eotech

>>34937745
Garand thumb go home, you're drunk.

you're a naughty boy, i ought to bend you over my knee and spank ya

>>34937745
>he doesn't use a Chinese bootleg Bushnell Airsoft sight

>>34937745
Good, it's the best.
Aimpoint faggots are the worst.
>overpriced as fuck
>$200 Chinese redots can do the same.

>>34937745
>experiences POI shift in ridiculously extremem temp difference that most of the 99% of civilian users will never see
>hurrr better throw it in the trash

>>34937929
>every single sight experiences this due to the laws of physics
>EOTECH IN THE TRASH
>Well the Triji MRO is fine cause they have a PDF on their website explaining why it's normal

>>34937929
>99% of civilian users will never see

Agreed, I bought a 512 like 10 years ago and often shoot at my brothers house who lives in the mountains so we would go from like shooting in like 15 degree weather right to a warm house like 75 degrees and never had a problem or change in POI that didn't come with taking it off and on. Jewtechs are solid

>>34937929
>ridiculously extremem temp difference that most of the 99% of civilian users will never see

>Arizona and New Mexico are now 1% of the United States

Wew

>>34937776
>hurr durr muh holosun is the same as aimpoint

You do realize that your eokek trash is worse than the chinese red dots?

>>34938381
Arizona and New Mexcio combined actually still only make up 2.5% of the population of the US

>>34938381
>arizona and new mexico
>US

no one who lives there is even white, wtf are you on about, those places dont count

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what is this

>>34940272
A wire to hold the battery cap to the optic so it doesn't get lost. Since you have to change the battery often compared to red dots

>>34940272
Are you stupid? It's a grounding wire obviously.

>>34940307
yes i am stupid

other than branding, what is the difference bettween an EOTech and any other red dot?

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>>34938946
Ian lives there.

I doubht he would get an eotrash tho.

>>34940307
This. Its a grounding wire.

>>34940307
>>34940382
wtf why does such a low power device need an earth ground?

>>34940376
Laser emitter instead of LED. The only other holographic sight on the market is the Vortex UH-1.

>>34940432

To comply rules.

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>>34940432
>projecting holograms on this scale
>low power device
r u srs m8?

>>34940541
>implying the EOTech HWS is a high powered device
>implying it even uses high voltage

Yea it's not a ground, it's literally just a retaining strap for the battery cover.

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>>34940560
No shit, it's just a wire to retain the battery cap

Love my eotech. Just picked it up on my AR fuck k for trying to talk me into buying some shitty red dot.

its aesthetic as fuck and killed osama. what more can a man need?

They've fixed their stuff now. They make good shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8qympAk-HA&t=

>>34938946
Eat a dick you faggot. I live there and i'm white.

>>34940272
that's the self destruct trigger in case your'e about get weapon captured by enemy.
>pull off cap
>break wire
>60 seconds to kaboom

>>34938894
>Used by SOCOM
>trash
Pick one.

>>34941556
>government employee using government issued equipment

Try again stupid ass

>>34937745
>$550

kinda overpriced

>>34938894
You do realize aimpoints have worse thermal drift than holosuns?

>>34943462
Yeah go put in your citation for that first you dumb piece of shit

Thermal drift is a factor to consider for pretty much all optics

We can throw out thermal drift from our considerations and the eokek is still trash- yeah have fun with that shitty battery life and poor quality control from L3 dipshit

Thermal drift or not, i dont have a broken aimpoint and even if i did, they wouldn't charge me just to repair their own manufacturing defects

You're a fucking retard

>>34943894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKlJX5wCwL4

It's funny because even though it's a shitty test, both EOTech and Trijicon have released their own testing data for thermal drift but interestingly Aimpoint has not. I also live in Las Vegas and store my EOTech in a garage that goes from freezing to 120+ degrees and I have never had to re zero my optic for thermal drift for the 3 years I've been living here.

I have had an EOTech with a moisture incursion issue that had the reticle fade. EOTech fixed it for free - and this was before it was "publicly known" with the SOCOM lawsuit, even though there was a low key thread about it on arfcom (where everyone else with the same issue also had theirs fixed for free) that nobody paid much attention to. They started fixing these after the same reported 2014 update for sealing their optics.

