Why aren't jackboots commonplace in uniforms anymore?

Weren't jackboots originally made for riding horses?

>>34824216
leather

>>34824240
Yeah? Leather is awesome.

>>34824216
Because they really aren't that practical. They look cool as fuck, but they have to fit pretty much spot on, or they'll be hell to wear.

t. owns jackboots

>>34824216
Because the baddies in the last major war wore jackboots.

>>34824275
The Soviets kept theirs all the way through the 90s or later. Jackboots were always kind of a German/Prussian/Russian thing, in that places west of Germany mainly kept to laced shoes.

>>34824216
Because modern military boots are made better, have better support, and are adjustable to many foot shapes or sizes.

That's not to say you couldn't make a jackboot do all those things, but why reinvent the wheel at this point?

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>>34824216
head over to the east coast m8, they still wear em. I know motorcycle cops wear em.

>>34824216
Btw, I own a pair of those from the OP pic, and if you want to do any kind of reenacting, either you have to do a fancy officer impression or artificially age them or they'll look all wrong with an infantryman uniform.

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>>34824216

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>>34824301
Ah the New Jersey state police, or as I like to call them, the guinea gestapo.

>>34824356
That doesn't relly look like a Nazi.

>>34824356
Less nazi, more gay traffic cop.

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BRING
THEM
BACK

>>34824257
It's expensive, high maintenance and is actually shit in many environments like the desert.

Hell, if it's not lined and not cobbled a certain way, they are shit for cold weather...just ask the Germans on the eastern front.

>>34824295
>...This anon thinks soviets weren't baddies as well...

>>34824927
Oh they were, but we didn't think so at the time. Jackboots were and still generally are seen as a symbol of German militarism, which isn't fair, but there you have it.

>>34824828
They aren't comfortable, anon. You also need to tuck your pants in them for them to be tight around the leg enough, and as a civilian, you'd look like a huge sperg

>>34824216
they are if you're a motorcycle cop.

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>>34825083
BRING
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>>34825094
Literally all those guys are wearing very tall lace up boots, not pull ons

>>34825094

Is that real life? They look like cartoon characters.

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I think-I think we all think-military uniforms could be done a little better

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>>34825386
I love British/commonwealth first and Second World War uniforms. First for the jackets and boots, 2nd for the rigs and shirts.

That and the hot weather shorts.

>>34824423
Pretty sure Delaware state police wear them too

>>34825094
They look like the guards from Dishonered

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>>34824216
idk, why did it take 6 gorilian years to using the superior german style helmets that gave better neck protection?

>>34824258

This. Jackboots were still issued when I served and they tend to be uncomfortable and hard to feet. Good modern laced military boots are much better.

>>34826922
What country did you serve in?

>>34825825
The french thought about sexy builders
The british thought about that shepherds pie
The us fought about tomato sauce
The germans fought about their dicks

>>34826945
Finland. Tradional black jackboots were still issued here in early 1990's, although we also had ankle boots (for holiday/dress uniform) and variety of other boots & shoes issued for each soldier.

Starting to use jackboots usually took some time for feet getting accustomed for them - until that happened getting blisters were not uncommon.

>>34827310
That's really interesting. I wonder why you guys stuck with them for so long.

>>34827332

Traditions plus the old jackboot design is extremely durable. The leather is thick enough that it does not break down easily and soles are a layered design sown in, so they can be replaced if needed.

In fact durability was apparently the main reason why the Prussians originally chose jackboots as standard issue footwear for their army.

>>34827499
>durability was apparently the main reason why the Prussians originally chose jackboots as standard issue footwear for their army.
That always amazes me to think that until the Germans adopted the M1939 Jackboots, they used the fucking MODEL 1866 BOOTS. 80 year old boots, which is insane.

>>34827499
(added) In case you didn't know: Jackboots got popular in European armies when they started copying the jackboot design from the Prussians.

They look pretty gay to me unless you're on a horse or something, just seems impractical and feminine.

>>34827520
"If it works, don't fix it."

>>34824491
Or traffic cop on his way to a kinky sex party that gets pulled over by his m8s.

>>34827499
I heard that they work best with foot wraps but thisbis also from my grandfather who I think is made of the same leather as jackboots

Jackboots for cavalry and for riding officers totally made sense, consider the mud and water they ride in. Tall boots for infantry made sense provided they did a lot of marching in dusty, wet and muddy terrain. Uniform items were however not always designed for sense. Fashion was often an overriding factor, and so was decidedly cost, and also availability of leather. A king could and would treat his favorite regiment like dressup dolls. Once tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of soldiers were to be uniformed cost became an acute issue and leggings and foot bindings were issued wherever possible. The only reason the Russians were issued tall boots for ages is the historical state of their roads and climate.

>>34827977

He is mostly correct - foot wraps/rags made from flannel were the primary thing to use with jackboots. But for wintertime Finnish Army issued also wool socks for extra warmth. I have never personally used foot wraps/rags (we used socks in them), but I have heard from multiple sources that when wrapped correctly the foot wraps were supposedly comfier than socks and faster to dry.

At least in pre-war era Finnish Army apparently also issued its conscripts two pairs of boots, from which another pair was one size larger and intended for winter use.

>>34825782
Was literally just thinking that

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>>34824216
Too totalitary

>>34827499
Do rubber boots fill the same design niche? Apart from the difference in materials, how much of a difference is there in fit and use. Militarily, rubber boots are/were the main footwear of FARC guerillas, and they are seen in use in Africa by militants there.

>>34824216
They look cool but ordinary boots are better

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>>34824216
Reputation

The term "jackbooted thug" didn't come out of nowhere

>>34824216
If you tried wearing a leather jacket in winter you would know

>>34829011
FARC made rubber boots standard because they fought and lived in the jungle and the boots were a cheap and reliable way to avoid the usual waterlogging and trenchfoot that lace up combat boots suffer from in jungle combat.
On the other hand, African militias typically just grab whatever footwear footwear is lying around, be it rubber boots, sandles or sneakers. Rubber boots are very hot and difficult to run in, so I strongly doubt any of them would be wearing them if they could get real boots.

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In Italy jackboots are still the norm.

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>>34824301
Jesus christ, look at these LARPing faggot welfare queens.

>>34829256
Those Italian cops look straight off a porn set.

>>34829011

Rubber boots are reserved for specific use in Finnish military. They are intended for combat boots in conditions that demand waterproof boots. Finnish military actually have two versions of rubber boots:
- Normal rubber boots for summer use.
- Winter rubber boots (with removable felt liners).

This might seem weird until one notices that Finland has about gazillion swamps, creeks, rivers and lakes - then it start making sense.

The rubber boots that Finnish Defence Forces issues are versions specially developed for that purpose with Suomen Kumitehdas and Nokian Jalkineet/Footware. I would say that the fit tends to be rather loose, but the designs are much more hardy than with rubber boot designs intended for civilian market and they contain some specific features (such as attachment points for skis in winter rubber boots).

The military rubber boots that FDF issues are: - Summer boots: "Rokka" made by Suomen kumitehdas.
https://varuste.net/en/Suomen+Kumitehdas+Rokka?_tu=3809

- Winter boots: "Naali" by Nokian Footware.
https://www.nokianfootwear.com/product/naali/

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