Battle Rifle General /brg/

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Does a Hakim count?

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>>34837757
I'm certainly not gonna stop you

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>>34837769
I figured if the FAL counted then other cold war relics did too

>>34837627
>7.62
So, AKMs?
>inb4 wrong 7.62
You didn't say which 7.62

>>34837933
I knew someone was going to do this

>>34837869
Cold war best war

Help me choose a battle rifle please.
Im stuck between getting a scar 17 with handl lower, acr stock, or an ar10/piston ar in 7.62x51

>>34837627
the Soviet did mounted a scope on the SVT-40 and it did not work

tilted bolt was a mistake

>>34838420
way to fuck everything up anon

>>34838420
Scar 17 for sure between those two

>>34837757
>>34837869

That is a stupid fucking gun but it's all kinds of fun to shoot. Good inherent accuracy, low recoil, and unlike an AR-15 it doesn't clog up the receiver with gas and unburnt powder since all of that is blown directly off the bolt carrier and into the shooter's face.

>>34838439
whatd i fuck up?

>>34838467
see
>>34838439
>everything

>no boot
>bullshit lower that wont work with god like geissele trigger
>piston AR

>>34838498
>Wanting a flimsy stock
>SSA-E triggers work in Ar-10s
>Implying all piston ar's are bad.
>what is lwrc

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>>34838516
>>SSA-E triggers work in Ar-10s
no shit thats wasnt the issue you fucking retard, handl is
and why would anyone pay more than SCAR money for an AR pattern that cant fold its stock
>fucking ignoramus

>>34838537
>wanting a folding stock on an ar.
>ever
>Have to be stuck with using proprietary scar mags if I dont use the handl lower.

>>34838558
>falling for the handl lower meme

These are great mags and not even expensive.

Post SCAR

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>>34839365
Forgot pic

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>>34837627
7.62 hell yeah i got one.

>>34839365
>40 dollars for proprietary mags

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>>34839547
You can find them for $30 all day.

Post SCAR

>>34839547
You can spend $300 on a new lower and then buy SR-25 pattern mags... or spend that $400 on Scar mags.

>>34838558
Hurr im retarded, I'm gonna argue points you never made. Also fuckface mags are an integral part of weapons reliability have fun using another mag and being laughed to death when your scar chokes.

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Rhodesians never die

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Got this the other day, was having another gun fixed at the shop and they had this for sale. 775, came with 5 mags. [lolspoiler]Century Arms receiver[/lolspoiler]. How'd I do?

>>34839775
If it runs then you done good boy

>>34839775
Post pic of feed ramp.

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>>34839787
That's reassuring
>>34839879

>>34839879
Lewd

Other than receiver type and barrel cut, what's the difference in DSA SA58 vs Voyager series. Don't they use the exact same parts, but lazy out by not making lightening cuts on the receiver and bipod cut on the barrel?

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>>34837627
>You must be at least 7.62mm to enter
Ok

>>34839547
>He thinks this is expensive for magazines
Come to the world of AKs friend. Especially AK74s and SLR106s.
>He thinks proprietary mags are bad
Every gun but ARshit and its derivatives uses their own pattern magazine, this used to be the norm even 10 years ago. The only cheap SR25 mags you'll get anyways will be DPMS or MagPul anyways.

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>>34837627
Feels good to have 2 now.

>>34839775
>>34839898
Post pic of the other side of the receiver. That'll tell us who made the receiver at least.

Any thoughts or recommendations on a 20" AR10 and that BM-59 thst JRA is making? Also should I get one of the 5.56 SCARs that are on sale or bide my time and get one in 7.62?

>>34840537
He said Century in his first post.

>>34840585
I love the 20" look but would have rather gotten a SCAR

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>>34840627
Oh fug, I misread that. Here's a helpful picture for anyone that's got a Century build and isn't sure of the origin of the receiver.

>>34840699

My friend might be interested to know he's got an Imbel L1A1, then.

I've got a DSA but his rifle is just as good to be perfectly honest. And his mags don't hang up.

>>34840753
You're not alone in having issues with DSA receivers.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417510

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>>34840537

>>34840771

My SN starts with 33, the only problems I have with it are 100% magazine related, which I'm working on fixing.

Fun fact I can use my friend's inch pattern mags in my DSA rifle and they work perfectly.

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9.8 lbs unloaded. Sling not pictured.

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>>34840913
That's really fucking weird.