Secondly, I've had an Aimpoint comp m4 battery compartment break on me just from everyday handling. That's not counting all the other people who've had brightness knobs snapping off, mounts loosening/optics shifting and losing zero.

Would this mean that both companies have utter failures of QC and optic design? It would be nonsensical since the Comp M4 is just as quality of a red dot as the EOTech is.

>shitty battery life
You can go shooting once a weekend for 8 hours a day and still have 3 years worth of battery use with a 512.

Ok faggots, if the EOTech is so bad, what should I buy instead?

>>34944214
Aimpoint

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>>34944258

eotech is now more in line with other weapons on thermal drift (1.5 moa instead of 5), and is still better than most reddots on parallax shift, which is a thing even on reddots. I'll stick with a t1 because i have a t1, but i wouldn't say no to an eotech.

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>>34941576
>Army bought Sig 320
>Army bought Lamepoint
Why are Armyfags so fucking dumb?

>>34944214
Irons. If you're getting thermal drift with iron sights your barrel is probably melting

>>34944283
This.

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>>34944185
>takes off sight
>POI shift

>>34944399
I already said the test is shit, but a reputable sight/mount should hold zero within 2 MOA at the worst conditions for remounting to the same slot. Shifting over 1 inch at 25 yards should not happen.

>>34937758
Is that an obscure XRA reference in my /k/?

>>34944461
>but a reputable sight/mount should hold zero within 2 MOA at the worst conditions for remounting to the same slot.
>cover mount with frost
>try to mount it back
>what can go wrong?

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>>34944540
>Metal surface is uniform in temperature and finish
>frost forms evenly and reduces tolerances
>mount has even less chance to lose zero

>>34944283
And who put foward the safety of use message on the eokeks?

Wasnt the army stupid ass

>>34944185
>muh shitty test is proofs

Okey doeky L3 while we are on the topic why dont you mention the aimpoint pro that survived a house fire? Do you have anything close? Oh no, you dont.

Have fun with that has-been optic that is getting all of their contracts dropped you pathetic shill

>buh buh buh muh eotech can last 3 years if i keep turning it off and on for muh safe queen gun

Lmfao what a sad shill you are- try compensating for eokek's battery drain that MANY people have

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>>34944185
>damagecontrol.exe

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>>34945294

>>34944716
>what is metal contraction

>>34945294
>>buh buh buh muh eotech can last 3 years if i keep turning it off and on for muh safe queen gun
You don't have to turn it off, it automatically does that after 4 or 8 hours which I accounted for.

>>34945333
>implying that would be independent of a temperature change of the optic going from different environments.

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>>34945329
lol did the widdle eokek owner gasp in amazement when his eokek turned on after he dropped it out of it's gun sentry safe home?

how cute eokek shill

2 cents added to your account by L3

meanwhile with news in "companies that can keep contracts":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXdriW3KfwU

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>>34945294
>>34945373
>as tough as a child's toy
This is what aimpointfags honestly think is rugged.

>>34945390
OG Gameboy's are rugged. Why do you think that disproves anything?

>it's that one autistic Eokek shill
Sad

>>34945336
>52 Saturdays in a year
>8 hours every Saturday
>416 hours a year
>eokek 512 can barely make 1,000 continuous hours

lol sure you get to 3 years you fucking idiot.

>>34945390
>eokek is not as durable as a child's toy

lmfao you really think you are clever, don't you?

lol calm down you leet op8ator your iota of a brain is getting overheated

>>34945415
Oh sorry, you're right I was thinking of 556 battery life. It's just shy if 2.5 years thanks for you correction :)

>>34945395
Don't worry, it's all just to """piss off the Aimpoint fanboys""", or whichever excuse he's running with this time for his stupidity

Is there anything that doesn't break out into brand wars on this site?

>>34945448
Mlok vs keymod

>>34945438
>2.5 years for a casual mall ninja with his gun safe queens

sounds right.

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>>34937776
>>34937745

>tempature changes within two degrees
>zero is fucked
> "...you can't stop me"

>>34937776
What's it like being a poor civilian?

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eokek damage control

>>34945469
Just remember to bring changes of batteries for your radio, IR strobe, NVG's, assortment of lights, GPS, etc. that I all presume are all at least 3 years worth of run time minimum for your constant high alert op-tempo.

