How do I into black powder on the cheap?

>>34998352
Wrong board dipshit. Go back to your containment zone

>>34998401
Not even him but
Go bungee jumping with a noose.

Find a used 1851 navy replica for cheap and start hand casting boolits
Or if you mean manufacturing your own powder, then start bottling your piss

Its blackpowder, its already cheap

For the charcoal it's easy, for the nitrates for it make a niter bed

>>34997974
Google motherfucker!

You ain't even trying ATF.

>>34998437
I'm definitely not him but we're talking black powders not black power, neck yourself

>>34998427
Can I just get cigarette paper and roll it up with powder and boolit, then all I need to do is add caps and press them into the cylinder using that press thing on the revolvers when I'm at the range?

>>34997974

Why is that young girl smoking a marijuana

whats florida law on <21 with a bp pistol

>>35000062
They aren't firearms. Even underage calicucks can own.

Black powder muzzle loaders are litterally $100 for everything you need. Ammo, powder, rifle, ramrod. I would start there so you can learn how bp works, it being different than smokeless in every way.

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>>34997974
Rob an old folks home.

>>34998918
She's helping her glaucoma bruh.

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>>34998895
That's what I do. Roll your own.

>>35000706
Where do you find all this stuff for cheap

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>>35000756
>black powder and raw lead is too expensive

>>35000988
I get raw lead at the shooting range, the 25 yard pistol land a bucket and less than 10 min Ive got more than 40 pounds of scrap half of which is lead.

>>35000988
>>35001007
how do i find this stuff?

>>34998401
"progressive board" still a meme?

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>>35001186

>>35001206
wh-
what

>>35000756
Lead is cheap. Go to the local tire store and ask for the wheel weights for the lead. Google for the process and buy the right mold for the firearm. B/P is for the most part cheap. Look sites in you local area, look for molds and b/p. Mine is 'gunshop.rollanet.org'. Go to you local gun shop, NOT THE BIG STORES, find an Ol' Pop type than runs it. Lot's of knowledge to be found.
Google.
Google.
Google.

Learn.
Profit.
Fun.

>>35002028
i dont think i can do that
can i just buy lead

>>35002028
>asking someone to melt down lead and mold it
555 Come on now

>>35002028
So if you can't cast you have no options? How the fuck is anyone expected to be able to cast on their own. I don't have a smithy

>>35002569
Just find a cast iron pot, buy a lead ladle, and put it over a fire. If you use lump charcoal you should easily be able to get it to ~800 F. Or, buy an electric melting pot. If it starts bubbling it's too hot and don't breathe it in

>>35002724
Holy shit anon how can you think this is good advice

>>35002959
Just how did you think bullets used to be made?
Takes a lot of effort to actually get lead to vaporise to the point it's dangerous.

>>35002993
Just link some bullets, you're basically asking someone to make napalm at this point

>>35003013

$Fuck you

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>I want to get into black powder, but I don't want to cast bullets

>>35003013
How is my advice dangerous at all to someone who isn't retarded?
>then again, this is 4chan
Oh yeah, don't let water get under the molten lead or you'll explode it all over your face

>>35003375
>>35003361
I literally cant afford to cast bullets, I dont have a stove

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>>35003463
>I have enough money to spend $.10/ball on premade cast balls, but not enough money to get a $10 hot plate or some a few pieces of wood and a metal pot.

>>35003495
where can I get pre made cast balls?

what do you want from me? I'm poor and want to shoot black powder

>>35003528
If you don't have a stove you might wanna
reconsider for awhile. Then again, I'm not your dad.
Track of the wolf has pretty much anything you could ever need for muzzleloading or black powder

>>34997974
I have one of these and absolutely love it. It's dirt-cheap, very accurate, and a good way to cozy up to the world of black powder: https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/63968/Firearms/Muzzleloaders/Black+Powder+Rifles/CVA+PR2110+Wolf+209+Magnum+Break-Action+50cal+24+Blued%2FBlack

>>35003528
nigga is google broken for you or something? Every major firearms and accessories retailer on the internet sells them, figure it out.

>>34998622
Wanna know how I know you don't actually shoot black powder?

>>34997974
Pipe, pipe cap, drill. Matches. Black powder.

In a non-retarded manner.

Those kit pistols and kid single shot percussion rifles.

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>>35003528
>$200 on sale for the revolver
>Powder is probably like $20-$30 a pound
>$10 per 100 lead balls
>won't invest like $30 in materials in order to have a nearly endless supply of free bullets
This folks is why the poor stay poor, since they are fucking retards.

