Poor fag ammo

>>34972365
who says they are bad.
Would i trust my life to it? No.
Do i think that it will glocknade my gun? No

>>34972365
wolf is passable and significantly better than tula. tula is running the fine line between functional and non functional with most of it landing on the barely functional range.

>>34972365
It isn't bad. Just dirty, low power, and sometimes results in stuck cases depending on firearm type.

Id take it over refurbed brass ammo any day of the week.

>>34972411
>this is what people who don't understand that all Russian Steelcase ammo is nearly exactly the same, churned out in exactly the same factories, to exactly the same specs that they have been for decades, and the only variation in quality is directly measurable by the vodka content of the Russian operating/calibrating the equipment.

You're literally arguing over nothing. I've been shooting Russian steelcase for decades, and here is what you will find every single time:

1. Accuracy is mediocre, but acceptable.
2. Primers are harder than US ammo.
3. Inconsistency in bullet/powder weight is the only consistent. See #1.
4. Failures are rare, but slightly less rare than US ammo.

Basically, everything you already know.

Bullet is bullet. As long as it's not returned, is good.

Whenever I use Tula I end up with almost 50% failures.

>>34972365
Tula 75gr groups 2 MOA in my AR, so I'm not complaining.
Sure is dirty though.

Practice / have fun with steel, hoard quality brass cased for SHTF

>>34972365
Yes. Buy Barnaul if you want decent steel cased slavjunk food.

>>34972467
Its because your rifle sucks and you have a small dick.

>>34972365
Works fine in my 9mm.
I don't have a lot of options for bulk buying in California so I'd probably still have to get it.

>>34972617
Go away, Ivan.

I once had a squib in a box of Tula 7.62x39, but I've put several thousand rounds down range in several cabibers and had no other problems with Tula ammo.

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>>34972365
I don't know about 223, but tulammo 54r and 308 seems plenty fine.

Zero issues with Tula in my cheap shit NPAP.
Groups about as well as I'd expect it to, no failures.

Should I go with Wolf, Tula, or remanufactures/no-name brands for bulk plinking shut?

>>34972617
Go feed your cosmo beans to your communist rifle somewhere else, Ivan

>>34972365
just shot 2 boxes of tula 7.62x54r
pretty good desu

>>34972365
I've never had a problem with Wolf but I did get a funky box of Tula that sent my SKS to the gunsmith. So fuck Tula, especially when there are other options available for just a few cents more per round.

>>34972365
Tula has better handgun ammo, wolf better rifle ammo, at least in my experience.

>>34972365
Wolf ammo has always been the dirtier stuck casing in a sks making us mortar the motherfucker and odd shit coming out of the barrel worst case scenario ammo. was shooting a wasr and something came flying out behind that bullet i thought it hit the slant brake or something and hit my eye. holy fucking shit man i was shitting bricks. almost put an end to my range day. Tula on the other hand functions flawlessly through my AR and my C93/hk clone. smells kinda like piss though.

>>34972388
>Would i trust my life to it? No.
That oklahoma dude who killed like 3 people defending his home with an AR did

>>34972365
It's not great but it works. A bit dirty, steel .223 gets really messy in my AR. I run Tulammo in my Type 53 all the time and it works great though. Never used Wolf, not really available around here.

>>34972467
You probably have a weak hammer spring.

>>34972365
>Is wolf and tula really as bad as everyone says it is?

No.

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>>34974513
wtf, have had completely the opposite experience.

>>34973619

Clean your rifle man.

You'll thank me later.

I shoot nothing but Tula and Federal out of my AR.

Tula is dirtier and less consistently accurate. I recall a test done not long ago that stated that steel case ammo tends to cause throat erosion a bit quicker too, which is fine because you save enough money to buy a new barrel by the time it matters anyway.

I haven't had a single failure to fire/feed/eject in my last 5 years of shooting that had anything to do with ammo.

I've probably shot about 3000 rounds of tula so far, so my sample size isn't massive.