>>34937929
THe issue is that the zero doesn't return to original poi after temp changes

>>34945496
>moving the goal post

cute.

Funny how you think that you're bringing talking points but you're comparing two products.

Just because eokek suits your mall ninja desires doesn't make it a better product. Try again with the shitty battery life and tell me why a $500+ optic should have only 1,000 hours at the most when the market provides optics with far better battery life.

lol eokek shills are such basketcases

>>34945496
>hurr durr my other equipment is battery intensive so i'd better keep the rest of my equipment battery intensive DURR

eotech shills of 2017

>>34937745
I found one of these and an apparently actually legit Acog for like 80% off, on that deals app Wish, and the reviews actually seemed to support the idea they were legit. Anyone had any success getting optics or any other gear off of wish?

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>>34937776
>i own product A
>Product B performs better than Product A
>Product C can do the same as product B
>muh product A is still good then guis!

The stupidity on this thread

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1 NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

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2 NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>34945533
Because using a holographic laser is better suited for magnification, passive NVG aiming, and parallax correction than a collimated LED enables a larger window for larger viewing angles when encountering poor cheek weld. Also a bonus is orders of magnitude less forward light signature if you're super spoopy black ops.

A collimated LED is better for staying on longer.

>>34945603
Those are fake. I saw even a few service members buy shit at the bazaars in afghanistan thinking they got "the same thing for 1/4 of the price" while clearly seeing his fake ass eotech lens was shaped like a magnifying glass.

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3 NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>34945681
government contracts don't agree with your idea of marginal benefits.

Who exactly won the recent FBI's hostage rescue unit optics contract?

lmfao keep going basketcase

If daddy Garandthumb says its good i'll take his word for it over that of anonymous 4chan users who only praise sights they bought

If they even have one at all

>>34945746
>Hostage rescure
>concerned about adversaries seeing their IR lasers and requiring magnification on their red dot equipped carbines instead of just using variables on dedicated marksman rifles

Yeah man sounds like they were the definitive, destined-to-be, end user that would have used all of those benefits. Meanwhile, SOCOM is still using them because they actually have all those needs.

>>34945802
mean while socom was the one who issued the safety of use alert on the eokeks, you dumb piece of shit.

keep trying dipshit let's see what else you can pull out of your ass

http://soldiersystems.net/2015/11/09/ussocom-evaulates-replacement-for-eotech-sights/

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>>34945812
And yet, they still use them. Isn't that a strange twist of fate? Why not trade them out for the other optics in their inventories for their other SOPMOD II and other specially procured optics if they're so garbage?

>>34945452
What is the actual reason people shit on keymod compared to m-lok?
I've never paid attention to it before and assumed they were roughly equal.

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Don't mind me, best reflex passing by.

>>34945846
>hurr durr why hasn't muh socom immediately replaced a massive inventory of optics in a couple days durr

for one, they actually have choices to cross off. lmfao kid yesterday you probably were mad at muh army picking the p320 too fast and now you're mad at the SOCOM's solicitation times

keep grasping at the straws you piece of shit, SOCOM's spokesperson Allen already said that EOTech is not fulfilling any new contracts with the military’s Special Operations forces.

So if you're fanboi-ing over SOCOM's equipment, why don't you follow suit and toss your eokek trash in the bin?

Oh wait, you were just using SOCOM for confirmation bias you DUMBASS.

So desperate this eokek shill is.

All Aimpoint products are better than EOTech. Hell, even the cheaper vortex red dots are. Anybody who uses an EOTech as anything more than a novelty range toy is a literal retard.

>>34937745
Me too. I like mine.

>>34945888
There was a recent SOCOM test that revealed MLOK performed better in most relevant metrics.

>SOCOM spokesman Allen said the sights are “only used in a role where the limitations of the equipment are not in conflict with the safety or effectiveness of our warfighters.”
>SOCOM proceeds to keep using them in warzones

Also
>According to Allen, SOCOM is evaluating other sights, including a potentially improved version of the EOTech for a long-term replacement for SOCOM’s close-combat sight requirements. Semelroth said the Marine Corps is conducting a similar search and running “a series of tests on its EOTech inventory to confirm performance meets or exceeds the equipment requirement.”

