Prospective 2nd Sino-Indian War thread II

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>>34921973
Chinese war-nerds did a geolocation of that recent brawl between Indian and Chinese troops.

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>>34921982

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>>34921989

>>34921995

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/doklam-standoff-china-chides-japan-for-backing-india/articleshow/60117123.cms

>Doklam standoff: China chides Japan for backing India

>>34921982
https://twitter.com/rajfortyseven/status/899168341557891072

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>>34922017
Yes, this part was a critical battlefield/chokepoint in 1962 as well.

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Some maps.

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>>34922083
Forces in the area, estimation by India.

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Reminder that this happened last time India and PRC had a military conflict

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes

>>34922088
>Small scale skirmish blown out of proportion by the Indians including invented numbers and casualties to sooth their butthurt from 1962

My money and support is on India

They train round the Himalayas anyway.

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India has bases and airfields that are closer to the border but China has better infrastructure to bring troops and equipment to the combat area.

Will anything actually kick off or is this gonna be school yard brawls until they get tired.

>>34921973
>throwing rocks at each other

What type of degenerate throws fucking rocks??

>>34922332
'least the weren't throwing poo, they do have kind of a reputation you know.

>>34922312

I'm reading that things may heat up next month.

Also, it looks like China is trying to reach maximum readiness for a potential conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlj_bemurac

>>34922355
How funny, did you come up with that all by yourself?

Anyway, it was the chinks throwing rocks.

>>34922387
Go to :53 if its the same vid I saw earlier and you'll see a flying kick. Best part of the vid.

is there even anything remotely of value in this disputed land?

>>34922426
Nothing

Everything

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>>34922386
>dat HJ-10 missile

I was playing a Sino-Indian War scenario in SP:MBT and those NLOS weapons really change the face of battle.

Literally any tank or bunker that was seen by any of your own units can be engaged by invisible missile carriers hiding anywhere behind ridgelines and valleys.

>>34922437
best post.

>>34922088
wow, where are you going to post next? some curry beating up a chink kid on the playground?

Why don't you post 1962 instead. You know, the last WAR fought between the two.

>>34921973
>dat invisible chinaman flying kick

Too bad we have no footages from the Indian side.

The footages from the Kagil War are still interesting tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544xH9n4mQc

>>34922482
Here's one of a new 155 gun Indian Army is inducting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ync_GRSPJ8c

>>34922536
These guns are pretty good.

Are they air-mobile?

Are India our guys?

>>34922704
They are. But they stand no chance.

NATO volunteer army when?

>>34922714
I don't see why they would stand no chance. They've got more experience in that area, more motivated troops, more recent fighting experience.

>>34922725
Technologically completely outgunned and outclassed.

>>34922714

Would you join up as a mercenary to support India in a conflict if they were taking people?

>>34922730
I don't see a wide disparity in technology. Indian military seem to have most of the new toys.
In terms of sheer numbers though, I agree.

>>34922798
Chinese frontline divisions in the area are better equipped and China's airforce in general is more capable.

>>34922767
If I get the job I'm looking at I'd help India by throwing more government funds at them.

>>34922725
China has:
•more long range artillery / MLRS systems
•more updated equipment
•a far better Airforce and the 2nd largest drone fleet
•has better infrastructure leading into that mountain range

India can reinforce the area quickly if the gloves come off, as they have more units organic to the region, but that advantage drops off the longer the conflict (and prior standoff buildup) continues.

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>>34922767
Only if I can bring my own gun.

I dont want to use anything that has to do with the INSAS

Do Gurkhas fight for India?

>>34922862
>a far better Airforce and the 2nd largest drone fleet

How do those do at that altitude though? I thought the altitude made a considerable difference.

>>34922884
The air is thinner in the Tibetan plateau where China's AFBs are.

This just means that the planes need a longer take-off distance for the same payload.

Shouldnt be a problem, tho, as the Chinese bases there have super long runways (5km+)

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>tfw Ace Combat over the most aesthetic battleground

Who is the aggressor?

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>>34922932

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>>34922936

Tell me about the Indian armed forces

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>>34922884

Indian Army has 7 Gurkha Regiments who recruit from both Indian and Nepali Gurkhas.

>>34922962
Cool. Gurkhas seem like good lads, even if they've been exaggerated to meme status.

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>>34922957

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>>34922942

Lhasa AFB

>>34922957
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Indian_Army

I wonder how much the Indian army owes to the Brits

It must have made a difference

>>34922932
>>34922936
>>34922942
>>34922986

Bet that this terrain would allow for a lot of dog-fighting.

BVR is kinda hard in mountainous terrain, as one could easily evade radar lockon and missile by flying low there.

>>34923059
I wonder how many crashes there will be

>>34923070
A lot.

90% of the people score in DCS PvP in the dog-fight mode over the Caucasus mountains is to fly the enemy into the mountains during turning fights.

The mountains are legit weapons.

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>>34923049
Indian Army is the direct successor of the British Indian Army. Same structure, traditions etc. Only difference that they fight for their own land now.

>>34923091
Must be a scary thing to do, dogfighting there. How do you even train for that?

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>>34923192
Flying and fighting in the area

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>>34923223

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>>34923297

Is it actually likely that there will be a war?

>>34922867
Good news for you. Indian craftsmanship is so shit even the poos gave up on themselves and went back to AKs.

>>34921973
I can just picture the chunks marching to "ching Chong Chang clang bang pots and pans" and the dotheads to "poo, poo in the loo, thank you come again, poo, poo in the loo."

>>34923367
Nope. Pooh Bear cannot look weak at this point of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_National_Congress_of_the_Communist_Party_of_China

>>34923393
Are you ten years old?

>>34923433
That's even more reason NOT to have a war

>>34922867
There's literally shit under the sling. The only good thing from India are the rare hot porn stars like Priya rai. The rest of it can be nuked. Ugly women, shitty culture, terrible food, god awful smell. I pray the chinks kill those elephant jockies.

>>34923448
Nope, just hate both groups. Chinks and dot heads are subhuman.

>>34923513
Yeah, sure. All of those things are worse than chinks who are constantly attempting to undermine other countries and the west.

There is no situation were India is the bad guy in this.

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>>34921973

Any chance the PLA will field deploy their exoskeletons?

>>34923513
>Priya rai
>Hot

you have "shit" taste

>>34923549
We can hope, because they'll inevitably fuck up.