I don't keep Tula in my HD mags, but it's been the majority of my target shooting and blasting ammo for the last few years.

My AKs almost never get brass ammo and they don't give a shit.

>>34972467
this, your dumbass probably has a 3lb trigger pull and didn't realize it'd result in light primer strikes. dumbass get wrecked. I'm over here with my wolf extra power hammer spring and enhanced firing pin firing any ammo whatsoever.

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I mean, it does what it does.

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How does Red Army Standard compare?

>>34972365

Question:

If wolf and Tula and such are junk, what should I be using in an AK or SKS?

>>34976053
Its made the plant that starts with a U but I forget its name, something slav.

Anyway almost all steel case is made by 5 factories over there, people dont realize when they do a contract they also change the headstamp for whatever the contract calls for including the name

>ie wolf and tula can come out of the same factory in the same day but people think they are different

>>34972365

bad as in retards saying it will damage your firearm = no

bad as in it's not the most accurate = yes

>tfw I exclusively shoot Wolf ammo through my suppressed SBR AR-15 and haven't clean it
>several thousand rounds
I just drop ~8 drops of whatever lube in/on my BCG every 3rd range trip and hand cycle it ~10 times

It's filthier than frank but never had issues. Meanwhile my friends are shooting "brass ammo only man!" through their Colts and blowing them up (literally) because its freedom munitions.

>>34972365

problem with steel casings is that steel doesnt expand like brass does so you don't always get as tight a seal which leads to loss of gas pressure which can sometimes result in a cycling failure/failure to eject case.

3k rounds of Wolf WPA .223 through my AR, never had any reason not to keep it loaded for HD

>>34976113
Red army standard was Romanian, I thought?

Whereas wolf and tula are either contracted from the russian factories or they're just lots of russian ammo that the original buyer didn't want for whatever reason

>>34976053
I buy it for my sks all the time and have had some issues but nothing I couldnt clear immediately. Its mostly been light primer strikes if I recall correctly

>>34974861
I remember the test. It was a factor of the actual projectile. The bimetal Russian projectiles wore down barrels much faster.

>>34976851


your gun is unbelievable shit if this happens, ammo is the least of your concerns.

>>34974671
I live in Tulsa, which is right next to broken afternoon where that happened. Shit was cash

>>34972365
I like it and these days it really all I shoot.

Only issues I've had are in my one Colt AR15 HBAR, occasionally with tula a rnd will have light primer strikes... I'm guessing it's the primer depth on some of the cases but other than that it's great... shoot as much as I want doesn't break the bank and I don't feel bad about wasting brass as I don't reload

I will say that the poly Wolf does run better IMO and doesn't have the primer strike issue that I sometimes run into with tula

Generally speaking, Wolf is decent and Tula is workable. That said, don't run steel-case anything through rifles that don't like it. FAL's, for instance, will risk case head separations, thanks to the quirks in a tilting bolt's headspace.

>>34977225
That was also on near-full auto mag dumps of hundreds of rounds of ammo when barrel temp went sky high so the difference was likely less. Not to mention that when I've chrono'd wolf it's been a fair bit hotter/faster than most other brass case brands (and hilariously more accurate as well...like 1.5moa or better). It was also performed by a ammo supplier that probably gets better profit margins off brass case. Just saying.

>>34972365
>>34972365
no its perfect for practice

>>34972444
>4. Failures are rare, but slightly less rare than US ammo.
i expect and get at least one failure of varying degree every 4 boxes or so with tula. Mostly primer related as in needing a second strike, having to let my buddy try in his ar, or just accepting a ftf. No feeding or ejecting issues what so ever though.

