Mousefart loads/efficiency hunting

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Forgot to post but I'm going to bite the bullet and buy a henry long ranger in .308 seeing as a .260/6.5CD/.257 roberts Lever action will never hit production lines. What's a good muzzle break and comp combo i can stick on the end of the barrel so i can take both more game in one day.

>>34990119
Look into George Nonte's stuff. He talks about these "gallery loads" also called "cat sneeze" loads.

The dangerous Secondary Explosive Events happen with slow powders. Most people who do this use really fast flake powders. Bullseye and Unique are the go to powders. Stay AWAY from slow powders. The Hornady manual specifically notes that low charges of slow powders are bad juju. With rifle cases they sometimes use a teflon puff to keep the powder against the primer.

>>34990119
I didnt watch the videos, but in general you can just fill the rest of the case with cream of wheat or something similarly inert to prevent powder shift. Starting with a high volume low power powder like trailboss helps.

>>34990519
Be a little careful with bottleneck rounds. There have been some case ruptures with the CoW filled bottleneck rounds.

>>34990119
They used to make an insert for .303 that you could put a 32acp in, so as to fire 32acp out of an Enfield rifle.
The insert was made of steel and looked like a casing with a chamber at the base and a barrel like hole the rest of the way.
Now the 32acp and .303 are actually .311 dia the 308 is .308 dia.
Do OP if your not dead set of 308 you could use an Enfield rifle.

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>>34990641
I had completely forgotten about those. They're still kicking around the internet here and there, in different caliber combos, too.

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>>34990119

>hhhmmmmmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EajIUO-dQVU

http://www3.telus.net/gamegetter/

>>34990818
yeah I remember a 7.62x54r --> 7.62 Tok one

Titegroup isn't case position sensitive. It's kinda of the defacto subsonic standard for rifle puff rounds. You can do the cream of wheat stuffing too probably...

I've done a fair bit of subsonic 308 handloads. 8gr of trail boss and any 150-180gr projectile should do it. Rainier leadsafe 308cal bullets are stupid cheap (~0.08-0.12$/bullet) and should work fine.

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>>34991055
>>34990566
>>34990464
Thanks for the info my guys. I'm still hesitant on squib loads and PP blow ups. Anything stopping me from shoving flash paper, cotton balls, it charcloth if I used other powders than titegroup or trailboss?

>>34991537
The explanation that made me more comfortable was that SEE have been observed with jacketed, not lead, bullets. The hypothetical explanation is that the primer drives the jacked projectile into the rifling, but not enough to engrave it. Then the powder ignites with what has become a barrel obstruction. And that's what causes the kaboom.

So far I've only done this with a .357, a .360 roundball and 3gr unique. Light lead bullets and fast powders and you should be fine.