.22lr thread

>>34986693
Browning design 22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIvfnz2amM

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>>34986693
So you start the thread with that piece of shit?

>>34986739
Nah, I love all .22lr
Even single shot

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>>34986756
Protip: never buy potmetal things that look like real guns.

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>>34986765
Fuck you, this is merika
So i'll do whatever I want

>>34986829
What model is that?
Looks nice

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My favorite, the only one that never gets left behind on range days.

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>>34986837
H&R 999.
The long barrels are harder to find and even harder in not fucked up condition.
I should not have sold it.
I hate myself.
Please
kill
me

>>34986858
Competition grade?
Nice

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>>34986693
Oh yes!

>>34986858
Nice

>>34986870
Can't kill ya
Don't got a gun yet

>>34986922
I'm looking into a old Rossy pump action 22
Made be browning, has slame fire
he he he

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>>34986924
>Don't got a gun yet
I lend you one.

>>34986922
Who says 22 aint good for home deffense

https://youtu.be/vHrUjguBlzc?t=5m18s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKAFzR7HG-U

>>34986960
really?
Sweet, I live in Texas

>>34986986
Ladies with their 22s

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>>34986922
whats that orky looking gun? its like a broom handle gheto blaster.

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>>34986990
Never mind
fuck texas
stay down there for your per decade douching this time please
jk
not really
>>34986999
I have almost as many 12ga as .22lr at this point...

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>>34987011
Charter Arms Explorer II with dakka clip

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>>34987011
Its pretty much a pistol AR7.
Theyre known mostly for never working.
I still want one.

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>>34987028
Ar-7 ain't bad if you take care of it

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>>34987023
a cursory google says its kind of a problem child, so is it worth checking out? based on the AR7, thats kinda neat.

Why does it seem like everyone privately selling used .22s want at or above MSRP for them? Just about every other gun I've ever shopped around for used I could find at bellow what stores were selling them fore, but not .22s.

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>>34987062
Yeah they CAN be okay I was talking about the pistol.

>>34987096
fudds love them.

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>>34987096
People are stupid sweaty greasy animals, especially rimfire loving fudds.
Older 10/22s and Marlin 60s easily go for higher than msrp but thats a quality thing.

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Also shoots .22 Short & Long, but primarily LR.

Did something happen with .22 pistols the last month?

>See a $250 MkII on a local forum
>Several local dealers have MkIIIs $200-250 with extras
>Those dealers also have cheap rare (in this state) guns like Hi Standards, Buckmarks, and H&Rs
>Take a couple weeks to work on my car
>Come back and everything's sold
>Dealer with the $200 MKIIIs is now asking $400

I fail to understand. It's not like anything else has sold out around here.

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>>34987123
beautiful

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>>34987130
I bought a high standard model b for $170 another heritage rough rider for 90 and a rigarmi .22 for 60 last month might be local to you dude.

>>34987100
Ar-7 use to be junk to be honest, the barrel screw would mess up from repeated use

>>34987176
Is this a enfield copy
MAN I LOVE .22

>>34987176
>>34987130
Shit, I wish I had some small local shops near me. All I have a specificity shops that cater exclusively to LEOs, one place that focuses on old milsurp, and then a bunch of big box stores. All the pawnshops I've visited only every have a handful of Glocks, used HKs and some 38 snubs.

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>>34987075
Nope, it's a finicky, crude, ugly piece of shit. Useful only as a curiosity.

>>34986829
>>34986837
>>34986870
You should not have sold it. Top breaks are my fetish.

>>34986870
I would if i could tripfag

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>>34987195
its a 1903 with a drop in conversion kit
>>34987712
love me some top breakage
>>34987741
love u 2 anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43chLSam9RE

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One of these days I'll justify ~1200 on a model 41.

Best .22LR suppressor? Thinking of getting into the NFA game.

>>34988130
Any
Just just ask around, cheapest is a oil can

>>34988182
Hello ATF. How is the paperwork for my Osprey coming along?

>>34988228
LMAO

Or just use duct tape and sneak around

Best 22lr pistol?

