1911

Avoid Springfield and Kimber.

avoid kimber, higher end springfield is good, colt is good if you dont mind series 80

>>34919227
Look at the price on the sticker and google it real quick to get an ideal if the price is comparable to others. As for brands to avoid, I cant help much with that, I would avoid anything under 500 though as quality will likely be lower. Best bang for my buck has been the Remington r1. Should be able to get for around 600 and its a decent 1911.

>>34919264
>>34919251
I've always heard the Kimber is shit meme, but I've known a few people to buy one and they've always been happy with with. And of theirs, what I held and/or shot seemed to be as good or better than similarly priced 1911s

>>34919227
Rock Island if you're looking for them on the cheap.

>>34919306
Second. RIA, I've found, has a much better fit slide and frame than most any other 1911 sub $1,100. It's weird but they make a solid 1911.

Everything else if it is not to your liking can be purchased aftermarket.

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>>34919328
Honestly if you want to crunk out a RIA you might as well just buy a nicer 1911 from the get-go, like an Auto Ordnance, or a much nicer Dan Wesson

Or maybe a Deagle Brand 1911, if you don't mind the stupid-ass billboard on the slide. They're quite nice.

How does an auto ordinance 1911 compare to a rock island?

>>34919227
Has anyone tried the Palmetto State Armory 1911s? On sale the price looks right and they look sharp but I'd like to hear some reviews first

>>34919351
The desert eagle 1911s are made by Bul in Israel

>>34919531
Yeah?

>>34919294
Kimber had some QC issues back in the early 2000s, but they were blown way out of proportion, probably because they are relatively expensive. Most other companies, including Glock and Colt, have had similar issues. Any kimber made after 2010 is going to be of better quality than a similarly priced springfield or colt, and isn't going to give money to an anti-gun company.

>>34919567
Yup they're supposed to be good
I had wanted one of the competition Bul models- they were being imported by a different company but that company went under it seems

>>34919227
Remington makes a decent basic bitch 1911.

The nice thing is they are somewhat inexpensive and you can customize em yourself pretty easily.

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>>34919227
What's your budget, OP?

You really can't go wrong with Colt

Also ignore the "if you're gonna get x why not just spend a little more on y" fags in 1911 threads
There are so many different price levels and models out there thay you can just go on forever

>why get an RIA when you could jusy get a springfield gi
>why get a gi when you could get a Ruger
>why get a ruger when you could get a basic colt
>why get a basic colt would you could get a Range Officer
>why get range officer when you could get a nice colt
>why get a nice colt when you can get a entry dan wesson

Ignore those fags and figure out what you want and what price point you want

Op here. Poor fag so $400-450

>>34919865
>Update
Um, you could maybe get a used RIA for that, do you really expect to not get a shitty 1911 with that little money?

>>34919351
>>34919505
My father has a Rock Island, I have an Auto Ordnance. We both had boners for WW1/WW2 spec so we got the cheap-ass GI models.

The RIA is an original style, with a flat spring housing, parkerized finish, and a paddle thumb safety (not mil-spec). It has a lighter trigger than my AO, and I'm not sure if this matters but the extractor nub is a part of the frame, whereas my AO has a welded on nub.

The AO is an A1 with the mil-spec nub-style safety. I got one with a black finish but they also come parkerized. It has a narrower rear sight (the RIA is wider than normal). It is more precisely machined and fitted, also. My only regret is not looking a bit longer for a parkerized one.

Either way they're both excellent 1911's.

>>34919865
>>34919874
Op here

I had been looking at ATI military. I want a full size, nothing fancy, military ww2 ish look alike

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>>34919271
>avoid everything under 500

I disagree with this. I bought my Llama for 350 and have fired about 500 rounds through it already. Hollowpoints and ball ammo. Some of which being brass and steel cased. I had one fte on on some really old ball from the 60s. Otherwise im inpressed with this gun.

>>34919814
Seriously. You could play the 'just a little more money' game until you're looking at a 10,000 fully custom 1911 made out of asteroid steel and moon rocks.

