Britain rules the waves?

>>34877423
I imagine leaving on the deck wouldn't do much. Unless it's not an empty deck with fueled/armed aircraft

>>34877423
Just the news media trying to drum up sensationalism as usual. In a wartime scenario the carrier's going to be too far out at sea for a small civilian drone to get close. Maybe a sabotage situation while one is in servicing, but even then modern carrier decks are armoured.

>>34877423
2 kg of explosives won't sink the carrier, especially if its on the deck. Also, that guy is going to get in trouble for flying a drone over military ships.

>>34877423
It's not actually that uncommon for people to fly drones over aircraft carriers; I have a friend who foolishly flew maybe 300ft over an aircraft carrier with a ~1kg fixed wing drone. He never got caught (most aren't if they're not flying it LOS), but it is a bit of a serious vulnerability - you can't just have omnidirectional jammers on the ships either, because these drones often use bands close to (or part of) WiFi, mobile networks, GPS, etc.

>>34877767
>you can't just have omnidirectional jammers on the ships either, because these drones often use bands close to (or part of) WiFi, mobile networks, GPS, etc.
To clarify; that's for when they're in port, etc - obviously jammers can be running hot if they're out at sea or near hostile shores.

>>34877619
It's not really armor, rather critical parts are redundant and separated. Any single point treated to a two kilogram explosive might be disabled, but there's another able to take over for it and repairs could be made quickly.


A modern carrier isn't a man with steel plate skin, it's a man with four hearts, two brains and three spines.

>>34877423
A scenario where a weapons system would get close enough to detonate will never happen m8, we don't need to armour our ships anymore what are you a battleshipfag? :^)

>>34877800
nice reddit spacing summerfaggot

>>34877423
>“I could have carried two kilos of Semtex [plastic explosives] and left it on the deck,” the pilot told BBC Scotland.

Remind me of the whale that claimed she could disarm the police officer in front of her in a line.

The Royal Navy has wisely prepared for this eventuality by choosing not to operate any aircraft from its aircraft carrier

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>>34878198
> the merlin is not an aircraft

Just last week QE was pulling ASW heli carrier duty on excerise with GW

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>>34878198

Dunno what you're smoking desu.

>>34878282
>>34878294
No fixed-wing aircraft, then.

>>34877423
I'm more curious as to why there's apperently a 3000 ton discrepancy between Kuznetsov and Liaoning. Any ideas as to why this is the case?

>>34878316
Scaneagle is technically a fixed wing aircraft.

>>34878328
Mazut steam plant. Also maybe some deleted VLS but I'm guessing mostly steam plant.

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>>34878316

So in the same way that the Ford is decked out with fixed wing aircraft after returning from her builder trials lol?

>conventional propulsion
>ski jump

Congrats Britain, you've built the world's most expensive escort carrier. Maybe if you are lucky it will eventually be on par with France's janky carrier.

>>34878368
>Unable to count number of super carriers the US has on two hands.
>Able to count the number of super carriers the UK have on no hands.
Real makes you think.

>>34878452
Good job changing the argument you fucking cuck

Reminder the US has only 2 (TWO) of their 12 Carriers deployed at sea.

>>34877874
Nice reddit spelling underage faggot

>>34878463
>>>/leddit/

>>34878462
Reminder that the UK has 0 (ZERO) of their 0.5 Carriers deployed at sea.

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>>34878539
Ahem

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>>34877423
>what could two kilos of plastic explosives do

~600lbs of C4 used on the USS Cole

>>34878561
This thing is fucking adorable, but if you count this then you have to count all the little jeep things the marines run.

>>34878587
>this is what the retard believes

>>34878587
> Jeep can carry aircraft

>>34878600
>>34878601
If you wanna call the Ocean an aircraft carrier then you have to call the jeeps aircraft carriers as well.

Squid Pro Yo.