>>34988262
For what? Ruger MkII's are just amazingly fun plinkers. Maybe a SAA in .22lr for pretending you're a cowboy, dirt cheap.

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Ooh a .22 thread. I have this thing.

>>34988262
Engineer here
No such thing as best, everything is good at one thing and sucks at another

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My most recent purchase, paid 320. Wish they had a threaded mkIV that wasnt an orange abomination

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>>34988302
Okey, so a good 22 for plinking is a MkII, are there none that looks like a full size gun that works good?

>>34988357
I'm sure there are, there's like the ruger 22/45
>i keep shilling ruger
They're masters of the .22lr. I just never personally saw a reason. There's probly also .22 conversions for lots of guns that aren't .22 that could be good in both modes.

>>34988357
For what?
Hunting, concealment, zombies,plaing old fun

>>34988372
For fun, but I dont want a gun that is going to give me trouble everytime I take it out to shoot

>>34988652
Well that's kind of... well 22lr is not reliable ammo, even at its best. A revolver won't have feed problems and you can double tap that primer pretty easy.... but you also can't easily eject FTF's which is probly a better option rather than cycling around. I absolutely love the ritual of firing a SAA gun though, especially in .22

>>34986922
Is that an AR converted to 22lr or one of those 22lr ARs?

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Bought this recently for 400$, the accuracy is absolutely impressive for a semi-auto .22LR

>>34988262
Kadet 22lr conversion for CZ 75 pistols. Easily.

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>>34990522
It was built as .22, nice repeating integers.

>>34990578
Those don't come threaded and don't have great triggers, how can they be the best?

>>34986765
does it even matter with 22? I mean it's a step above airsoft

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>>34990807
It really does.

Think about it like this. Replica .22s aren't built to be the best .22 they can be at a certain price, they're built to look like their centerfire counterpart. That means concessions made to geometry, materials, spring rates and elsewhere. Those concessions mean weak points, lightweight and weaker materials, and unreliability.

There are two or three .22s based on centerfire handguns I can think of that are not complete shit. All of the others have had long troubled histories, most notoriously the P22.

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>>34986922

What accuracy are you getting out of the CZ & Savage?

>>34990555
>Bought this recently for 400$, the accuracy is absolutely impressive for a semi-auto .22LR

Can't say that without actually including some kind of statistic, bro.

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>>34990839

Fuck shit like Walther P22, Sig Mosquito, GSG 1911, Chiappa M9/1911/etc. They're fucking abortions.

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>>34990879
I haven't shot any match ammo through either, but CCI SV is about 1 MOA from the CZ and about 2.5 MOA from the Savage. The CZ really likes CCI so I haven't attempted to try match, and the Savage I always forget to bring out.

>>34990789
>CZ
>not having great triggers

Opinion discarded.
>tripfag

Double discarded and hidden

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>>34990941
They don't. It's my opinion of course, just like it's your opinion that they have "great triggers," but CZ triggers are not very good, especially the decocker models which tend to have quite a lot of creep. Even the safety models are creepier than most modern strikers. Go pull up a youtube video of someone reviewing a CZ75 and watch them pull the trigger slowly. You can SEE whether a trigger is good, as long as you turn off the volume so you aren't confused by what they're saying to the contrary. Sootch is especially bad at lying about triggers being super good when they visibly are not.

I know what a good trigger is, I've got plenty of good and bad ones, pic related. But we're off topic now so let's agree to disagree ok?

I'm looking for a 22lr conversion kit for my GP35. I know there are some kits for the hi-power, but are they compatible with the GP? If so, which one is the best?

>>34990976
Never mind me for hijacking the thread, but what brand gives their out-of-the-box guns good triggers? In your opinion. Not counting 2k Les Baers and the like, of course.

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>>34992935
Most of Walther's triggers are very good out of the box, like top 20 of all time good. Especially the P99, PPQ and PPX/Creed (yes really!). HK VP9 is very good too, but the other polymer HKs (other than Match models) are have pretty mediocre triggers. 1911s, even low end ones still tend to have pretty good triggers because of how simple and rigid the mechanism and frame are.