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I stand by China because they have the cuter weebs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1TCgBdC14Q

>>34923536
Both groups suck, but chinks are less shifty and shitty than the shitskins.

>>34923552
You're gay, she's a hot piece of ass. That retarded wailing she does is annoying but that bitch is down for freaky shit.

>>34923616
>chinks are less shifty and shitty than the shitskins

On what fucking planet are you living.

I've been to both countries and chinks are a whole lot worse.

>>34923616
No they arent, Indians just think they are crafty and not transparent. It's like when you know a 6th grader is trying to pull one over you vs the Chinese who actually can do it.

>>34922914

Though, that will mean it is easier for India to degrade the Chinese sortie rate with missile strikes, since the length of unbroken runway needed for a fully laden takeoff is longer.

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This would be the most fucked logistics war ever fought. The himalayas are a fucking nightmare for roads.

>>34923059

Also, those long range SAMs China has won't be that useful, as they will have massive blind spots due to terrain.

>>34922932
The mountains around that area is pretty much the Round Table.

>>34923653
They're both shit. I wish the japs had killed off all Chinese and then worked on removing indians. They're truly not human to me.

>>34923698
You sound like a great person.

>>34923648
But the beauty of the chinks is that they're hilariously incompetent. Look at the sino viet war in the late 70s. The gooks gave the chinks a spanking.

>>34923700
You sound like a fag who loves minorities like a queer. Those people need whites to rule them. Now with technology the way it is, the lesser forms of humanity should be removed.

>>34923708
Yeah, no.

You might want to read a history book or two.

>>34923681
Imagine moving a convoy through those roads with mud slides, rock falls, roads giving way. You finally get over how scary that shit is and then look up and hear someone scream "incoming".

ain't shit you can do on those roads, just gotta close your eyes and wait for the surprise

>>34923367

No, but the very fact it is so unlikely makes it more likely than it should be. Both sides are milking this for jingoistic rabble rousing, but don't want war. However, if blood is drawn and things escalate tit for tat, they might not recognise the risk and a local conflict could break out.

>>34923722
With abortion as cheap as it is, why did your mom choose to have you? I can still perform a post birth abortion if she likes. I'll only charge 60 cents, enough for 2 rounds of 45ACP.

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>>34923725
I've been on those roads generally when I visited and it really is bad enough already, yeah. You can literally block the entire way from one place to another.

Pic related was on a road when I was in a taxi trying to get from place to place. There was literally no way past it, as it was a steep drop to the side and it was taking up the whole road. To this day I have no idea what they would have done to fix it. I just walked past and got a new taxi.

One shell hitting the road could take out an entire supply line.

>>34923725
Just imagine one of those trucks breaking down or rolling and pausing a convoy for hours. That'd be terrifying.

>>34923725

I think it would be hilarious, kind of like the Austro-Hungarian Vs Italy front in WW1, two semi competent armies trying to bury the other side under an avalanche/rock slide.

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>>34923722
>lesser forms of humanity
>Gooks, chinks, and zips on average have higher IQs and live longer

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>>34923681

>>34923725
It's weird, you can actually make the case that you'd be better off just using troops on foot.

>>34923775
Muh culture
muh Jesus
muh based Viking heritage

>>34923741
Like any of you kids have guns.

>>34923784
>One part that's flat
>Implying that represents the whole area

>>34923784
Cherrypicked photograph. Terrain still dominates, and that road is fucking asphalt. Asphalt looks nice when it's fresh, but it doesn't even stand up to weather in the US, Cancuckistan or Eurabia.

Truck traffic really trashes asphalt.

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>>34923792
No I was just alluding to the fact that the Chinese side of the mountains have better roads.

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How well can helicopters operate in those areas, would they be useful for air assault and resupply?

>>34923808
That's all very well, but one well placed shell and that shit is unusable

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>>34923784
>Himalaya
>Posts picture of FLAT Tibetan plateau

>>34923817
Oh yeah of course, but honestly whoever goes on the offensive through the mountains first is going to get destroyed and areas where passing is much easier are going to become choke points where whomever has the long range firepower advantage is going to win.

>>34923741
Your mom charges less at her nightly street corner

>>34923839
Difficult to say who that is though.

Honestly a war there would be so much of a clusterfuck it's difficult to say how it would go.

>>34923760
It doesn't matter to the poos. They'll just ditch the trucks and make their slave castes carry their shit instead.

>>34923816
Only light helos

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ybkTzTxzo

>>34923893
Jokes aside there is a point in saying that Indian soldiers have more experience there.

If it became a matter of fighting on foot it's easy to see that India has the upper hand.

>>34923906
Given how corrupt and incompetent both sides are I can see it becoming like the Asian version of the Ethiopia vs Eritrea war.

>>34922935
Depends who you ask.
India says China and intervened on Bhutanese behalf.
China says India as (>>34921995) map shows China still being on "their side" and India lightly invaded it.

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>>34923775
>widespread disease
>human waste in the streets
>tuberculosis a leading cause of death
>higher IQs

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>>34923906
Yep. India has actual combat experience in the terrain from fighting the Pakis in 1999.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

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>>34923513
>terrible food

>>34923943
>human waste in the streets
Bruh, you can't tell me city folk in America or Europe don't shit in the streets. Also tuberculosis and street shitting is mostly a thing in India/SEA. Oriental/East Asian countries suffer from drastic urbanization, same shit that the west went through in the industrial revolution.

>>34923788
haha....hahahahahahaha

I bet I have more than you.

>>34924010
Most people have only had the sanitized, safe for consumption westernized version. Authentic poo is disgusting and the spices are used to cover up rancid ingredients.

>>34923851
you're right. She'll just get a coat hanger and strangle the life out of your worthless body.

>>34924040
Hmm. That must be why when I visited India the food was delicious.

>>34924025
Yes i can tell you that people in America and europe do not shit in the street you deluded fuck

>>34924025
Homeless people do that but they're like stray dogs.

>>34924053
You probably ate at a touristy restaurant that caters to idiots who visit that shithole.

>>34924070
Yeah, sure I did. Like the time I ate in a random guy's house who cooked it for me.

Maybe you shouldn't act like a colossal faggot telling everyone that their own experiences are wrong despite not having any of your own.

