Is Archery a meme /k/? I have a backyard wherein I can practice

>>34818462
>is [insert thing here] a meme?
Stop.

Anyhow, sure go for it. Cheap and great for hunting. For self defense? Maybe if the attacker is 50 feet away and doesn't have a gun.

>>34818462
Useless for self defense. Fun hobby that gets you outside and bowhunting though, would reccomend.

Im a compound shooter with a diamond infinite edge pro.

Dont listen to the meatheads who havent got a clue, start yourself on a lower draw weight to git gud then move up to heavier stuff.

>>34818462
Archery requires the skill of marksmanship, in combination with strength and conditioning that shooting doesn't tend to require. You could take a any infantryman in good shape, and he'll still need a year of practice to be considered competent in a bow in the same way he's competent with a rifle (that only took like 2 weeks) All that work goes into giving you a weapon that's just not as effective as a firearm.

>>34818462
>is archery a m...
kill yourself
>would it be beneficial
it is a very fun hobby and once you git gud then it adds an extra challenge to hunting
>can I be the green arrow and clear my house with it
see no1

>>34818494
40-45lb is a good starting weight. a 50-60lb bow dropped down the max 4 turns like a bear marshal or wild usually pulls about 40. A good 5/10/20-70lb compound from Diamond or PSE is the best starting point.

>>34818483
>Anyhow, sure go for it.
I might.

>Cheap
How cheap? Like I can get a bow for like $10 and reusable arrows for $1/arrow?

>and great for hunting.
Hunting is illegal where I live.

>For self defense? Maybe if the attacker is 50 feet away and doesn't have a gun
Ok.

>>34818532
>Hunting is illegal where I live.
Where the fuck do you live?

>>34818532
>is a serf in some shithole
start your thread with I'm from X communist shithole should I_________ so we can just make fun of you and give appropriate advice instead of operating off the assumption you're a human with rights.

>>34818545
Planet Gay.

>>34818553
Damn that's a shame. Planet Gay has some fierce predators.

>>34818532
>>Cheap
>How cheap? Like I can get a bow for like $10 and reusable arrows for $1/arrow?

Lol no
Bows are just as expensive as guns

But beginner trad bows like the samick sage are under $100

Beginner Compounds are gonna be more in the $300 range

You cant just buy 1 arrow, you buy em in packs. An theyll vary from 20 bucks to $100
Youll wanna learn how to attach your own tips.

>>34818592
Should I get beginner trad bows or Beginner Compounds?

How do I attach my own tips? Is it cheaper?

>>34818635
Look nigga, the only onw who can decide that is you, you want something more traditional, like a recurve or longbow or do you want a high tech fancy compound.

>How do I attach my own tips? Is it cheaper?
Just google it broksi

as for cheaper, its pretty much every arrow that isnt chinese junk comes without points.

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I'd personally recommend that you start with a decent takedown recurve. Can be gotten for not stupid expensive, and you can swap parts/upgrade later down the line. Try Lancaster Archery, it's a good place to start so you can get an idea of how much this shit costs.

>Can't hunt with sticks and string
Where the fuck do you live, OP???

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>>34818532
>Hunting is illegal where I live.
Time to moooooove.

>>34818741
Also to answer OP's OP:
>>34818462

>Is Archery a--
Archery is the oldest and best meme, faggot.

>Would it be beneficial?
It's a good, sorta therapeutic form of exercise that requires a lot of focus, so yeah it's beneficial I guess.

>Self Defense?
No, a baseball bat is probably better for self defense. Bows are fun, but they ain't meant to be fast, concealable or easy to aim, which is kinda important when you're trying to not get killed.

>>34818462
it's a fun hobby and fun way to hunt
for self defense it's worthless. get a gun.

>>34818741
How much is that?

Is a used one for $10 okay?

>>34819114
~$200

Try reading my fucking post next time. Go to http://www.lancasterarchery.com and look at what those bows go for.