>>34972365
Tula works pretty great.

their 9mm goes bang every single time. I have never once had a light strike with tula 9mm in over five thousand rounds, while I have had them with Federal and Blazer

>>34972365
It's dirty
It's not as accurate
Steel cases are not any harder than brass cases, sometimes they are softer.
Lucky Gunner did a test between steel and brass ammo, and if I recall the steel cased bimetal jacketed bullets wore the barrels out faster...but they were shooting thousands of rounds in a matter of days with ridiculously high barrel temperatures. So in a a real world application the difference in wear rates probably isn't that noticeable. What you save in ammo cost by shooting steel will easily pay for a barrel replacement or two. I think the Tula ammo performed the worst. You could probably look up the test if you were interested...its worth checking out.

for the majority of people who shoot at ranges less than 300 yards its completely fine for practice. russian steelshit works perfectly fine, its not match ammo but it runs like a typewriter in every one of my ARs and everyone else i know. people who used to have problems with it were shooting the old versions like 15 years ago that were lacquered. the lacquer gums up and gets stuck in the chamber after it gets really hot sometimes and tehn you start getting problesm with extraction. the russian steelshit manufacturers have solved the problem by coating the steel with a dry polymer now

the question you need to ask is
>should I be putting cheap shit ammo in my not so cheap gun?

if your gun is already a beater who cares what you feed it

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

Here is the torture test steel vs brass.

>>34973056
Zero issues with Wolf in my cheap shit NPAP.
No failures, though I dunno what my groupings should look like since I'm new to shooting anyway.

both give me occasional failure to fire because of their shitty primers, usually the second pin strike gets it going

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>>34972444
Go load a mag with Tula, Barnaul, and Golden Tiger.

You can literally feel the difference between Tula and other ammo.

>tfw did this to a friend trying out their new SKS for the first time last weekend, ahe brought Tula, I brought GT
>loaded it half-and-half
>you could literally hear when the mag switched and her group tightened up considerably

I'm convinced that a large part of SlavShit's reputation for spotty accuracy is people shooting shit-tier Wal-Mart Tula and not caring because "lol SlavShit isn't SUPPOSED to be accurate."

GT and laquered Barnaul are both ~1-2 cpr more than Tula and worth every fucking penny

>>34974513
>>34974835
Wolf isn't a manufacturer.

7.62x39 Wolf ammo alone comes from like 5 different factories. If Wolf is giving you trouble it's probably from fucking Tula.

>>34972365
A friend of mine had some cycling issues in his Bushmaster AR with Wolf ammo. The bolt wasn't coming back far enough to pick up the next round iirc.

I like to use Monarch brand, which is made by barnaul. I have never had an issue with it.

>>34978742
>Bushmaster AR

Hmm I wonder why.

>>34976074
Both are fine. Those guns planned on eating steel case and shitting them back out.

>>34978518
Oh but tula from fucking tula does? Shut the fuck up

>>34978759
Hey retard bushmaster used to make AR's for the gov/mil you'd be jackong off over them like colt and FN if you fucking knew anything "but muh shitty model" bitch even colt has the expanse gay ass fucking fail model and lets not even bring psa the poorfags choice of AR.

>>34978518
Wolf is wolf, now wolf gold, or wolf mil classic can be diff shit. But basic bitch wolf is trash basic bitch wolf trash.

>>34978492
>her
yeah fuckin' right.

Are reloads or small-time manufacturers like FedArm, Freedom Munitions, etc. good enough for plinking?
I always hear people say not to trust any reloads but their own, or only big new manufacturing brands, but at least Freedom seems to have a decent number of advocates on youtube.

>>34978965
>Freedom Munitions
I haven't had a problem with them
but I haven't even heard anything about the other one.

>>34972365
I have a ruger 556 and it runs fine.

I had the primer on a .308 tula blow out on me last range trip. All of the rounds in the box seemed to have inconsistent charges, judging by recoil. I felt a blast to the hand and face, smoke came out of every crevice of the rifle, and thought it had kaboomed. Nope, no damage minus soot in the firing pin channel. I'll go with Wolf as it's the same price and I've never had any problems.

The tula cartridges are pretty, with the zinc washed jacket. I kept the rest of the box just for looking at.

If you have the time and space, reloading produces much higher quality ammo for a similar price.

>>34973598

Whichever is cheapest. You're spending time shooting either for fun or for fundamentals (grip, breathing, etc), so the meh-tier accuracy isn't your biggest concern.