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>>34840927
10.6 lbs unloaded sling not pictured :^)

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Speaking of FALs, I need help identifying this one

It's a pseudo-para setup using an ACE adapter and folding stock, but it has the proper bolt carrier and spring. The barrel is cut to 18" but the sling swivel groove is right up against the front sight.

The receiver is a Gear Imbel. Could more pictures after this one.

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>>34841140
Receiver markings

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>>34841154
Barrel

I can't stop thinking about the FAL
Where can I read more about it? Where did you guys buy yours?

Which BR should i get as my first one? Ptr, FAL, AR-10?

>>34841251
Bought this one >>34841140 off of gunbroker.

DSA new production FAL have apparently been having problems lately. Lots of people on here have built their own from parts or hired someone to build for them.

I'd like to know about further reading as well

>>34840318
>>34840771
Well shit, sounds like I should build a FAL on my own if I want one that works. Is the word now just to avoid DSA built rifles all together at this point?

Siege of Jadotville movie has some excellent FAL porn in it.

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>>34841251
>>34841592
I built mine from an Imbel kit and receiver. I'm really glad I did that instead of buying DSA. Flandre and Mugi's videos are pretty great as building guides.

https://youtu.be/q1LOulYOu_A

https://youtu.be/jNckPmFKNRo

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>>34840927

>>34837757

Hakim is just a shitty repro of a decent gun.

>>34839665
>paying scar price for ar pattern without folding stock

come again, cupcake?

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hope you faggots like poverty

Fuck it, what about its stocks? If the mag aint back, I know its stocks are.

>>34841939
Who is the best to buy an upper from?

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>>34842690
Currently, I'd say Imbel or if you can find one of the older DS prefix DSA receivers made by LMT. Shame they don't make them like that any more.

>>34840345
Awwwwwwww yeah

>>34837627
So, do I buy Coonan or huehue for my FAL receiver.
Also what to avoid for barrel choices?

>>34842446
I don't recognize that revolver, what the heck is it? Also the flash hider is an aftermarket addition I'm guessing?

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My favorite!

>>34841939
they literally are the only ones on the tube w decent build vids

>>34842814
Go for the imbel. Coonan has had some issues with being out of spec lately and they try to blame the parts rather than the reciever.
Imbel barrels are also pretty nice and are relatively cheap. I'd post the barrel guide I have saved but I'm not at my computer now.

>>34842960
It's really a shame that more people don't have stuff out there like that. Luckily building an FAL is relatively simple unless your barrel is badly timed.

>>34843053
Know any sites that sell them? The only thing coming up on google is gunbroker (which only has lowers) and coonan which sucks apparently.

>>34843053
Sweet, I remember the guide from when I first dabbled. Now I'm just looking for the barrel vise and I'm set, thanks anon.

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>>34842815
It's a Dan Wesson 15-2, they're a pretty neat design. The FH is a modified AR15 birdcage, was a small run by EWK Arms in 2011. Been tempted to ask him to make more since it works so well at night but the cylinder gap flash kind of negates it.

Anyone ever used Wolf steelcase 7.62x51? I'm not worried about running it in my Vepr since lol AK, but I'm curious if any AR-10/M1A/FAL/PTR owners have tried it.

>>34837933
×51 or gtfo

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>>34843086
There was one up on gunbroker from Pars a few days ago. My advice would be to keep watching there or put up a WTB on falfiles. That's how I got mine. Got a few offers on the same day I put up the ad.

>>34843099
http://www.faltools.com

I just went over to Flandre's and we used his tools. He got them from there though. I'll pick up a set once I'm ready to build more.

>>34843166
That and Tula work great in my PTR.

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>Inb4 obselete
You wish

>>34839397
Beautiful

>>34842830
They look beautiful but I heard bad rep on them

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My old sig716. Sometimes I miss her

>>34843331
Don't know why its upside down

>>34843316
Gotta break em in and adjust the gas but after that they are top notch. I can rapid fire hundreds of rounds thru mine flawlessly. KelTec has really stuck to it and refined this gun thru the years.

>>34843357
How miserable is it to fire from prone?Seems like the mag would fuck everything up

>>34840771
>http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417510
God damn, this thread is super disheartening, i was so close to buying a fal and now I'm not so sure.

>>34843424
Build one. It's about the same or less than a DSA rifle and what you get out of it will be much nicer.

>>34837627
>Fuck it, what about its stocks? If the mag aint back, I know its stocks are.
Guys im not baiting, is the stock shit or what?