>>34818462
For self-defense it's useless unless you have the time to grab yor bow and arrows along with the right opportunity and aim to shoot someone in the neck.

Look into PVC bows. Backyard Bowyer is a bit painful to watch but he makes decent bows (including take down recurves).

You probably can get the bowstring and PVC piping. You can cobble the entire thing together for <20 bucks. See if you like it before getting more complex/expensive shit.

>>34819114
>Is a used one for $10 okay?
Fucking hell, just go back to your tendies and japanimations

>>34819114
https://nerf.hasbro.com/en-us/product/nerf-n-strike-elite-mega-lightning-bow:684A12BD-5056-9047-F59D-1E6C176CAF1E

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>>34818741

How do I into archery the cheapest but effective way possible?

>>34818575
Mostly bears if I'm not mistaken.

>>34819881
Samick Sage is probably the cheapest good option. With a a stringer, pack of arrows, armguard, tab or glove, and a quiver you could probably get it at around $200.

If it's your first bow and you're coming here to ask instead of doing 50 hours of research on your own first, you really should go to an outfitter though.

>>34820080
Can you give me a quick rundown on info I'd need for first bow

>>34819881
Crossbow.

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archery is ridiculously expensive
rich mans sport

>>34820843
Well, you can go budget, but it's not much cheaper than guns.

>>34820428
Honestly? There's way too much technical detail for 4chan and it's not that hard to research for yourself.

>>34818462
This is the most budget I can find
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/samick-sage-takedown-recurve-bow.html
wait did you seriously ask about a bow for self defense

>>34821080
You can get samick sages even cheaper on ebay but I have no experience

>>34821253
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samick-Sage-Recurve-Bow-/282598451102?epid=83477825&hash=item41cc2e279e:g:XZsAAOSwH1NZhIer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samick-Sage-45-Recurve-62-Long-Bow-Right-Handed-Recurve-Bow-45lb/292207602698?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45701%26meid%3D8660110c6fcf4b0fadb01fd2b31a8d11%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D282598451102&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

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>>34818462
Archery is a fucking meme dont do it

>>34818462
>>34818462
get a climbers 8, some toothbrush heads, a black exercise band & some arrrows: slingbow

>>34821996
Fuck you

>>34818462
>for self defense

There is almost literally no scenario where it could be used for "Self defense".

You would be required to have your bow in your hand and a quiver on your hip/back.
Even if it were on the back seat of your car it would be useless in a SD situation because no-one attacking you is going to wait for you to set up.

But bow hunting is a thing, and if you practice enough it can be rewarding, but you will need a bow with a decent draw weight.

Don't buy a compound bow to start, or you'll just derail it a half dozen times early on and hate yourself for it when you realize how shit you are at life.

Buy a recurve with a draw weight of at least 40lbs, would recommend 50lb-60lb but you might not actually be able to draw it without practice.

Actual practice bows can be quite cheap,
If you aren't even sure if you like archery, go to a range/center and give it a go first.
Otherwise i'd recommend you buy a cheap practice bow of 25-35lbs draw (don't forget to buy arrows) to practice with first.

depending how you go with that personally I think you should get experience with a high draw weight recurve before investing in a compound.

Just know that if you don't know what you are doing and mistreat it at all, you will derail a compound bow quite easily, then have to go back to the shop to get it fixed unless you have the tools yourself.

Remember archery is a competition sport, you will actually need to practice a substantial amount before you real;ly know what you are doing, but there are heaps of sick videos on youtube to teach you.

>>34824098
Haha fuck you

>tfw too poor to into archery

>>34818592
>bows are just as expensive as guns
No? Have you ever been to amazon?

You can get a 150lb crossbow for $80

>>34824846
fucking get out loser.

>>34824944
>Trusting an $80 crossbow with that draw weight

>>34824944
And you can buy a hi point pistol for $70.

Your point?

>>34824953
Fuck you !