>>34945920
see
>>34946031

>>34940378
ian is a fucking queer who gives a fuck

go back to youtube and reddit shitguns worshipper

>>34946031
>>34946034

cute. an admittance that your eokek is broken lmfao

keep praying to your "updated" eokek that isn't even here

>>34945888
Key mods are usually flimsy compared to mlok and more expensive in general

>>34941516
fuckin mexican trying to impersonate the whites

>>34946034
>SOCOM spokesman Allen said the sights are “only used in a role where the limitations of the equipment are not in conflict with the safety or effectiveness of our warfighters.”

lol sad

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>>34946065
>ian is a fucking queer who gives a fuck

DELET THIS

>>34946034
Clearly based on
>>34946112

the "roles" include only shooting 1 weekend day for 8 hours, rite eokek shill? hahhahahahahhahahhaha

>>34945533
but he's right, if you're just a home defense faggot, and you never want to touch your optic again after turning it on and zero'ing it, aimpoint is what you want. If you're actually using your optic to fight wars, and batteries aren't a concern, then the eotech is the better choice.

>>34945792
this..

>>34945977
thanks for stopping by mr. vickers. Aimpoint has deposited $1.00 to your delta force account

>>34946128
>>34946112
The roles are going into syria. Where do you think that picture was taken?

>SOCOM's spokesperson Allen already said that EOTech is not fulfilling any new contracts with the military’s Special Operations forces.

>According to Allen, SOCOM is evaluating other sights, including a potentially improved version of the EOTech for a long-term replacement for SOCOM’s close-combat sight requirements.

moving the goalposts much?

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>>34946123
Thats one of my favorite videos

>>34946192
>muh warfighters use eokek

Lmfao ok guy let me know when they get that warfighter contract

>>34946278
Lol guy with the confirmation bias x10000

Your eokek is still being replaced, because it is broken

You can amuse yourself with the idea that your eokek might get "updated" lmfao

So funny watching this eokek fag stay mad

Muh thermal drift isnt a problem but when muh socom issues a safety concern you move the goal post and show pictures of them being used

Hahahahhaha eokek shill

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>>34946278
>blatantly ignores the fact that the current inventory of eotechs is being in the process of getting replaced
>still posting muh socom pics
>buh buh buh there r no problems no mo!! Muh warfighter optic!!

Hows that single digit IQ working for you

>>34946335
>the safety notice is a big enough issue to discontinue use of the sight
>the same organization that issued the notice sends dudes to Syria with those same sights among other combat zones

So what is it? SOCOM says they are bad but then continues using them anyway over a year and a half later in active warzones? You're citing safety notices from people who still use them anyway.

>>34946396
>eotechs is being in the process of getting replaced
>including a potentially improved version of the EOTech for a long-term replacement
Reading comprehension didn't make it on your resume, I presume.

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>>34946278
>if i post enough socom pics it negates the fact that socom issued a warning on eotech

>>34946440
>So what is it? SOCOM says they are bad but then continues using them anyway over a year and a half later in active warzones? You're citing safety notices from people who still use them anyway.
>hurr durr let me pretend that socom isnt trying to relace their current inventory

Lmfao the irony of a dumb piece of shit like you yapping about reading comprehension

Keep on going your eokek butthurt is the most amusing thing yet

>>34946440
>eotech needs replacing
>muh eotech socom pics show that there is nothing wrong!!

Holy shit you are dumb lol projection much? So what is it- i thought you spent 1000 posts saying that your eokek is the war fighter option yet you concede that a "updated" replacement is needed

Protip- that updated eotech doesnt exist, dummy, and solitiations for a new optic have already been in the works

Go ahead and cry yourself to sleep

>>34944283
What's wrong with the aimpoint

>>34946506
They're overpriced grabage.

>>34946539
As opposed to the eotech? Hilarious.

>>34946539
"Grabage?" Autocorrect what the fuck?

Fug. Didn't they fix issues with the new EOTech models? Please halp, in the process of buying a second hand 2017 production EXPS 0-2. I can't afford a higher priced optic at the moment but can save...I thought these were good.

