VOLUNTARY UPGRADE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>34812853
>product a shit that can get someone killed if they drop it
>offer an "upgrade" to fix the problem
>"WOW SIG SUCHA GOOD COMPANY HOW CAN ANYONE COMPETE?!"

Are Sigfags this delusional?

>>34812890
>>34812882

found the glawkfanbois.

>>34812968

shut your whore mouth before I drop your Sig

I dropped my sig off but it discharged and killed the repair guy.

>>34812853
>voluntary upgrade

It should be a mandatory safety recall.

Good to see them acknowledge their mistake and move to correct it. Better than other brands like Remington.

>>34812853

well with a ceo like (((ron cohen))) no wonder this poo/american firearm is sketchy

It's a conspiracy to put chips in your guns to kill it, don't do it
t. Lazzarus

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>>34814732
And they say pistol rounds have no stopping power

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>>34812853
>This is why SIG is #1

I have one, and I fully intend to send it in, but have they released any more details? What kind of trigger upgrade will be given? And I imagine turn around times will be horrendous.

>>34816975

Dude, don't worry. It's an upgrade, its intended to improve the gun FOR FREE.

SIG always has our back. Their customer service is second to none.

I can't wait to get my new crisp trigger.

I'd still have a P320 over a glock desu famalams

>anti-sig posing as sigboi trolling other anti-sigs and the anti-sigs still bite

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>>34816975
>SIG always has our back
Kek. When did you buy your P320?

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>>34812853
"voluntary"

>>34817011
Around December. Its an older model though. Sat on my LGS wall for a while before I bought it.

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I'll drop what I'm doing and shoot on over there.

>>34812853
I believe that's called a recall.

>>34812853
>This fucking falseflagging

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Did we just fucking beta test their pistol???

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>>34817172

>>34814763
This

>>34817349
ceo is jewish, what did you expect

>>34816975
They should be releasing more info on the 14th iirc.

>>34817848
If this is true I am never ever going to buy anything from Sig then

But i m calling bullshit on that

>>34817919
But, um, that's racist
>>34814715
At least Sig is open about their failures. Glock would deny it. "Our guns are perfect," and then secretly fix the issue. Like theyve done in the past.

>>34817939
But sig literally did deny it though. After the Dallas pd recalled them and that police office who got shot sued them, they issued a bs statement claiming that they were drop safe. Then mere hours later, omahaoutdoors released their slow motion high def video conclusively proving that they werent drop safe. Then they came up with a new line of bullshit, saying that it was drop safe from all but an extremely specific angle. Then there were more videos showing that hitting the back of the slide can cause it to fire too, so it's not just the triggers mass pulling it back that's causing it. Now sig has come out with the "voluntary upgrade" because they know how much is on the line with this thing.

Literally one of the most disengenuous companies I've ever seen.

>>34818004
Any company is going to deny only one instance of a failure. But they owned up to it once their was a pattern. And the issue must have already been fixed on the new models considering how they have the fix less than a week from it becoming a known issue and the army models already have this fix.
Apple or Glock are more likely to sue you for trying to bash their perfect product.

>People unironically being cucks for a company that pushes an unacceptable product
>Made by a company who's CEO also made Kimbers absolute trash
>A company whose QC had dropped to garbage levels

>>34818045
>Deny that there's an issue until they no longer can
>Didn't immediately test their gun when the first few reports came out and called their consumers liars
>HURRR DURRRR SIG IS GREATEST

If you send your gun in for the recall you are making it more unsafe.

"If you build it completely drop safe, you legitimize mishandling. Inherently guns are not meant to be dropped, and are unsafe when dropped.”

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/08/sig-sauer-acknowledges-p320-trigger-issues-with-30deg-drop-m17-mhs-unaffected-announces-voluntary-p320-upgrade/

>>34818232
Cars aren't meant to be crashed but I expect my air bags to deploy in the event it does happen.

>>34816975
Well worth it for a pistol that looks so AGRO

>>34818264
What makes you think you know better than the CEO of SIG? How has your life in your mom's basement qualified you to even post on a Peruvian ceramics forum?

>>34818232
SIG shitposts IRL at kangaroo level.

>>34812853
So they don't get sued??!?

>>34818296
the only real reason they're "voluntarily" "upgrading" their pistols is to prevent that.

Since when did the term "fixing fundamental safety flaw that can literally fuck their market" become "voluntary upgrade"?

>>34814831
Remington did the same thing you retard

>They didn't buy a glock brand glock

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>>34818232
>Its a feature
Thanks sig

>“Drop safe,” Cohen explained, “Those two words don’t exist together. No gun is drop safe. It’s a function of angle, height and surface. If you build it completely drop safe, you legitimize mishandling. Inherently guns are not meant to be dropped, and are unsafe when dropped.”

Pretentious bullshit to the nth degree as always from sig.

Shame how absolutely shit the company has become.

