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>Be returning to your home
>Notice unknown car parked in your drive way
>Pull into your driveway blocking in the unknown car
>Approach and attempt to identify who is parked in your drive way
>They point a firearm at you
>Tell you to move your car or they will shoot the person you are with
>As they are pulling away they shoot at the person you are with hitting your other car

Shoot or Don't Shoot /k/
How would you have handled this situation?

Discuss.

Link: http://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/woman-arrested-in-driveway-shooting-incident/4582916/
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>>34999583
The moment they pulled a gun on me I would have shot.
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>>34999583

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_M-KKJ9FMo
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>>34999590

When would you have drawn your firearm and what are you working with?
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>>34999583

https://hips.htvapps.com/vidthumb/cceb2064-a604-49d2-8634-fa5b8ebbdcfd/cceb2064-a604-49d2-8634-fa5b8ebbdcfd_image.jpg
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>>34999590
Same
> you're on my property and point a gun at me, and shoot at my friend
say hello to 6 .357 mag JHPs in your face
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>>34999614
Move to some sort of cover. I'm assuming from the description and pictures there are two cars. The "person I'm with" is most likely my wife and she knows to get the fuck out of dodge if something like this happens. I carry a glock 19 more often than anything else.
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I read the article and still couldn't find the motivation for why any of this happened.
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>this is a common occurence in murica
>murica
>first worldd
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>>34999640
Drugs? Looking to rob them for drug money?
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>>34999644
Having freedom entails having the freedom to do the wrong thing yurocuck.
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>>34999640

They were running from the cops and looking for houses to hide in. Already had warrants for arrest.
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I would have already had my hand on my gun on my hip as soon as I saw an unknown vehicle in my driveway, as soon as I saw that they had a gun in their hand I would have instantly drawn and started firing.
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Am I the only one that would have their gun out and loaded if I saw an unfamiliar car in the driveway? I mean, really people? Random car doesn't surprise you? I wouldn't have to pull a gun on them because I'd already have the gun in my hand.

>this wouldn't happen to me anyway because I have cameras on my property I can access through my phone and I always have it pulled up as I'm getting close to my house. You never know.
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>>34999667
This. I live in the hood while going to school and I'd have had my G26 out and next to me if I pulled up and saw that sketchy situation. One thing living here has taught me is keep your head on a swivel and don't take chances.
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>>34999583
If they're in my driveway they're on my property without permission. I shoot them right off the start.
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>>34999590
never draw on a drawn gun. you will lose 9/10 times. your best bet in this scenario is compliance, or try to divert and distract until you can get an opportunity to draw without being noticed.
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>>34999667
I don't know if I would come out of my vehicle already drawn. It really depends on a lot of things that we can't get in an article. If I had that gut feeling yeah I would have drawn already but I just don't know, but as soon as I saw a gun I certainly would have drawn and hopefully not had to shoot. Had she raised the gun there would be a dead bitch in my driveway.
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why not just block them in your drive way and call the cops

they can't leave if you use your car to block them in and they can't shoot you if they don't see where you are
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>>34999685
That's why I'd get cover first
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>>34999676

Yea, that shit will learn you up real good.

>also spent time in the hood when going to school many a years ago

I had a rusty Intratec AB-10 I kept in the passenger's seat with a 50 round mag. Thought I was hot shit.
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>>34999698
>Let's antagonize an armed person

Nothing wrong with calling the cops, but I wouldn't block their path. A cornered animal is the most likely to attack.
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Soon as I pull in my gun is out under dash. Tell wife quietly to duck as low as possible as soon as trouble starts. Step out with truck door open and window down. Conceal firearm behind door. Woman draws. Now Id probably engage through the open truck doors window and step out away from the truck while continuing to fire then evaluate her passenger. Situation would be better if wife is armed too and emulates my movement. Wife could also distract womans muzzling with truck engine as cover while I engage.
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>>34999712
It's my senior year and I'm just not trying to end up like goddam Ricky from Boyz in da Hood. Glad you made it out, anon. Sounds like a rough area for a AB10 with a 50rd now I really feel out gunned with my little 26
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>>34999735

Rural GA. Doesn't sound bad on paper but a shitload of meth heads and pill poppers, even back in the day. It's 10 times worse now thanks to Heroin making a comeback with Fentanyl playing the supporting role. So imagine a run down former mill town where black, white, and brown all live next to one another in poverty and every single one of them have a drug addiction and a lack of money to keep the high going. Lived in that shithole four months and ended up buying me a camper and stayed the rest of the time in local RV parks. Wise decision.
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>>34999793
you wouldent happen to have been in ellijay GA would you? that sounds like a damn near spot on description.
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>>34999583
put her on the chair
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>>34999685
No shit retard... literally no one is saying to grasp for a gun while someone points another at your face...
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>>34999873
Sounds like Elbert county to me.
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>>34999698
In the more likely event that it's some out of towner who only discovered that it's the wrong house, religious extremists who want a moment of your time to talk to you about their lord and saviour, or even someone you know, you'll get shit for abusing the emergency number. I'm not saying America is a land of peace and pleasant surprises, but I really think blocking them in and calling the popo is overreacting.