You'd probably be the retard that decides to use smokless powder instead, and kill yourself with the 6 chain fires from the fucking gun exploding.

>>34997974
Make it yourself in bulk.
Not difficult to do.

>>35003590
do you work for these fucking people

>>35003791
I dont have a fucking place to cook shit and why the fuck would i try to melt lead myself?
not only that . but you have provided literally 0 materials for me to even buy. maybe i'd do it maybe i wont but i definitely wont if you wont even help tell me what i even need

>>35003013
Even my dumb as a brick pot smoking neighbor manages to melt down and cast lead safely. This is a man who hasn't held a job for more than 6 months in his entire life.

>>35003933

>I dont have a fucking place to cook shit and why the fuck would i try to melt lead myself?

You do it outside in a well ventilated area you mongoloid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjjkE6y8avY

Go and get a metal pot, throw lead in it, put some fire wood under it and poor shit in a bullet mold.

>>35003968
how the fuck do I get a metal pot? what kind of metal pot? what kind of led? can I have an amazon link? where do I get fire wood? where do I get the bullet mold? wouldnt i need a constant supply of wood? might as well keep buying pre cast stuff then

Okay guys, I had my suspicions but this guy is a troll, no one can be this dense.


Anyways, what does everyone think of the pietta repro's? I was thinking about getting one of their 1858 remington's whenever cabela's has sale on them.

>>35003996
I'm not a troll. I am just actually this limited. I'm sorry. I dont go outside

>>35003977
then buy pre-cast you fucking autist. If illiterate frontiersmen could figure out how to cast their own balls so can you.

>>35004022
those illiterate had the resources to do it... and people who taught them how...
you guys act like having the environment to fucking melt down and cast lead is something common literally everyone has. what the fuck even is this

>>35004006
>plans on shooting black powder indoors
lol have fun

>>35004022
cool can i get a link to pre-cast stuff? where do i get caps?

>>35004038
We are literally fucking teaching you right now.

BUILD A FUCKING FIRE
GET A METAL COOKING POT
PUT LEAD IN THE POT
WAIT UNTIL IT MELTS
DUMP THE FUCKING LEAD IN THE MOLD

>>35004061
When did you hear that

>>35004065
cabellas.com or literally any other site that sells firearms shit

>>35004070
can I get a link to a metal cooking pot to buy? does it have to be special or something whats a good size

also how the fuck do i build a fire and where?

>>35004038
Nigger, my grandpa cast his own bullets for fun and he didn't have Google. You do. GOOGLE IT.

>>35004070
How will I know it's really lead and not some other metal?
Also, I don't have molds, can I use an ice cube tray?

>>35004102
and im sure your grandpa was also working just as blind as i am. yup.

I dont HAVE anything to do this with, it would be more expensive to get all this shit together and keep buying firewood then it is to pay the already tiny price for pre cast
>>35004109
this guy isnt me

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>posts anime girl smoking weed
>turns out to be a fucking idiot
I'm shocked

>>35004093
>also how the fuck do i build a fire and where?
JESUS CHRIST, DID YOU NEVER LEAVE YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEX IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE OR SOMETHING WHAT THE ACTUAL FLYING FUCKING FUCKETY FUCK

>>35004093
go to goodwill or something and get the sturdiest STEEL or IRON pot you can find. size isn't really all that important, as long as it can fit the amount of lead you want to melt it's fine. next get yourself a hotplate or camping stove. if you get a hotplate make sure it is for cooking and can actually get hot enough, keep the recipt. buy a ball mold in the appropriate caliber (cabella's sells them) and a ladle to pour the lead into the mold. don't bother with any of this in the first place if you don't have some sort of place outdoors you can do this. DO NOT DO THIS INDOORS.

>>35004145
i didnt even know

>>35004176
isnt there a better way than to build a fire?
melting lead just seems to crazy for me I dont understand it

I'm sorry that i've disappointed you all but i am trying to learn

i basically have no area that would be fine to melt lead in, much less have the materials to do so

i dont live in an apartment complex

>>35004211

what hotplate do you reccomend

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>>34998725, me
>>35000706, me
>>35002028, me

You are either dense and/or a troll. I am so much a poorfag that my poor broke my fag. Fuck you OP, get into the b/p as you want to or fuck off.

Pic related, my Gals.

