What is the Best all-purpose CZ handgun

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Don't own one but people will probably tell you the 75

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>>34992073
Probably the P-01. It is has an alloy frame so it is light enough to carry but is built beefy as heck like the SP-01.

>>34992289
I want the railz but don't want the extra 7 ounces the comes with the sp-01 VS the 75b

i have a sneaking suspicion that these CZ threads every other day are created by the same person every time

>>34992343
I made one last night and didn't make this one

>>34992360
well, at the very least muslimbro will shit up this thread too with his HK shilling

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>>34992322
This.

It's compact for carry but not light like a polymer grame. Seems to be what you want, OP.

>>34992073
P226

>>34992395
Does it buck in your hands like other compacts? I broke my hand and wrist and went a month without getting it splinted which causes me to have weak vertical wrist strength. I have some issues with guns that buck like my buddies shit ass lcp

>>34992322
>>34992395
>>34992073
These guys got it right. I went with the SP01 instead and i can't help but feel like it's just a little too much gun. The stock 75s feel better in the hand.

The p09 may be light but it's huge AF, make a poor choice for CCing. The p01 will be heavy enough to be comfy under recoil, small/light enough for EDC, and has a light rail on it for HD or general innadark use.

>>34992451
I haven't noticed it to have harsh recoil if that's what you're asking.

Rent one to shoot if it's a concern, before dropping the dosh on one.

That huge thing in OP isn't a very good all-around gun, it's not designed to be.

>>34992451
your definition of compact is wrong. lcp is more of a subcompact or pocket gun. p01 is the older definition of compact and kicks about the same as a glock 19 or anything in that size of "compact"

an lcp would be more like a rami

>>34992073
Cz doesn't make a gun small enough to be uncomfortable to shoot.

>>34992498
Lcp is pocket, rami is subcompact, p01 is compact.

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Alright, I'll see if any of the lgs around here have the CZ P-01 Ω Urban Grey Suppressor-Ready (Omega)

Is the suppressor ready stuff worth getting?

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>>34992607
Not unless you have a suppressor and intend to use it with that gun.

I wouldn't put up with tall sights, a mag extension or a threaded barrel sticking out of my carry gun.

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>>34992073
Just get a P07 if u want to carry. U do not want to lug around a non polymer gun all day, especially if you're not OWB in a duty type holster

>>34992637
cute gun fag

>>34992655
It's a one ounce difference

>>34992637
But what about the omega trigger. Is it worth the money? Any way to get the trigger job without the sights and barrel

>>34992749
>>34992637
Scratch that. Found it

>>34992738
Between what, the 07 vs 09?

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>>34992749
The Omega trigger isn't better than the normal CZ safety trigger. In fact I'd say it's a little worse, little more creep, though I admit I tried a new Omega and an old standard trigger.

IMO the old style trigger is better. No you should not pay more for either.

tl;dr The Omega isn't "improved" or "better," it's just cheaper for CZ to manufacture in large numbers. It's not a match trigger or anything.

>>34992672
ty how about this?

>>34993057
oh gosh :3~

>>34993057
Nice walther
Back of the gun shop I had one that would slam fire all 6 rounds of 25ACP

>>34993057
Have you tried the CZ 75TS? I'm thinking of getting one in .40 for IPSC Standard

>>34992799
not him but

the p07 weighs 27.7 oz

the p01 weighs 28.1 oz

.4 oz difference

>>34992073
The one you don't have to cook with your finger tips.

Also a compact is something to consider for an all around gun, unless you're a fat shit who can conceal a full size.

>>34993206
Weight isn't as much of an issue when comparing those two guns though. They're both polymer so they're relatively light...the p09 however is fuck huge and the p07 is about the size of a glock 19

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>>34993159
>BRRAAAAAAP

>>34993173
>>34993173
I haven't, that one has the flat trigger face, is it a CZ custom shop model that's been worked over? I haven't tried any custom shop triggers or any of the SAO models either but I'd bet they are better than the standard production triggers with DA mechanisms.

>>34993325
P-01 has a 7075 aluminum frame

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>>34993325

P-01 is aluminum alloy.

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Anyone here own a Shadow Tac II?

>pic related, pure sex

>>34993325
P01 is aluminum alloy

>>34993351
I have a CZC flat SAO trigger in my RAMI. Adjustable and very crisp.

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>>34992073
Pcr best cz

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Why do we have 3 CZ threads going?

>>34993372
watch?

>>34993351
>>34993372
I was talking p07 vs p09... p01 is to heavy to carry. Period.

>>34993372
also, holster?

