*crashing without survivors*

>>34839980
So Its just like every other helicopter.

That thing probaly has better survivability than a Blackhawk...

Probably maintenance related... My friend was an engineer on that project and said they had to keep redesigning parts because the military maintenance people were too dumb to put retaining pins back in...

>>34839998
Yes, but a Blackhawk had to be hit with rpg wielding nogs to go down.

This just needed marines.

>>34840009
>implying the rpg is more destructive than incompetent marines

>>34840009

If you hand give three marines an iron rebar each one of them will break it, the second will lose it and the third will hurt himself on it.

No wonder it crashes if the marines get their hands on it.

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>>34840055

>>34840008
Can confirm, my last job was designing test and maintenance equipment for the aerospace industry. the major airlines are pretty good about doing everything by the book, but I've heard some horror stories about what goes on at some of the military service depots. protip, don't get on anything that uses parts that went through Corpus Christi army depot

>>34840021
>implying anything is more destructive than bored military personnel

>>34840009
Blackhawks fall out of the sky due to maintenance issues and pilot error all the time too.

The Osprey is the safest VTOL aircraft in US inventory except for the F35B.

It's just that the Osprey carries more dudes so an Osprey crash is bigger news than a Blackhawk crash.

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>>34839980

>>34840008
>Create an over engineered, overly complex piece of shit that requires the constant attention of a techpriest of the adaptus mechanicus to maintain
>Wonder why people are having problems maintaining it

It doeasn't matter how good the spec sheet looks. If an aircraft is that hard to maintain, then it is poorly engineered. It's the same with any machine. If you have a car that can go from 0 to 60 in 1.5 seconds but it requires the blood of a firstborn child every five miles in order to maintain it, than it is a shitty car no matter how well it performs.

>>34841752
Don't forget that they will blame pilots for all the crashes

>>34841722
Look at shit like this, it's unstable as hell even with total fly by wire
What a disaster

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*crashing with 2 survivors

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>>34841769
Cross wind, no expert slow landing in cross wind?

>>34841798
A helicopter doesn't behave like that in a slight cross wind

You need to understand what it means too, any sort of problem and that Osprey will flip over killing everyone

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>>34841872
>no expert

Has the USAF variant ever crashed or has it just been the Marines' ones going down?

>>34841665

>Enclave has arrived

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>>34839980

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Name this helicopter

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Meant this one...

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>>34841798
Must be an ex SOAR pilot

>>34841927
Only Marine ones since they did the bulk of the testing. As far as I know, there's been no USAF Osprey incidents.

>>34841965
a poorly rendered apache?

>>34839980

>Osprey hate

What is this, 2001?

The V-22 has been the most reliable and safest aircraft in the entire USMC fleet since then.

Can anyone explain why these tiltrotor mutant monstrosities are even necessary?

Why not just build more powerful regular helicopters or some other form of VTOL transport aircraft.

This whole tilt 2 rotor layout seems wonky as hell

>>34839980
I survived though
At least the crash seats work

>>34842002
those are some really good blades...

>>34840055
No the third Marine gets it pregnant

>>34842226
Fuck you Jody

>>34840055
give a marine three steel orbs and lock him in a round room for an hour, when you come back he'll have broken one and lost another & there'll be a small fire in the corner.

>>34842216
Because you'll never get a traditional helicopter to achieve turboprop performance no matter how big an engine you cram in it.

>>34841708
Saw these flying over Philly during the papal visit, I love the presidential white top paint job.

>>34842248

Well that's my point.

Just use helicopters and planes separately based on their function.

an unstable mutant like this is just a liability and a resource drain

>>34842248
>What is a compound helicopter

>>34842110
Thats nonsense. Theres been several.

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>>34842220
Pass the barf bag..., NOW!

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>>34842075

>>34842271
Marines shouldn't even be flying stuff. They're marines, not Airines. They should only fight on botes on the ocean. Not rivers, lakes, ponds, swimming pools, jacuzzis, ramen pots or the land desu.

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>>34842362
WTF, thought the AH-56 Cheyenne was the one!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPXjF8nD_4

>>34844047
Quiet, you! They still have yet to figure out that amphibious means water and land, not water, land, and air.

>>34844081
WE BATTLE TECH NAO

>>34844047
wow I'll go tell the commandant right away!

kill yourself retard

>>34842197
>The V-22 has been the most reliable and safest aircraft in the entire USMC fleet since then.

Still it does its job in killing 'muhreens with no survivors perfectly.

>>34842216
Because people don't know what the fuck a Gyrocopter is.
>>34844081
>gee Billy, your mom let you have 3 props

>>34841665
>The Battle of Navarro 2170

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>>34845385

You moroooooon!