>>35004234
when i made this thread all i wanted was 4 links
>caps
>powder
>bullets
>lube

instead i got yelled at and want to die of embarrassment

>>35004140
This guy is just trolling you, I'm trying to ask some serious questions to get started here. Can I do this on the stove if I crack a window open? and I'm wondering if I can just use a frying pan instead of a pot?

thanks guys

>>35003600
T. Old Fudd who shows up to the range with a goddamn rolling cart of stupid shit for muzzleloaders

>>35004265
can you please go away
why do you enjoy hurting people who just want to learn

>>35004233
it really doesn't matter. whatever is the hottest and the cheapest.

>>35004247
>google search bar
>percussion caps
>repeat for powder, bullets and lube

>>35003590
Same like I bought, good beginner.

These are like $140 after rebate currently with code gladtomeetyou630

http://woodburyoutfitters.com/thompson-center-impact-26-50-muzzleloader-209-primer-blue-blk-10186680/

https://www.smith-wesson.com/tc-75-rebate

tempted to get one

>>35004293
im going to fuck this up if you dont give more

>>35004295
But which ones are good? which ones are bad? whats the best cheapest thing?

i literally dont trust myself to make an opinion and thats how ive gone through my whole life up to this point

obviously this person is in dire need of a firearm. i'm sure they will be a thoughtful and careful gun owner

>>35004389
I regret telling him to not use smokeless, problem would've solved it self.

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>>35004278

>>35004356
dude, this isn't that difficult. maybe blackpowder and firearms in general aren't really your thing.

>>35003996
I have an 1851 and 1858 Pietta, good guns.
I also have two A.S.M 1858 and the A.S.M Walker 47, while they are no longer in business they have never failed me.
Piettas are good, very good.

>>35004389
I mean, seeing as I'm being very thoughtful and careful now that I don't mess this process up by asking as many questions as possible...
>>35004406
I like guns
I have no resources, I was never raised, I just got older

>>35004219
Doesn't have to be an actual fire, other anons already mentioned hot plates and shit.

>melting lead just seems to crazy for me I dont understand it
Nigger, what is your major malfunction?
>get steel cooking pot
>put pot on hot-do-not-touch-or-OUCH! thing
>throw in lead-do-not-eat things
>wait until lead-also-do-not-lick things look like the melted T-1000
>pour molten T-1000 into casting thingy

>>35004465
Where do I get the molds

>>35004474
Read the thread, people have answered that question. Or buy them off the internet.

>>35004513
God I wish I had a comprehensive info graphic for everything

I'll just wait a few months I guess for heat to die down and make a new thread

>>35004474
Gee, I don't know. Maybe, like, cabellas multiple anons already pointed you to?

>>35004474
buy this:
http://www.basspro.com/shop/en/hot-pot-ii-lead-melting-pot
and this:
http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/black-powder/black-powder-pistol-revolver-accessories|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104218380/lee-double-cavity-round-ball-molds-with-handles/740962.uts?slotId=10

>>35004535
you are making this far harder than it needs to be

>>35004535
Got a little triggered when people asked what you dont understand. Google hot plate. literally most if not all plates will do. youtube how to cast bullets if you dont understand how to put metal in a pot then scoop it with a ladle into a mold you can get from ebay.

>>35004572
That last link doesn't appear to be real?

>>35004624
make sure you copied the whole thing you tard

>>35004572
> $55 pot

>>35004669
it has a built in heating element

>>35004337

Actually $180 anon.

>>35004535
Yes once you've turned 18

>>35004422
For regular plinking loads, is the .44 1858 using a noticeably larger amount of powder vs a .36 navy? Do you source BP locally, or online? $30ish for a pound of goex sound about right?

>>35004730
the code is supposed to take 20% off, then a $25 rebate, might have to capitalize the code, I haven't personally tried it.

>>35004746
I'm 22

>>35004762
I run around 23 grain in the Navy, 25-28 grain with my 1858 depending what I'm shooting at. Just a bit more recoil with the 1858 and I have to aim low.
I get my B/P from a local country gun shop about half a mile from me. Hodgon Pyrodex P (FFFG Equivalent) runs $19 pound. Good fire and I have never had clumps.
Oppss, forgot about the 20% code. My bad.

>>35004762
Crap, forgot to add. Using the same grain measure with the 1858 -vs- the Navy won't need any more or less with either for plinking. I keep to about 20 grain while playing, makes it last longer,

>>34997974
How feasible is it to DIY a fairly large borer BP pistol? I just want to make a lot of smoke and noise for the most part.
Accuracy would be secondary to fun.
And a piratey look would be cool too.

Should I buy a kit or Frakengun it?

>>35006164
Walker 47.