Ignore anyone that says don't get a springfield. What's done is done with their thing in Illinois. If you want to get springfield but don't want to support the company, buy a used one from a gun shop then.

>>34919910
Well, $4.5 million, but the point still stands.

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>>34919294
When I was 1911 shopping, I almost fell for this meme as well. Got this Kimber Ultra Carry II for $750 and haven't had a single malfunction in the 400 rounds I put thru it so far (CritDef HP, steel case ball and reload ball).

>>34919227
Depends on the style youre looking for.

Classic basic look, get a colt. They still make the best quality basic models compared to every other brand like RIA, or cimarron and such that still make basic models.

Suped up with all the modern improvements, get a top end Springfield. Springfields are generally shit, but their top end models are good to go. Another option is Colt since they now make improved ones like the rail guns, combat unit, and m45, but they are expensive.
And if youre gonna spend that kind of money you might as well go custom.

FYI custom from scratch costs only 800-1300 depending on how much you want to spend on the internal parts.

You can get a caspian frame and slide for about 700 on the top end, and parts and barrel will cost about 200.

>>34920206
making your own is completely cost ineffective, I've priced it out so many times and for what I would build I could always get a Dan Wesson with the same features for hundreds less

>>34919814
>Colt
>Springfield
If you want shitty customer service, jacked up prices and BETRAYAL.

>>34919894
Llama has a lot of experience with 1911 and variants so that isn't surprising. How's the trigger?

>>34920206
>They still make the best quality basic models compared to every other brand like RIA
You missed the part where Colt charges a difficult to justify premium for their guns as RIA is a lower budget gun and not comparable.

If you're looking at 1911s in Colt's price range, then you probably wouldn't be considering RIA from the get go.

>>34919963
Bear in mind that 400 rounds is not that much when discussing the endurance of a machine designed for fatigue (1 million is the "if it lasted this long, it'll last forever" number for steels), but it's good to hear that Kimber might be recovering after the name got dragged through the mud.

IIRC, Battlefield Vegas said that the RIA 1911s are not just "good for their price" but "good in general" in terms of how they hold up. Considering that Battlefield Vegas goes through hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition every single month and probably rents tons of 1911s, that's quite an endorsement.

>>34919654
>Kimber is shit
>Colt is overpriced shit
>Glocks will explode in your hand every time
>ARs are pointless pieces of plastic crap used by mall ninjas
>AKs are overhyped pieces of wooden crap used by S.T.A.L.K.E.R. larpers
>Taurus a shit
>Remington a shit
>Marlin a shit
>9mm a shit
>357 a meme
>Shotguns are obsolete
>Mall ninja polymer guns are for tacticool faggots
>Fudd guns with wooden furniture are for inbred retards

Face it, no one hates guns more than /k/, and if anyone here actually based their purchases on /k/ memes, they wouldn't buy any guns at all.

I say buy what you like, and fuck what anyone else has to say about it.

>>34920285
Not really. I am having one built on a caspian recon frame and commander slide with all the options I want. Cost 1300 including the gunsmithing to assemble. I had to build because no one was making what I wanted.

>>34920335
Basic colt 1911 has better fit and finish than any of my friends RIAs. Internals of the 5 RIAs ive personally seen were roughly made and sometimes oversized enough to be difficult to reassemble.

Im not saying these options are cheap. They just are what they are.

>>34921903
>Basic colt 1911 has better fit and finish than any of my friends RIAs
Yes? That is my goddamn point, the RIA aims at a lower price class and it shows. It's not bad, but it IS a cheap pistol.

It'd be like comparing a cheap Röhm .38 to a nice Colt Trooper.
If you're looking at seriously purchasing one of these, you're very unlikely to be seriously consider the other.

>>34919306
Agreed. I got the full sized GI series for 520 something after tax. Shoots well. Apparently it can have trouble with Hollow point rounds feeding right. I've been using FMJ in it and it's had no problems whatsoever

>>34919351
RIA - $400
AA - $600
Dan Wesson - $1100
yeah ok

and after what they tried to do to mom&pop gun shops, FUCK SPRINGFIELD AND ROCK RIVER

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>>34919294
Don't fall for the meme. Everyone I know IRL who has a kimber loves it. and I've heard no reports of jamming or other malfunctions.

