"Humanitarian bombing" of North Korea

Seized by the military about a minute after they fall down and sold off to finance the regime.

>>34813667
>nork government seizes all supplies
>uses them against the rest of the world
golly, that sure showed them

>>34813667
>Why don't we just drops massive shipments of arms, food, and medical supplies onto major nork cities?
What if they think it's an attack?

They'll just say it wayto piggu poison food and confiscate every thing then rebrand them such that it'll show that king kim made them all by himself.

>>34813667
>Why has no one thought of this?
because the people are so fanatical it wouldn't help at all.

>>34813681
Announce the planes as mercy flights delivering much needed supplies to the "oppressed people of North Korea". If they shoot those down they'll be at fault.

>>34813673
But they won't be able to get it all. If we drop ten thousand guns and even 2 precent of them make their way into the hands of civilians it could be enough to at least disrupt normal military operations, further displaying the impotency of the nork government and potentially inspiring more people to fight.

>>34813691
Are they really though? Or are they just so used to their slavery that they don't care anymore? A gun is a powerful thing, anon. Give an enslaved man a choice between a minute of freedom and rage against his captors, or the rest of his life in servitude, and he very well may choose the former.

>>34813667
If it doesn't work, we just fired money at them
If it works, they would probably go nuclear anyway
The regime cares about the regime, not about North Korea.

>>34813810
nah, they've believed their whole lives that they have it better than us and that the government and by extension kim is the god emperor of mankind

>>34813667
They would immediately thank their glorious leader for the gifts from the sky, then get shot.

>>34813833
What about the people who've defected? They obviously believed their government was evil, how do we know there's not more like them who simply don't have the stregth, will, or courage to make a run for the border but DO have the strength, will, or courage to sit up on a mountain top and blow off an officer's head from 1/4 of a mile away from the relative comfort of a snipers nest?

Pretty much every one of the several reasons given is valid. Your plan sucks

What if we just loudly played kpop music at them until they surrender?

>>34813948
Don't the South Koreans already do that?

>>34813667
Yea lets just give North Korea bundles of supplies yea that will show them.

>>34813774
This is so obviously a dumb idea that I'm not even going to bother examining why it's a dumb idea

I think the army should just draft prison inmates and send them as the first wave of the attack. And they should air drop porn on the major population centers.

This would only work if:

>currently engaged in combat
>army keeps the goods for itself

>>34813667
>massive shipments of arms, food, and medical supplies onto major nork cities?
Probably because the United States has no real interested in the welfare of the North Korean people -- who aren't starving anymore, by the way. I don't know what their medical situation is like, but I'd imagine they are largely covered on the basics. The US just wants another country to pile debt on, sell Nikes to, and stripe mine for rare earths.

>>34813927
That reminds me.

What does south korea do with north korean civilians or military personals that have either defected or escaped from north korea into their country?

What happens to those that got to other countries besides south korea? Do they just send them back or what?

>>34813755
>Dropping arms
>much needed supplies to the "oppressed people of NK"
>If they shoot down planes loaded with guns meant to arm an insurgency against a sovereign gov they're at fault
OK.

>>34813774
2% of 10k is 200. That will literally do nothing.

>>34814151
>What does south korea do with north korean civilians or military personals that have either defected or escaped from north korea into their country?

Debrief them, reeducate them, give them a halfway home and some money and let them live their lives in peace.

>>34813755

>Send unarmed cargo planes into the airspace of one of the most militarized nations on earth without autorization

It's like you're not even thinking.

>>34814195
Your full of shit.

They send them back to north korea because they are classified as potential north korean spies.

>>34813927
>>34813900
>>34813833
>>34813810

Sure is armchair psychologist here!

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>>34814063
>And they should air drop porn on the major population centers

>>34814222

Not even depleted Uranium is as dense as you. What about all those Nork defectors in South Korea? >>34814195 is right.

>>34814222
>You're full of shit

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north-koreans-escaped-south-face-difficulties/

>An estimated 30,000 North Korean defectors live in South Korea today, according to the South Korean government. After defectors arrive, the government trains them in social customs and job skills, and gives resettlement payments to assist with housing and education costs. NewsHour Weekend Special Correspondent Karla Murthy looks at several of their stories.

>>34814269
>>34814274
Which is full of shit again

The only reaso THOSEget to stay is because they agreed to an agreement that they will accept full monitoring and under surveillance by the government of south korea and they have to show full support for south koreansgovernment and sign up for the drafting in case they need more bodily men and women to serve in south korean military but you don't hear any of this because they have to agree on no disclosure of any of this or they risk lifetime imprisonment or being sent back to north korea.

Also they don't have the right to vote or other types of liberties such as south koreans do.

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>>34814258
Oh my god... You might be on to something here.