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Does anybody have the technical drawings for pic related? I have a friend with a shop and I feel it would be easier to just make the vices instead of spending $100+ dollars on them

>>34843456
What in the fuck are you trying to ask?

>>34843376
Actually supports the rear of the gun perfectly. It's very balanced and i just love how short and maneuverable it is even with an 18" barrel.

>>34843642
Is the stock still fucking flimsy like before. Does it still break as easy.

>>34843913
What stock are you asking about?

>>34843086

There are two on gunbroker right now from pars, $535

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/681176018

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/681194575

>>34843935
Scar stocks, dont know why I quoted the OP..

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>>34837627
>You must be at least 7.62mm to enter
Gopferdami :DDDD

>>34844105
I like the stock on my scar, no reason to change.

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Here's two of my /BRG/ the one that's missing is an older PTR91.

>LGS has Federal XM80CL for $5 a box
>Buy 50 boxes for $270 even OTD
>Never realized how fucking heavy 7.62 is

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My fal kit I'm gonna get a imbel receiver soon

>>34844481

Where did you get your kit? Gunbroker I take it?

>>34839898
take off the dustcover man, we're trying to see if you have the hesse monobrow feedramp. take it out shooting asap to see if it will feed rounds correctly.

>>34840699
that just for L1a1's? some receivers are stamped on the side HESSE which is nice, it's like having a warning sign on them.

>>34840627
fyi century didn't make any receivers, they were all sourced dumbass. that's why there's century fals with imbel receivers and century fals with argentine receivers and century fals with hesse receivers.

>>34843512
second this. If anyone has the specs I'm willing to make a 3D model

>>34844046
barrels are another thing though. I don't think the guy who said imbel barrels are cheap knew what he was talking about. most parts kits now come with a de-milled (chopped up) barrel. dsa makes the cheapest one surprise surprise about $100 though.

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Ran two NSNs for M1As at my local PX, hacked off $300 the prices from the catalogue they used. I'm entirely hoping that I can bring down an M1A Scout to $1.5 to $1.6k off the bat once I finally visit again and run more Scout NSNs. I honestly can't wait until my next paycheck comes in.

>>34844046
that's a good price for imbel receivers. In the falfiles group buy you pay about the same price. give or take $30.00

>>34844348
pics pls, I need inspiration to bump up my ammo hoard.

From what manufacturer should I buy my FAL? Also, para or standard stock?

>>34844537
Yeah

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>>34845352
Are you joking or just stupid? The vast majority of Imbel kits will come with a barrel. For example:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415049
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/667929353
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/680801496
http://whatacountry.com/Imbel-FAL-Parts-Kit.aspx

It's funny how you think DSA barrels are the cheapest at $100 when you can get various milsurp chrome-lined barrels here for about the same or even cheaper. Now you're getting a better barrel for a better price.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415048

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>>34845593
Also found that barrel guide I was talking about.

Thinking about getting a DSA Voyager later this year. I know DSA doesnt have the best rep but are they shitty guns? They seem to be the only FAL I can have my LGS order. Also does Colt no longer make the CM-901? Holy fuck I want one

>>34846459
Build one m8. Basically everything you'd need is in this thread.

>>34837757
Yes, it counts my friend.
hakims are fun as fuck to shoot, and the faggots here calling them shitty have never had the bolt carrier suction to the rails and slide silently because it's so nicely made.
>>34837869
Absolutely diamonds.
>>34838447
>stupid fucking gun
Wear sunglasses.
The ergos are pretty damn good, the cartridge and accuracy are awesome, and the safety design is top notch.
In fact, the only two problems are the charging method and the rock in stripper clips.
>>34846459
Build one, or find someone's kit build and be ready to check shit on it.
Headspacing, general fit, etc.
Like M14s, anything civilian usually needs to be taken with a hefty grain of salt and some suspicion.

>>34846736
Is the non-voyager DSA worth it compared to a build? It seems like after getting all the parts and tools you would be at about the same price-range as the DSA. Plus it doesn't risk me fucking it up somehow.

>>34838434
Zaitzev used a svt40 with a scope.

>>34846970
DSA FALs aren't terrible but they aren't good either. They have a much higher risk of problems than you should have in a $1k+ rifle. With a kit build you pay around the same price for a rifle built from much better, in-spec parts. The building itself really isn't that difficult but if you don't feel up to it, then buying a rifle built from a kit is a good alternative.

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>>34837627
Where do the a e s t h e t i c kids hang out?

>>34847303
>Where do the a e s t h e t i c kids hang out?
Not here apparently.

