
>Dude are you stupid or something?

semantics are fun right? to be fair you ASKED, not stated

i'm gonna go jerk off now, don't forget to watch that video and keep pretending trump doesn't know what the fuck he's doing

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>trump apologists getting more desperate by the day

Im honestly surprised that this tread hasn't been deleted eons ago

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>>35047310
>obama apologists posting on /k/

>>35047253
>pretending
Kek

>>35034661
What, I can't dislike both of them? Just because I hate Hillary doesn't mean I have to like Trump.

>>35047373
>if you don't like trump then you must like obumbum or shillary
this level of retardation

>>35046279
>he did whatever the fuck he wanted regardless of the political fallout,
Yes except... He didnt... He used the rallies as his focus groups. Theres literally videos of him at almost every early rally testing responses with the audience and ditching anything that didnt whip them up into a euphoric frenzy. So, actually, they both did pretty much the same shit in many ways. Trump was just better at it, more mercurial and bombastic, and operated without any sense of shame or remorse when peopke called him on bullshit while hillary made the mistake of prentending to care etc

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>>35047353
Why? The mods have openly expressed support for /pol/ infecting other boards, and it wouldn't surprise me if the janitors were sympathetic as well.

>>35047097
Here sure does hate guns.

>>35046308
>Yes, he ran as a populist. Who just doubled down on every stupid or insane thing he said.
Thats not entirely true, see
>>35047468

The thing is... As much as Hillary would have sucked she would have had absolutely zero power to ban guns. It anything her election would have further galvanized the congress in2018 to be decidely republican. Plus she would have pushed the tpp through instead of abadoning it which would have cemented our dominance in the pacific and the scs. Not to mention the very fact of her getting elected btfo's russia hard. And she likely would have intervened in Syria to implement a nofly zone and the assad would be gone by now while isis stilk get btfo from the Kurds and Iraqis

>>35047483
Congratulations, you're one of the few in this world who are capable of critical thinking.

>>35034661
>>35034742
I can't believe people like you still exist where you're still in 2016 mode and you need to talk up a good game for Trump. Buddy, the election is over, it's been over for awhile.
>no the election is NEVER over you dont understand those fukken liberals...

>>35034877
>won in a race were he basically had no chance
Are you actually a retard or a turncoat Democrat? Who the FUCK believed the "he has no chance! xD" narrative? I mean the theory that Clinton would just rig the election at least had merit because they're are poisonous snakes and the DNC was basically a neon-lit billboard advertising how they play ball, but this? Come on.
>And he's a billionaire with 5 children
Wow. So he's a rich asshole and brought more pompous rich kids into the world. Gee, that's so awesome. Yay.
>Either he's got luck or he's good at this stuff.
It's luck, if there's anything he's good at it's making friends with people like Bill and Hillary.
>I think he's an okay Republican president
Finally something we agree on.

Though, I'll level with you, I think he's okay because he's been about as useful as tits on a bullfrog when it comes to getting shit done and I'm hoping for another Obama-tier president where nothing substantial happens at the presidential level. Aside from the SCOTUS victory for the RKBA he hasn't done good things at all, I'm dreading the absolute clusterfuck "the wall" will be as somebody who actually pays taxes.

>>35035019
>Hillary was one of the most qualified candidates ever.
Of course she was, and that is precisely the fucking problem.

What the Democrats did was no different than putting out a greasy, southern-born pedophile as a day care attendant and then getting angry when people said that's a bad idea.

"HE KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CHILDREN!!! GOD ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB!!!! HE'S FROM MOBILE ALABAMA OKAY HE RELATES TO RURAL PEOPLE!!!"

Gee, I don't know, maybe we can get somebody who isn't such an expert on kids but won't also literally rape everyone.

>>35035019
She may have good qualifications but she's still a shit candidate

Imagine if instead of spending money on the F-35, the USA had put that dosh into NASA
You could even have made them add a gun onto their spaceship

>>35021534
I'm sure if someone offered those card burning regards a way to avoid the war without any punishment they would've taken it too

>>35047690
>Of course she was, and that is precisely the fucking problem.

What the Democrats did was no different than putting out a greasy, southern-born pedophile as a day care attendant and then getting angry when people said that's a bad idea.

"HE KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CHILDREN!!! GOD ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB!!!! HE'S FROM MOBILE ALABAMA OKAY HE RELATES TO RURAL PEOPLE!!!"

Gee, I don't know, maybe we can get somebody who isn't such an expert on kids but won't also literally rape everyone.

fuck, this made me chuckle

>>35047097
>Obama never even tried a gun ban
Well, the manufacturers sure profited from all the panic buys, at least.

>>35035019
She was a political opportunist who held no real position on anything and only ever sought more power. She claimed to be progressive yet voted against gay marriage. Her campaign was nothing short of incompetent both in failing to run on an actual platform while at the same time losing the working vote to a man that lives a gold tower with his own name on it and built by immigrant labor.

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>>35047199
>cut taxes and us businessmen will make everybody more money.

>>35049274
believe it or not, cutting the corporate tax rate would be a benefit for the country

>>35049296
Not really. No company actually pays those rates, and the current structure rewards shafting the people actually doing all the work in favor of obscene pay levels for the few at the top.

>>35049306
They avoid paying the rates because they are the highest in the OECD.

>>35049323
Base rates and effective rates are two different things, and US effective tax rates on companies are actually some of the lowest in the world.