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>>34994214
>p01 is to heavy to carry. Period.
Period? You've got like three or four people in this thread alone who carry one, myself included.

What could have possibly convinced you that expressing such a statement was valid?

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Can anyone tell me why the CZ75B is 40 bucks more than the CZ75B Omega on the CZUSA website?

>>34994267
The Omega trigger components are cheaper to produce and easier to install.

>>34994214
you're replying to a post chain that was clearly about the p07 vs the p01.

How the fuck is the p01 "too heavy to carry" when it's only literally .4 Oz heavier than the p07 and 3 Oz lighter than the p09?

>>34994275
weird, why wouldn't they just make the Omega the CZ75C and phase out the 75B?

>>34994294
>>34994275
Omegas are more difficult to work on when it comes to custom work.

>>34994294
Because CZ fans would be pissed and it would make CZ custom parts compatibility difficult. They'll keep it as a parallel option while marketing it as an "improvement."

>>34994307
I just heard that Omega guts aren't compatible with the older style components, I didn't hear that they are more difficult to work on. Videos I've seen show the Omega components come out much easier than standard parts with less sproinging parts flying everywhere.

>>34994360
>>34994307
I can only seem to find Omegas anywhere

>>34992322
This. It's what I EDC. Get some nice wood grips for it, style matters.

>>34992322
That is sexier than most of CZ's actual product shots.

>>34994487
where do you get your wooden grips?

>>34992322
I had a p-01 and it was the worst shooting gun I have ever had even after 500 rounds. I am not sure why because it fit my hand so well. I have had about 10 pistols.

>>34994214
>I don't have any idea what the fuck I'm talking about: the post

>>34994469
Thats wierd.

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>>34994598
From cz custom of course.
Grip screws from HB Industries
Stealthgear holster

>>34994666
This is because you can't shoot. It's just as accurate as my SP01 but takes a better shooter.

>>34994716
Oh and flush base mags from Greg Cote

>>34994704
doesn't matter a whole lot I guess, It's close enough I can still say I have a '75.

>>34994716
I'll bookmark that
Any reason you can't use the normal grip screws or the why the grips wouldn't come with them?
Holster looks nice too

>>34994716
>>34994754
forgot to ask if I can buy 75 grips that will fit on the Omega, and if Stealthgear makes holsters for the Omega?

also is czcustoms a pretty good all-rounder? all of their shit is worth getting?

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compact

>>34992322
What light is that?

I'd like a light on my P-01 but want a fairly compact light that fits it well.

>>34992330
P10C has a rail. I own one, will be getting a light for it this week.

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>>34994260
>>34994277
>>34994694
You guys sound like you don't actually
Carry your pistols for concealment all that often. OWB it's a great gun, I've owned one. But it's not the best at anything. I'm a CZ fanboy and shoot them competitively pretty much exclusively but if you want the most comfortable gun to carry that you're never going to leave behind even if you're just running to the gas station for a pack of smokes, the P01 ain't it.

>>34992535
This is the correct answer.

Honestly if you carry you'll eventually want a pocket gun like an LCP.

The largest I carry on a regular basis is a Glock 42 and even its annoying.

>>34994214

it's an aluminum framed handgun, it is not too heavy, you're too bitch.

>>34995275
Says the guy who doesn't carry his gun everywhere/everyday

>>34995275
It's cool if it's the only gun you can afford and sometimes you have to make due with what you have. But you're fooling yourself if u think that it is ideal.

>>34995322
>>34995332

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you guys have some sort of bitch problem or your belts suck. Weight has never been an issue for me with carrying. Size can be though. P01 is no less comfortable than my Glock 19 for me.

Yes, even when wearing it all day every day.

>>34992289
I won't. Get the P09. I love mine.

>>34995379
We'll...that's your opinion. Most people in our community would disagree with it. But you're entitled to it nonetheless.

>>34994114
You're right, I'll make another.

>>34995194
Are you confusing the sp-01 and the p-01?

>>34995521
Nope

>>34993218
What is this meme? Do you have the grip strength of a toddler?

>>34995521
The point that I am making here is that there is no gun that's easy makes that is ideal for concealment . If you are carrying outside the waistband then that can be a different story , however if you're carrying outside the waistband why wouldn't you just go with the full-size gun were you have an absolute plethora of options available ?

>>34995623
Not easy. Cz*

>>34995194
Stop speaking for people that aren't you. You're making yourself look really stupid. People are telling you that they carry their P01s daily and you're just jamming your head further up your own ass.