I'd draw, and from behind the cover of my own car demand to know their bidness and ask them to vacate the fuckin driveway if the answer isn't satisfactory. If they don't comply or don't answer, inform them that you're armed, not to try any money business, and call the police.
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>>35000048

This man pretty much hit the nail on the head. Northeast GA. Gainesville to Habersham to Elbert to every shithole inbetween.
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>>34999583
I've only ever had someone unknown on my property once. When I saw the truck in the driveway I pulled my pistol. The way I figure is If it was anyone who knew me they'd understand why a firearm was pointed at them, anyone who doesn't shouldn't be in my home.
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>>34999590
I would have had my gun out in my hand when I exited my vehicle and tried to identify them.
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what did they mean by this?
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>>35000313

Christcucks. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Christian myself, but we still have a flock of the folks that think that the Bible is the only protection they need in a world that is ever increasingly void of Christ. I'm too pragmatic for that bullshit.
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>>34999667
This. Behind the back.
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>>35000313
>>35000377
>not keeping two Bibles, one for scripture and one hollowed out to carry your handgun of choice
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>>34999583
>Pull into your driveway blocking in the unknown car
That's where you fucked up
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>>34999583
Technically, I'm a bit lonely... so there will be no one else in my car.

So, it would be really hilarious gunfight
>Distract
>Pull out
>Shoot fast twice
>Take cover
>Then magdump If necessary
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>>34999583
If you pull a gun on me on my property you're going to die.
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>>34999583
I wouldn't block them in the first place, cutting off escape tends to make folks act like cornered animals and leaving that escape route increases the likliehood they will buzz off and be someone else's problem without me having to fire off rounds.
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>>35000638
Id feel better killing them. I don't like sketchy people knowing where i live.
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>>34999590
This. My gun would be in hand before i got out of my car.
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>>35000235
The only answer.
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>>34999583

VIOLENCE OF ACTION

So, but seriously anytime I get the idea that I might need a gun, it's already out, chambered and often pointed at or near.

Always be the first person to come up with the idea if you're in such a situation as is legally your right.

And to answer the OP's question, like I said, I'd have come out of the car with gun in hand telling the person to show me some hands.
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>>34999583
>subtly line up my hood ornament with her chest
>press button to fire my M242 bushmaster cleverly hidden under the faux cowl on the hood of my car
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>>34999644
T. Eurofag
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>>35000313
Books don't stop bullets
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>>34999583
"She almost killed my wife, and all we had with us was a Bible," Bill Thompson said. "She had a gun and we had a Bible. Maybe that's all we needed."

subtle.
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>>35000919
The lord didn't save you. Blind ass luck did bud.
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>>35000863
>Live in UK
>Need 2 doctors or teachers approval for gun licence
>Can only use in sport
>Can only be a rifle or shotgun
>Have to put it in a gun case with lock
I want just want a simple Glock 19 god damn it. How hard is it for us Eurofags to realise that guns are good.
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>>34999583
>Shoot or Don't Shoot /k/
>How would you have handled this situation?
Well she would have had the draw on him so there is not much he can do when he's covered by the gun. Once he let her out then she is technically not a threat anymore and he probably couldn't justify it. But she was probably drugged out of her head so when she took the pot shot as his wife that's when I would have rammed her car, not saying that's the best thing to do but it is probably what I would have done if someone shot at my wife.
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If the picture is any indication, she'd be behind my car and her own car.

This would be an excellent moment to duck behind the engine block and depress the accelerator.
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>>34999644
>common
By what metric? Because compared to the overwhelming majority of the world, it is not common at all.
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>>35000945
>>Live in UK


Stopped reading right there
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>>35000945

A civil war or some other such break down of the guberment.
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>>35000891

Think enough books will stop stuff as large as .380
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>>35000973
Cant a brit enjoy some weapons.
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>>35000986
By your laws apparently not
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>>35000945

An Armed Man Is a Citizen. A Disarmed Man is a Subject.