Lesson: Don't come to /k/ for gun advice.

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>>34922097

>>34922168
Just the fact that they have fucking plastic mainspring housings means they're shit.

>>34921332

That's because /k/'s opinions come from things that were true 25+ years old but aren't anymore, old rumors, and general contrarianism.

>>34922168
i have one of those for glocks. whats your point?

What exactly goes into a $3000+ nighthawk 1911 to make that expensive?

>>34919921
Seriously. I am tempted to go and buy a shitload of Springfield's because of these Spoony-tier faggots shouting betrayal constantly.

>>34920305

>Colt
>jacked up prices

Maybe for their high end/ custom stuff. You can get a Colt 1991 for around $675 which is like $20 whole dollars more than a Ruger.

>>34923530
Yet their AR15s start at around $800 when the manufacturing quality clearly doesn't reflect this.

>>34923235

Lots and lots of hand fitting.

Hand made goods are always expensive.

Dan Wesson is about the most expensive 1911 that's still "worth buying".

>>34921332
>>34922097
It's not just /k/, r/guns on reddit are rabbidly anti-kimber as well and post >>34922168
every time it's brought up, I think they even have a bot that posts it automatically. I've seen it on other gun forums as well.

>>34919227
>how do i nake sure im not getting ripped off?
Only by getting a deal on a used one
1911s are inherently a rip off
Youre paying way too much for an outdated single-stack gun with an outdated cartridge that costs more than better ones
Anyone stubborn enough to want a gun in .45 after reading this should just buy a used USP in .45 as its infinitely better than a 1911 and most likely less expensive

>>34922908
Even STI's have them and they are considered one of the best.

op here i got a rock island for $390

i saw a realy nice springfeild but i couldnt pull the trigger hehe
and i saw a nice colt but was out of my price range

so i have a cheap lead slinger hope i did you proud /k/ dont send furries to rape me

>>34919227
IMO the AO Parkerized version is the best for being a cheaper 1911 and it's US made.

>>34921903
What is your build list because things like getting the checkered caspian frame adds a lot

>>34923743
>outdated
>9mm is older than 45

>>34923735
>entire internet against kimber

Gee I wonder why.

>>34923743
W...what if I want an RIA 1911 in 9mm?

>>34919251
Springfield for political reasons or because they're actually bad? Springfield 1911s are really just fine

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>>34924919
>Suggesting that the Israeli military is looking at direct support for ISIS as a matter of policy, and not just rhetoric

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>>34924967

>>34919505
I have an ati that i got used for 275ish. No issues. Put about 200 rounds and one stove pipe on reloaded ammo. I just don't like the grip safety but I like it and would be comfortable carrying it.

>>34919894
500 rounds is basically nothing to base quality on

>>34919963
See
>>34925015

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>>34919351
I will never buy a Magnum Research 1911 because of this ad.

>>34925028
But that is the break-in period, when failures are expected.

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>>34924745
45 cant penetrate most car doors and has the lowest capacity of all non magnum handgun rounds
Its only good for silencing and using at <50ft
>>34924884
Maybe its ok if its a double-stack (i doubt it)
But youre retarded for buying RIA or springfield

>>34924669
You're good hickok45

>>34919865
Get the full size ati. Ive put 1000 rounds through mine with 0 failures. I paid 400 for it and it's the most favorite gun I own. With any brand just take care of the gun and it will take care of you, don't listen to any snobby faggots that talk shit about Philippine 1911s

>>34925295

Nothing wrong with RIA. You can fuck right off.

>>34925744
not that anon but they are known to have worse metallurgy and loosen up a lot more than better 1911's with use. fine for a low volume gun

>>34924734
Caspian recon frame
Caspian slide
Wilson combat bullet proof everything
Ed brown short trigger
Novak lo pro tritium

I skipped checkering the front of frame because i prefer aggressive checkered flat msh, and rough texture grips like on a magpul.