>>34841986
>Spawning way too many units in Arma

>>34845385
>>34845399
Explain to me why the osprey lasts hundreds of years? Or maybe the ones built in 2050 are overly well built because of all these crashes.

>>34845381
>autogyro
>VTOL

pick one

>>34841787
lmfao nice try americlap. Ka-52 has ejection seats, you know that thing no US helicopter has.

>>34840009
Crashhawks need nothing to fall from the sky. Anything that develops lift from large things going round and round very fast are a fucking deathtrap.

>>34845683
Why don't American helicopters have ejection seats ? Too low off the ground for them to function?

>>34845914
Exstrenious bull shit that hurts mission weight and probably will save no one in a seconds to decide situation were the flight crew is simply trying to fly

>>34845914
Because they use a bunch of old helicopters that have been upgraded.

This poster >>34845947
says its bull shit, but if the countries were reversed he'd say something about how russians don't care about their pilots and thats why US has it and Russia doesn't.

I'd rather have a decision to make instead of just being fucked.

>>34841665
Ospreys look sick IMO. A Jet version would be very cool.

>>34845683
>going down
>try to eject
>get shredded by rotors

RUSSIAN ENGINEERING
"it's a feature"

>>34846020
As someone named strelok, I feel like you should probably know how that shit works.

The blades fly off a good second before ejecting.

>>34842226
The fourth marine rapes it and the fifth marine loses it in a DUI incident.

The V22 has a better safety record per flight hours than just about any aircraft in service.

>>34846032
Which at 200 ft and 100knts is 2 tenths after you fucking lawn dart

>>34845959
You don't understand physics.

>>34841986
>when a wargame match is set on high income

>>34846126
The good second is an exaggeration. The blades are long gone before you eject.

This is a classic of example of the "if america doesn't use it than its horrible and is stupid" meme. Can't you just accept that Russia has something nobody else does? It's impossible for this board.

>>34846136
nice projection. Please explain.

>>34845793
I recently found out helicopters can literally crash themselves from just hovering in still air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_ring_state

All I know is, when I was in the service, everyone talked about the V-22 like it was a flying coffin and Avionics nightmare that would send young Marines to their graves. All of the salty dogs admitted, though, that they said the same thing about the Phrog (CH-46) when it was first introduced, and those things were god-damned exalted by the time they were retired. I dunno, we won't know until its time in service runs out...

t. Skid kid (UH-1N/AH-1W)

>>34846159
The issue isnt so much the speed of the explosive bolts and the trigger, it is the activation of the triggering mechanism. Pilots fixate and do not take steps to save themselves. Rotary wings are not encountering fatal issues at 35k feet. The pilot will go from flying an airplane to dieing 2 seconds before he realizes the transition. Bitching betty is there for a reason and the pilots who think they can walk away dont want any part of the flight parameters of rotary.

>>34841752
Kek

Thnx

>>34840074
hnnnnnnggg

>>34839980
I don't get it, why the fuck would you need this when chinook can do the same job.

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>>34847532
Its got a fuckhuge range compared to every other helicopter out there. Ine airbase can serve the entirety of Iraq, and landing shots can have standoff from combat areas/serve further inland.

>>34839980
*crashes with 23 survivors

Isn't the issue the two rotors causing some kind of vortex that messes with flight stability?

Why don't other twin rotor helicopters have this issue, like the Chinook?

>>34845683
That's why it's crashing with both occupants surviving you fucking doughnut.

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>>34839980

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A new player arrives.

Why can't we just make a really fat Harrier with a troop compartment in the middle? I know the middle of a Harrier is the huge intake turbine, just put that on top. It will make it less vulnerable to ground fire!

>>34849444
Literal death trap

>>34849444
Harrier is notoriously hard to fly on hover and you want to make it bigger with more powerful engine? Also the fuel consumption on hover/vtol is just astronomical without even added weight.

>>34842238
Jody is getting all three Marine wives pregnant because a barnyard only needs one rooster.

USAF maintenance is pretty good. I did that for 26 years. Other maintainers vary considerably.

>>34849705
As it turns out, a hen will take on the duties of a rooster if one is not present. So unless the barn yard specifically wants chicks there is no need for a rooster since hens will lay eggs regardless of whether or not they got their fuck on.

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*crashing with no contract

>>34850601
>at one point, we were this close to Orca dropship

>>34840075
What is so bad about the stuff that comes through there?

>>34846184
It's not from hovering. It's from having a vertical rate of descent where they settle into their own downwash. It can only happen if without any airspeed (in X/Y axis) you descend too fast and your blades lifting area decreases without the necessary power to arrest the rate of descent

>>34842271
>a liability and a resource drain
>far more capable aircraft than it's predecessor, CH-46
>brings completely new capabilities to navy and marines
>liability and a resource drain

>>34841965
CH-53 if it aint leakin it aint workin