>>34924056
lmao no. Having been to Paris, New York, and many other cities; people do shit on the street, especially the subways.
>>34924057
Yeah most of it is homeless people but I have seen some non-homeless degenerates pop a squat in a New York alley way at night.

>>34924111
There's your problem, new York sucks.

>>34924077
Says the shitskin. Get back on your elephant, apu.

>>34924077
Since you've experienced it, what does human fecal matter taste like?

>>34924031
Doubt it kid, I have almost 30. But sure whatever. You and your boyfriend need to leave this thread. Go have lgbt pol foreplay somewhere else.

>>34924129
>There's your problem, new York sucks.
And? I said westerners shat in the streets, and New York is included. Obviously not to the extent of India or 3rd world countries but it happens.

I am amazed at how every single one of these china/india discussions always boil down to indian food.

Just a quick thought, if indian food is horrible, how did it end up being one of the most popular styles of food served in the UK

>>34924156
Yes but you don't immediately think street shitting when you mention a western country. India is famous for it.

>>34924159
Because brits have such bland food that they think curry with a side of food is good.

>>34924177
Of course, but that evades my initial post which only includes east Asians.

Wow, what a great, weapons and warfare related thread.

>>34924159
>UK
>having a decent palette.

Pick one.

>>34924159
Have you seen British cuisine?
And have you seen their teeth?

There is a reason why we in the rest of the continent keep a distance away from the Bongs

>>34924219
The levels are quite on opposite ends if the spectrum. Like quality of movies between the two. Bollywood pumps out more movies than Hollywood but the quality is pretty bad. Poos can't do anything right except shit on roads.

>>34924226
/k/ has zero knowledge of anything apart from US military, so everything just devolves to funposting.

>>34922821
A well equipped Chinese thrust into India would still be a mess. In order to secure significant peace terms China would have to push to the Bangladesh border to cut off a portion of India.

>China forced to overextend into hostile territory
>Local population will sabatoge an already poor infrastructure
>China forced to supply an army and a local population. Half of which will sabatoge the Chinese every minute. The other half will beg the Chinese for money and food.

Considering Chinese experience being limited to senarios in which Chinese would be the spoken language means China will be ill equipped and prepared to deal with a civilian population.

>>34924277
I blame Americans in general. The standard of this site would be so much higher if we got rid of them all. Even if a few of them are decent, the good ones are vastly outweighed by mouth breathers like >>34923722

>>34924056
I don't think you've ever been to any country in the mediterranean man

>>34923681

Not really. If the area was considered absolutely critical to defend, anyone with brains would just build tunnels all the way through. While they obviously wouldn't be impenetrable, there's no reason not to do it when you can get supplies anywhere.

>>34924335
>Tunnels
>Through massive mountains

I don't think you quite understand how big the Himalayan mountains are.

>>34924319
I dont think you ever drank tap water without planning to win the local projectile diarrhea contest

>>34924358
>local projectile diarrhea contest
That reminds me,

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fbb_1468427522

>>34924291
Sorry can't hear you over my country planting its flag on the moon and awesome gun laws that you fags will never have.

>>34924385
Maybe you should stop constantly screaming and try to learn some shit about other countries.

It's ridiculous how much Yanks have a tendency to "let me tell you about your country" despite never setting foot over the border of their own.

>>34924145
>I have almost 30
did they cost 500 bucks a piece just like a week with your mother?

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>>34924397
>Americans shouldn't tell me about other countries.
>Tell us about our country

>>34924397
>and try to learn some shit about other countries.

But why? Do other countries really matter? Are they relevant enough to be worthy of study?

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>>34924291
>4chan standards
>Better without Americans

>>34924457
/k/ is almost all 'murica strong posters though.

>>34924397
Because we run the world, you just live here. We da police. SHU program nigga, you'll be playing basketball in Pelican Bay. King Kong ain't got shit on us!!!

>>34924448
Nope, they just wish they were us, hence the shit talking. It's sour grapes.

>>34924448
This. I never understood all of those insecure third-world shitskins who get angered by the fact that we neither know nor care about their countries.

It's not as if we demanded that they do the same for us, so im not sure why it's so provocative the thought that whatever country he/she comes from may be entirely irrelevant, all things considered.

>>34924257
Okay? Do you have poor reading comprehension? Again, my initial post only mentioned eastern Asians, which does not include India. I know India is a shithole.

>>34924482
>I never understood all of those insecure third-world shitskins who get angered by the fact that we neither know nor care about their countries.

Maybe it's because you go into threads about those countries and then shitpost them to death with your dumb, uneducated opinions.

>>34924397
This assumes that there is complexity in other cultures.
Most of the time this is greatly exaggerated. The other times the complexity is centered around fucking other people over or some sort of manpower based cuisine that only came about due to their historical material shortage (most of these practices are outdated as their produce inevitably shifts toward a selection similar to other countries, yet they maintain these traditions without improving upon them based on the vastly more varied produce they have today, because non-whites are actually the most racist people you will ever meet - most of them were just racist for so long with such a large group of people they'd never seen a nigger before since their ancestors of fifteen generations ago decided people who don't look like them are bad news). There is no exception to this. Hell, americans are even better at wasting time than whatever shit skin you wanna talk up. We invented cable television, while even the supposedly cultured british are stuck with state controlled media. Oh they'll bitch and moan about it, decades ahead of time, but in the end the all just bend the knee - because they're not americans.

>>34924479
It's funny how America does patriotism differently to everywhere else.

Americans think they're the best and tell everyone about it. Everyone else thinks they're the best and doesn't feel it needs to be said.

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>>34922932
2nd front when?

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>>34924502
Yeah, but why are you this mad about it? Have you forgotten what website this is?

>>34924524
Nah. I remember what website this was.

>>34924524
>i can say stupid shit and should not be corrected based on the nationality of the creator

fuck off will yah?

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>>34924479
Sounds like you're the problem Anon

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>>34924533
>He takes 4chan shitposts this seriously

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>>34924521
You'd act differently too if you were number one. They don't actually think they're the best, and they know if they said it, it'd be wrong

What a terrible thread.

>>34924502
If they were worth knowing about, we'd make an effort to do so. When you do all the awesome shit we've done, then I'll pay attention. Same reason I don't learn all that retarded fag terminology. I don't care what genderqueer or nonbinary are about because that stuffs stupid and irrelevant to normal people like me.

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>>34924547
>mfw I just responded seriously to shitposting

christ I'm losing my mind thank you for this wake up call

>>34924559
>If they were worth knowing about, we'd make an effort to do so.