>>34825366
Don't shit on highpoint

>>34818532
>How cheap? Like I can get a bow for like $10 and reusable arrows for $1/arrow?

If you make it yourself like this guy, sure. Most bows go for $100-$500 range.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XofhpYmaEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=212vwGOFzSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLoukoBs8TE

>>34820843
It costs nothing but time to make your own bow and arrows. You have to be willing to learn though, which is something most people nowadays are not going to be interested in doing.

>>34824944
Archery is nowhere near as expensive as guns

>>34824098
dont start at 40 lbs you will fuck your rotator cuff eventually. start at 25-30 and work up as your tendons strengthen. good form is key as well

>>34827912
rrrrright

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/bowtech-carbon-icon-dlx-compound-bow-package.html

And they go higher too

>>34827639
Im not, the point is yes, you can buy a beginner bow or shitty chink xbow for sub $100, just like you can buy a shitty saturday night special or shitty break barrrel .22 for sub $100 too.

On the flip side, many bows and crossbows can reah well into the $1k range, just like firearms.

>>34818462
Archery is fun though with these compound biws with triggers, you might as well just get a crossbow or a gun.

I prefer tge historical low tech bows like traditional english warbows or recurve horse bows.

If your bow has more to it than a staff and string, then you dun goofed.

>>34828013
You're an idiot. Flat out.

>>34828039
once you add fucking wheels to the thing it is no longer a bow IMO

>>34828048
>gets proven wrong
>y-your an idiot

>>34828065
what is it then?

>>34828069
Dude.
Really?

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>>34828098
What the fuck is that suppose to mean faggot?

You wrote
>>34827912
>Archery is nowhere near as expensive as guns

I showed you a bow that is priced well into the same price range as firearms as proof youre incorrect. Your response is then a typical name calling insult. Because you got proven wrong?

>>34828142
Alright man jesus christ

>>34828071
more akin to a crossbow

>>34828142
you dumb nigger, just like you don't need to buy a 1000 dollar gun nobody is forcing anyone to buy 1000 dollar bows.

>>34828181
No shit, you braindead retard. I was showing how the expenses and price point of archery and shooting is similar, once again, in refutation of

>Archery is nowhere near as expensive as guns

Dumbasses are out in force tonight, I see

>>34828225
Autism

>>34818462
>self defense with a bow.
yes this is a meme. are you nuts?

>>34828225
I build my own bows and arrows for only the price of a couple cheap hand tools. You cannot do that with a gun. $0 beats any amount of money spent on a gun and ammunition. Fuck off

>>34828332
I could build a handgonne out of scavenged wood and metal, powder from natural components, and projectiles from river stones. Check mate, archery fag.

>>34828345
Please do it and make a video, I would love to watch that. (no really, please do it)

>>34819957
They may not be as intimidating but I would also fear the otters anon.

>>34828332
>i built a shitty bow and some shitty arrows with shitty handtools

>>34828412
They are quite good thanks. I'm excited that my yew stave has nearly dried enough to begin working on, that should be a fun project.

>>34828430
My 1500 dollar compound bow is better then your stick.

>>34828225
Anyone who shoots regularly is going to spend a shitload more on ammunition than they will on the firearms themselves. Good arrows last a very long time if you look after them. So archery is definitely cheaper in the long run. Cheap enough that many archery clubs provide full sets of equipment for beginners to use at no extra cost.

>>34821080
>http://www.lancasterarchery.com/samick-sage-takedown-recurve-bow.html
>$149.98

Is there something like $20 used?

>>34829647
I'd avoid it. If they're willing to part with a bow for that little there's probably something wrong with it.

This might be more your speed: http://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/archery/youth-small-frame-archery/youth-small-frame-recurve-bows-longbows|/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/472681980/i/468235080/bear-archery-fred-bear-goblin-bow-set/744996.uts

>>34829647
Nigga get a job or move to a non shit countru

>>34829692
>http://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/archery/youth-small-frame-archery/youth-small-frame-recurve-bows-longbows|/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/472681980/i/468235080/bear-archery-fred-bear-goblin-bow-set/744996.uts
>young archer
>Draw weight: 18 lbs.