I have not tried either of them but I have heard Grand Power Ps/Ks and CZ P10s have excellent out of the box triggers. I put no weight behind that, it's just hearsay on my part.

That doesn't mean any gun not mentioned is bad, even filteredanon's CZs which I love, most guns have plenty of worthy merits. I'm just talking trigger snobbery here.

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>>34993181
k100, ppq, p99 in that order. overall tho, ppq.

>>34993675
I hear a lot of people praise the PPQ trigger, but I've handled 2 of them and they were both the most god awful, gritty, spongy triggers I have ever felt.

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>>34993899
Then you haven't actually held a PPQ or you don't know what to look for in a good trigger.

I suspect you're calling it shit because the takeup isn't ice-on-ice, which is pretty silly because it has nothing to do with the break.

Sorry.

>>34993998
I've only ever shot hammer fired guns. I was toying with the idea of picking up a P10C becasue there was a lot of hype around how good their triggers were even compared to the PPQ. So I went into a shop and asked to handle a PPQ and though it was terrible, so the guy even went into the back to get a different one and it was just as bad.

Then again, I guess I've been spoiled since most of the guns I've ever fired (at least when it comes to pistols) had trigger jobs done on them in some way or another. Best trigger I've ever felt was on a CZ Compact SDP

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>>34986693

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>>34994961
Very specifically and verbosely, please describe what about the PPQ's trigger is bad.

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What does /k/ think of the Mossberg 702? Is it decent 22lr rifle for it's 100 dollar price? I trust Mossberg shotguns but I'm unsure about this or just going with the Ruger 10/22

I mean all I have to shoot 22lr is my two Heritage rough riders.

>>34996146
Dunno about the brazil gun, I'm sure it's adequate but there's so much competition in that range why would you even go there?

>>34996220
I was local Walmart getting Munchos chips and saw it at a decent price on my way out. But it's not a high priority thing so I let it be.

I'm likely gonna opt for the Ruger anyway.

>>34996146
Well according to the poorfag guns guide its either bad or shit teir depending on the version. I went with the marlin 795 and it seems great for plinking and its only 140ish brand new. I would caution you though, that if you want this gun for anything more than plinking just get a 10/22 and call it a day. I found myself a little unsatisfied with the marlins trigger after a while and looked into what i could do to remedy that. Well me not wanting to make any irreversible changes to the sear sort of led to me purchasing and installing the dpi trigger (and trigger guard, but thats a story of stupidity). I like the trigger muh better now but it also turned a 140$ gun into an almost 200$ one. 50 more and i could just have got the 10/22. So only go with a cheap option if you want something you can use as is and beat up with few worries.

>>34996046
Not that anon but incase he never comes back, what do you think makes a great trigger? What little ive read seems to sugget cz's have great triggers but what you said about the trigger creep seems inline with how i feel with the few guns ive handled

>>34996291
No context in the Mossberg but I shot my buddies 10/22 this weekend and it's a fun rifle. We also put at least 300 cheap rounds through it without it giving us any trouble.

>>34996046
hey, can i steal this pic for WF?

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>>34996331
Zero creep is mandatory to a good trigger. And not like pull the trigger so fast you that can't feel the creep, but ZERO creep no matter how slow you pull or hard you try to induce it. Sigs fail this test, they are clean breaking if you pull quickly but do it slowly and you can feel the sear slipping slowly off the hammer. I cannot induce creep in a PPQ, P99 or VP9 trigger under any circumstance, which is exemplary.

In a pistol, a break weight between 2 and 6 pounds with a take-up weight of 10 to 40% of final pull weight. No matter how much money is poured into them, Glocks fail this test as take-up is 80%+ of the final pull weight (not to mention the horrendous, insurmountable creep). P99, PPQ and VP9 all smash this test as well.

Where applicable, smooth double action pull, with no significant stacking (since a little can't be avoided) and no bumps or grit. DA/SA CZs in particular fail this test, they have significant stacking and little tactile bumps all along the DA pull.