>>34845593
Hey retard you were talking about barrels period. Yes imbel kits are about the last to come with a intact barrel. How much is a good imbel barrel worth by itself though? If anon has a kit with a demilled barrel you think he's gonna buy a whole other kit just to get the fucking barrel? No retard. No ones arguing about the pic you posted regarding barrels but gunplumbers list you linked starts with a a paragraph long disclaimer of how or why these barrels are fucked up and they're all in the neighborhood of $100. Chrome lined who gives a fuck about chrome lined you fucks bitch enough about accuracy to know non chrome lined is more accurate and nowadays can you even find corrosive 7.62x51? Not like you have the money to shoot through the barrels rifling anyways. Virgin barrels are a nicety towards your builder and yourself if you want something better than an I go out and shoot this gun at notjing in particular at a distance fuck yeah rifle. You're a fucking idiot. Watch you "misunderstand" what im saying and argue a strawman.
>>34843053
This is where you mentioned imbel barrels are cheap btw, tell us how cheap without buying an entire parts kit pls

>>34847303
Not a surprise you don't roam with them.

>>34847560
>>34847646
Don't worry, I'm not judging you FAL peasants.

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>>34839547

Magpul is not OEM.

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>>34838558

You could get the Moses Mag. But they're constantly out of stock because of how popular they are.

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>>34837627
>mfw it's only 7.5mm

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>>34845434
This is in one of those Plano storage tubs.

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>>34844110
>>34848329
Let's trigger your autism

>>34848866
I mean, there are more suitable DMR-style rifles out there, but considering that they're cheap as chips around here, it makes a ton of sense.

What should i throw on my scar? I dont have a real preferance but ive heard they rape cheaper optics.
Also does anyone know of a place that has the short fn barrels in stock? I need it for them aesthetics.

>>34848939
>cheap
>costs 5000$

>>34847637
Kek these are battle rifles, not MOA guns. I can guarantee the chrome lining isn't going to make a noticeable impact on your accuracy on an FAL. If you actually read the page I linked, you'll see that he fixed the issues and the barrels are still useable. They may not be perfect but the barrels with light pitting will still be better than DSA. Check out gunplumber's barrel guide I posted in:
>>34845672 he even says that he's never noticed a difference in accuracy between DSA barrels and an Imbel. Check the first link I posted. He's selling Imbel barrel groups individually too, not just kits, which you can also find on gunbroker.

>>34847637
Not that guy but here: http://shop.ernstarmory.com/category.sc?categoryId=39

DSA isn't really that different in price than the other barrels. Source on $100 barrels? I haven't been able to find them.

>>34837627

Ok, my dad just bought a .308 S716 and it's in my name. It's pretty nice. He essentially bought it for me. We're going on a trip with him and my brothers, hunting for boar. We are going to a refuge where they have them. We'll be on foot, no blinds, no dogs, etc.

The thing is I do not know what type of scope I need for it. Do I need magnification? I tried calling the guy but I didn't get an answer. If I have a non-magnified scope on a .308 is that retarded?

I have a nice meprolight that I use on my Tavor. I am bringing the Tavor tho too..

What the hell should I get? I'm looking for something in that 500ish range but I can go higher.

I am not a hunter, I only go to ranges. I am also the one that has to shoot the thing, which is fine, I eat meat, might as well do the dirty work once in awhile.

>>34843331

I just got one of these. Is there anything accessory-wise I should be thinking of getting? It has a new trigger. I am rather new to guns in general. I will mostly be using it at an outdoor range.

>>34849028
In switzerland i think he means

>>34849414
Yeah, me too. The company that produce this STGW57 is situated in Switzerland

>>34848866
>>34848329
>>34844110

GTFO with your shitty intermediate cartridges

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>>34849757
>shitty
>intermediate

>>34842942
how is it holding zero?

>>34842942
Seems like a horrible optics setup. Now you can't open the dust cover.

Should i grab a ptr91 or build/buy an ar-10? What's the difference in accuracy? Also, is a 1-8x suitable for a BR?

There was a guy selling an Australian L1A1 on armslist in my state for a decent price. The nigger never emailed me back. Then he made a new listing and I hit him with a different email and he never got back to me. What the fuck is up?

>>34843512
>my friend has a shop
Even saying this means you and your friend have no idea how to fabricate.

Its literally two blocks of metal with holes drilled in it.