Might as well throw that arrow brah

>>34818462
For self defense? Worse than terrible
For hunting and target shooting? Wonderful
Its a pretty great feeling when you stack your first arrow.
Its fun and would recommend

What about crossbows?

Are they good for self-defense?

There's this guy whom I had a problem with and I need to do some revenge.

>>34830642
>Revenge
>Self-defense

>>34830881
Kiss

>>34818553
United Kingdom?

>>34831582
I am assuming you are phoneposting and meant "kys", and to that I say "you first."

>>34831735
I meant kiss

>>34831704
Murica

>>34829647
You can get practice youth bows for 20-30 bucks and have no issues, same shit only cheap and for kids, then youll know whether or not you want to invest 80+ into a bow. Once you get past holding the bow without the string slapping your arm, itll be pretty easy to pick up. You'll more than likely only need a few dozen hours to before youll be reliably accurate

Try it op.

It's fun and not a bad skill to have.

For your sake I hope you have better self defense options but if not it's better than nothing.

>>34829647
Anon, if you're trying to enter a hobby with $20 in your budget either take up solitaire or save your money for things that are actually important.

Is 40lb ok for a beginner? I ask because I can get a bow for cheap but all these are in the 40-45 range

>>34829647
Kids bows maybe. Try flea markets garage sales and stuff. Maybe Craigslist type sites.

Its probably going to cost more than 20 to start though.

>>34832211
Where is hunting illegal in the US?

Major urban areas maybe. In that case become a cop.
Everyday is an African safari for the cops!

You can make a surprisingly decent bow out of like 30$ worth of pvc and tools
Its probably not worth making your own arrows though, but they can be fairly cheap and reusable as long as you don't abuse them.

>>34828872
Color me shocked that a modern compound made with high quality materials and precision engineering can throw a pointy stick better than a traditional wooden bow. Did anyone ever argue otherwise? Doesn't mean that it kills dear any better than an old longbow, it just helps the shooter compensate for lack of skill by being easier to use without much practice. A clean pass through the vitals of an animal has the same effect regardless of the speed of the arrow.

>>34832991
My very first bow was made of pvc, it was around 30lbs and shot well. I immediately started on a wooden one though, pvc is pretty slow.

I don't like making arrows so much, they are a bit of a pain in the ass. Bamboo can be relatively easy compared to wood if you have some growing nearby, certain types are better but regular old Tonkin cane can work with some more straightening and careful selection of shoots.

Here is a good video series on making a basic bow for $25 dollars. It is made from wood bought at the hardware store which will not be as nice as a proper stave bow but can be easier for those just starting out to get the materials. Make sure to watch his video on selecting a board if anyone decides to do this, there are certain things you need to pay extra attention to if you go with this route.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFY2Wp5WuM0&list=PLWNqBmXeLWdrWx2vyoQI_DqANkFqJpMc0

pls respond

>>34834885
No.

Also to the autist who keeps asking "uhh can I get this for $10?" Stop asking, if you did the slightest amount of research (Google "recurve bow" and switch to the shopping tab) youd know damn well that you cannot buy a new manufactured bow for that. Really starting to regret posting in this shitty bait-ass thread.

>>34818462
DESU i really want to make my own recurve and arrows

just for shits and gigs but actually use it as well.

>>34835123
But im not asking that im being perfectly reasonable

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>>34835221
FUCKING
READ
THE
FUCKING
POST
NIGGER
The second half was directed to that faggot, whether it's you, your boyfriend or some other jackass in this stupid thread.

>>34835491

Why are you being mean?

>>34828872
And a $150 hi-point will kill you instead of sending you to the hospital like your $1500 compound bow.

Do it, it's pretty fun even with a compound that will get you in the bullseye every time. I would not use a bow for anything other than target shooting and hunting though.