-Allen West
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>>35001005

If that be true then apparently American citizens want shit like the NSA, CIA and FBI spying on them.
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>>35000820
you really shouldn't draw your weapon until someone actually shows violence to you.
>pulls into drive way to turn around or to preach bible to you, sees your not home. Gets back in car, you block them in and approach them with a gun drawn, they shoot you because they're afraid your going to kill them for a non violent action.
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>>35000188
> not to try any money business
> "I have a gun. If you're laundering money I will fucking END YOU"

Sorry but I had to
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>>35000891
https://youtu.be/J-FG9ZKerGM?t=230
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>>35000270
Yeah, this.
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>>35000891
with regards to
>>35001062
skip to 4:00
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>>34999644
>be (((first world))) eurocuck
>ran over by a mudslime in a truck
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>>35000188
>religious extremists

what do you have? satanist bikers or something?
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>"She had a gun and we had a Bible. Maybe that's all we needed."
uhhhhhhhhh
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>>34999583
>They point a firearm at you
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>>35001062

Now I just want to make body armour made up of 2000 thin strips of kevlar with a cermite or titanium outer cap.
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>>35001062
>1485

So close.
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>>35001041

>have weapon drawn and concealed
>ask what them what they're doing here
>if they dart their hands around, tell them to slow down

If you're reacting, you're late. I answer my door with a handgun and will often bring my rifle or shotty if a vehicle with more than one person pulls in. Anybody could be a "bible salesman"

Had an instance near me where some guys pretending to be meat salesmen were breaking into houses.

You show up uncalled, unknown or unwanted on my property, I'm staging in advance. I'll stay as friendly as you, if you don't look suspicious.

Just like if somebody starts approaching me in a parking lot or at a light, I pull my gun and orient it in their direction while it's still obfuscated or lay it in my lap before rolling down my window a few inches. If you break my circle, I tell you to step back, stop and show me your hands.

Of course, how people present themselves causes variation in my actions.

Don't come onto property you don't know or weren't invited to.
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>>35000468
>>35000683
>>35000771
>>34999590
.... edgelords.

You're all white trash anyway.
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>>35001424

This is good bait.
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>>35001424
>if you kill your enemies, they win
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>>35000986

Bin that spatula.
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I thought this thread was going to be about if shooting a pregnant woman was ethical, but it turns out the woman in the OP isn't pregnant at all and, she's just fat!
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>>34999583
>Hand on gun as soon as I see a strange car parked in my driveway
>Gun drawn as soon as I see that they are not someone I know
>Gun is pointed at them if they do anything other than show their hands and ask if they could use my phone.
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>>34999583
>>34999605
stand behind cover if posible tell her to put the gun down while aiming at her head she's probably a bit unstable to try to reason with her
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>>34999583

>>Be returning to your home
>Notice unknown car parked in your drive way
>Pull into your driveway blocking in the unknown car
>Approach and attempt to identify who is parked in your drive way
>They point a firearm at you
>Tell you to move your car or they will shoot the person you are with
>As they are pulling away they shoot at the person you are with hitting your other car

If I were still into NFA arms?

Piggy comes out, and at minimum 200rounds are expended.

As it is,No 4 LongBranch. One 220 grain softpoint for each shitlord.

Oh Canada.
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>>34999583
>and antifa thinks tacos are good people
THE WALL WHEN?
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>>35000986
you have to look in the right places
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>>34999583
>Be returning to your home
>Notice unknown car parked in your drive way
>Pull into your driveway blocking in the unknown car

At this point I would yell out of my window and try and figure out who they are. I guessing its a salesman or someone working for the city.

>Approach and attempt to identify who is parked in your drive way

Nope. They come to me.

>They point a firearm at you

Either ram them or let the dogs out of the truck. In that situation I'd rather loose my garage door and her legs over one of my doggos.
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>>34999644