Who do you think you're kidding?

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>>34924588

Reading about this it seems to be more about Bhutan than India. I wonder why they're so bothered.

>>34924591
Not joking. America has changed the world directly in the last century. We defeated communism, helped defeats the nazis, landed on the moon several times, exported our culture to the rest of the world. When you think of movies, American movies are the first thing that'll pop in your head. We import your best actors and models because pretty much every other country wishes they had it as good as us. We just kick ass and deep down you know it. You're welcome for the Internet, polio vaccines, tv, freedom and whatever else we bestowed upon you through our benevolence.

>>34924622
>We defeated communism

Stopped reading right the fuck there.

>>34921973
both india and china use 7-10 types of combat aircraft why is that
from mig21s and mi21 clones to 5th gen
at least china produces its own but they still have a lot of types
and indian mix of russian and french and homemade must be a logistical clusterfuck

>>34924557
That's what happens when you discuss loser countries.

>>34924642
Aren't all "developing country" armies a clusterfuck? They have the money to fund it, but not the experience and logistics to make it consistent.

>>34924633
Sorry but we won the cold war. USA still exists, USSR is a lose relic. Sorry, you commie, your side lost.

>>34924642
Because most countries keep around equipment from back in the day? You know we still have M60 in reserve with some specialized variants in service right?

>>34924663
you can really compare china and india to like iran nigeria or indonesia
they are after all in there own right "great powers"
with nukes and a ability to produce there own planes

>>34924692
>produce there own planes
>India
hardly kek

>>34924608
I'm wondering what the escalation will be. Do either country have the infrastructure to rush a large number of troops in right away? Would it be easier for china to land its troops in India by sea rather than try and slog heavy equipment and troops into mountains? Move through Bangladesh to establish supply routes?

>>34924671
>we
who are we
yes but US air force has like 3 fighters and its the biggest af in the world
UK france germany have 1-2
russia like 5
but india has 7 and china like 9-10

>>34924707
>We
My b, the US. My point was most militaries keep old stock around and China has foreign planes that were used for R&D back in the day.

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>>34921973

Can this just fucking escalate already!?
The two most overpopulated, disgusting nations on earth desperately need to wage war for my entertainment.

>>34924763
I wonder if the poos develop a literal shit cannon.

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>>34924844
It is their magnum opus! So gargantuan, that it must be transported via train, and uses the hundreds of roof-riders' excrement as a mobile ammunition supply deport.

>>34924890
That image is funny anon, thanks.

>>34924763
>Be India
>have Holy River
>Holy river looks like a septic holding pool

WHY?? I live in the rust belt and when our river caught on fire we at least learned and cleaned it up. How much would a net every few miles cost??

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>>34924992
>Be Pajeet
>Son dies of dysentery
>Cremate son and dump ashes into river
>Father dies of dysentery same day
>Too time consuming to cremate, have to dive into sewer all day today at work
>Toss father's corpse into river
>Oh shit, have to bathe before work!
>Neighboring Patel had to dispose of week old rotting holy cow
>Dumps it in river
>Remove loincloth and enter holy waters to bathe
>Patel's wife's corpse floats by
>Take a piss and shit, rub self down with loofah found in floating trash pile, using leftover ashes from earlier as soap
>Have no conception of what soap is
>Get out and dry off with loincloth
>Forgot to wipe ass!
>Wipe ass with loincloth before putting it back on and going to work

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another train crash today on poo slicked railstock

how can the chinks ever compete

>>34922129
t. chicom errybody

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The most diplomatically acceptable military option would be a limited military operation targeted at the Indian troops on or across the Chinese border, with gradual escalation options available to respond to any Indian counter moves.

I think the 'trap' China is worried about is that India doesn't respond to the initial Chinese military operation and play the victim card while getting some western governments to play along for the home crowd to put on a show like how India was ready to rain fire and fury on China, but was talked out of if by the peace loving westerners for the greater good or some other BS.

40 Indian nobody border guards getting machine gunned or turned to pink mist by artillery would be the kind of rallying point and allow Modi to cement his position and entrench anti-China forces in Indian government and public leadership, while at the same time not taking too much beef for a military loss. It will also leave enough doubt for the Indian chest thumpers to think they could still take China in a fight.

That would be the worst of all worlds for China, as it would achieve nothing militarily but suffer huge damage it's reputation thanks to the western central MSM propaganda alliance; while Modi entrenches his power and makes India overtly hostile to China.

>>34925268
Chink troops should be only armed with rocks because they have everything to lose if they start the shooting war.

>>34925268
most intelligent post in the thread.

Basically, China is in an akward position here. 19th party congress and MSM on India's side.

But I guess Xi is willing to escalate after the congress and if Indian troops do not pull back unilaterally.

I guess the chinese endgame would be to take some territory and then negotiate a mutual withdrawal - unlike 1962, where the Chinese unilaterally retreated and enabled the Indians to claim victory in their head-canon, despite just having been trashed.

>>34923612
Do poos have cute weeb at all?

>>34923612
super cute feet.

>video

first time when tighhighs actually looked good in 3D.

why are they fighting over this useless land again?

>>34924992
3000 million tons of sewage a day, the problem is beyond nets.

So the Chinese would totally kick pajeets ass right?
I have an irrational hatred for Indians.

>>34925268
Not exactly. The decisions of the 19th congress have already been made and India is isolated from the Western nations because of Pakistan.
In many ways, India is very geographically disadvantaged.

The main problem here is that a limited victory for China would not bring strategic benefits. The Chinese already got what they wanted when the Indians argued that they can intervene for a third party in disputed territory. Now China can use the same argument in Kashmir and Sri Lanka against India.
Best result is an agreement to return to the status quo, stop the road construction, and start back up in a few years.

>>34924053
You sound like a poo, back to your shithole

>>34924278
>not slaughtering the stray cattle that wander the streets for food
>not dickwaving chinese superiority by literally killing sacred cows

>>34922437

Kingdom of Heaven was a good movie.

Shame the theatrical version was so shit.

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>>34924159
>English cuisine
>Perpetual stew, boil whatever the fuck you throw in

Anything's better than that.

>>34925969
Those cows are literally skin and bones and filled with plastic. They are sacred in India but your average joe is too poor to feed the cow. Whoever decides to cook up a cow is not going to get much out of it except pissing off locals.