>>34831582
You mean KYS, right? Because we have guns, so we could actually do it. We won't, though. Make us. C:

>>34836159
>pistol calibers
>not anemic

can diff limbs go into receivers
can i slowly assemble a bow by buying the parts slowly? limbs and a receiver

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>>34818462
Archery is for felons that can't get a gun but still want to fuck around in the world like a retarted chipmunk.

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But yeah is 40 pounds too heavy to start and how do you train those muscles then

>>34836376
You could but you usually save a little bit buying them as a package.

>>34836422
>But yeah is 40 pounds too heavy to start and how do you train those muscles then

You run the risk of injury to your rotator cuff or other stressed body parts, I would recommend starting at 25-30 and working up so that your tendons can strengthen. Best way to exercise is drawing a bow and letting off the draw, do it both right and left handed every day in a few sets of 10 reps each hand. There are also exercises that can be done at a gym but you will need to research that on your own. Make sure that you focus on your form because that is the most important thing to avoid injury.

>>34836760
i cant start at 25-30 its 40 or nothin

>>34836760
This is also assuming you perform regular exercise that includes pullups and pushups btw, those will help with your back and shoulder muscles. Some of the muscles used are fairly unique to archery and can be most effectively trained by shooting bows.

>>34836791
Well if that is your only option then go for it. Start slow and work on your form, make sure you are activating the right muscle groups. Start doing pushups and pullups as well. If you need to you can start by not drawing the bow back all the way. Key thing is to not over train, let your body recover in between sessions especially if you are starting to feel soreness.

>>34834028
It's does kill better. Keep telling yourself all that bull shit loser I can shoot carbon fiber arrows with Razer blades you shoot sticks.

>>34836159
One has nothing to do with the other you presented a horrible counter argument SHAME on you .

>>34818532
>how cheap?
A red oak selfbow requires less than $10USD in materials and less than $20 in tools, assuming you have to buy literally everything. You can make your own arrows for about $0.80 each.

>>34836858
There is nothing stopping anyone from shooting that type of arrow/arrowhead out of a traditional bow or even a cheaper compound and it will perform exactly the same. You sound like you are trying too justify your overpriced purchase to yourself, here's a hint: It wasn't really worth it and there will be something new and 'better' out next year.

>>34827912
>cheapest bow or crossbow that will last longer than 1 month of serious use: $100
>arrows that will last longer than 10 hits on a foam-cored archery target: $5 each
>arrows that will survive a single impact with a rock, tree, or concrete: don't fucking exist
You will lose arrows. You will lose fewer arrows as you gain experience, but you will continue to either outright lose them or they will break/wear out. Every game animal you shoot, expect the arrow to be trash afterwards, and consider it a blessing if it isn't.

Good arrows can be as expensive as $15 each, before points or lighted nocks, and a fully outfitted hunting arrow with a good broadhead can cost $30. And is still basically 1 time use.

>>34828332
>you cannot do that with a gun
I have a fully functioning semi-autmatic pseudo-Sten made entirely of off-the-shelf components. I have less than $30 worth of material in it including the barrel, and the only tools I used to make it were a non-powered hand drill I got at a garage sale for $0.50, a hacksaw I found as a kid, and a pair of slipjoint pliers from Home Depot.

In all honesty I probably could have made it from free scrap scrounged around the neighborhood.

>>34836991
That is pretty cool, nice work. Did you rifle the barrel yourself?

It is a bit hard to make ammo though wouldn't you say?

>>34830619
You'd be surprised. I'm a bow tech for a local sporting goods store, we sell a lot of the super adjustable "lifetime" bows from Diamond and Bear.

We chrono'd a Diamond Prism (a $300 bow) at 10lb draw weight. It produced 172fps with a 30", ~330gr arrow at 26" draw length. It's rated to an IBO of 310fps at 70lbs and 30", and I fully believe it will achieve that with standard hunting arrows and 100gr fieldpoints.