60/40 split near me that Tula is cheaper, but wtf, I'm on the northeast, so your mileage may vary.

>>34978965
freedom can go fuck itself. it regularly blows up at least 1 gun a month on the internet. ive seen it cause a hard lock up when a primer blew out the back. the one time i bought freedom i had to toss out 3 out of 2000 rounds cause they were visibly damaged. honestly dont see the point of buying their reloads now when its priced almost the same as factory. dont think its worth the risk. failure rates probably pretty low overall but guns kb enough that its not a surprise that freedom was involved.

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>always used either lawman or s&b recently in my pistols
>mfw getting 2k of wolf 9mm in today

time for the filth. Although I've heard that Wolf is surprisingly accurate for what it is even compared to blazer brass

>>34978828
Tula is shit, period. Whether it's Tulammo or Tula Wolf

>>34978930
Notice how SGAmmo will list which factory each Wolf item comes from? That's because Wolf is an importer and distributor, not a manufacturer. So when you say "Wolf" you have to be more specific because some Wolf is literally Tula and some isn't.

>>34978957
Go fucking try it then. Seriously, load up 9 rounds of Tula with one round of whatever else (Brown Bear, GT, Silver Bear, even other shitty-but-better-than-Tula shit like Red Army Standard, which is filthy but consistent). I guarantee you'll feel the difference with that one other round.

>>34974671
Dude got lucky, every time i run tula through my ar it turns into a fucking bolt action war club

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>>34972365
Yes

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>>34974996
It's just a thing that happens now and again. Sometimes you can see it on the neck before you even fire it, sometimes not. I've mostly had it happen on 54r, and have found one on silver bear 545. I haven't seen in on 762x39 or 308 yet.
I even have an unfired round of surplus 54r where you can see that the neck is going to split when it's fired. I can't find it right now though. I'll post a pic if I do. I'm kindof scared that it got mixed in and shot through my psl at some point now. That was years ago.

223 tula is good ammo. Shot 1000+, never an issue. Can get it regularly for 21c/rnd, groups are just as tight as brass that I've shot. You just need to do a quick clean more often.

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>>34981320
This isn't "the" one, but here's one I don't like. There's a ridge going right down to the rim, but it's worst at the neck area.

>>34981269
I'd like to see your calibration certificate for that mike, anon.

>>34973619
I've shot so much Tula 7.62 (both 39 and 54r) and I've never had a failure.

Ammo is fine. Just keep your gun well lubricated and clean your gun afterwards tho (which you should be doing anyway)

>>34981269
What brand is that

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>>34981468
Tula-era Wolf WPA 55gr.

>>34978921
used to is key word there, then they got acquired by freedom group and now I wouldn't take one for free.

>>34981544
You should send that pic to the company and post their response just for the lulz

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>>34981544
Or should I say """55""" grain.

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>>34981176
I run Tula all day out of my MP Sport and I've never had it fail on me. Maybe something in your gun is gummed up?

>>34981432
Wouldn't much matter, micrometers are re-zeroable and can be knocked out of zero (which is why they're re-zeroable).

I did zero it according to the instructions and I did do a comparison with a 77gr SMK immediately afterwards. The SMK was .224" exactly.

>>34978742
>Monarch
I've had good luck with the 7.62x39, 9x19 steel and brass, and .380 steel and brass.

>>34981176
Might need more lube. I've never had issues with tula in my troy.

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I wouldn't use it in a battle rifle.

>>34973035
Tula 308 is the only ammo that consistently gets me fireballs. It's definitely on the other end of the range compared to their weak 223.

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>>34982000

>>34977600
It sounds like there is something wrong with you gun anon.
I've shot probably 5k rounds of tula and 2k of wolf and have only had maybe 5 failure to fires. Literally what the fuck.

I have an sks, and all I put through it is Tula and wolf. It seems to cycle slightly better with the wolf ammo. My gun doesn't like like lacquer coated stuff. It malfunctions noticeably more with the non polymer coated ammo.