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>>34922275
Looking at this rail map, I'm not so sure thats true.

>>34926612
I thought they built a railroad to Tibet years ago. Not sure if your pic is up to date

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>>34923722
>You sound like a fag who loves minorities like a queer
Whity are the minorities in China, you deluded faggot.

>Those people need whites to rule them
Have you ever left your basement yet, Mr. 60%? Your race are going to be displaced, buddy.


China is your savior actually. Bow down and your dying fluid genders race will be saved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNnHPQh6pIs&list=PLKWhfOFddvwn2s0lMwGF0SRgcKVgUjRIA&index=56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKsKzI3fdMs&list=PLKWhfOFddvwn2s0lMwGF0SRgcKVgUjRIA&index=65
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-K1_SUptH4&index=55&list=PLKWhfOFddvwn2s0lMwGF0SRgcKVgUjRIA

Are we thinking it's not going to happen then?

>>34929120
Mostly, no reason for either side to start anything right now, too expensive and too much at stake. Give it 20 years when India is kind of approaching China interms of economy and China shifts down before they blow out thier economy. If either if those things dont happen there might be a happening

>>34922798
India is undergoing extensive modernisation, but they're only now actually inducting their new equipment. Almost all of their actual in service equipment is out of date. Their main mbt (2000 in service) is the T72M with an updated FCS and some ERA. And about half their T72Ms are still in original "Baghdadi Highway" condition.
They do have a good number of Arihant 1s in service (200) and are starting to get some units on line with T90S's. The PLA has ~1000 Type 96's and about 1000 more 96A's, which are of a 1997 vintage. These are the PLAs line MBT, with elite units outfitted with Type 99/99As. Indigenous copies of the T54/55, heavily upgraded, outfit reserve, training and some airborne/marine units as a light tank.
This story is repeated across the board. India is just now beginning to adopt competitive systems. Their next gen stuff is still in development for the most part (Su-57, updated Arihant).
The bottom line is the PLA has been modernising longer and is well into reaping the rewards of these programs, and is still undergoing further modernisation and development with top of the line indigenous systems under development in some areas.
India is lagging behind in many key areas. Their air force is closest to parity, with no 5th gen jets but a sizable contingent of gen 4.5 Su30s/MiG29 (~300) good espirit d'corps and excellent performance in international exercises. They are just starting to introduce the Tejas, an indigenous lightweight gen 4-4.5 fighter. However, China has some 240 gen 4.5 J-10s (or claims to have, but even half this number is quite significant) as well as ~20-30 J-20s comparable to true gen 5 aircraft.
Both sides have comparable AWACS and China's air bases are further from the conflict zone, but China has more and much better SAMs.
Overall a likely initial outcome is a stalemate followed by China taking control of the air in a long war.

>>34923683
But they WILL hamper India from conducting deeper interdiction strikes and attacking Chinese airbases.
China also has lots of short range quick reaction SAM and AAA systems which are actually well suited to mountainous terrain. India has some too, but less.

>>34925434
Both countries have over inflanted egos.
Look at any chinese or indian poster on literally any website. Go to youtube for example, there's propaganda vids from both sides.
https://youtu.be/pnCpqq0QkpY
And this youtube channel is also straight up propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKuaPcDdTkurf01ZnaI7dPw

>>34928349
>these videos

WTF I LOVE CHINA NOW

>>34929480
Indians have 1500 t-90s my man.

>>34929564
>*breaks down*

not anymore.

>>34929572
>implying chinesisum tanks will fare any better

>>34929480
Armour is irrelevant in a possible Himalayan conflict.
Infantry, artillery, air battles are the keys.


Also, the Tank is called Arjun, Arihant is the SSBN.

>>34923049
The glorious red tape is a proud British tradition.

>>34922704

>Are India our guys?

You mean poo in the loo? Hahaha you so funny....

>>34929595
India has a lot bigger helicopter fleet (including mi-8s which are great for high altitude work) , and their air arm is pretty decent. They also have a very credible BM force and a dedicated anti BM corps.

Infantry to infantry their equipment is anaglous but the poos have far more battle experience than the chinks.

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>>34929595
>Armour is irrelevant in a possible Himalayan conflict.
Laughing_Chinks.jpg

>>34929618
Sir Humphrey would be proud

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>>34929628
SmugMountains.png

>>34925434
It's very close to a strategic chokepoint that connects the northeastern part of India with the rest of India. If China controlled it, it would have huge strategic value if only as an observation post. Let alone an invasion vector in the event of a real war.

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>>34929628
Get an up-to-date pic.

>>34921973
yadda yadda yadda

it's all a bunch of fucking nothing you autist faggots

they have had border disputes since anyone can remember

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>>34921973
You have been visited by the Chinaman border guard of flying kicks.

Mad Kung Fu skills will come to you, but only if your reply to this post with "PUT TO POO IN THE LOO".

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Couldn't China, instead, respond asymmetrically? For example, instead of contesting the actual incursion in Dolam, might they employ H-6s armed with YJ-12s, and J-16s, MKK2s, and JH-7s flying from a southern base like Mengzi, also armed with YJ-12s, to completely destroy the Indian Navy in the Bay of Bengal and the Andaman Sea? A strategy such as this, if successful, would be financially costly and embarrassing defeat to India, put India at a considerable strategic disadvantage regionally and, most significantly, be wholly unretaliatable, at least in kind. It would also avoid the necessity of violating territorial boundaries and the types of escalations that this could entail.

>>34930688
i dont think they have the power projection to do that and to do that they will have to cross several countries and i dont think other countries would allow dozents of chinese aircraft in there airspace
imo it could be better done with submarines

>>34929708
thanks!

>>34930688

That would start an all-out war. Do you Indian navy is just going to sit back and let you sink half its fleet? PLAAF and PLAN do not have the power projection abilities to take on IAF and IN in the Indian Ocean where most of their fleet is.

>>34929480
>China has some 240 gen 4.5 J-10s
Stop right there Pajeet. China's Gen 4 fleet is about 3X larger than India's, even accord to low estimation on wiki.