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>>34998622
>Its blackpowder, its already cheap

>>35006164
I mean you've got some of those unfinished wood stock dueling pistol shits that are pretty sweet if you want to finish wood.

I really love cowboy revolver mechanics and want to put one together. Do they do cap&ball revolver parts kits? what's even left to finish?

>>35006484
>posts a bunch of things that aren't black powder.
Do you have a soft skull, anon?

>>35006588
You are blind.

>>35003528
IF YOU'RE POOR YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY PRECAST BULLETS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE EPXENSIVE.

DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN DISEASE?

>>35003977
>how the fuck do I get a metal pot?
A LOT EASIER THAN YOU CAN GET A GUN, WHAT TH E FUCK?

>>35006484
>smokeless powder
>smokeless powder
>smokeless powder

>>35006484
Those are all smokeless, but are you under the impression that's not cheaper than buying cartridges?

>>35003977
Just kill yourself you fucking faggot.
There's a reason why the poor stay poor and it's because of a low iq.

>>35003933
>What the fuck am i reading?
Do you want us to just come over and do it for you??? Is that what you are getting at?

>>35003977
>how the fuck do I get a metal pot
Kek

>>35004006

If you can't work this out it's probably beyond you and you'll end up hurting yourself. You've been given all the info you need and then some.

Maybe you should take up knitting just be careful with the needles

>>35006677
pre cast is like ten cents
getting set up for casting is way way way more expensive

>>35008005
I guess if you're only eating the one bullet.

>>35008392
dude
you people actually suggested fucking firewood
think about that

its like someone being curious about AR and you people tell him to build his own lower out of plastic and put the entire gun together himself

>>35008401
Lead can melt on a hotplate or a campfire or maybe on a car engine or like get a magnifying glass and aim it real careful. It's not rocket science. The cost of buying whatever pack of precast bullets is not any more than the parts to cast your own.

>>35008411
i need a $50 pot
like $100 for a hot plate
and then also some magic way to get lead/ BUYING pure lead anyway

>>35008422
>how the fuck do I get a metal pot?
I don't know where you're making up those numbers, do they not have pots in your country? It doesn't have to be any special pot, just anything that isn't lead. I imagine you could find something in literally any dumpster that would do the job fine.
>$100 for a hot plate
Is that in zim dollars? Lead is fucking everywhere though, not those tire weights cause they're barely lead at all but it's going to cost you less than the fucking pot. I'm sure in your 12th world country everything's made out of lead, consuming it causes brain damage you know.

>>35008446
im in america

you guys told me to buy a $50 pot
a good hotplate that you guys talk about is like $100

and you still haven tspecified where the fuck i get lead

>>35008463

you realize you can google this shit instead of trawling for answers on 4chan, right?

>>35008473

im asking for help anon

why is this shit so hard

>>35008463
fucking everything is made of lead, fishing sinkers, pipes, roofing crap, boat crap, old toys/knick knacks. It's everywhere and its pretty fucking toxic so people want to throw it away.

>>35008476

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4KmaXfoIKE

several seconds of google

>>35008485
thats also not including actual bullet recycling which is still free enough with all them scavengers. I bet ranges will sell it pretty cheap even if they do.

>>35008485
ive honest never seen any of this stuff before

all i wanted was to buy a black powder revolver, have links to black powder,lube, bullet, cigarette paper, and just shoot

instead?
i am looking at some muzzle loading hunting rifle, $50 pots, $100 hot plates, and some weird industrial thing that only has the option of ordering lead in bulk for $100-$300

why is /k/ doing this to me

>>35008519
$50 pot, $100 hotplate lol. That's probly just because you're a tard.
>how the fuck do I get a metal pot?

You will need to leave the internet if you want to be a poorfag. You can't be poor and a shutin.

>>35008519
Here, how's that for a price?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KNEUXM2/

How do you not even have a source of heat where you live?

>>35008564
im not about to melt lead using my moms stove using my moms cooking pots that may or may not even work for this anon

>>35008577
Goddamn, slobby little underageb& can't even use a stove without spilling his spaghetti.

> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005T0SN0K/
HOLY FUCK $100

>>35008611
I'm 22
also how do i get lead? i dont go outside....

>>35008625
Well see >>35008564
I seriously hope you're using this gun to kill yourself. Nobody should have to live with that. You must have had a lot of lead in your diet already.

>>35008636

you would act the exact same were you in my position

>>35008649
Just buy precast bullets, thats fine too.