In my opinion, take-up and overtravel are irrelevant to a good handgun trigger. Take-up doesn't affect the break or the pull, and any perception of overtravel is lost in the recoil of a centerfire handgun (but overtravel can certainly be important in rimfire handguns and in all rifles). Further, take-up in most handguns and some rifles is used to disengage the gun's safeties, so to exchange those safeties in order to smooth out something that makes no difference to the breaking shot is illogical and dangerous.

>>34996458
Sure

>>34996146
Find a used marlin 795 (usually around 100$) then buy the DI trigger guard and trigger upgrade for 75$
Get 2 promags and your gonna be golden

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Wife's pistol

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>>34996532
And here's mine

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the first gun I ever bought

>>34996046
It felt as if there was ground up glass in the trigger mechanism all along what I felt was a long pull that had a soft, spongy resistance to it. The break was clean but getting there was very unlikable.

>>34987815

is that a real can? if so, jelly

>>34997120
Yup. Gemtech outback IId. 300 + 200 IIRC.

>>34996468
I appreciate the explanation.

>>34996564
Wtf are you me? How does it shoot?

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>>34997095
Would you mind taking the time to explain why take-up is that important to you? I'm having trouble understanding how it could be.

What is the cheapest most entertaining first gun I can get? 10/22?

>>34999990
>22
>entertaining
Nah

>>35000024
If you don't think .22lr is entertaining you don't like shooting.

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>>34999990
Cheapest would probably be a Ruger American or Savage Mark bolt action, to me it's quite fun to slow down and be precise. But you can do that with a 10/22 too, or decide to snap off a full clip in a row. So yeah, that'd be an excellent choice.

>>35000024
.22 is THE BEST caliber for fun, you're insane or trolling.

>>35000024
>I just shot 500 rounds for only 30 bucks!
>.22 blows up cans and clay pigeons and plates just as good as anything else
>not fun

I bet you don't even own any guns

>>35000298
>>35000307
>>35000410
>being this manlet
Try .308 and .357 magnum, we'll talk after

22 rifles feel like pellet guns

>>35001565
Honestly, if you can't get joy out of an air rifle, again, you don't like shooting.

>>35001565
Also just because you enjoy shooting .22lr doesn't mean you don't shoot other calibres or enjoy them.

Maybe you just enjoy firearms as a social crutch or the mechanisms of it rather than actually shooting?

>>35001565
But that's all I shoot; I shoot .22lr on a 25 yard range, .308 at Bisley and gallery shooting with a .357 lever action.

>>35001599
Nice fallacy you got there

>>34990839
What are the 3 ones that aren't shit?

>>35001639
>He doesn't enjoy something that's pretty much pure marksmanship and/or a cheap way to do some plinking.

Your loss.

>>34988130
Silencerco Sparrow

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>>35001674
Preface: I have no personal experience with these, but I still don't trust them.
Walther PPQ .22 (Umarex)
S&W M&P Compact .22 (Umarex)
And sort of the CZ75 with Kadet .22 kit, but this one's kind of unfair because it's a normal aluminum CZ75 frame with a steel .22 slide unlike nearly every other lookalike .22 which is made of zinc and plastic.

They are the only three I have seen mostly positive opinions of in terms of reliability and durability. The M&P Compact .22 seems to be the most reliable Umarex.

Just about everything else is fraught with problems, even most .22 kits for "real" guns. 1911 kits and Sig kits are particularly finicky. Pic related is the worst .22 I own by far. I'm lucky to get five consecutive shots out of it.

>>34986986
It's so fucking retro-future. I need it.

>>35003597
Thought there was a whitney wolverine repro in like .17hm2 or something.

What's more fun to shoot, a Ruger SR22 or Ruger Mark IV?

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>news
>woman shoots abusive husband
>several times
>with a .22 revolver
>he just strolls off and takes a bus

Why do people pretend .22 works "in a pinch "?

>>35005383
.22 will kill you dead but not as fast as other shit usually.

>>35005383
Who pretends this?

Dude 22s xd

>>34998137
It's quite accurate actually and doesn't jam too often, but I don't use it much anymore since it's pretty cumbersome for a .22 so I usually just stick to my bolt-action