Here's a tip, measure your barrel and then decrease that number a little so when you drill the clamping channel it can actually grip your work piece. Then decide the centerpoints for the screw holes and drill one side of the block for clearance and drill the other side nominal so it can be tapped.

3d models wont do shit for you. Learn to make fucking blueprints you plebs

What should I expect to pay for a non-shit FAL if I'm not building it myself?

>>34851555
Around $1-1.5k depending on parts used.

>>34851608
What should he expect to pay for an FAL of dubious quality if he builds it himself and what does he need besides a greasy looking lower kit with no parts listed and an upper?

>>34851829
Well, using the links in this thread:
>>34841939
>>34843203
>>34844046
>>34845593
For the various parts and special tools you'd need, you could have a really solid Imbel build for about $1200 give or take some with shipping and possibly needing a different locking shoulder and some headspacing/pin gauges. You'd also need a vice and a torque wrench.

If you wanted to save a couple hundred, you could go with a Coonan receiver instead of Imbel: http://www.coonaninc.com/product-category/falreceivers/

The Coonans have dropped in QC a bit though so you run more risk of having issues.

>>34852033
How are the Century receivers?

>>34852134
Depends. The ones made in Brazil and Argentina are usually OK. Century's US made ones are generally considered to be bad. Like with all Century made/built products it's kind of a coin toss. Could get something perfectly fine, could get a hunk of trash. See: >>34840699 for the different markings.

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What ammo do you guys use?

Just came back from a gun show and got 250 rounds for $120.
It's 147gr and it's from a company called North Georgia reloading. Guy told me it has warranty and if I have a problem to give them a call and they'll refund the money.

Did I do good?

Building an AR for 308 here
Whats the best flash hider i can get?
not looking for muzzle brake/recoil reducer just to clarify

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>>34852515
>he paid 48cpr for reloads

>>34852515
>trusting reloads
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/10/hk91-destroyed-reloads/

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>>34852515
>buying reloads
>from a gunshow

I'll take "How I blew up my gun" for $200, Alex.

>>34852659
>>34852682

Are reloads really that bad? I did a quick search before purchasing and the company that does it has some pretty good reviews.

>>34852754
You never know until your gun explodes. Why pay that much for some random bubba workshop's reloads when you can get factory ammo for those prices?

>>34852754
Gunshow reloads (and reloads in general) are notoriously variable in quality and safety. They run the gamut from professional factory operation to random guy in a garage.

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>>34852515
>>34852558
>>34852659

I have a lot of experience with these guys, their ,45 acp loads were the best ammo ive ever used for my 1911, plated too for quite a bit less then factory loaded brass.

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>>34852659
>HK91 damaged but is repairable
>FAL is blown in half and sends user to the hospital

>>34839397
Not a full powered rifle cartridge, not a battle rifle.

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>>34852515
I'm shooting that Malaysian surplus at the moment

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What scope/sights do you guys use? I'm looking to get something to shoot between 200-300 yards. ive been looking into x4 magnification.

>>34853279

What scope is that on the right?

>>34853389
Vortex razor hd gen ii 1-6x

I really like it a lot. Getting the 1-8x trijicon for the scar.

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Just got a SAR 48 Para Congo couple days ago

What's the smallest caliber battle rifle? Apologies if this is a retarded question, the OP just got me thinking

>>34853799
7.62x51mm

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>>34853766
More pictures please. Looks cool.

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>>34853766
Yeah I'd like more pics too. ParaFALs are neat and I like the Izzy furniture.

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>>34853990
ay bb u wan sum para

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>>34854060
Gross, not that kind.

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>>34854075
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

>>34850957
Pls help

>>34854756
1-8x is fine. Personally I would go FAL or AR-10 before PTR. If you have SCAR money then you know what to do.

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>>34850957
The AR will be lighter and more accurate but to me, the PTR is more enjoyable to shoot. I'd personally get the PTR but what you want may differ. Like the other guy said 1-8x is fine.

Finally going to get me an FAL. I take it no one here likes DSA, but I don't know what to look for in kits.

>>34855386
Man, there is so much in this thread. Just check out all the links in: >>34852033

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>>34837627
What is a 1-4 or 1-6 optic for a .308?
Specifically G3 pattern. Bonus: under a grand and low mounting available.

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>>34840961
Why does everyone name their beagle or beagle/mix Bailey

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>>34855506
I'm not sure. I'll let you know when I meet someone with a beagle named that.

>>34853279
How's the SCAR liking the Malay surp?

Also did some of your boxes come with a pink ribbon too?