>>35008665
but then you guys wont like me...

i jus twant to be liked

can i get all this stuff from cabela

>>35008679
you'll still have more guns than 90% of the board.

>>35000706
>boolet-blunts

>>35008679
no, cabela does not sell pre cast bp bullets, lube, rolling paper, black powder, or caps you fucking shit head

>>35000706
Do they really chamber(?) paper and all? Does it all burn off?

>>35004038
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GOOGLE HOW TO DO IT FOR CHRIST SAKE IT ISN'T THAT HARD

>>35002569
>How the fuck is anyone expected to be able to cast on their own. I don't have a smithy

Hurr Durr.. how did they do it 200 years ago innawoods.

Step 1- stop being a pussy. We did aluminum melting and casting in 6h grade shop class.

>>35010139
I wish I was spoiled enough to have that opportunity

>>35010139
spoiled jew

>>35003528
>what do you want from me? I'm poor and want to shoot black powder

If you don't even have a stove or a campfire to slavsquat next to I'd suggest you go the authentic 3rd world BP route:
Dig up or otherwise steal a piece of 1/2 inch diameter steel pipe.
Find scrap of wood to use to make a stock.

harvest urea from your urine to make potassium nitrate.
Make your own BP - lots of vids on the YT.
load barrel with rocks or marbles.
$$$
profit as black market fur trapper/trader
use $$$ to buy milsurp.

>>35010250
I have money to buy a gun and supplies anon

>>35003528

make your own balls from free/scrounged up lead.
make extra balls
trade your balls to other men to get powder or primers.

>>35003590
>https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/63968/Firearms/Muzzleloaders/Black+Powder+Rifles/CVA+PR2110+Wolf+209+Magnum+Break-Action+50cal+24+Blued%2FBlack


Would it be legal to cut that down to make a BP pistol?

>>35003933
>I dont have a fucking place to cook shit

What is a public park???


millenual fagit

>>35003977

May I interest you ina toothick shooting crossbow??
Seems more your speed...or at least you can grow into it I suppose...

>>35006564

Yeah, I basically want a somewhat cheap blaster pistol. A single shot hogleg that goes BOOM and makes looks of cool smoke. A range toy mostly.
Not sure if 50 cal would suffice, or if I should look for a bigger bore.
I was also wondering about the legality of converting a modern shotgun to BP. or into a BP pistol if it's permanently rendered incapable of taking regular shotgun shells agian...kinda like the .45/410 guns...

Not sure on the revolver kits- those might be a bit complex.
Mostly what's left is the detail/handwork...fitting the steel barrel into the wooden stock, and finishing the wood.

>>35008401
BP shooting is all about DIY and self sufficiency...

>>35010273
You must enjoy being difficult for no reason

>>35010453
Bp shooting is about SHOOTING

>>35010247
South Texas Redneck, bitch.
We also shot guns at school in the ROTC building.

Got my winning target from the 6th grade turkey shoot around here somewhere...

>>35010506
I wish I was that spoiled

>>35010524
Did you know that bleach now comes in a rainbow assortment of yummy flavors?
Try a couple until you find the one that's right for you.

>>35001206
But it's not at least 10 words, it's 6

>>35010821
How can you pretend you weren't spoiled

>>35010821
>>35010506
>>35010139
t. spoiled bitch
Have mommy pay for nice smokeless guns and leave the BP thread alone

>>35011063
I concur.

>>35011063
>cast bullets in a $10 pot on a $10 stove eye because you won't use what you have
>find lead anywhere for free
>FUCKING RICHFAGS
get
the
fuck
out

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>>35010983
>spoiled
>can't even google for himself
>you would act the same in my situation
>22 live with mom
>neetbux saved up

>>35004369
>i literally dont trust myself to make an opinion and thats how ive gone through my whole life up to this point
DO NOT OWN GUNS WHAT THE FUCK

Mods, can you shut this shit down or at least archive it?

>>35012915
Mods, how the fuck do I get a metal pot?

>>35012966
Are you autistic or something? You can buy fucking pots at walmart, HEB, krogers, whatever grocery store you have nearby, they all sell some sort of cookware

How much will a decent black powder revolver cost me, and what are some nice ones? Is it easier to reload BP ammo or just the same?

>>34997974
hello mahmood

>>35002959
it's not bad advice. A garage sale rusted cast iron pot + an electric hotplate = 2 bucks. A lee mold for 25 and you're in business.

>>34997974
op if you're serious just go to a gun show. Always some dude who bought all the shit thinking it'd be cool, got tired and is selling for a song. Start there.