>>34929627
>air force pretty decent
230 MKI with 55% avaliabilty and a few M2000 old fart
>very credible BM force and Anti BM corps
Liquid fuel BM converted from 60s SAM
very credible,LMAO

>>34929480
china has like 3 times the aircraft than india
and much more 4th gen aircraft
250+- j-11 (2014 numbers)
50+ j-16
75 su-27
73 su-30
24 su-35s
400+ j-10
close to 800 4th gen aircraft

india:
230 su-30
45 mirage 2000
66 mig 29

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>>34929729
Get a correct version
200 more horsepower and more info-centric ablity

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>>34930816
J-10 count is at at least 400 by now.
300 J-10A and about 100 J-10B/C combined.

Pic: Japanese tally.

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>>34931067
Hopefully this domestic version ZTQ-15 would get all the goodies as the export one.

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http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-1st-lh-army-aviation-brigade-is-now.html

>The 1st LH (Army Aviation) Brigade is now the 161st Air-Assault Brigade (空中突击第161旅), 83rd Group Army, Central Theater Command
>The great PLA orbat reform of 2017 continues -- the former 1st LH Brigade now has an organic light assault infantry detachment and renamed as the 161st Air-Assault Brigade accordingly. It is no-longer just a battlefield transport arm of the 83rd Group Army anymore.

>To be clear, the PLA has been experimenting with heli-assault tactics in combined arms operations since the formation of its LH (Army Aviation) Corps (here), albeit at a low scale. In 2005, the CMC detached elements from the 149th Mech Infantry Division to form the experimental 155th Special Light Mechanized Regiment as a first step of putting theoretical theory into practice. In addition to the 155th, a smaller Heli-Assault battalion battle group was also created at the Nanjing MR to further refine small-unit, heli-assault operations. Fast forward to 2017, Air-Assault is now part of the ground force's arsenal. More LH units are expected to be converted into Air-Assault Brigades as part the orbat reform.

Now this is an actual force that can be used in such a terrain.

>>34930794

That depends on how far south we're talking but farther south and India itself doesn't have power projection there either. In the regions closer to India, to attack Indian ships, China doesn't even need to send its own fleet. ASBMs like DF-21D and the superior DF-26 can target Indian ships all around India directly from the southwest China.

I can't see China's governing elite wanting an actual war over this. Starting a war with a democratic power over road building in disputed territory will completely undermine China's attempts to position itself as a rational, good faith actor relative to the recently blunder-prone and increasingly unstable US. The fact that they'll kick the shit out of India ironically will just make China look worse.

>>34930688
It would also guarantee a major escalation.
Over some grass, a dirt track and a cliff.

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>>34931449
There won't be a war anon. For a million reasons.
>danger of nuclear escalation
>danger of conventional escalation on a comparable scale to Sino-Indian nuclear capabilities anyway
> the most difficult terrain on the planet, extreme defensive advantage, new troops need 14 days at least to acclimate to the altitude
> fucking useless turf anyway
> India would be humbled, Modi would lose an election
>China would expose herself on Russian and Pacific/SEA fronts
> surprise build-up of troops is impossible, because of the previous acclimation time and both countries have satellites
> diplomatic/credibility consequences
And so on and so on
These threads are meaningless (but enjoyable) speculation.

>>34931161
China cannot even produce a decent utility and transport helicopter of its own design. They have always been lacking in helicopters.

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>>34931584
Z-8 and Z-18, as well as imported Mi-171 are sufficient. Z-20 will also soon be ready.

http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/06/13/recent_developments_in_the_chinese_armys_helicopter_force_111580.html

>In November 2016, Chinese internet sources showed photos of a ceremony in the (former) 13th Group Army of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Army accepting the 1,000th helicopter into the force.

They are quickly improving their helicopter force.

>>34922437
I am saladin

>>34931307

Well China would a surprise attack or escalate the war. You are essentially talking about fighting in India's backyard. If the USAF knocked out some destroyers in SCS, do you think China wouldn't retaliate? Do you think India is just going to sit there and take it? It is true that India does not have nearly half the raw firepower China's capable of, but China will be exerting all that in a region so far from its own bases. Any attack will be limited but successful if done with surprise, but it'll be political suicide and come with the risk of unnecessary escalation. In this case, it'll be better for China not to show up to this fight.

>>34931623
>They

You mean "we", you fucking 50 center

>>34931623

>The Army, however, is constrained by the ability of the civilian Chinese aviation industry to produce enough aircraft and develop new models to rectify shortcomings in medium- and heavy-lift helicopters.

>>34922867
Depends on the unit you will be fighting. Their logistics are mixed and fucked, with some units using battle rifles, other using 5.56 INSAS, some with their AKMs, and some using their new stuff. The INSAS isn't the same as before with reliability problems but a polished turd is still a polished turd

>>34923722
Did every 12 year old from club penguin move here?
Retarded edgy shit everywhere

>>34931776
Yes, and still they have at least 1000 helicopter now.

You dont need that much for a couple of air assault brigades.

>>34931623
>100 z-8s (anaglous to the SH-3) is sufficient

Kek

>>34932132
That is pathetic, the US has 3,500. China is qualitatively and quantitatively inferior

>>34932150
Yeah, and how much does India have?

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>>34924622

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>>34932133
Add to that all those Mi-17s

>>34932170
The Mi-17 is not the equal of the UH-60

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>>34932196
If it can transport their 122mm air-mobile artillery, it should serve them well.

>>34932170
India has 400+ MI-17s and 400+ MI-8s my man, along with all of their other helis.

>>34926115

the theatrical version was so fucking shit. They never explained in there why Balian was so good at what he did, never told that he was a veteran of shitload of campaings where he was one of the main engineers of his feudal lord's forces... the extended edition is one of the best epic movies around.

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>>34932216

They have an actual heavy lift helicopter too, unlike the ching chongs

>>34932216
Good for them. Looks like India has more transport helicopters than the PLA.

On the other hand, attack helo wise, China should be ahead in number with 100+ Z-10 and 100+ Z-19, as well as 200+ armed Z-9.

>>34932285
China also has Mi-26s.

>>34932297
They have 4.

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>>34932170
Z-20 is now also under mass production.

>>34932318
India has 3.

China cannot even hope to defeat Malaysia, yet alone India.

>>34932328
???

Why should they defeat Malaysia?

Malaysia is getting Chinese long range rockets to aim at Singapore. If anything, they are kinda friendly just now.