>>34838434
It worked. Its just that SVT was for infantry generally, and you can't really beat the Nugget.

>>34854099
You know you could sell both of those and actually afford to buy a SCAR instead of doing that to a FAL.

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>>34856362
But then I'd have a scar instead of an FAL and a Garand

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30 cal is love
30 cal is life

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>>34853389
>What scope/sights do you guys use? I'm looking to get something to shoot between 200-300 yards
I have identical 4x scopes on my aks now. I should update the pic.
I've used scopes with 4x, 6x, and 8x magnification, and prefer 4x the most. It's plenty of magnification and gives you a very wide field of view. You never really lose sight of your target while firing.
200-300 is still easily within iron sights territory IMO and my eyes aren't even that good. 200 yards isn't far, and 300 is where I start to find optics handy but I've taken it out to 400 with 762x39 and irons with pretty good results so long as the targets stand out from the background.
>>34855506
>bullet button turns the perfect pic into a garbage picture as usual
>>34847303
Sure isn't attractive to me, but nice to see something different in the thread either way.

>>34856389
Go away patch Fag

>>34856389
This guy gets it.

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>>34856066
Zero malfunctions and it groups decent enough. One of the best deals out there imo.

>>34848779
Fug

>>34849090
You're an idiot, you're repeating a lot of what I said. They're still almost $100 for surplus beat up compared to other surplus not good enough to be sold with a good rated parts kit. There's a reason they're over $150 cheaper than any other barrel. When gunplumber was talking about barrels he wasn't talking about this pitted fucked up lot. He didn't do testing on this lot, he looked at them said they're fucked up I can't sell these as part of a kit. Stop being stupid no matter what brand you fanboy what caliber you shoot or what and how you shoot every gun owner can agree that rust and pitting is bad for their guns they don't want it and they definitely don't want it on their barrel. It doesn't matter what brand something is how it was made to what spec if it's been let go to shit and I was wrong actually >>34849155 I must have mis remembered but dsa barrels aren't ~$100 if they were it was probably at the beginning of the year or around that far back. Everything is more expensive and will continue to get more expensive just like gunplumbers parts kits. Remember what they used to cost vs what they cost now? First guy used him as an authority which okay maybe he is but when he's selling shit at the going rate raising prices with the market then it stands to reason he's selling those barrels cheap for a reason ie: they're shit. He doesn't have a rep for being a nice guy or giving out deals and discounts, he's a businessman.

>>34850957
Check out PSA buy their pa10 upper and lower upper is 299 complete classic lower is 159. Thats right faggot, it's that cheap. Do you have any excuses now?

>>34852515
You got fucking scalped dude. Seller is probably jacking off to the memory of how savagely he fucked you.

>>34853766
Fucking hot.

>>34854099
Every time I see that fal setup I imagine how fucked your bonestructure is like do you look like squished c93 man are you a no neck hunchback? No chin mouthbreather style like what led to that god awful setup. The top rifle gave me hope that maybe you're just a normie with sometimes incredibad mallninja taste. B5 is the best stock dude. Stock you want dude. Best ever. Why buy anything else. Its what tier 1 guys use bro.

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>>34858922
I'm not saying rust/pitting is a good thing. I'm just saying that minor pitting in milsurp barrels is not unusual and can be just fine if you don't treat it like shit. I wouldn't buy the heavily pitted barrels, but the ones that only have minor pitting, time correctly, and have fine or fixed flats I would have no issue with using. I'm tempted to buy one of the 17.3" barrels for a future 50.63 build.

So in a way, you're right. Some of those barrels are likely trash, others, from his description, sound fine and would be perfectly adequate in builds. He even gives advice for builds using the fixed flat barrels. Just because they're not up to his standard to include in a $500 parts kit doesn't mean they're unusable. He may not be the nicest guy, but he takes pride in what he does.

You're definitely right though, prices are going up and that's damn unfortunate. Have you done any FAL builds? Not trolling, just wanted to see other people work here.

>>34843331
I recommend those rail covers just so the picatinny rail doesn't get super uncomfortable. I had a scope on it for a while but I ended up just switching back the irons. Sig sends them with hk style irons so they are pretty nice. Other than that keep it lightweight.

>>34849319
>>34859192
Meant for your post

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Anyone buy an olympic arms parts build FAL in the early 2000s? Googled reviews, but they're from a long time ago. Looking for up to date ones from Any one that bought one.

>>34838516
>Wanting a flimsy stock
Confirmed for never owning a Scar.