>>34878604
>If you wanna call the Ocean an aircraft carrier then you have to call the jeeps aircraft carriers as well.
what did he mean by this

>>34878604
Is english your second language?

Jeeps can not go out to sea

>>34878564
>2 kilos
>600 lbs

Yeah... I know you Americans aren't good at converting imperial to SI units but being THIS far off is a little worrying.

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>>34878613
>>34878617
I will use a picture since you two seem to be especially slow.

>>34878622
It's meant to show the contrast, Archimedes.

>>34878624
Nobody called them jeeps

A jeep is an escort carrier.

>>34878624

Not sure what point you're making to the other two posters by posting a ship that has the exact same role as HMS Ocean.

>>34878624
You're the one who's slow on the draw here, fella. Only a retard wouldn't call the QE an aircraft carrier.

>>34878630
Fine.

If you count the Ocean then you have to count all of these vessels as well.

>>34878636
No. Ocean conducted independent air operations of libya by deploying army apaches.

I can't seem to recall any LHA conducting air only operations.

>>34878642
They almost all perform air operations since they barely land marines to the shore. Shit, the USS Wasp used Harriers in Libya because it can actually carry fix winged aircraft, unlike the Ocean or the QE.

And the USS America doesn't even have a well deck so it only does air operations.

I think you might just be dumb.

>>34878622
Fuck you're stupid

>>34878653
It needs A FUCKING RAMP

>>34877423
It's not an operational warship. It's still doing trials. It's a glorified barge until it's finished.

>>34878632
>>34878633
>>34878630
Holy shit. You are all retarded. He's replying to this post

>>34878561
Which replied to this post
>>34878539
Which replied to this post
>>34878462

In this argument, the first individual reminded us that the US only has 2 of its 12 (large) carriers deployed to sea

To which another individual responded that the UK doesn't even have a single supercarrier

To which the individual posted a pic of a small carrier, capable of only carrying helicopters

To which an individual posted that if those are to be counted, then US carriers of similar size would have to be counted as well. Which would increase the number of US carriers previously mentioned to a number higher than 12.

Your welcome.

>>34878675
> Claim that QE is worth half a carrier (Not even half a supercarrier)
> Reply with HMS ocean since it is used as an aircraft carrier
> make outrageous claim that LPDs are "jeeps"
> Then outright lies to say they took part in air only operations when it was QRF and not a tasking
You are an individual.

>>34878692
>You are an individual.

Nuh uh

>>34878696
> individual
> individual
> individual
> individual
That individual should stay on reddit

>>34878696
>You are an individual.
>Nuh-uh
>>34878701
Don't go deleting posts to put a hyphen in it, No-Way

>>34878692
I called them a jeep because compared to our real carriers they are tiny and insignificant, and they still more than match the Ocean. And they can even carry fix winged aircraft which no current british carrier can. I thought this would be so obvious but of course you latched on to semantics just to protect your ego.

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>>34878711
> QE can't yet carry Fixed wing aircraft

>>34878725
>more semantics
oh fugggg

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>>34878734
> More shifting of goal post.

>>34878740
>more head in the sand posts

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ITT
People claiming the QE isn't an aircraft carrier by every conceivable excuse because:
> m-m-muh US NAVY is t-th-the only o-op-operator of Supercarriers.
> M-mu-muh superiority complex

Regardless of how you put it an aircraft carrier is any Type of military vessel dedicated to the carrying off aircraft, whether it be Fixed or rotary wing.

A super-carrier is any carrier above 65,000 Tonnes regardless of launch method, propulsion method or number or type of aircraft carried.

Get the fuck over it.

>>34878750
I mean, he is an Arab after all

>>34878769
kawaii af desu

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>>34878750
> Accuses of having head in sand
> Claims QE isn't a carrier.
Whoops

>>34878770
better than being a cuck

>>34878769
Not a burger desu, but the reason why I like baiting Brits in these threads is because of that chip on your shoulder. You're all too deadset on proving yourselves to others and it makes you easy targets.