>>34932323

The Z-20 is not the equal of the UH-60

>>34931040
>Liquid fuel BM converted from 60s SAM
very credible
I thought this sounded crazy, so I looked..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prahaar_(missile)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaurya_(missile)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agni_(missile)

All of them (and all 5 Agni's) are solid fuled. In fact I could not find a liquid fuled BM at all? What the fuck were you talking about you crazy chicom?

Unless you are talking about the PAD, in which case you ignored the PVD and the AAD.

>>34932348
Malaysia has a long term plan to slaughter their ethnic Chinese population, as well as mainlanders. When that happens, any PLA intervention will easily be crushed and given a bloody nose

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>>34932352
If anything, it is.

It's even an improved UH-60, with larger crew and passenger space, more composites and improved rotors.

>>34932352
>The Z-20 is not the equal of the UH-60

It is a copy of the UH-60

>>34932360
Last time when China tried to save ethnic Chinese, they wanted Taiwan to help them and not commie China.

I dont think these ethnic chinese diaspora are any less butthurt these days.

>>34929763
"PUT TO POO IN THE LOO"

>>34923698
Did a chinaman and a pooploo rape your dumbass mother?

>>34932377
Chinese diasporas contain a larger mainland content. In the US, which was traditionally multi-generational descended or 1950s exiles and Taiwanese migrants, the Chinese community is now evenly divided between PRC migrants in the last 20 years

Big official article on the NYT dismissing Indias intentions

https://web.archive.org/web/20170820230730/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/world/asia/squeezed-by-an-india-china-standoff-bhutan-holds-its-breath.html

>India says it is acting on Bhutan’s behalf in the standoff. But its intervention has not resulted in much gratitude here. On the contrary, many in Bhutan feel that India’s protective embrace has become suffocating.
>the latest standoff has inflamed festering resentments over India’s influence in the country. In particular, many suspect that India has sought to block Bhutan’s efforts to establish diplomatic relations and expand trade with Beijing
>“Bhutan has every right to its sovereignty; that’s the crux of the thing,” said Wangcha Sangey, a former publisher and head of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry
>“We have the right to live the way we want to live and to have the foreign relations we want to have.”
>when India ordered its troops […], it seemed to do so without a request from Bhutan
>the authorities have since closed the foot trails to the disputed area. That has shut down an informal shuttle trade with Tibetan towns on the Chinese side of the border. […] trade has become a livelihood along the border.
>Many interviewed in Bhutan expressed more concern about India’s actions than China’s. Some note that one effect of India’s move […] has been to undermine border negotiations with China that could have cleared the way for closer economic ties.
>In 1998, China proposed ceding the northern areas to Bhutan in exchange for the western ones
>last year, the two sides seemed to be nearing a consensus
>In 2012, the prime minister at the time met with his Chinese counterpart at a Group of 20 summit meeting […]. Not long afterward, India cut subsidies to Bhutan for cooking oil and kerosene. The move was widely seen as retaliation,

So much about their delusion the MSM is on their side just because its hostile to China

>>34932297
>200+ armed Z-9.
Is this a joke? Then you might as well count every one of the mi-8/17.

>>34932348
Malays are ten times the warriors that Ching Chong are.

Malay tacticians are descendants of highly advanced noble predators who enslaved many European men and women in the old days while Singaporean generals are only from a historically meek and servile race. Thats why they could not foresee such simple strategies which the Malaysians came up with in response to Chinese arms buildup in the South China Sea.

>>34932421
>India says it is acting on Bhutan’s behalf in the standoff. But its intervention has not resulted in much gratitude here. On the contrary, many in Bhutan feel that India’s protective embrace has become suffocating.
>the latest standoff has inflamed festering resentments over India’s influence in the country. In particular, many suspect that India has sought to block Bhutan’s efforts to establish diplomatic relations and expand trade with Beijing


Nepal Saga - Part Deux.

Same thing happened to Nepal as well.
1. Nepal gets Chinese help after Earthquake and warms up to Beijing
2. India enforces energy and trade-blockade.
3. Nepal moves completely towards China.

>>34932421
It looks like a 1962 brewing up all over again. Indians escalate to feed their populations grand delusions for the next election heist, they laugh off Chinese warning without worry they could escalate a real war, the regime and populace are clueless and seriously believes China fears lie with the Indians or falling for some Indian political wits no one but themself believe in, rather than slowing down and losing on the race with the real players and no one else actually wants to waste his chips for India again, no matter how hard it tries to get others involved.

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>>34932426
200+ WZ-9 armed scout choppers, according to a slightly dated count.

>>34931623
it aint me starts playing...in chinese

>>34932434
Interesting.

This might explain why Malaysia is so silent on China's SCS claims, almost accepting Chinese hegemony in the area, even compared to post-Duterte Philippines.

Impressive display of Sun Tzu here.

>>34932448
Wz-9 is a dolphin. It's a utility helicopter.

>>34932421
India is kind a dick to their neighbors.

Explains why Bangladesh is hating them so much.
Have horrifying stories about Bangladeshi border guards getting abducted by Indian soldiers and sent back in body parts the week after.

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>>34932483
The WZ-9 isnt compatible with the Z-9.

It gave up its passenger capability for electronics and munitions, as well as adding an EO/laser designator turret at the nose.

>>34932421
>big official article
Why do Chinese have a hard time with the concept of free press?

>>34932455
This is the hot garbage google tranny's late gave me

Zhè bùshì wǒ! Zhè bùshì wǒ! Wǒ bùshì yǒngyuǎn de suǒ, yēhéhuá

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>>34932504
Z-9 and WZ-9 in the same regiment: WZ-9 as escorts and Z-9 as transports.

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>>34932504
>It gave up its passenger capability for electronics and munitions, as well as adding an EO/laser designator turret at the nose.

It didn't give up its passenger area, it's still there it can't do both at the same time. The ball is FLIR for the WZ-9A the pylons are bolt on/off

>>34932490

tell us more

>>34932437
>Nepal gets Chinese help after Earthquake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_to_the_2015_Nepal_earthquake

Why do chinks like lying so much.

The blockade was entirely unrelated to the earthquake.

>>34932490
Google only shows Myanmaar abducting Bangladeshis. Have any links for your story?

>>34932572
http://thediplomat.com/2017/02/after-the-blockade-chinas-push-into-nepal/
http://www.newsweek.com/modis-fuel-blockade-drives-nepal-xis-arms-389844

It furthered China's influence in Nepal considerably.