Im actually doing a fullsize frame with commander slide, so its a bit more expensive for the slide parts. Also ordered it stainless since I shoot often enough that i have worn the bluing off my full size 1911. Total cost is 1300 with gunsmith assemble

>>34921903
>Basic colt 1911 has better fit and finish than any of my friends RIAs.
it should, for thrice the price

>>34919306
RIA gi's are very solid
i own one and it eats any fmj food ive fed it

get some good mags for it

>>34924917
Political. Springfield 1911s are amazing.

>>34925295
Are you fucking retarded?

>>34925295
What should I get instead? Looking for 9mm 1911 and in the neighborhood of 500

I feel like a ruger sr1911 at 650 is the best bang for your buck right now

should I get a doublestack 9mm 1911 or a hipower?

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>>34919227
Even though Springfield fucked the gun community in IL, their 1911's are still the best entry/moderate level guns you can get. $600ish will get you a 1911A1 mill spec. You'll get a forged frame and slide that can be the basis for a truly custom gun.

I bought a new plain jane loaded back in 2013 for around $650. Sent it to Springfield's custom shop back when they still did custom work. Had a match threaded barrel fitted, front strap checkered, and armory koted the whole gun. Ran me over $1000. I've probably done over $500 worth of more parts and work done to it since then.

>pic related, but not it's current configuration

Stay away from Kimber. You'll pay top dollar for a gun that uses a plastic mainspring housing and grip safety. Their QC has tanked because they rode their name while cutting corners.

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so the real question, anyone hear anything bad about the Ruger SR1911s in 10mm?

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>>34920316
Trigger is very smooth. I have never been a fan of 1911s, but I really do enjoy shooting this one if that is anything.

>>34925015
No, it isnt, but im not basing quality on that. If you actually read my post, you wouldve saw it was mostly me trying to see what fed in the gun and everything i put in it seems to run solid. However. That being said, 500 rounds in 3 months is probably more than half of the armchair commandos on here put through their guns. Including yourself?

>>34919777
what is this?

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>>34925295
>45 cant penetrate most car doors
That sounds like a whole bunch of cockadookey, it's a 230gr projectile, it'll penetrate the average car door (or car glass) with little issue.
Fucking .22LR can pass through car doors.

I don't care all that much for the 1911, and I think .45ACP is overrated, but you don't have to be a galloping fucking retard.

>>34926928
Depends. The RIA 1911 seems to work fine in most people's experience, so I have no doubt it'll work in 9mm. Consider also getting aftermarket magazines.
Depending on if you want a classic look, or somewhat modern features, there's the GI style pistols, as well as the 'Tactical' variant with plastic grips and nicer sights.

Ruger makes a Commander sized 1911 in 9mm, though it seems to start at around $700. Considering the shorter slide/barrel, how 1911s are inherently thin, and it holds 9+1rds, if you were looking for one as a carry gun, it'd fly.
If you're just gonna target shoot, it's less important.

>>34929450
>Springfield milspec
> $600
>forged frame and slide
You yankin my chain?

>>34925295
That's double the stopping power you dumb fuck

>>34919227
Get a Springfield

>>34919294
yeah... don't get a Kimber. Unless u just want to pay double what the gun is worth

>>34930343
0 doubled is still 0.
Kimbers straight the fuck up don't work.

>>34919294
I've probably known more people than you that fell for the Kimber meme, one of my relatives fell for it three fucking times before he learned his lesson. Multiple jams in 150 rounds is not acceptable. The only place I have ever seen one work properly was at the bottom of a MechTech carbine upper.

>>34921332
But Remingtons really are shit.

And don't buy a semi-auto Taurus...

>>34923744
One of the best pieces of overpriced crap?

I'd agree with that.

>>34930387
>t. has never even seen, let alone touched and shot a 2011 or even a Trojan
How sour are those grapes m8

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How much would you pay for a Springfield Long Slide in .45 Super?

>>34930442
$900 but more for the stainless finish

>>34930370
>Unsheathes Taurus pt92
heh, nothing personnel

>>34930442
$800.
But I don't like springfield.