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>>34946548
>only laser holographic optic on the market that isn't garbage
>used by MARSOC, SOCOM
>They don't use Aimpoint

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>>34946574
>still ignoring that muh "laser holographic optic" is being replaced
>still ignoring that aimpoint isnt the one losing contracts left and right

Hahahahhahahhhhhhahahahhaha

>>34946563
Yes issue has been long fixed, and trusting ANYTHING BAR15 says is dumb as fuck.

>>34946598
Dunno who BAR15 is, but anons in this thread are shitting on EOTech so much I am starting to regret my decision

>>34946595
>SOCOM STILL uses it
>MARSOC and the USMC still use it.
>only the Army, and not any SF units
Are you done being retarded?

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>>34944283
At least post the whole thing.

>>34945888
Because Keymod didn't include an appropriate amount of material between the key slots to ensure if you smash something it won't break. Look up the Socom tests, it was pretty upsetting.

Good for me though because I hate how Keymod looks

>but all optics have thermal drift!!!

This thread is full of ignorance. Eotech wasnt singled out just for simple thermal drift, which is just a matter-of-fact with rapidly changing environmental conditions.

Eotech has an unreapeatable POI shift which doesn't return zero and compounds over time

Face the facts- eotech is not appropriate for military use compared to the offerings given by aimpoint and trijicon

>>34946647
AR15.com.
Don't worry about /k/ they were dickriding the Sig 320 before a bullet went through their head. Aimpoint is Poorfag tier, then the Army bought them up raising the price.

>>34946676
>muh ______ still uses it!!!

That tends to happen before they replace it, which will happen soon, fucking IDIOT

Amuse me by telling me what new contracts eotech has landed.

You wont because youre a cuck bitch grasping for straws as usual

>>34946697
speaking of ignorance, all those issues have been fixed for some time now in new 2016 and later Eotechs

>>34945681
> passive NVG aiming
Why the fuck are you passive NVG aiming when you can get IR modules for under $1k? Who the fuck does that?

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>>34946697
>they don't use Trijicon
>they don't use Aimpoint
Are you legitimately retarded.

>>34946539
Elaborate with facts please

>>34946724
Lol speaking of ignorance you have zero proof that eotech issued a fix

Otherwise a recall would have been made, as per the request of one of the eotech co founders, and not a complete no-questions-asked refund

But go ahead and keep trying to justify your use of an inferior optic

>>34946697
>I literally don't understand the laws of physics

Keep dreaming faggot

>>34946724
According to who? L3? I'd seriously doubt that considering there was a total voluntary no questions asked refund up.

>>34946737
Optics that are half the price do the same thing, and you're paying for rapeugees.

>>34946733
Seeing as eotech is on its way out the door with u.s military contracts, you sound like quite the retard

>>34944519
yes, thank you for recognizing

>>34946732
>Why the fuck are you using light discipline when we have flashlights you can leave on for 24 hours a day?

>>34946740
They have been fixing optics with those issues for years. When the blogosphere blew up over the socom announcement, L3 did the best they could hope to do and offer unconditional refunds, so as to not make things even worse for themselves (see Sig and the "voluntary upgrade" backlash)

Holy fuck

>>34946771
>compared IR module usage to WMLs
I don't think you know what NVGs are used for, anon. So again, why the fuck are you using passive aiming while wearing NGSs?

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>>34946763
>dubs
>truth
>SOCOM hasn't announced replacement
You are.

>>34946772
That makes no sense whatsoever, sig sauer isn't issuing full refunds but a replacement program because they can FIX their issue

Why would eotech make a fix and not issue a recall but a total refund? That doesnt improve the image of the company nor does it save them money giving back full msrp for old, used optics

>>34946788
>NVGs*

>>34946763
>L3 is out the door on US military contracts
>L3 supplies NVGs to SF groups having destroyed ITT completely
>L3 supplies IR lasers to almost the entire US military infantry and SF
>L3 supplies thermal scopes and modular all over the US military for various roles
>Eotech VuuDuu is a serious competitor in the new variable mag contracts
>Eotech is still being used and new holiday are fixed, having as much thermal drift as everyone else and openly disclosing that information (the lawsuit was over them lying, not that it existed)

I think they will be fine

>>34946788
Enemies with NVGs

>>34946790
Do you even have two braincells to rub together? They've already called for replacements and hasnt granted eotech any new contracts. The inventory is getting replaced whether you like it or not

>SOCOM USES IT!1
This line never not makes me laugh. They're issued what the higher ups and procurement want, and it's looking like the next round of acquisitions is going to be completely devoid of Eotech optics.