>>34814198
>what are escorts

>>34814151
The other anons are correct that most who make it to SK are debriefed, and then go to basically a school to teach them how to live in a real country, and then get money and assistance to live on their own.
Most that escape however escape to China, where they are used like Mexican labour in the southern US. The Chinese government though basically gives the middle finger to the international treaties regarding refugees, and any the authorities catch are deported back to NK to die in labour camps.

>>34814333
>.02 won has been deposited into your account
Source or fuck off.

>>34813667
Do you think North Korea just doesn't have antiaircraft weapons?

>>34814392
He has no sources. He's blatantly trolling. Don't reply to him.

>>34814396
Do you think we just don't have AA countermeasures?

>>34814367
You realize this would be an act of war and they would be legally entitled to shoot us down? We would be the aggressor.

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>>34813667
> 1/4th of the population will just assume we're trying to poison them.
> 1/4th will be too scared to pick them up for fear of being killed for being a traitor.
> Remaining 1/2 will be watching like hawks for the slightest chance to move up in the regime by reporting traitors

>>34814405
Good enough to keep a fleet of fucking C130s alive overflying heavily contested airspace with their cargo doors open? No.

>>34813667
>DPRK tells its people that the US Imperialists and their Southern lackeys are sending tribute to glorious dear leader in a desperate plea for his mercy
>In his wisdom he told the yankees the must distribute this directly to the common people of Korea who they have victimized for so long

>>34814405
They have an airforce, a shitty one but they have it. Don't be dumb. Unarmed transports would be met by MiG-17s, -21s, and -29s, and protecting said transports from said fighters would just begin war. Not to mention non-radar AAA weapons which cannot be jammed but still pose a threat to easy-to-hit fat cargo planes

The South has been sending balloons over for years with radios, food and medical.

If they get out of line..they die..and all of their family dies.

>>34814487

HOW WILL THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO WONDER WOMAN?

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>>34813667
>Let's give North Koreans food, money, guns, and medicine
Good call, but I'd recommend sending them your wife as well, just in case

>>34813667

That might actually work if done correctly.

>>34813681

>What if they think it's an attack?

And shoot at cargo supply falling from the sky? That would enrage the population even more.

>>34814198

What was 9/11, nigger?

The idea would probably work best if you just send so many planes that any aggression would lead to a massive clusterfuck that would end North Korea. They need to sit and wait, hoping nothing happens and then it rains fucking supplies. Combine this with a PsyOp effort with regular western people sending heartwarming messages and photographs along the supplies to remind the NORK population that we care about them and that their misery can end overnight. There is a reason NORK gov keeps its people isolated like this, if they had any real western contact they'd have a revolution on their hands.

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>>34813667
> why don't we throw consumer goods at the problem?
> I don't see why everyone in the world isn't as happy as I am with my poptarts and skateboards

>>34815083
>guns, food, and drugs are the same thing as consumer knick knacks.

>>34814410
Were already at war with the norks. If they want to shoot down cargo planes full of food and medicine (and maybe a couple guns that may or may not be in there) than they will have to deal with the international fallout.

>>34815117

> implying that they aren't in the USA

>>34815183

> muh internationul fallout

>>34814151
Google "Hanawon".

What's being missed by OP and supporters is the Asian society over individual mindset.

It's much rarer to see an Asian (in Asia), break out from the behaviour of their peers. If everyone is under the thumb, that's how it stays.

Sorry I can't go into more detail, on my phone at work.

>>34815183
>If they want to shoot down cargo planes full of food and medicine (and maybe a couple guns that may or may not be in there) than they will have to deal with the international fallout.
Are these escorts going to be killing SAM sites then? Why not replace the cargo planes with bombers, that way more planes make it.

>>34813667
You are a fucking genius.

>>34815083
To be fair, we basically one the Cold War by throwing consumer goods at our problems until they realized communism sucks.

>BorisYeltsinInGroceryStore.jpg

>>34813667
>why dont we arm some moderate rebels
Go to bed Hillary, youre drunk.

>>34814258

Yeah, they already do that. At least independent SK groups anyway

>>34813667
>What if we provoked immediate war, but without preparing for it or striking in a meaningful way?

Genius.

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>Be Kim Chen Un
>need weapons, food and money
>the Free Korean Army suddenly appears
>a lot of YouTube videos on successful operations against the regime
>a lot of high level defectors
>CIA begins pumping money and weapons to FKA
>they start to suspect something fishy after years of fruitless "battles against regime" and billions $$ lost

>>34816707
This.
Flying over food/medical supply drops would require neutralizing AA first to clear paths for cargo planes, which would trigger immediate retaliation from the Norks. This pathetically ill thought out attempt to avoid a direct war would start one as quick as a conventional plan would, but leave US/SK totally unprepared. retarded idea from the outset.

>>34813667
Worked so fucking well in Somalia, Iraq and Afghanistan. No matter what you drop, people with guns seize it first, especially if it's guns.