>>34818361
When? Last I heard the R51 still doesn't work.

>>34818346
because thebgun meets safety standards for drop safety (although those atandards may be insufficient), so they don't have to call it a recall
plus, by not calling it a recall, they protect themselves legally in the case of a lawsuit because they aren't admittong there's a flaw

SIG is fixing the problem, but lawyers wrote the press release
pretty par for the course

>>34818201
So Glock?

I'm not going to be able to sell my p320 anytime soon. Shit.

>>34818648
Wait that was the ceo that said that
Thats really disappointing.

>>34812890
I've never owned a Sig, but I will tell you that I am impressed when a company fixes its fuckups. I was unfortunately on the buying end of a brand new Ruger LCP, the gun with in my humble opinion the worst trigger ever invented, and Ruger absolutely refused warranty service to myself and thousands of others. Instead, they just developed the LCP Custom and LCP2 with updated trigger. I keep the damn thing in my range bag now just to show everyone I shoot with what a massively inaccurate and borderline unsafe piece of shit it is.

Sig may be no different, but in Sig's case it isn't even debatable that this is a safety issue. Fixing it makes economic sense. Ruger's decision not to fix their LCP triggers probably made economic sense to them as well because they know a lot of people will keep buying Ruger even if they throw an occasional dud model and refuse to support/fix it.

By the way, an LCP will do the exact thing Sig is worried about when dropped...Ruger got around this by simply saying not to carry with a round in the chamber.

>>34818232
>“Drop safe,” Cohen explained, “Those two words don’t exist together. No gun is drop safe. It’s a function of angle, height and surface. If you build it completely drop safe, you legitimize mishandling. Inherently guns are not meant to be dropped, and are unsafe when dropped.”

Holy shit, eat a dick SIG.

No other striker pistol on the market has this problem. Stop trying to deny your product has a serious flaw and puts people in danger.

>>34819535
>company offers fix after $6,000,000 lawsuit filed by officer who was sauered in his knee
>sig knew about issue for at least a year
>impressed

ok

>>34819511
Yup. Add this bullshit to all the outsourcing of parts from India and SIG is looking about as competent as Springfield Armory these days. When they pulled that "lifestyle image" shit with their gay-as-fuck Legion promotion I pretty much wrote them off as a serious company. Much like S&W they are riding on the historical perception of their company as providing a premium high-quality product when in fact they now charge you a premium for an exceedingly average or in some cases below average product.

>>34818691
>when your lawyers go into over drive but you still end up doing the right thing

I don't think you people realize that sig could theoretically have ignored all of this on legal grounds. The sig is legally speaking, drop safe.

What they're doing now is for PR sake. They realize if they don't fix it their reputation will go down.

Not only is it voluntary for the consumer but it's also voluntary for the Sig

>>34819615
>The sig is legally speaking, drop safe.
It passes government mandated drop standards. That doesn't mean a defective product lawsuit is impossible. Especially if they knew about the issue for a year and didn't do anything there could possibly be civil liability.

>>34812853
>sig #1
This post made me accidentally discharge.

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>>34819545
>some jew uses circular logic to justify shipping a faulty product that could potentially lead to severe injury, or death to consumers, and they likey knew before hand that it was a potential issue

I am shocked.

>>34819551
>Sig's ceo is a jew
>being sued for 6 million
kek
>>34819559
which smith products does this apply to,I assume the revolvers?

>>34817919
>CEO Ron (((Cohen)))
Stay in denial faggot. Face it you got Cohen'd.

>>34816366
>>34819559
What parts are being outsourced to India? Is it on the p320's, or across other sig's as well?

>>34819721
Yes specifically their revolvers. The semi-auto market is way too crowded for them to compete with the kind of bullshit they pull with their over-priced wheelguns.

>>34819749
Not those anons but I think 320 triggers but not 100%

>>34818045
>critical failure, isolated event
>deny
>multiple reports
>fail to conduct tests yourself and continue to deny
>btfo status
>well at least we didn't waste money conducting our own tests lol

>>34819749
There's no comprehensive data anon. Do some googling to see the variety. Here's a couple off the top.

http://www.nevadashooters.com/showthread.php?t=65182

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/05/25/the-real-firearm-in-india/

>>34819615
>implying losing a multi million dollar contact is voluntary
>implying sig has a choice and would otherwise have its stock and investors implode

I don't know who is Sigging who know, this is all Glocked up

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>>34819787
>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/05/25/the-real-firearm-in-india/

>They currently, or have in the past, produced firearm parts for IWI, Sarsilarz, SIG and Meprolight.
>2 of the 4 companies are based is Israel, Sig is run by a former IDF.
wew lad

And I thought FN was pathetic for sending Hi-power's to Portugal to get assembled, at least those aren't made out of poo parts.

>>34819855
I'm telling you SIG is total meh-tier product with great marketing charging meme-lords 2x what they should be paying for the same functionality/quality they could get from many other companies.