>>34818635
Compound bows only make sense for competition archery. For hunting you may as well get a crossbow instead.

>>34837024
I tried to rifle the barrel myself, yes. It's crude, but seems to work.

It's a .22lr, I haven't tried to manufacture my own (cased) ammo from complete scratch yet.

I have made homebrew black powder before, with fairly decent success (I've used it to blast log jams out of the creek on my farm, it takes a fuckload of it and good prep drilling the logs, but it works). If I had a beater muzzle loader I'd have zero qualms shooting homemade black powder behind home-cast lead balls.

In theory I know how to draw brass, but that would require at the very least an arbor press. I suppose I could make an arbor press easily enough but I'm not curious enough to try it and I don't have the patience to cut rims by hand with a file.

>>34832211
Hunting is legal is most parts of America, do you have a car?

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>>34835143
heat gun, pvc, and spraypaint anon.

>>34837063
Except there are a lot of states where crossbows either aren't legal at all, have restricted seasons compared to 'regular" bow season, or are allowed only for people with medically proven disabilities that are incapable of drawing a regular bow at legal/ethical draw weights.

>>34837050
I should also mention that for comparison, my Cajun Archery Fish Stick 45lb recurve only produced 202fps with the exact same arrow, and the shop manager's 60lb Eagle only produced 211fps with the same exact arrow.

>>34837050
> It produced 172fps with a 30", ~330gr arrow at 26" draw length

If hunting regulations didn't require such high draw weights I would bet money you could hunt most game in North America with that bow no problem. Natives used to hunt with 30lb wooden bows which I would wager were that speed or less. I think we should reform the law in that regard, there is very little reason to require such high draw weights like 55lbs, especially with modern compounds

>>34837079
Right on man, you seem like my kind of guy. I have had an interest in experimenting with the sort of thing you are doing but I haven't got around to it yet. Black powder muzzle loaders are definitely doable entirely with homemade components save the metal and barrel (which could also be done theoretically, if you had a powerful enough forge) All you need to make black powder is piss/chickenshit, hardwood charcoal, and iron oxide/sulfur.

>>34837137
...my state doesn't have a minimum draw weight for any species, and 2 of the 4 neighboring states are 35lbs.

Personally I would like to see regulations that require a minimum kinetic energy at 20 yards, simply due to the huge disparity in velocities across types and ages of bows
>my brand new Bowtech Carbon Icon 70lb bow produces almost twice the KE of my 12 year old Matthews Solocam 70lb bow, despite being $300 cheaper
>a Diamond Infinite Edge at 25lbs produces more KE than a TradTech Trident at 80lbs

>>34837137
i feel like bow manufacturers must've lobbied for the draw weight requirement to get hunters to buy their expensive bows.

>>34836849
>>34836760

Really appreciate it
my reason is that i can get a 40 pounder for really cheap at the moment, so much cheaper that i'd be willing to deal with the training and easing into it
thanks

>>34837210
That would be a lot more reasonable - hell I would be happy enough with just the 35 pound minimum. It is not like I can't shoot a heavy bow, it is just that there is no good reason for people to risk injury with these ridiculous weights for no real benefit 'specially the older folk out there or those who have old injuries that prevent them from drawing that high without pain.

>>34837211
Beats me man, no sense to it at all. I wouldn't be surprised if that had something to do with it.

>>34837250
No problem. Archery is a great sport, have fun.

>>34837111
Or are treated as rifles for the purpose of hunting.

>>34836961
>You will lose arrows.

Get some of those new trackable nocks.

https://breadcrumbtech.com/bluetooth-nock/

>>34818462
It's good for hunting and that's about it. Maybe assassination.

>>34837815
>1 costs as much as a 12 pack of Easton aluminum XX75s

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>>34837865
>aluminum

>>34837899
>Implying he want a $200 pack of super-duper carbon arrows right now

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>>34837926
>Not buying the cheapest carbon shafts instead of shitty aluminum tent post arrows that will bend irreparably after a few shots and require a large diameter whisker biscuit.