>>34946792
Look at how the hyper-reactionary gun community has reacted to Sig claiming the 320 is technically drop-safe and offering an "upgrade" instead of issuing a "recall." Complete hystrionics over semantics.

Perhaps the labor and parts involved in repair outweighed the refund? Perhaps they didn't have the logistics to even be able to do a massive recall/repair program? I don't know and I don't need to know; what I do know is you can search Google and see people were getting their HWS fixed by Eotech as standard warranty service prior to the SOCOM fiasco.

>>34946839
Unless I'm mistaken I believe 2/75 and maybe 1/75 is looking at replacing their EOTech's with the Aimpoint T-2 as an interim until a final replacement is found.

>>34946809
Nobody said that L3 is in trouble, dumbass.

L3 doesnt even care about eotech, they have better ways to rake in uncle sam dollars

>>34946824
Oh man when did that happen anon?

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>>34946856
Is...is that you?

>>34945709
yeah seems too good to be true, specially since most of the shit from that app is from china.

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>>34947022
I can see forever

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/06/20/ussocom-issues-sources-sought-notice-for-new-optics/
Rangers are already using the T2 SF is using the M68, Eokek BTFO

>>34937745
I'm going to get one for my pistol AR, perfect close quarters sight with a sight picture plus 1 moa dot even with magnifier.

How bad are UTG sights? There's a red dot for $50. Is it better than irons, at least? I'll have canted irons.

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>>34937776
Aimpoint also can't keep a 1 moa dot while magnified because the inferior nature of being a red dot instead of a holographic weapon system like the Eotech.

>>34937929
Don't forget that all sights suffer POI shift.

>>34947129
>and here we have Rangers using two optics that exhibit POI shift.

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>>34947196
Now let's look at what they are currently using. Aimpoint master race

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>>34947215
Vortex master race

>>34946878
>L3 doesn't care about themselves

K

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>>34947234
More vortex

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>>34947248

>>34946759
I bought my aimpoint comp m4s for $450, about half what a new one is. The only problem is that it's scratched, but no one cares about the finish so long as it is still tough as nails and holds its 8 year battery life on a single AA battery. How is this bad ?

>>34947248
>>34947264
>sealed cans
that is some expensive airsoft kit

>>34947242
>low IQ turd doesn't understand what "parent company" means

among L3's various assets, EOtech is quite small, idiot.

Eotech is a small part of L3 you fucking mong. They rake in 10 billion in revenue, do you really think Eotech makes up anywhere near a majority of that revenue?

just sit down and stfu, moron.

>>34947279
it's not, anon can barely afford a holosun and is seething at the thought of someone owning something he can't afford

>>34947297
>a parent doesn't want their child to succeed

Your exact arguments could be applied even if eotech was just L3 completely - WELLLLLLLLLL they don't care cause they issue the pvs31 the peq's thermals and all this other shit so they don't care if they lose the holo

>>34947325
>a parent doesn't want their child to succeed
>comparing parents to non-human business entities

lol you're a fucking retard. By the ways, their aerospace and avionics division probably rakes in more cash monies in a day than the peq's/pvs13s do in a year

if i may reuse your shitty analogy, L3 is the parent that prefers to dedicate time to making sure the 4.0 gpa children get into college rather than waste time and energy getting that one drop out child back to school.

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>>34937745
M A D M A N
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>>34947376
Please explain to me why money is not money because your subsidiary is making it.

>>34947400
Please explain to me why companies prioritize working capital?

Economies of scale is a thing, dummy.