>>34978965
>>34980072
I went through about 500 rounds of their reman 357 sig without issue, it didn't group for shit but it went bang

>>34982036
i was there lol

>>34982381
Same. The weather was beautiful that day.

I got some 2000s Brown Bear .223 that turned out to be corrosive. I can't even find any contact info to complain to.

>>34972365
short answer: yes

>>34972365
tulammo usually gives me a hard primer or two every 1k rounds, that's the only issue i've ever had with it besides it being dirty and smelling like cat piss

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>>34977338
me 2

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>>34974861
>>34977225
>>34977522
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

>>34985651
guaranteed she's the type girl who enjoys being gangbanged by black guys

>>34978426
About three rounds in about 4 inches from a rest from 100 yards would be pretty normal for a cheap AK, cheap ammo, and average shooter.

>>34972444
It also runs dirty, is hard to reload, and can damage your extractor

>>34972365
If your gun can't handle shit ammo then you bought a shit gun.

>>34972444
Fuck me I'm agreeing with Zed. The only caveat I'd add is that the Vympel stuff like GT is actually pretty good ammo, primer issues from a couple years back not withstanding. It's loaded hotter, feeds better, looks better, and is actually lacquered and sealed.

>>34978828
Tula is an actual manufacturing facility in Russia. They make everything from cannons to ammo.

>>34980072
Something similar happened to me. I had to take 2 rounds out of a case of 1k of 5.56. Both of their primers were in backwards. I'm only 500 into the case after 2 years too because I don't trust it and am reluctant to shoot it.

>>34981269
What am I looking at here? Is that bullet ridiculously over sized?

>>34976053
Shot like 3 or 4 hundred rounds through my wasr with not a single failure. Accurate enough to fuck up pop cans at 100 yards.

>>34982036
That look of shame.

>>34974671
Holy fuck I just read the NBC article on it. They are so biased towards guns and people defending themselves they had to associate the AR-15 with the Colorado shooting in the same article.

Fucking agendas, man

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>>34972365
You get what you pay for in regards to .223. Put around 180 rounds through on of my shit ARs for fun. Ended up getting a stuck casing. Reccomend swabbing the chamber after every 100 rounds. Pic related casing that was stuck.

>>34987032
did this happen back in 2002?

>>34987247
kek

>>34981176
You need to adjust your gas system. Tula is loaded really shitty and the pressures dont work well with a lot of AR's

It's not really poorfag ammo related, but what's the word on aluminum case or polymer jackets for range ammo?

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>>34978372
What's the scientific reason behind steel case wearing out barrels faster? The projectiles are copper plated lead regardless, it's not the steel case going down the barrel

I thought that steel case was bad because it wore on the firing pin and extractor or some shit not because of the barrel

>>34988649
Copper washed steel jackets are not the same thing as copper plated lead, which isn't the same thing as copper jacketed lead, for that matter

>>34988690
so what are you saying

>>34988649
the chamber is still part of the barrel, dingus

>>34988768
cheap steel case ammo has steel jackets on the bullets.
the steel jackets have a microscopically thin layer of copper wash on them
The copper wash doesn't do anything but prevent rust
The steel jacketed bullets fly through your barrel at about 2200mph
steel rubbing on steel at high speed, heat, and pressure causes abrasion
abrasion causes your rifling to erode
your rifling eroding causes your rifle to become smoothbore
your rifle becoming a smoothbore causes it to keyhole
keyholing causes your rifle to be inaccurate
your rifle becoming inaccuracy causes your rifle to be shit

>>34977237
Actually that's not uncommon with dirty AR-15s. Unheard of in slavshit though

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>>34985904
Whatever you say, Schlomo

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>>34972365

>>34978492

>her

Fag

federal

Some guy at a shop told me Tula fucks up barrels, that it'll actually wear down the inside quicker and cause pitting. Any truth to this? Some guy is usually pretty smart...

>>34985904
The opposite. She looks like she takes pride in herself, meaning she's a Chad slut. Coalburning whores are typically strung out on drugs, tatted up, alcoholic party girls. The dead giveaway is the black rings around her eyes, and her vag.