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>>34858977
This is some autistic rage at levels I haven't seen in a while
>implying it's a b5 when it is actually an lmt

>>34858930
>500 bones
That's not bad at all, what kinda accuracy can i expect out of a build like that?

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Fallout is Love
Fallout is Life

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>>34863725

>>34861013
God, you're a fucking manlet.

>>34837627
So I went to a lgs and they had a used ptr 91 for sale. I asked the associate how much it was and he said he would take $850 for it. He was saying that there was a couple of people who showed interest in it but no one has bought it yet and he is basically trying to get rid of it at this point. Is this a good deal or should I stay away from it?

>>34863834
What kind is it? You can get new PTR GIs for $750 but some of the fancier PTRs that could be a decent price for.

>>34863848
He didn't give me too much info on what model it was but I believe it was just a standard model

>>34863935
Here you go then if you want to save $100.

https://www.gunbuyer.com/catalog/product/view/id/61076/s/ptr-91-gi-308win-18-grn-stock-20rd-ptr-100-c/

>>34863945
Cool thanks friend!

>>34863834
>I asked the associate how much it was and he said he would take $850 for it. He was saying that there was a couple of people who showed interest in it but no one has bought it yet and he is basically trying to get rid of it at this point.

so open with an offer of 750.

With PSA's AR10's being so goddamn cheap, how do AR10's handle different ammo? The FAL has a gas regulator that you can tune for ammo like its older cousin, the FN49. How does the AR10 handle different ammo ie. 7.62 Real FNATO vs .308 hunting ammo? or adverse weather conditions?

>>34864169
theyre all over gassed so its fine

>>34864591
Is that a good thing or a bad thing for a .308?

>>34842446
>owns an HK
>poverty

fuck outta here

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Just letting you know that there's no reason to pay even $500 for a battle rifle anymore. Or get a C308 for just a tad more if you want those cheap HK mags.

Which is the best weapon to use for everything from CQB to DMR/sniping out of the following, and why? Reliability and durability are concerns, this should be SHTF-capable, take abuse, and never fail or jam.
>PTR-91
>SCAR with 20" barrel
>SR-25

>>34839397
What gun is that? It almost looks like an AK but it doesn't look like an AK. What the fuck

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>>34853766
i didn't know about this variant, i really like it

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>>34866379

>>34853799
.50BMG

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>>34866411
and that's all i could find on this one

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>>34866429
I'm in love with the FAL... sometimes I feel like I should have bought one before I bought the SCAR. The only problem is I never knew wether to build or buy. I want a top tier FAL :(

>>34866094
I wanted a scar but after the stuff I wanted to do to it would have been almost 6k and that's before glass. I'm getting me a ptr instead.

>>34866805
What stuff did you want to do to it? What do you see as advantages/disadvantages of SCAR vs PTR, aside from cost?

>>34866916
Scar being more modern, lots of stuff for it. Ptr though saves me a shit ton, I can use the savings for better glass and loads of mags and ammo. Weight could be a factor.

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>>34865021
BUT G3 IS PURE SEX

>>34837627
mmmmmm folding stock fal makes me wanna beat my meat

What is the average accuracy for a ptr and decent FAL? 2moa? Is this good enough for a DMR type weapon?

>>34866108
It's a PTR32.

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>>34837627
Has there ever been a true bullpup battle rifle

>>34865021
Unless of course you want something decent...

>>34843261
Those scout setups are pants on head

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>>34868614
Lel Kek makes one

>>34869437
It looks smexy, how's it shoot?

>>34869475
brap brap brap

>>34869475
I've never shot one. Just heard about it recently. I'm also curious how it shoots before I buy one.

>>34869788
>recently
Shit man, it has been out for years. Long enough for Keltec to actually make a few hundred of them

>>34869806
The majority of my time us not dedicated to firearms, I'm just a hobbyist.

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>>34837933
>no 6.5 Swedish allowed

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>>34855450
Hi-Lux, Trijicon, or Primary Arms.

>>34855506
>not Buddy Beagle

>>34863800
6'3" guy here. That only gives naysayers the middle finger when they claim that manlets and women can't handle .308s.

>>34864934
It's a PTR anon

>>34856389
Source?

>>34837627
Does anyone have experience with the Remington R 25 Rifle in .308 saw one for $ 1200.00 with a Burris scope / case / and strap

>>34868332
Anyone?

>>34871984
Yeah, 2-3 MOA is pretty standard.