>>34824944
You can also get a $50 hooker or a used Saturday night special. Chinese fixed limb crossbows are nigger tier garbage. Chinese compounds idiots buy off eBay are complete dogshit and every one I've seen you literally have to take apart with a bow press because the limb bolts ship seised to the riser.

Low bottom end for compound archery is $300 for a bow (bear cruiser, old PSE designs like the stinger, or off brand diamonds), $50 for a non shit release, and ~$6 an arrow.

You can get a samick sage if you want a takedown recurve you won't want to throw in the trash, but you need cedar or $90 per six carbon fiber feather fletched arrows of the proper spine weight to do it right and an actual recurve worth a damn starts at about $400.

>>34831767
Keep it simple stupid?
So stand your ground laws or castle doctrine?

>>34836397
And yuropoors that cant get guns or pepperspray.

>>34834028
>Doesn't mean it kills deer better
Call me when you Chrono your selfbow at 350 fps and are getting shoot throughs on deer and boar at 40 yards.

I've got 3 traditional longbows and 3 modern recurves within 15 feet of me and you're fucking retarded to think they aren't all outclassed by a $350 compound bow tossing arrows at 70lbs with an IBO speed of 310-320 and a graduated 10-50 yard sight

>>34836422
A good 70% of the population is so dyel bitchmode that if you hand them a 40lb traditional bow they'll barely be able to pull it back. 90% of the population probably can't from day one shoot a 40lb recurve without significant fatigue within a few shots. Git gud is the only answer to this due to technique and being a weak bitch, but for pure target shooting a 25-30lber is a better option for starting out. You don't buy a .300 winmag to practice marksmanship right out the gate, you get a .22

>>34838429
>you're fucking retarded to think they aren't all outclassed by a $350 compound bow(...)

I said as much, learn to read numbnuts.

See also:
>A clean pass through the vitals of an animal has the same effect regardless of the speed of the arrow.

>>34837101
Got me a Pick up truck.

>>34838578
>I can get the same effect at 15 yards as a compound can get a 50.jpg

I enjoy the hell out of self bows but for actual shooting and marksmanship compounds are where it's at. It's stupid cheap to get a decent setup for hunting and target shooting.

>>34838395
>Not buying the cheapest carbon shafts instead of shitty aluminum tent post arrows that will bend irreparably after a few shots and require a large diameter whisker biscuit.
>Buying super cheap carbon that are guaranteed to break on any hard hit and become just as useless, except they don't look damaged without a flex test and could send razor-sharp shards through your hand if you fire them

>>34838465
Wrong

>>34818592
I've got 4 bows. Making my 5th. All were less than $50 at garage sales or Craigslist. It might take some more time, but you can get outstanding deals. I'd find one a similar way that's just as good as ones that cost hundreds, but a quarter of the price. If you're unsure about starting, don't spend hundreds.

>>34818635
And someone said earlier that you can only buy arrows in packs, not true at all. I just buy singles from Wal-Mart for a few bucks when I get below 24.
And before someone asks or says brings it up, they shoot just fine. I've won several shoots with my "shitty" walmart and Sears arrows.l

>>34819348
But fuck Lancaster. They overcharge on a majority of their stuff.

First bow I bought was a OMP Explorer 2.0 for $90. Like 35#, I think that's perfect for learning. Easy enough for beginner to handle, but strong enough where it's fun to shoot and get a real idea of how arrows fly

>>34840040
Women are people too bub. Most men can pull a 40lber, it's just that a good half of them have no upper body strength.

>>34840144
what doe sthat even mean

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>>34840070
I'd find one a similar way that's just as good as ones that cost hundreds, but a quarter of the price.

>>34842131
>Tinklebell Futas

>>34842131
I'm not tracking

>>34840089
Going to have to get something better when you leave the youth division and shoot with anyone 13 years old +.

>>34843427
Are you a winner