>Economies of scale is a thing, dummy

>A market consisting of every infantry soldier on the planet is not a "scale" worth considering

lol just off yourself you fucking aimpoint shill

>>34947443
and their other government contracts don't have an effect on their decisions?
The infantry soldier nor does a collective of infantry soldiers get to choose what uncle sam pays out for L3's various services.

lmfao try again you fucking retarded piece of shit

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>>34947463
>there is only one government contract
>even though there are multiple government entities, for the multiple countries in the world

>>34947522
>eotech landing multiple contracts

yet more delusion from the eokek fanboi

>>34947554
>something that has happened before in history is actually impossible

down the road not across the street bud

>>34947129
>tfw wanted a badass scar
>tfw fell for the 18-x meme so I could go SF just to get a badass scar
>tfw got stuck with the m249 like some kind of chump
>tfw my whole squad is manlets
>tfw have to lug this stupid thing around because I'm the only one swole enough too
>tfw jerry forgot his nods again
>dyel jerry?
>tfw pl8 carrier too small ;_;7

>>34947571
>muh eokek dreams are not dead!

whatever keeps you asleep in your car at night, eokek fanboi- your delusion is hilarity at this point

and in case you were wondering, out of l3's 10 billion in revenue, eotech rakes in about 300 million. You do the math, idiot.

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>>34947582
I didn't come here for these feels but I feel you bro.

>>34947601
You are saying that in this utterly massive company selling an absurdly wide range of products from Airport security devices to commercial avionics to night vision and all this stuff

This single division selling a single line of products, which are gun sights for rifles, makes up a total of 3% of their total revenue?

And this is small to you? LOLOL Actually fucking retarded dude

>>34947726
LOLOLOLOL retard
revenue is not the same as net income.

What do you suppose the net income of eokek is after this refund fiasco?

Literally the only financial advantage eokek gives for L3 is a tax credit.

>>34947746
>literally moves the goal post from his own supplied hard numbers to speculative territory

Thanks for playing Vickers but we all see what you are up to.

>>34947767
>moving the goal post
>projects and does the same

hahhaah uneducated turd calls everything moving the "goal post" after he does the same

revenue was being used as a indication of size, and i did not use conservative numbers because we know how much of a little faggot you are over semantics.

That $300 million revenue figure is a rounding from $220 million, and represent's eokek on its hayday

they definitely aren't making anywhere near that with the lawsuits and dropping of contracts, and because revenue doesn't account for costs, EOkek is certainly making negative net income for many years.

So I prove that eokek is just a tiny entity that does not represent anywhere near the vast majority of L3's business holdings and you call this goal post moving?

LMFAO nice to see mommy lets the retard smash the keyboard once in a while

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>>34937745
I've always liked mine, but I've never gotten a chance to use an aimpoint at the range. Might be my next optic especially due to battery life. This works well though.

>single digit percentage source of their revenue across a fuck ton of divisions and holdings
>TINY ENTITY

and yes you moved the goal post because when I proved your number is actually good, you tried to go "WELL WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS NOW AFTER THE REFUND"

You faggots are still waiting for eotech to die nearly two years later but they are still around and releasing new products

Stay mad faggot, it brings me joy.

>>34947829
>moving muh goal post
>proved that eokek is only a couple percentages ON ITS HAY DAY

lmfao keep smashing away at the keyboard eokek retard. I'm sure your eokek is perfectly fine with the dropping of all of those contracts LOL

keep it up with the damage control L3

>a couple of percentage points is bad for a division that sells one single line of products in a massive conglomerate of hundreds of products across tons of industries

Alright Vickers :)

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>>34947829
>wants to believe that eotech is L3's star child
>offers full msrp refunds on any eotech optic

yeah, i think the facts say something else

>>34947866
did that "couple" of percentage points make L3 care enough to issue recalls instead of full on refunds?

LOL go ahead and tell me how issuing no questioned asked refunds was a business move intended to save the image of eokek

hahhahahahhaha why you so mad about the truth?

keep going eokek faggot, i could do this forever. I'll start a salt mining company with your tears and buy L3 in a year

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>>34947799
>EOkek is certainly making negative net income
>he thinks a company has to actually make money for it to be successful

>>34947908
see
>>34947400

in your own words, "moving the goal post"

Try again low IQ eokek fanboi

>>34947919
Post the numbers showing how much they lost

>>34947933
call l3 then faggot

>>34947939
So you don't actually know?

>>34947919
I'm not even him. Go look at amazon's last decade of red net income and tell me that they are a shitty company.