>>34994360
Let me back track. While it is easier to disassemble it is difficult to get the good results off a trigger job compared to the original style trigger system. When working on them I had a difficult time getting triggers below 4 lbs compared to my trigger jobs on standard CZs that averaged around 3.

>>34995623
Literally nobody has claimed to carry owb in this thread. Seriously your opinion isn't fact and I'm sure "your" community doesn't appreciate a pompous ass like you speaking for them.

>>34995654
I already said u guys were entitled to your own opinions. I just think that you're wrong.

>>34994260
>>34995702
Sure looks like an OWB holster to me

>>34995433

You don't speak for "the community". Go back to whatever forum you came from.

>>34995702
>>34995733
Jesus... like I said, I'm a CZ fanboy but you guys are worse than glockfags

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>>34992322
This.
Sight upgrade, of course.
And if you got some cash and want to upgrade the trigger, get the cajun gun works' decocker hammer, 15# hammer spring, and their extended firing pin.
Trigger is smooth and it actually has a noticeable break at 3.5-4 lbs in SA.

One thing I will say is unless you go deep into their more $$$ package, the trigger reset is a bit long.

Are there CZs that fit Glock holsters? I recently picked up a holster, specifically the Raven Concealment Eidolon, that fits all of the 9mm Glocks. I have essentially decided on picking up a Gen5 Glock 19 as my first handfun, but I have a romantic fascination with CZs and would consider getting one, especially if it fits the holster I've already invested in.

>>34994530
It's difficult to get a good shot while you're squatting

>>34995838
If I recall the P10C fits glock holsters. Not a traditional CZ but a CZ all the same. Also in my opinion you'd probably be happier and possibly safer just using a holster that was made for the gun.

>>34995775

>waaah aluminum 2heavy
seriously man, you should know you're gonna get made fun of for that. .4 OZ my dude. You think .4 OZ makes a gun uncomfortable. Not 4 OZ, let me say that again, .4.

For a real world example of how insignificant that is, a modern penny, not even a true copper penny, weighs .088 ounces. Meaning the difference between the SP01 and P07 is 4 and a fucking half pennies. You are claiming a gun is too heavy by an amount of weight that is so absurdly light if you actually knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't have posted in the first place, because it is obviously absurd.

So shut the fuck up.

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before I crash can anyone tell me anything else about the dangers of getting an Omega over a 75B? Something that wouldn't be on the specs sheet on the CZ website?

>>34995881

correction, difference between a p01 and a p07. SP01 is steel and heavier, not aluminum.

>>34995838
The new P-10C, but it doesn't seem to fit all G19 holsters.

>>34995869
Fair enough. Do you know of any good AIWB holsters for the compact CZs?

>>34994736
Greg is the man, only place with P-09 mags in stock for a good while back when I got mine.

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>>34995905

The trigger will be "worse", but I never could really tell the difference desu.

The Omega is a fine trigger system and I guarantee you'd like it the same no matter what.

>>34992322
P-01 is a great gun. You would enjoy it immensely.

>>34995838
P10 was designed to fit glock 19 holsters.

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>>34995663
Gotcha

>>34995194
I don't disagree with you that there are better choices, but the other anon said it was bad for carry "period," which is asinine. The P-01 exists specifically as a carry gun, concealed or not. Also for what it's worth I carry it concealed but OWB, under a shirt or jacket.

I carry a Shield more often.

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>>34995983
Thanks dude. Only thing I didn't like about the Omega I fingered yesterday was the rear sight; I thought it looked chunky and had a different aesthetic than the rest of the gun. If I can replace it it's whatever though

Don't think I can post nudes on a blue board so have a bun

>>34996036
I won't even disagree with u man. But you summed up my whole point with your last sentence.

>>34992655
How do you like the shadow 2?

>>34996419
it's almost like you can buy different guns for different types of carry

>>34994754
Normal grip screws have Phillips head. HB are classy stars.
>>34994775
I don't buy omega CZs because I do trigger jobs with Cajun parts on them all. They are the same guns though as non-omega models so would not effect holsters afaik.
>>34995194
You talk like a fag and sound all retarded. I've carried a P01 concealed at 4:30 for years. I'm skinny and wear tight t shirts, it doesn't print and it's comfortable driving, sitting, etc. Everyone in here but you says it's a top tier carry piece.

>>34996456
>>34996456
It's really nice. I have and have had numerous shadows and they are all fantastic, is just kind of grown out of shooting production division so I don't get too excited about them anymore.
>>34996462
Yup
>>34996476
Yeah it's a cool gun man, whatever.

>>34995983
Is that a mix of a full SP-01 slide and P-01 receiver?