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>>34878775
Replaced a smoller boat

>>34878776
>claims Ocean is a carrier
>claims that Wasps are not
woopsie daily doos

>cuck posts
pretty rich tbqhwyfam

>>34878776
m8, i think that picture says the opposite of what you think it says.

>>34878783
You're a cuck no-guns then, even brits can get basic firearms without much issue

>>34878791
Too bad they can't get toothbrushes for some reason.

>create thread about any non-USN carrier
>people screech on how said carrier is not a USN carrier

No shit, really? Redundancy is the word.

>>34877423
Any carrier that isn't nuclear powered is a meme, enjoy stopping and refueling

>>34878798
Too bad they've defeated your country at war at least once.

It's easy to tell you or you boyfriend are from africa

>>34878804
What do aircraft run on?
What do escorts run on?
What do people eat?

You do realise you can refuel without stopping these days?

>>34878803
Wait, so are you implying that the QE is little more than a laughable back up for the burger navy?

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>>34878725

who needs fixed wing anyway

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>>34878818

>>34878818
Not African, but try again Abu Maksoud

>>34878832
if you're from the continent then you're more black and arab than we.
if your from anywhere else you're irrelevant

>>34878849
Not there yet Ibn-Azzam Salim. Try once again, before another rotten tooth falls out

>>34878860
irrelevant then. thanks for clearing that up, enjoy living in poverty

>>34877423
>https://futurism.com/a-drone-unintentionally-landed-on-britains-largest-warship-and-no-one-noticed/

>He decided to give himself up to a team of armed police officers guarding the warship, but "no one seemed too concerned." He also left is phone number to the authorities, but nobody got in touch with him.

What a faggot

>>34877885
Was going to say exactly the same thing.

>>34878866
Literally wealthier per capita than all the ghoulish shitskins living in the UK.

And we dont get bombed in public like a bunch of 3rd worlders too. But I can sense your mounting butthurt so I'll let off and we'll all pretend that the Royal Navy and its Imam blessed toy boats are relevant.

>>34878873
Britcucks in a nutshell

>>34878561
Decommissioned in the spring.

>>34878892
>Literally wealthier per capita than all the ghoulish shitskins living in the UK.
> All literally arab countries

>>34878908
next spring.

>>34878825

My post makes no such claims.

>>34878915
Lol no. Look at the median income lists, median wealth lists and GDP per capita lists and youll see just how much of a steaming shithole the UK is.

At least you win in terms of dental cavities per capita

>>34878929
yeah all arab or arab infested and all irrelevant apart from the US

>>34878933
>All arab or arab infested
We weren't talking about your mum's bedroom though

>>34878946
At least my mother can invite them to the bedroom, in your shithole your mothers get raped in the streets and the rapists get the sympathy.

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>>34878954
KO

>currently ITT:
>two underage retards arguing about which country they live in has it worse
>>>/pol/

>>34878954
No, thats the UK described perfectly. I dont think anyone in my country has ever been beheaded by muslims in the street

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>>34878954

>>34878954
You just described the UK perfectly. Although the arabs also get the children.

>>34878966
>>34878974
No thats your country described perfectly.

>>34878954
.......m8, im a Brit and you quite literally described our own country tbeh.

>>34878966
>>34878974
Ibn mohhameds you just got KO'd Log off, please

>>34878984
Blatenly not british false flagger

>>34878979
>Child rape circles ran by Arabs
>Street beheadings
>Public bombings
>Not the UK

Why are rotten mouths so delusional?

>>34878992
Still irrelevant.

>>34878990
I am but this exchange is foolish anyway so I'm not getting involved

>>34879002
Still not a super carrier.

>>34879006
Northerners aren't british

>>34879007
Janes and the USN would like a word

>>34879007
>>34879015
>Janes and the USN would like a word
You heard it here USN has no supercarriers!