>>34819855
Someone post the Jericho engraving fail

>>34816975
Turnaround time will be fast because they have the entire custom shop crew working literally 24/7 testing and upgrading guns

>>34818004
They explained that the guns had passed MIL-STD 810G

Remember how both gen 1 AND gen 2 Glocks weren't drop safe?

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>>34819535
>worst trigger ever invented
That award goes to pic related. It makes a hand nuggets DA trigger feel refreshingly light and crisp.

>>34819880
I never liked sig or took them too seriously, mainly because of how sig owners act and whole legion,moldy labia, cheesy special edition guns. But this is just pathetic. Sad see shit like the p320 sharing the same name as guns like the P210.

>>34820078
Don't forget the Rainbow ones they made.

>>34820066
tbf it was designed as a 3 round burst machine pistol.

>>34806605

We have a General for this

Sage

>>34820132
Fuck off namefag

>>34820092
I know, but the trigger pull on the original, as well as on the civilian Z model is utter shit.
Come on! At the civi model could have been unfucked.

>>34819855
>And I thought FN was pathetic for sending Hi-power's to Portugal to get assembled
What's wrong with this?

>>34820170
It's like an $1100 pistol on the low end, they should at least have someone other than proto-hues put them together.

>>34820148
I'm confused and amused. Either you don't know the historical use of 'Sage' or you are making a joke.

This is some good stuff because either way it is funny. I'm betting on newfag not /k/unning /k/ommando.

>sage goes in all fields

>>34820148
>>34820306
Lol gottem

>>34818522
You made me dig out my ancient Zone Archive folder and fap hard to that Juri Han flash. Jeezy mate. I also stumbled upon the old Moot x WT Snacks animations by zone. What a trip down memory lane.

>>34819559
Springfield armory sold out to the government. Don't buy from them.

>>34812890
They are. It's sad.

>>34819755
What?
Overpriced how
Do you expect American made steel revolvers to cost as much as polymer guns and Brazilian made garbage?
Smith and Wesson is a great fucking company

>>34820306
>capitalizing sage
I bet you pronounce it like the herb too, idiot.

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>>34820610

Hate to break it to you kid, but outside of their custom shop guns and their exotic materials guns, S&W uses the same manufacturing techniques and materials as Taurus they just have slightly better QC.

>>34820656
And do expect American Labor to cost .50 cents an hour like workers will get paid in Brazil?
And slightly better qc my ass.

>>34820714
Believe whatever you want anon. Anyone who knows wheelgats knows S&W quality has fallen off a cliff since their heyday. And as they have modernized their production methods they have cut every corner possible in overall quality while still marketing themselves as a premium brand.

Your reaction shows how successful their marketing is at trading on their historic reputation.

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>>34818232

Did you just admit your SIG guns have less functionality than a 1906 revolver?

>>34818648
That is some talmudic reasoning there

>>34820786
When did things start to go down for smith revolver wise? I know the obvious hillary hole stuff, but not much about the modern stuff besides that.

>>34820382

At least my XD didn't shoot me in the face when I dropped it from 10 feet while the it was loaded with the slide racked back.

I wouldn't be here right now if I had a sig 320

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>>34812853

The p320s are going for like 300-500 now, imma a buy one, send it in for the "upgrade" and viola! I have a fixed sig pistol for super cheap

>>34820918
Production-wise it varies on certain things as to exact year changes were made (finishes, MiM-parts, etc, etc) You can pinpoint when things were never going to be the same to the minute that police started dropping revolvers for autos. Once the economies of scale were lost and revolvers became a niche product it pretty much became impossible to keep the quality up to historical standards while maintaining a price point that your average gun-owner could justify paying.

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>>34821020
aye yo checkit

>>34821023
But you would still own a SIG..

>>34817172

Nice kek Carlos

>>34821109
Yeah and? I also own a glawk and a Beretta. I have guns to have guns, not play into this stupid manufacturer favoritism

>>34821154
>I also own a Beretta
Awwww it's retarded

>>34818201
>who's
whose

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>>34812853
>optional

>>34821023
>I have a fixed sig pistol for super cheap

I can't wait until someone drop tests a "fixed" Sig and it still goes off because it obviously isn't just the trigger since it can go off even when hit with a rubber mallet. The butthurt will be legendary.

why is everyone pretending this is the first time a gun has ever been recalled?

>>34821591
Because it was literally just adopted by the Army

>>34816975
Holy shit the responses. Probably legitimate shills

>>34821624
and?

>>34821659
It's also the first handgun designed in a century that isn't drop safe

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>>34821591
>>34821659

>>34820250
>guns assembled in a modern European country with democracy and a developed economy
what are you mad about?

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Bwahaha

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>>34822732

ITS OGRE

>>34822628
For $1100 I want it to be assembled by actual white people.

>>34822789
>60%
But you're not white