Sadly we have belatedly discovered that you cannot have a first world country with a third world population.
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>get out of her way
>light her up as shes reversing but making sure i have my truck as an obstacle between me and her car

only problem is i'd always feel iffy about my g17 in a situation like that. shooting hp 9mm through a windhseild and car seat. the terminal performance would suck.
really starting to want a g32
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>>35004790
She was sitting in your driveway with a gun for who knows how long. What makes you think she's in such a hurry to leave?
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>>34999793
Dublin?
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>>35000048
sounds like the whole goddamn state
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>>34999583
>Today is a good day to die
get shot, shoot back
maybe I die, maybe they do, either way I go out LIKE A FUCKING DOCTOR
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>>35001424
>... edgelords
only feminists and Hank Green talk this way.
please get the fuck out. you are defective, and we can't guarantee whatever you have isn't contagious.
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>>34999665
This here. An unusual known car in the driveway would make me ready the truck gun first and then exit with the hand on the cc. If they pull an gun, duck behind truck, get truck gun and go to town
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>>34999629
>Not 1 to the left shoulder and 5 in your roof
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>>34999667
This. I keep my gun in the door while driving, laws being pretty lax here, and given a strange car in my driveway I'd be hesitant to just pull up for a chat without it in hand. More than likely I would get plates, make model etc before approaching from the side and be ready to dial 911. Though my neighborhood is full of LEO, Mil bros, 2A people etc and my neighbor acrossed the street is always keeping an eye out.
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>>35005933
>with that big a target I wouldn't miss
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>>35002262
>tacos
>Name is Miranda Gilbert

Jesus.
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>>34999583
what I wanna know is, how's a bitch gonna leave the house in that shirt, but still take the time to put a bow in her hair?
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>>34999685
If you practice your draw stroke, you should be able to beat regular scrub reaction times.

A totally not at all impressive trained draw speed is faster than all but elite reaction times.
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I'd handle it by not blocking a random person in my driveway.
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>This happened in my home town.
Albuquerque was a mistake.
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>>35000400
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>>34999583
Protip: if my eyes are open it means I'm mentally LARPing as the terminator
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>>35006075
>A totally not at all impressive trained draw speed is faster than all but elite reaction times.
this seems off to me especially if you're drawing from concealment. The average reaction time is only .25 seconds or so.
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>>35001424

>beaner bitch pulls gun on blonde hair blue eyed white couple
>THE WHITE TRASH TRYING TO DEFEND ITSELF IS THE PROBLEM

Happens every tiem
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>>35006054
I know plenty of beaners with one white ancestor, and they're now forever Johnsons.

Sometimes they even change their name to a white one uppon receiving citizenship

That woman aint white, she doesn't even look mediterranean. Just straight up beaner
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Why does she have a bow in her hair?

Does she think it makes her look cute like you won't notice she's fat as fuck?
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>>34999583
>Tell you to move your car or they will shoot the person you are with
>As they are pulling away they shoot at the person you are with hitting your other car

LEARN ENGLISH BEFORE POSTING
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>>34999614
If there was a strange car in my driveway I would already have my gun out with finger on the trigger out of view.
Then if I see someone hop out or from around the corner with a gun I'm putting shots on target.


>>34999605
She looks high as fuck.

>>34999629
Have fun with REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>you kike faggots meme that truck guns are pointless
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>>34999614
I also would have a gun drawn if there were a strange car in my driveway.
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>>35000400
>not scribing an entire rosary of prayers onto your ceramic plates
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>>35005933
>hehe revolvers recoil like crazy lol
>I know because I've never shot a .357 in my life
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>>35006381
No, he's absolutely right. Go watch cowboy action shooting, then reduce their reaction times. Those people have a draw to shoot of below .15 routinely.
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>>35007989
They are, I advocate OC of long-arms. It's the only way to keep society civil.
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>probably a highpoint
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>>35007989
>This nigger doesn't carry on body while driving.
Whats it like to be morbidly obese?
THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR LEAVING A WEAPON UNATTENDED IN YOUR CAR.>inb4 trucks arent cars.
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all you bigmouths you wouldn't do shit if someone pointed a gun at you. you would realize what cowardly cucks you truly are when it gets real fucking pussies.
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>>35006381
we have tried this a few times with friends. if you get a gun already trained at you there is nothing you can do. you see all this bullshit in the movies about disarms and jumping to the side crap. it's not working. you move you get shot period.
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>>35008554
>projecting this hard
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>>35002321
Has anyone ever used this website? I often wonder if it's a scam or not, though I'm fairly certain it is.
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>>35005750
if you watch the video it seems like she was aiming the gun at him to get him to move his car out of her way
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>>35008039
And they're also drawing from competition rigs in a game.
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>>35009149
If you're in my driveway with a gun and i don't know you I'm not letting you leave. I'm calling the cops and killing you if you attempt to use force to leave. You having a gun and knowing where I live is not okay with me. I don't know why you're at my house but you're not leaving without a police investigation wether it's in a cruiser or an ambulance.
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