>>34813667
>Neocons

KYS my dude

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>>34813667
>Why has no one thought of this?
They have, genius.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhj4rH13eoc

South Koreans have been air-dropping food, DVDs, leaflets, music, etc. for years.

Choco-pies have apparently become a sort of black market currency in North Korea.

>>34813667
Look, citizens of Best Korea!
The entire world is so fearful of us that they are willing to offer tribute out of respect and fear of your leader Kim Jong Un!!!!

>>34818276
God damn it, now I need to go and get some fucking chocopies.
Fuck you.

>>34813667
Because as well as the Norks weapons work, they'd probably think it was an actual bombing with a bunch of duds.
(They would actually believe this.)

>>34818276
I recall watching a documentary about North Korea, and it was saying that illegal movies and TV shows were a very popular black market item.
People hope that the continued exposure to western and South Korean media will aid in eroding some of the conditioning.

>>34813667
>bombing" of North Korea
I'm on board but how will this kill North Korean civilians

A few years ago there was a pretty bad famine in North Korea and the UN was eventually allowed to deliver a few ship loads of rice sacks labed UN aid. NK soldiers helped unload the shipment to the quay then immediately repackaged the rice in new sack labeled 'a generous gift from your glorious leader'. UN didn't care, of course - its not like they will run out of places to supply with free stuff. But it says a lot about the regime's methods.

>>34816654
What? No. I want to arm extreme rebels. People willing to blow themselves up to free themselves of their government.

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>>34814125
yes it has nothing to do with the development of nuclear weapons by what is essentially an african warlord

>>34819897
The only African country in the equation is the US.

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>>34813667
Offer top brass, include the Kim family, immunity. Give them enough money to live in luxury for themselves as well as their sons and daughters.

Let them move out of NK to western countries to live the rest of their lives in peace. Costs few billion at best.

The conflict with NK is not about winning a war or removing Kim. It's about having an ongoing boogey man.

If the west really want NK's people to live a better lives, end the sanctions. NK was not bad before the mid 70s. It wend down hill after 70s because it lost its trade partner the Soviets and could not get any western aligned nations to trade with them. Then we hit them with one crippling sanctions after the next.

The thing with NK is never about "the good of their people" nor "removing Kim". It's about keeping a political bait alive. The more horrid NK's people suffer, the better.

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>>34819931
Yes the West totally created this boogeyman, it wasn't Kim threatening to nuke America or anything.

Good goy!

>>34819956
If the United States isn't threatened with nuclear weapons it tends to invade your country with niggers and spics.

>>34819981
>>34819956


US did the same shit on China before China developed nukes. Chairman Mao basically said fuck you US and hunkered down and got his nukes. Both Soviet and US didn't want China to have nukes so for the country to get it, both fission and fusion, is quite impressive.

After China ignited hydrogen bomb, US re-established normal diplomatic relations with China.

On the international stage, might is right, there's no such thing as "morality". You have the big guns, you have chips on the bargaining table.

>>34820025
haha while screeching about how you're going to nuke American cities?

fuck off, kike

>>34820035
wut?

>>34813673
>>34813674
Also taken as a belligerent action, which would provoke China, who likes NK as a buffer zone and will probably defend it in case of actual war.

>>34820154
China probably ending up annexing it, since it's historically Chinese territory.

>>34820169
There is no such thing as historical chinese territory

>>34813667
Heres what could happen
>Plane gets shot down
or
>Years of brainwashing doesnt instantly come undone with a gun, doritos and morphine
>Gets reported to authorities
>You have just given the NK gov lots of arms

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>>34820169
>wanting actual responsibility over the shithole that is NK
NK is so poor, even geographically, that their citizens/subjects dont even have cotton shirts. they make most of their fabric out of spun fibrous minerals. they literally have to wear rocks. rocks, anon. fucking rocks

>>34814360
Your reaction picture is actually satire of the movie Deathbed: the bed that kills people. Patton Oswald has a bit about it.

>>34819897
idk man mr. jong un seems more reasonable than Big Daddy Illest Il

>>34818260
not to mention vietnam, corea, all kinds of island shitholes in the pacific, and china

every time the cia drops weapons somewhere, they either get into the Bad Guys hands first, or the Good Guys become the Bad Guys within a few years

>>34815072
>What was 9/11, nigger?
Well-scheduled passenger planes doing a domestic flight that got fucking highjacked is what it was.

Not military cargo planes flying into the restricted airspace of a hostile nation in an attempt to rile up the populace and arm would-be rebel groups.

The fuck, dude?

>>34813691
Not even close to true now. The top 0.1% living in Pyongyang and maybe some military volunteers might be full patriotic, but the common people are getting fed up with their situation. As long as they don't express bad political views or have contraband they typically won't get disappeared anymore. Smuggled footage even shows some people bitching at and pushing around local officials without punishment.