>>34932507
It is "official" from NYT , even though I don't really like them. "Official" does not necessarily equal to "government".

I'm not that anon btw.

>>34932627
Everything is official from NYT when it's an article on their site. No shit.

>"Official" does not necessarily equal to "government".
Not in China, hence the post.

>>34932654
Yeah, but NYT is in America.
No idea what are you upset about...

>>34932610
>year found it easy to cultivate these figures. The other day a senior journalist who covers Nepali foreign policy told me that these days at least 100 Nepali government officials are on all-expenses-paid China junkets at any given time.

Seems like India was right due to blatant corruption.

>>34932677
Not that India doesnt suffer from the same fate.

>>34932672
>No idea what are you upset about...

To be honest I'm more upset at how dense you are than a simple comment about Chinese posters.

>>34932682
Neither is China immune to such a fate

But I would not deal with those in the pocket of my enemy.

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>>34931709
> everyone I don't like is a chinkinese shill
> superpowers don't ever change
> American hegemony is forever!

>>34929763
PUT TO POO IN THE LOO

>>34929763
holy kek

>>34929763
what gun is he using?

>>34931709
Gather round and witness, yung chillins, stage 1: Denial.
> everyone I don't like is a chinkinese shill
> superpowers don't ever change
> American hegemony is forever!
Next, anger

>>34932697
Oh me so sorrly to upset your precious feeling, dense boy.

>>34932725
>>34932783

Ask your supervisor to give you guys different scripts at least ffs. Put some effort into your shilling.

>>34932802
Jesus christ Xi get it together.

>>34932359
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prahaar_(missile)
‘will' enter indian's service
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaurya_(missile)
Fucking retard CM
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agni_(missile)
Shitty IRBM with non-exsitent accuarcy supposed to be Indian nuclear deterance, which means they won't use it in a conventional war.

Mainwhile, the mainstay of you poos' SRBM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prithvi_(missile)
You are fucking still trying to deploy this in 2017 is fucking beyond me.

You know what? Pajeet, even with you solid fuel Agni, you preparation time during all your test were all longer than 2 fucking hours. You are even less competent than piss poor North Koreans.

>>34932412
Judging by his intelligence, he's much more likely a product of inner-bred red neck or just normal nigga/

>>34932975
The impotent rage of a chink subhuman. Amazing.

>>34932975
>‘will' enter indian's service
http://defense-update.com/20130701_prahar_to_replace_privthi.html

>cruise missile
>mach 5 solid stage
Pick one.

>IRBM
Agni I is an MRBM

>talking about prep time for tech validation tests
For what purpose.

>>34923722
They were doing fine until whites came

>>34929763
PUT TO POO IN THE LOO

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>>34930688
KD-20s could easily reach most Indian air bases in the area, as well as their naval ports when launched from Tibet.

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>>34933272
And with their latest ImIR seeker upgrade bringing them to the level of the TACTOM, they could also take out Indian Ships.

>>34923722
God damn dude take a chill pill

>>34933093
>muh I'm good you are bad
Is the how retards react when they can't say anything useful and logical?

>>34933272
>>34933278
India has cruise missiles that could do the same, most likely not smart to escalate like that.

>>34933095
>After 17 years in service, the Prithvi I missile "will" give way to smaller and better Prahar
>prahar_"to"_replace_privthi.html
>India "plans" to withdraw the Prithvi I tactical ballistic missile from active service
we all know how indian plans work

>you source listed as CM hybrid
I have no idea wtf does that mean. Is this something you poo develop since you can't develop a proper hyper-sonic vehicle?
Anyways, the deployment of this thing is still a plan, in Indian time of course, which is likely another 3 decades.

>talking about prep time for tech validation tests
>For what purpose.
Not like nork wasn't doing a test.
Long peperation time of your nuclear deterance ,exposes the either the technical inferiority or insuffcient readiness of your rockery force.

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>>34933351
They have the export version of the P-800 iirc. Interesting launch sequence

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>>34933409

>>34933409
>we all know how indian plans work
They were removing privthis at the time of the article.

>I have no idea wtf does that mean.
It's "I have no idea wtf that means", and Google ATACMS. Solid state missile that's non ballistic.

>Anyways, the deployment of this thing is still a plan,
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/india-successfully-testfires-shourya-missile/article2482010.ece?homepage=true
Production started in 2011.

>Not like nork wasn't doing a test.
Tech validation testing is not the same as operational testing.

Please stop posting, your retardation is making me defend poos.

>>34933448
They have what the p-800 is based off of, yes.

>>34933470
>They were removing privthis at the time of the article.
They were "plan" to remove privthis at the time of the article.
And Privthis II which is essentially the same old fart is under feild testing in 2017
You didn't even realize that Privthis exists, stop pretending you are an expert of some what.

>ATACMS
that's a BM you twart

>http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/india-successfully-testfires-shourya-missile/article2482010.ece?homepage=true
Production started in 2011.

Mass porduction started in 2011, while the supposed test in 2016. Very credible Poo

>Tech validation testing is not the same as operational testing.
Oh, somehow Nork wasn't testing their ICBM for the first time recently, it was an operational test?

>your retardation is making me defend poos.
Of course you are defend poos, your stupidity pattern matches poos perfectly. Poo confirmed

>>34933697
>They were "plan" to remove privthis at the time of the article.
Wrong, direct quote: "We are withdrawing the tactical 150 km-range Prithvi missiles"

>that's a BM you twart
SSM, flight profile is not entirely ballistic.

>Mass porduction started in 2011, while the supposed test in 2016.
Are you stating you don't test missiles after production?

>Oh, somehow Nork wasn't testing their ICBM for the first time recently, it was an operational test?
What kind of fucked up engrish is this? Try again.

>poo confirmed
Post outlet.

>>34933758
>SSM
Please stop this muble jumble nonsense Pajeet.
SSM simply means surface to surface missile, a generic name for both CM and BM.
>flight profile is not entirely ballistic.
You are talking as if ballistic == parabolic

>>34934566
>SSM simply means surface to surface missile, a generic name for both CM and BM.
Yes, but not all SSM are BMs. The ATACMS is not a BM, it's an SSM with quasi ballistic flight profile. This is not my words, but the armys.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf%3FAD%3DADA451930&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiGy5_muunVAhUojVQKHeX2BJQQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNGFEU-qEvEb8uaPg4pR0xTAYRyR4A

Stop being wrong.