>>34923186
A gun that blows up after shooting +P+++ handloads is a little different than a gun that ships broken from the factory.

>>34923743
USP is
>uglier
>fatter
>shittier trigger
>shittier mag release (built for manlets with stubby fingers. Anyone with normal sized hands will have to curl their trigger finger back to reach it)

Glocks do everything usps do but better.

>>34929453
Other than being fuckugly they're gtg. I want to get one and scrape the rollmark off the slide and refinish it.

>>34919294
I used to work at cabelas and as a employee you could buy kimber guns for 30% off of retail price and they were priced way more competitively then.

>>34919328
Haha fuck off shill

>>34930706
Not him, but you really can't beat a Ria for the price.

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>>34929901
a 1911 made from a meteorite. They are beautiful, but the two glaring flaws are the damn CG logo on the gun. A travesty. Guns like these dont need a makers mark. You know who fucking made them. Its a one of a kind. Or put it somewhere subtle.

The other offense is that damn star pattern trigger. Gaudy. Still, very cool overall. just sorta taken from being a timeless masterpiece to a dick wagger.

>>34930706
Retard.

>>34930873
How about the fact that it can't be fired more than 3-4 times?

>>34919294
No similarly priced 1911s use plastic main spring housings.

>>34930811
Ati is better

>>34919227
For cheaper 1911s (under $600) get a rock island armory or spend a tiny bit more and get an auto ordnance. I chose AO because they're american made, BUT RIA makes a friggin sweet 10mm for around $500, so there's that.

>>34930873
That's such a fucking shame. With a regular trigger, that shit would be a literal otherworldly beauty. That star pattern shit is just so godawfully tacky.

>>34930958
How so? Brittle metal?

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>>34919227
Get this

>>34919510
I own one. I also own a Kimber.

The Kimber is a much better 1911, but also 3 times the price.

I own the stainless PSA 1911

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>>34919894
I diddled one of these last week at my LGS and it seemed pretty well built especially for a cheap 1911. Never owned a 1911 myself though so I am by no means qualified to make any judgements.

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>>34925043
Is... is this real?

>>34925043
As I said, the branding, name and idea is fucking retarded, but objectively, they're quite decent pistols.

>>34923677

>$800

Where are you shopping? There all over the place online for $650-$700 right now.

>>34919763
No they don't. Remington R1 1911s are shit.

If you're gonna customize, Rock Island is the way to go.

If you're gonna shoot it out of the box its Colt, STI (USA made), Para, or maybe Sig Sauer.

>>34933739
>If you're gonna customize, Rock Island is the way to go.
RIAs are nice, but why spend $500 to $600+ on a RIA with custom parts when for $700 you can get something that already has those things and is nicer?

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>>34919894
IS that a newer variant of the Llama Max-1? I have a Llama 1911 as well, with the external extractor.

>>34932889
>gets destroyed by Mark 23
>>34933050
Unfortunately, I don't see how they thought this was a good idea.
>>34933110
I understand that they're decent, they still lost a potential customer over this. I'd wager I'm not the only one who feels this way.

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Not to derail the 1911 express, but does anyone know if RIA's .38 spl revolvers are any good?

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>>34924917
>>34926902
I bought mine before the political shitshow started. I adore it.

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>>34935368
that lack of trigger dicipline..

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>>34919227

Springfield is a nice balance of quality and cost.

If money isn't an issue, I'd probably go nuts and get a STI 2011 doublestack like the Perfect 10 or the Eagle 5.0

>>34935398
>single action pistol
>unloaded

>>34935368

>Springfield
>Political

I vaguely remember them doing something last fall; but I forgot what they did.

>>34935398
>On a single action gun

>>34935436
They withdrew their opposition to an anti-gun bill being introduced in Illinois so they could get an exemption from said bill.

>>34935459

That was it, thanks.

>>34925043
FUCKING REEEEE

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>>34935419
>doesn't make a habit of following basic firearm safety

>>34925227
Break in periods are memes.