>>34974835
>>Yfw no black lacquer ammo for your funs

Hate this pic, tried searching for origin but its some art photography shit. Closest I found are Hornady .308 TAP ammo where the cases are nickel plated close to a sexy black.

>>34982000
>>34982036
Looks like it fired out of battery since mag also blew the round out, but im not sure.

>>34989165
It was an overpressure event. The violent action of the FAL facilitates rim case head separation.

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I bought a case of this and my WASR loves it

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>be me
>poorfag
>only have Mosin and a Mossberg shotgun
>have to rely on dad for ammo
>dad comes home one day with 60 rounds of Tula Mosin food
>start shooting it, no problem
>a few weeks later, take Mosin out for inspection
>notice rust inside the muzzle
>ohfuck.jpg
>pretty sure Tula was non-corrosive
>go on /k/ today
>see thread about Tula being shit
>mfw

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>>34989219
WHY DIDN'T YOU CLEAN IT THAT NIGHT?

>>34989622
I clean it every time I shoot it, I guess I got lazy and didn't clean it well enough

>>34972365
Wolf Polyformance is actually good. So is Gold, of course. Both are true M193 loads, if not very close to it in the case of Polyformance.

>>34976113
>Its made the plant that starts with a U but I forget its name, something slav.
Ulyanovsk and I have no idea how I just remembered how to spell that, or say it.

Anyway, it's fine. You only really have the choice of Tula Cartridge, Barnaul, Klimovsk, Ulyanovsk, and Vympel when it comes to Russian ammunition. They're all generally fine, although Vympel sent over that Golden Tiger .223 Remington a year ago that had primers harder than dad when spies on your sister in the shower.

>>34981269
Fuuuck.

Somebody has worn out bullet manufacturing dies.

>>34989622
Not everyone is a gun clean freak

>>34977225
By the time you noticed any loss in accuracy due to steel ammo, you will have saved enough money vs using brass to buy a whole new rifle, maybe 2 at today's prices.

Who the fuck bought all the 8mm Mauser ammo in the world? All of a sudden it's out of stock everywhere, what the hell.

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>>34972365
Yes

>>34982036
>>34982000
this is what you get for painting it baby shit green

>>34988649
>The projectiles are copper plated lead regardless
They're steel-jacketed and electroplated plated with a thin layer of copper or zinc

>>34972365
not sure if this is still the case with Wolf but anything laquer coated is known to cause build up around the firing pin hole as well as other areas of the rifle so extended strings of fire are going to cause a shitload of gunk build up, that and the steel jacket is harder on the extractor than brass.

smells like shit when you shoot it so there's that as well.

>>34978921
All of the old Bushmaster talent is now Windham Weaponry, they haven't been the same company since Freedom Group moved the factory up to NY.

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>>34986465
Undersized.
>normal .223/5.56 bullet is supposed to be .224"
>that one is .208"

Explains this 100 yard group. Yes, all of these were shot through the same rifle on the same day at the same target.

>>34988649
Steel jackets do not wear barrels faster. Studies have been done by the US, Swiss, England, Gemany, and Russia prior to all of them using steel ammo.
Typical steel jacket ammo from Russia/surplus is cheap. Cheap, usually corrosive, primers and cheap hot burning powders. As the Brits found with cordite hot burning powders erode the bore far faster. High nitroglycerin powders like the Russians use have more power and can be used in smaller amounts, are relatively stable, ignite well in cold conditions, are cheaper than triple base powders or those with burn modifiers. The downside is these powders are hot burning and cause increased flame erosion of the throat and gas ports.

>>34995588
Windham's cheapo ARs any good?

>>34995898
No clue, can't imagine they're bad..but for the price and the fact that they're almost all carbine length gas I never looked at em twice.

>>34995898
They're basic-bitch but mechanically fine.

>>34995944
That's what I was looking for, cheers.