>>34872003
That's good enough i suppose, i don't have the dosh to build a slick sub moa build

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/arg/ was no help as usual.... Just bought a Trijicon 1-8x for my SCAR 17... What geissele mount? I have a vortex 1-6 but they make a specific mount for that. I'm confused as fuck.

>>34873484
30mm vs 34mm tubes most likely

>>34873484
If only the reticle wasnt so dim

>>34873484
https://geissele.com/sr-25-ar-10-super-precision-scope-mount.html
34mm tubes, standard length

>>34873575
Thank you, I was unsure of the length

What is a good price for a pre 89 ban FAL made by FN in Belgium?

Found one on gb for about 3k and I've been wondering if this is a decent deal or not.

>>34858930
are they good though?

>>34873727
Thats a good deal

>>34860986
It does rattle.

>>34873484

I went with ADM for the low profile throw levers.

>>34859261
Whaaat? I didn't even know they were a thing. Post pics/links/info bro we can all look into it then.

>>34863324
Find out man, its only $500. Also it's an ar 10 if you find it inadequate you can change the fucking barrel with hand tools. Keep in mind ptr and fal rifles are around 3moa so i can't see the ar10 doing any worse.

>>34873727
Dude FN, made in belgium? That's about as top of the line as you can get. Springfield branded imbels go for 2k chew on that for a second. You found a hens tooth.

>>34877259
i just ended up buying it, it was stupid cheap so i jumped on it. havent gone shooting it yet though.

>>34839397
>x39
dis-fucking-qualified
>not wood furniture
dude what are you doing

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>>34875191
>rattling == flimsy
>wanting a fully plastic stock to replace polymer with an aluminum spine
Marketing teams must love you

>>34868538
Since when do PTRs come in 7.62x39?
>>34839397
That gun is hot tho

>>34877401
Since like 2009.

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Anyone know a place to get an original Para FAL stock, this one I picked up has a para hinge but the stock is from an SA Galil and I'm not a fan, DSA sells them for 169 but I would prefer an original one.

Pic not related because I don't have pics of it yet.

>>34852682
>22mag
>reloads

Really activates my almonds

>>34875191

SCAR stocks haven't rattled in 5 years since FN added that little spring clip.

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>>34877820
FAL Files and wait, or you could try and ask Brad at gunthings if he has one, he doesn't list all the stuff he has for sale and I know he has at least some parts for an original one

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>>34837627
Any one else excited for the new army rifle?

>>34879464
They'll find some new and interesting way to fuck it up entirely. Or it'll have a 7k pricetag.

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>>34880000
CONFIRMED

>>34877382
I'm not the guy replacing the stock, I was just stating a fact. Bitchin damage control mode though bro.
>>34879381
I bought it in 2006, I probably haven't shot it in five years though.

>>34868699
Umm ... no

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>>34863834
i hate this technique, but it's a weasel's market, so i always remember "if you offer isn't insulting, it isn't low enough." tell him you've got around 600 in cash on you. fucking lay it out. let him see those bills. especially if it's a bunch of 20s and 50s. he doesn't need that ptr.

>>34880533
This

>>34879412
Nice looking RIA anon. What size is that?

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>>34881212
Commander, I already flipped it tho

>>34880290

2006?

SCAR 16s only went on sale to civs in late 2009
SCAR 17s in 2010

Before that it was military only and still in testing.

Could you get me a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range on your next time travel?

>>34881623

Question. I'm used to the 1911 safety.

Is it easy to accidentally decock while sweeping the safety off?

>>34882871
There's a decent amount of resistance so I'd say no unless you're sweeping all the way down with a lot of force

>>34883147

Thanks.

>>34854099
These look like NEET'S guns , you little shithead

>>34858977
These are NEET'S guns he is a angry manlet Psycho

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>>34883765
>>34883776
Wat

>>34883818
Angry manlet from the patch thread

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>>34883832
They're not NEET's

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>>34837627

If I were to start buying FAL parts, Which should I start with? I don't have a preference mainly due to ignorance. I understand FALs aren't the most accurate rifle but I don't mind. I just want a reliable and durable rifle. I plan to buy parts here and there so any guides on what to stay away from and what's good? I don't mind spending a little extra here and there for shit that won't warp or explode in my face

>>34883953
See:
>>34852033

>>34883994

So imbel is good to go? look for imbel?

>>34884009
Yeah, Imbel is good.

>>34884040

thanks babe

>>34845209
>hesse monobrow feedramp
Never heard of it