>>35049336
no, they are not one of the lowest.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/07/541797699/fact-check-does-the-u-s-have-the-highest-corporate-tax-rate-in-the-world

>>35049306
>>35049274
>2011+6
>still thinking that companies pay taxes

Loving Every Laugh

>>35049384
correct, companies don't pay taxes, people do.

>>35049358
>believing companies actually pay those high taxes anywhere

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/business/economy/corporate-tax-report.html?mcubz=3

>>35049413
Exactly. Companies don't pull tax payments out of their profits, they add it to their cost and transfer it to their customers.

>>35049358
Either way you cut it pre-Reagan the tax code was engineered to promote capital expenditure into hard growth and to discourage the extremes of difference in pays we have now. In the 70's a CEO made maybe 4-6x what the median employee did, now they make 350+ times as much.

>>35049358
That article goes to explain the effective tax rate is indeed low. Do you not understand what statutory tax rates and effective tax rates are?

>>35049417
>Implying companies like Apple don't just have a massive profit margin AND avoid taxes, boosting profit in both directions

>>35049428
So you have a source where its about Apple avoiding paying any taxes, right?

>>35049415
They don't pay the highest taxes, but claiming its the one of the lowest is incorrect

>>35049426
no, it says it is lower, but still near the top

>>35047690
>Who the FUCK believed the "he has no chance! xD" narrative?
Everyone but Nate Silver.

>>35049417
Yes, they pass the cost through to both their customers and employees

>>35049444
http://www.newsweek.com/apple-tax-avoidance-scam-just-start-496420
They paid some, but far below what they should have paid.

>>35046319
>still have 7 years left

Lol you can't possibly believe that. If he's not impeached and convicted he won't win in 2020.

I would wager that he doesn't even want to be POTUS anymore because everyone is justifiably shitting on him. He's nothing but a whiny man babby with zero knowledge on domestic or foreign policy.

>>35049444
>So you have a source where its about Apple avoiding paying any taxes, right?

You do realize that tax avoidance isn't illegal and literally every corporation and individual wealthy enough to consider it does it, right?

There's an entire finance profession dedicated to tax avoidance, they're called "Wealth Managers". If you actually talk to one they will openly tell you what they do.

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>>35044475
OMG unironically this, we need to end the white patriarchy, and this starts by killing all white male cis scum.

>>35025475
>drug offenders
implying telling people what they can and cannot ingest into their own bodies is ethical

go fuck yourself authoritarian faggot

>>35049585
>Alt-right tries to roleplay as the left

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>>35046714
>You mean recover from the crash Bush left him to better than it was before?

Watch this podcast so you actually understand finance and capitalism and the dollar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by1OgqQQANg

Obama shouldnt have fucking bailed out the banks because it only means that the cancer kept growing and will result in an even bigger crash later.

Its dangerous because trump is now branding this economy as his own but the bankers are setting him up to dump on him and blame all their bad practices on him.

>>35046660
Obama also passed the NAAP and gave the DEA access to the NSA search engine data base.

He is an elitist and only made things better for his globalist cronies and stacked the deck against average middle class successful people.

He also classified libertarians as domestic terrorists, and tried to pass gun control laws.

>>35047199
Maybe you should quit complaining and actually try doing something productive/creative with your life. Then you might understand.

>>35047382
>>35047310
>>35047393
>Not realizing Trump, as shitty as he is, is the last line of defense against a horde of authoritarians that want to subject you to gun control, and wealth redistribution.

>>35047471
>implying obama wants YOU to have the same rights that he does

>>35047483
>>35047502
u guise are brainwashed or something.. wwiii with russia would suck and having an authoritarian liberal in office would have had negative effects on free market and freedom including guns possibly

although I admit i liked a few of hillary's campaign goals but it was just not worth it because she is corrupt and wants to further the neo-lib agenda and go along with liberal mental illness

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>>35049274
YOU DO KNOW THAT YOU CAN FUCKING GO ON PATREON AND GET PAID TO MAKE FUCKING ORIGAMI OR FURRY PORN

LITERALLY THE WHOLE WORLD IS YOUR ASHTRAY AND THERE ARE ENDLESS OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE FUCKING DOSH

WHY DIDNT YOU FUCKING BUY BITCOINS YOU STUPID KEK

>>35049527
>If he's not impeached and convicted
cheering on civil war

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/24/roger-stone-predicts-a-civil-war-if-donald-trump-is-impeached/

>>35049844
I did imply that, yes. You have no other reason to believe otherwise; nothing in his entire history would suggest otherwise.

>>35049897
I'm not "cheering it on". I'm stating a prediction. It's unfortunate that low information voters would chimp out over it considering the colossal missteps this administration has taken since inauguration.

>>35049908
JAJAJAJAJA

Are u FUKKEN srs m9?

I dont have the fucking time to link you to all the shit obama tried to pull but with regards to guns he tried to make it so that welfare recipients cant have firearms for example.

He also strengthened the police state stuff with NAAP and gave the NSA more free reign and also listed libertarians as possible domestic terrorists and didnt repeal the inheritance tax. He also failed to stop the war on drugs because he was paid by the pharma industry. The list goes on and on, but you should just research yourself seriously I dont have time for this, but it's common fucking sense that elitists like Obama want to prevent regular folks from obtaining things like firearms which they can use to exert their agency.