>>34947950
I'm not about to shift through years of financial statements on L3's website just for an internet argument. You can do that yourself, and if you can't connect two dots, i could care less

The fact is that a total refund on all of your sold products, at full MSRP, will leave you with a bleeding bank account and a ton of used inventory that you will have to destroy

On top of that are the lost lawsuits as well as the large civilian/LEO market. It's obviously bad but I'm not about to measure the impact on financial statements. You can call L3 if you want to be the internet warrior of the day.

>>34945888
Theres some fat blogger who made a good video about it.

tl;dr: if you drop your gun muzzle down your keymod flashlight will mangle it's little tabs and fall off your gun. If it was mlok it would get slid back and bent a bit.

It's pretty fucking academic imo. if you're that worried about it get a quad rail.

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>>34948033
>i could care less

retard spotted, you meant to say you couldn't care less. kys

>>34947992
that "negative net income" was because of major internal investments, not losing lawsuits and refunding products at full MSRP

>>34948076
i could care less.

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>>34948096
>HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT

>>34948103
i could care less still

>>34948077
I know that. What I'm saying is that a company is as successful as it is valued. It's what people are willing to pay for a share. A lot of that translates with net revenue but in many cases like Amazon's it does not. In EOTech's case it's part of a parent company that can value it for reasons other than just simply making revenue, such as a other Government contracts, etc that do not translate immediately just from revenue.

>>34948111
stop it you just want laughing anime sluts

>>34948125
those trips say i'm immune to grammatical errors and you are to give more anime sluts

>>34948033
>and a ton of used inventory that you will have to destroy

>L3 will have to DESTROY perfectly serviceable, used inventory they can easily sell as second hand inventory as the sights function just fine and the POI issue has been disclosed

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>34948137
>eokek bought back old optics in any condition at full msrp to fix them and resell them

lol what a fucking retard you are- just sit down.

>>34948152
>fix them

They don't even have to do that, they just have to make sure they don't need any work and can then sell them as discounted second hand shit

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>>34948137
this guy thinks that the "refunded" eotechs are on sale somewhere?

whew /k/ brings out the weirdos in the summer

>>34948170
yeah, re-selling optics that you were forced to buy back at full msrp and not doing anything to them. Sounds smart- maybe for a fucking retard like yourself HOLY SHIT you are stupid.

>>34948172
>Doesn't think Eotech would offer them to some third world country as a last ditch effort to lock in a sale they would otherwise lose

>>34948187
ok tell me when pictures of eokek shows up in Somalia, stupid ass.

>>34948186
>decide to do buyback to avoid a class action lawsuit because you said your sights don't have POI shifts if you go from Afganistan to the Arctic circle and back
>vast majority of these sights are perfectly functional, working sights straight from the safes of arfcom rangefags or police duty rifles that haven't seen service outside of range time

>these sights need to be completely destroyed immediately as they can not be used for anything ever or else you are a fucking retarded stupid loser

Is it just a common trend that Aimpoint shills are genuine mouth breathing retards? or is it just this thread?

>>34948230
do amuse me by telling me what country eokek is selling "refunded" items without legal repressions. Go on, RETARD.

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>>34948230
>angry eotech shill angry that he missed the refund date cut off

hahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahaha

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>>34948230
>how to anger eotech fanboy

>>34948241
What possible legal repercussions could they face lol? They approve those export permits all day lolol

>>34948278
>still can't name one country where refunded eokeks are on the market

typical retard.

>>34948286
>still can't post any proof perfectly functioning sights are being destroyed

typical retard

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>garandthumb makes a youtube video about the EOTech
>Larry Vickers et. all of the Aimpoint Defense Force come out of the woodworks to go into shill overtime
>mfw

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>>34948337
What does Larry Vickers have against EoTech?

>>34948332
>large quantity of items that can't be sold
>large costs incurred for holding inventory

hahhahahahha if your uneducated dumbass wants to pretend that eokek employees are caressing the widdle rejected orphan eokeks in a large warehouse then go ahead.

Nothing's going to fix a dumb piece of shit like yourself. Like I said, whatever makes you sleep better in that car at night

>>34940272
Holds the battery compartment cap on

>>34948349
He's sponsored by Aimpoint and was a frequently outspoken critic of EOTechs even before the lawsuit.

>>34948354
>can't be sold

Why?