>>34996419
Your point isn't the one I'm refuting, unless you are the same anon I was talking about.

>>34996476
that's good because it looks like I'll be stuck with a n OImega; I can't find basic 75b's anywhere

>>34994267
nice dutch, is he yours?

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>implying the classic isn't the best

plebs

How do the triggers on the P-01 and PCR fare against Glock 17 triggers? I've been thinking of making the switch since my Glock 17 feels a bit big for my small baby hands.

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>>34996668
WAYY better in every way.

Which isn't to say CZ production guns have great triggers, just that Block triggers are SO bad that anything is an enormous improvement.

>>34996668
This is complicated so there's no choice but to give a complicated answer.

They are different things. Gotta try em side by side and see which you prefer. CZ is DA/SA, and a pretty good one. Glock is striker and pretty standard. Maybe even kinda bad for striker fired.

I prefer the CZ. However I shoot glocks better. Turns out preference isn't everything, practice also matters a lot, and the consistent trigger pull of a glock is (generally) factually better.

Also consider that if you think the Glock 17 feels too big in your hands, the CZ is wider. You might be better served just getting a glock 19. It might be the most generic advice there is, but that's for a reason. So basically try it yourself and see what you think, because this is very much a matter of personal preference. Then throw those results out the window, because you probably suck at shooting anyway and what you need is more practice and not a better trigger, because a good trigger doesn't make a bad shooter good. Then get whatever you want because you're not a competition shooter anyway.

>>34996663
This bothers me. I know what it's for but my CZ doesn't have it and I'm really glad. Do 75b pins not come out with the slide touching the hammer at half cock?

>>34996668
the cz75 series has a mediocre double action and a pretty good single action, with an OK trigger reset.
the glock has a mediocre striker trigger pull, but a pretty good trigger reset. It's not anywhere near as bad as burt seems to think it is, and if it's too heavy for you it can be fixed with a $15 aftermarket part in about fifteen seconds.

>>34996702
This.

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>>34996791
Forgot pic lol

>>34996796
P10 has a shorter uptake and reset.

>>34996814
possibly true, but not what we were talking about

CZ P09

or

CZ75 Phantom

>>34996796
THE CREEEEEP DUDE

>>34996582

Yup. I've got both and one night decided to slap them together.

Its actually kinda cool looking IMO

>>34996839
Phantom
>>34996850
ever shot a walther creed, or a ruger american? those, man, those have creepy mofuckin' triggers.
blocks not so much. we're talking just a hair of travel desu. a lot like like a milspec trigger actually

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>>34996906
I've not tried a Creed but I have a PPX, which I assume is identical to the Creed guts because why would Walther change the gun entirely for no reason, and it's one of the cleanest trigger breaks I've ever felt. It's in my top 5 best triggers of all time my dude.

Because I typed it already and it applies, read this here >>34996468

>>34996894
does it shoot?

>>34996850
You're a fucking creep, Burt.

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>>34996935
>mfw pulling block trigger

>>34996922
the creed has this awful DAO which is similar to only the P250 in awfulness. it really must be felt to be believed. completely different than the PPX.

also your statement about creep is extremely subjective. it's not a bad thing for a defensive pistol, especially considering how the general populace is brain dead

>>34996906
I wasn't asking.

That's the two CZ I bought for value and performance.

And I'm very happy with both of those CZs.

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>>34996975
Wow that sucks. I assumed it was the same as the PPX, I'll stop referring to it as such.

Creep doesn't matter for most people, no, and it certainly doesn't prevent good shooters from shooting good. But creep is an objective, not subjective, measure of the quality of a trigger. It's something anyone can test for and perceive so I don't think it's just me being typically autistic.

Whether or not it matters to certain people is absolutely subjective, it matters to me a great deal.

>>34997005
good ol' umarex, shitting up walther one shit at a time.
we agree in this case.
someday I might have to show you muh glawks and we'll see how creepy you think those are.

>>34996933
I also need to know the answer to this.

>>34992073
OP

P09 is good

i own P07 and wish i had got the P09 instead

>>34997410
Thats not to say i dont love my p07. Ill own both at some point. But im more of a Fullsize guy anyway

>>34994114
This.

I'm a CZ fag as much as the next guy but three threads is a great way to make the other fanboys hate us, even if they are all full of CZ discussion.

>>34993057
The Omega trigger has nothing to do with quality but with modularity. It's designed so you can swap the decocker for a safety.

>>34997138

oh yeah - I shot probably 400 rounds though it at a class I went to a few weeks back

>>34994716
I love my stealth gear holster. I can wear it without an under shirt and it's still comfortable.