>>34925043
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FE9zsc9NQN8

>>34925689
With the 1911 it's hard to fuck it up. The design is pretty basic. Spending thousands on a simple pistol design made no sense to me.

Les Baer/Nighthawk/Bob Marvel/Doug Turnbull
Wilson Tac
STI
Sig
Colt
RIA

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>>34934870
>gets destroyed by Mark 23
In all fairness, H&K had a very excellent pistol to spring from, while Colt hadn't made an excellent automatic pistol (that wasn't an outdated 1911) in so many years, and would continue to do stinkers.

I mean the SSP actually looked promising, it was basically like the 3rd Gen S&W autos over a decade earlier, but apparently Colt decided to just give up on that fucking thing completely since they couldn't get any police or military contracts for it. God forbid you let the market have a go with it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmnyOfCiaUs
Just get a TRP, buy one used if you don't want to give Springfield your dollarydoos.

>>34936392
S&W fucked up by not making the 5906 except for government contracts. They'd make a killing selling them again. It's getting harder and harder to find them.

>>34936461
I thought they did sell them commercially?

>>34930958
you are a fucking idiot. learn to do your due dilligance before you go spouting off made up lore, or as I like to call them, deliberate lies.
>>34932244
no the guy who spoke about it being brittle was a fucking idiot. The guns actually are perfectly functional. There is an entire video documentary about it.

https://youtu.be/cBgWfRVtq-U

>>34919227
Get a dan wesson specialist in .45

My neighbor bought a S&W 1911, his slide flew off at the range because the slide stop sheared. I bought a used Remington and in the couple hundred rounds I've shot, I haven't had any malfunctions. My friends had a few FTFs but I suspect they were limp wristing (one was new to guns in general and the other pretty much only has hunting rifles/shotguns)

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>>34937915
>see picture of stunningly beautiful 1911's, get massive boner
>read they might not be functional
>boner dies
>watches documentary
>boner of a thousand suns
You saved the day, anon. That just made them even more beautiful. Even if that trigger is tacky as shit.

>>34935257
I bought the m200 full size. It's good for the money. My only complaint is that the sights are garbage. Other than that, I've put thousands of rounds through it and ever oiled/cleaned it with no problems.

>>34920206
>Springfields are generally shit
kys, the Mil-Spec is amazing

>>34925295
Car doors aren't that thick homie, 45 will penetrate them and whatever is behind them. There are plenty of videos on youtube confirming this.

>>34940224
Thanks. I'm considering buying one. Apparently they don't run +P, but the value is still hard to beat. I'm interested in the snub nose. It seems like a decent detective special for range fun.

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>>34919328

Thirded, my RIA GI has over 1500+ rounds without a jam and that's mostly steel and aluminium cased ammo. Best gun purchase I've ever made, and I just bought an M1

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>>34925043

>>34938173

S&W 1911s are apparently garbage unfortunately, at least that's what I've read

>>34919963
>gets 1911
>subcompact
kys

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>>34925043

>>34919963
>Got this Kimber Ultra Carry II for $750 and haven't had a single malfunction in the 400 rounds I put thru it so far
you fell for the meme so fucking hard. its going to shit out around 1k because all officers do.
all those 400 rounds did is give you the false impression of reliability.

>>34924917
Political reasons AND pricing.
The frame and slides aren't made in the US, but brazil, same with the barrels on alot of their models (GI).
Springfield USA merely does end assembly.
They are very heavily overpriced for what is essentially an imported 1911 that's only a step/ half-step above a RIA and the other flip 1911 builders. At the prices the higher end Springfields go for there is superior competition - just buy a SiG 1911 instead

>>34944952
They're not that bad.
Some people take beef with external extractors.

>>34945077
>>34945201
It's not gonna shit out for being a compact, it's gonna shit out for being a Kimber.
Detonics figured out compact 1911s decades ago (or the guy they bought the patent from did).

Not OP but I'm probably going to try to get a decent, but not to expensive 1911 sometime down the line.

RIA or Auto Ordinance is what I'm kind of thinking.