>>34879015
So would your dentist.

Too bad he doesn't exist

>>34879015
They have to pander to the small fry, that's politics.

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>>34879022
Lyl

>>34879022
Your mother wants a word, your half brother is going to be half arab from rape

>>34879042
Are you canadian?

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>>34879042

>>34879047
No, just a Brit angered by the presence of 56 local imams in me mum's bedroom every night

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>>34879055

>>34879047
>>34879055
No, i'm actually american!

I Love the brits because they're actually relevant

>>34879055
Im the foreigner whose been causing Britshits maximum pain ITT and i approve of your post

>>34879076
>>34879055
Do people have any idea of how ID's work?

>>34879084
Rumbled.

>>34879084
Do you have any idea of what toothpaste is?

>>34879096
You're replying to the wrong person you dumb prick

he's american

>>34879106
Nope, hes the retarded Britbong in here trying his hardest to save face after getting his """""""supercarrier"""""" laughed out of the discussion.

He is still yet to figure out where im from, this is truly the state of Bongistani education.

Some notes on this.

1: The QE carrier is technically not a military vessel. It is currently still owned by the builders, the Aircraft Carrier Alliance.
The armament will only be fitted once she is accepted by the Ministry of Defence and its fully commissioned into the Royal Navy. Currently, it is running sea trials on mechanical systems and the likes. As such, the aircraft carrier currently flies the Blue Ensign, as worn by non-commissioned ships on government business.
In other words, this is a civilian vessel right now.

2: This incident took place at Invergordon, a civilian deep-water port. It was not in a military base at that time. There are no restrictions on airspace around Invergordon (and the same drones are often flown in the area - the Cromarty firth has a lot of tourist cruise ships, and marine wildlife popular with drone filming.)

3: the drone was spotted by police boats around it. They even waved to the camera. (Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/12/drone-enthusiast-avoids-detection-lands-vehicle-3bn-hms-elizabeth/ )

4: it is not illegal to film: It was 100% legal for the pilot to take off from the other side of the firth, fly the 400m over water toward the carrier, be waved at by the police boats as he went, then fly up and down alongside it, taking footage. People in the UK have the freedom to do so.

Where it does become illegal is that he flew within 50m of the ship, which is a vessel under a different command without permission (that being the technical criteria under law for what constitutes restricted airspace.). That lasted for about 1 minute, during which time, the drone had a "high wind speed" warning and made an automatic touchdown on the deck.

When the drone pilot approached the port to report what had happened, the ship itself was apparently deserted: "A ghost ship" being his description. Its a pretty good bet that you could also land a drone on any other ship while un-crewed and docked at a civilian port, too.

>>34879117
> It isn't s supercarrier
> By every definition it is
> NO! NO! NO ITS NOT! ITS NOT TRUE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>34879137
somehow, I suspect this picture sums up the response to the people who imagine they are "causing Britshits maximum pain"

>>34877423
Air seach arrays weren't turned on?

>>34879164

Pretty much. This is no different or special than any other QE thread from the last 8 years.

>>34879177
>Air seach arrays weren't turned on?

Civilian vessel, moored at a civilian port, with the crew disembarked,

No, No search arrays, no radar, nothing on, except the light in the bathroom someone forgot to pull the cord on.

(ok, I made up the bit about the bathroom. but you get the point. it was unmanned. it was moored at a civilian port. its not been commissioned into the navy yet.)

>>34878709
Make me

>>34878824
>Not irradiating your crew to the point that they no longer need food to live
>Not exclusively using nuclear powered aircraft

Jesus fucking Christ it's like you slimey limeys WANT terrorism to win

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Oh,those Brits...