>>34995898
>Windham Weaponry
Come to think of it, they're almost all pushing the $1k mark, where the hell are you seeing "cheapo" models?

>>34995955
I'm getting $5-600 range. I'm moving to the US shortly and my fiancee has slightly more niggers and spics in the area than I'm used to.

>>34995988
Link me to these absurdly cheap WW rifles because everything on their website is $1k+.

Unrelated note, I'm a little mind blown how they even have dissipators but not a single mid-length gas rifle or 18" rifle length gas.

>>34982048
>werks for me, sumthin rong withyer gun

It works for me too. Should have mention that i've shot some lots that go bang with no fuss and others that tend to have a few duds that happen in multiple rifles of varying builds and manufactures. I just think that the turks don't bring they're a game for every lot they put out. Its cheap ammo and good enough for what it is.

>>34996034
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/84208/Windham+Weaponry+R16M4FTTCF1+R16+M4+Flattop+Semi-Automatic+2

Iunno m8, I'm no expert on these fox guns. I'm just looking for something more practical and widespread than my .275 Rigby.

>>34996077
Wow, that's even cheaper than an M&P Sport. I'd do some research and make sure you're getting an actual WW rifle and not something they contracted out to another company like what Colt likes to do with their budget line.

If made to the same specs as their other stuff, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

>>34996096
No wait, I'm being a mong. Carbon fibre moulded parts, not sure I'm too happy about that.

Fug.

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pretty tula boolit
here is one of mine

>>34995598
We need more people like you who can actually give these rounds the proper testing.

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>>34986937

>>34995598
I like PPU, I have gotten sub-MOA groups out it with my .308.

Monarch can go fuck itself. Shit would not feed/chamber.

>>34991953
Wouldnt they be oversized if they wore out?

>>34995620
So thats why the max pressure always occurs earlier with slavshit, by the time the bullet reaches the gas port in my 20" theres not enough pressure to cycle properly

>>34978492
>her

this post is fake please do not reply to this post

>>34972365
No, it's perfectly acceptable for practice and invasive species control (i.e. hogs, coyotes) where you just light them up.

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>>34978492
>GT and laquered Barnaul are both ~1-2 cpr more than Tula and worth every fucking penny
I've never seen as big of quality gaps in ammo as there is bewteen 762x39 brands specifically.
I'm happy with the tulammo 308 and 54r, but I'm super picky about 762x39 brands.
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>>34995620
It's been pretty obvious from some tests that it was the powder and not (only at least) the bullets causing it. There was that one test where they shot thousands of rounds and cross-sectioned the barrels after. The cheap russian ammo made a really big difference on how the barrels, and especially throats and ports looked. But they really cooked the barrels with fast fire too during the test too IIRC. So I'm assuming my results at the same round count would look significantly better on my gun where I rarely ever heat my barrel up?

>>34972365
its ammunition. if it didnt work it would never sell and since theyre in business still, it works
i use it because its cheaper and have zero issues with it

>>34972365
It's stinky and bimetal jackets will burn barrels about four thousand rounds early according to lucky gunner's test, but you will save several barrels worth of money in that time. So, eh. I use it.

>>34972388

This. I get 1 1/8 inch groups at 100 yards with 55 grain Tula HP out of a 16 inch chrome lined barrel. Would probably be better if I had an optic past 6x.

As for their 9mm, it has been flawless in multiple glocks, Beretta, highpower, but it wouldn't work in a 9mm highpoint.

>>34989874
That vympel golden tiger was the best deal ever, i should have busted out the credit card and bought more. I bought a black rifle arms enhanced firing pin for $10.00 and a wolf extra power hammer spring for $5.00 and shot 2,000 kick ass fucking rounds for $300.00

>>34978492
>shooting funs with girls
what a faggot, I bet you like kissing girls too

>>34994421
cleaning a rifle is like washing your hands after using the restroom, it's a habit, the only time you don't are when you can't and you should feel disgusting if you haven't

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>>34988915

>>34978742
>>34981720

Monarch handgun ammo is PPU, good stuff