I've heard good thigns about RIAs but they look cheap as fuck. I dry fired one in a store and the trigger didn't feel that great for a 1911.


What sucks is that I've rented Springfields and absolutely loved them, especially the range officer model, but don't know if I want to suppor them.

I'm really just looking for a basic 1911 that is fun to shoot. Would rather it be a slightly loose fit instead of a gnat tight jam-o-matic or 3000 dollar gucci gun.

>>34919921
T..t..they only fucked us once gais. Its o..o..okkay to buy from them again

*Sniffle*

>>34945422
rias look cheap as fuck because they are cheap as fuck
priority is given to function above all else
aesthetically it will be all over the place with toolmarks and not straight lines but it will work. if a part is out of spec they make it "spec"
they make it work with the mentality of it functions great send it out.
what do you mean the safety looks like shit and doesnt blend to the frame?
it works right?
we are done.

>>34945487
That's actually pretty cool if you ask me. That is how 1911s were originally meant to be made. I might get one and do work on it later.

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I bought a used Remington R1S at a gun show for like $650
Did I overpay?

>>34945539
>I might get one and do work on it later.
oh god no dont do this
they are in spec enough to make a functioning gun but all the little tweaks needed to make it work result in very out of spec frame when compared to a blueprint.
the end result of a heavily modded ria is going to be shit that took twice as much work as starting with a different brand. its not worth the effort.
you endup dumping expensive parts in a fucked up frame.

now if you are tinkering with it for fun and your okay with the whole thing turning into scrap .yeah go ahead do work on it. just dont expect anything nice to come from it.

>>34945539
Well that's the nature of them.
It's cheap and utilitarian, and it's respectable that it works and holds up for what it is.

I think if you were to strip the finish of a GI styled one, then had it blued, and gave it some nicer wood grips, it would turn out a quite pleasant and pretty shooter on the cheap.
Polish it up some to give it a little bit of gloss.
Sure, it's like putting lipstick on a pig, but who doesn't like pork?

>>34945342

Ian did a fantastic video on the Detonics. Made me want to go out and buy one myself.

Is Kimber a Jew company?

>>34945742
I a person named Cohen, who is infamous for raping QC, got in charge of them.

Consider that before 2000, they actually had very good quality control and were competitive with Colt in pricing. A pre-2000 Kimber 1911 is actually The Real Shit, they got a good reputation for a reason, it's just that they just coast on that reputation now with little effort made on their part.

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>>34938618

So does nobody like Norinco 1911's anymore? Not mentioned even once in this thread.

>>34945609
Seems about right after looking at Gunbroker. There is one for 600 and one for 650 buy it now...the rest are 750-1000. So once you account for not having to deal with and paying for a ffl transfer you are right in there price wise.

>>34945839
norincos stopped being imported decades ago and are extremely uncommon

>>34945839
Norinco 1911s are basically RIA tier, but they're not being imported into the US anymore, along with other Norinco stuff.

They're popular elsewhere in the world, like Canada or Scandinavia, where they're thought of as pretty good pistols on a budget for a beginner.
I've heard this and that story about rebuilding them to passable raceguns, but I know little about such subjects and shouldn't comment much.

Is it possible to replace 1911's curved mainspring housing with a flat one?

>>34919227
Colt

>>34946377
Yes
http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=1911_MSH
>>34945864
I knew this, but they are still pretty easy to find at gun shows, Gunbroker, pawnshops...I bought one at a gun shop about 6 years ago for 400 bucks.
>>34946092
I don't know if I would go that far...the quality of the steel they are made from is supposedly exceptional...that is why they are commonly used as a base for custom guns. I have never had any issues with mine, any replacement parts I have put in fit perfectly without modification...and I know it is unscientific, but my norinco just feels like a more quality 1911 while in hand than a RIA.

My buddy offered to trade his first gen delta elite for my rossi 92 and $300. Im torn on the deal, i payed 400 for the rossi 6 years ago, so im all id be 700. The cheapest ive seen around is 850. Its a wicked nice gun but im not sure if id ve happier with it than my little rifle.