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>>34878725
That's a mock up F35

The real ones are on fire somewhere

>>34877619
>carriers can ONLY be bombed when at sea and at war with a major power

dude you are fucking retarded, like seriously fucking retarded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

>The Anglo asspyrotechnics in here
Navy threads are always good fun

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>>34877423
>>>“I could have carried two kilos of Semtex [plastic explosives] and left it on the deck,” the pilot told BBC Scotland.
The way British always act shocked and appalled when giving statements to the media sickens me.

>>34878561
That's not a carrier. That's a cuck barge.

>>34878892
Having money won't make you not a shitskin.

>>34880093
Fucking Christ. I've literally got bullets just littered around my house.

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>>34878769
>A super-carrier is any carrier above 65,000 Tonnes regardless of launch method, propulsion method or number or type of aircraft carried.

By your definition, you could put a maintenace shed, a small tent hangar and park 4 harriers on pic related, and it would become a supercarrier.

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>>34880093
>calm, factual quote
>shocked and appalled

>>34880356
A supercarrier is any carrier...

> Regardless of how you put it an aircraft carrier is any Type of MILITARY vessel dedicated to the carrying off aircraft, whether it be Fixed or rotary wing.

>>34877874
The fact that you even noticed that is suspect

>>34880356
Technically yeah that is a supercarrier. A shitty supercarrier, but a supercarrier nonetheless

>>34880356

>take supertanker
>change purpose
>is surprised when it is now supercarrier

Wow, it's almost like super is a term for a vessels size.

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>>34877423
>The Queen Elizabeth looks like a bullet casing

SHUT IT DOWN

>>34880093
>enough powder to fire itself
It's not even guns that kill any more, it's the bullets they fucking fire on their own, straight into little orphans.

>>34879682
>Implying he was saying anything like that

He said when an Aircraft carrier is operating in the Ocean it's too far from land for a small drone to fly to, has nothing to do with saying they can't be bombed dumbass

>>34879133
>>34879229
So a group of moderate refugees could have walked on board, powered up the engines, and sailed off with it?

>>34877767
Could just produce your own hunter killer drones that go shoot down rogue drones

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>>34880093

>>34877767
why not just swish cheese with CIWS?

>>34883482
People don't like it when you open up with a 20mm while in port

>>34880356
That'd be pretty cool tho. Imagine some oil company finding reserves in fucking Somalia or somesuch and converting a tanker into a private aircraft carrier to keep the dune coons out.

>>34883495
I'm talking about when its a threat, IE the people talking about ISIS using dronebombs.

When its in port theres plenty of better ways to sink it than a drone.

>>34878462
You are also forgetting our Amphibious Assault Ships (mini USMC carriers), of which we have ten-eleven?

>>34882135
>He said when an Aircraft carrier is operating in the Ocean

HOW ARE YOU THIS FUCKING RETARDED

HONESTLY, HOW

THE CARRIER IS NOT AT SEA 100% OF THE TIME

IT WAS NOT AT SEA THIS PARTICULAR TIME

IF THE BRITS DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR SHIT BOAT AND WANT IT TO GET BLOWN UP BY ANY RANDOM PAKI, THEN COOL

BUT AT LEAST FUCKING ADMIT THAT THAT'S YOUR GAMEPLAN, DON'T GIVE ME THIS "WWEEEELLLLLL IF IT HAD BEEN AT SEA EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE :)" CRAP YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT

YOUR BOAT IS GOING TO GET ALLAH AQBAR'D AND YOU DON'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE OF A NATION.

>>34886203
> Being this mad.

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>>34880356
hell yeah

>>34888699
How do they land?

>>34888727
vertical landing only

>>34878373
>Most expensive
A 70k British carrier is cheaper than a 14k American destroyer

Really makes you think

>>34886203
It's likes some people and pearl harbor.
>Well if the battlefleet had been at sea we would've been fine

YEAH BUT IT WASN'T THO, IT WASN'T AT SEA AND IT WAS REKT

>>34879682

>comparing a port in an unfriendly region to a civilian port in a peaceful country surrounded by allies.

Americans are so paranoid it's hilarious.