I got an SBR now (legal where I'm in), but I'm debating whether or not it would be practical if I ever need to go innawoods when western society collapses.
It's an AR with an 11.5 inch barrel. If it matters, I live in the city/suburbs.
pic isn't mine.
>>34811888
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/714088_Suppressed-5-56-SBR-Velocity-Tests--41-Factory-Loads-from-10-5--11-5--12-5-and-14-5-ALL-DONE-.html
>>34811902
>http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/714088_Suppressed-5-56-SBR-Velocity-Tests--41-Factory-Loads-from-10-5--11-5--12-5-and-14-5-ALL-DONE-.html
Can't suppress my rifle legally, they're not allowed.
>>34811902
That's actually a pretty good thread.
Those results, specifically the power velocity SD ammo tests seem to clash with the "glorified .22" meme.
>>34813207
>That's actually a pretty good thread.
Can you dumb down the thread results, I'm getting confused..
Honestly, if you're innawoods or just in a spread out city even, 14.5 - 16 are your best options. 11.5, assuming it still cycles properly, would only be good in really dense areas like inside buildings or in cities like Hong Kong, New Delhi, Rio de Janeiro, cities where it's essential to keep moving and be maneuverable. In an American city, generally 14.5 is your best bet, SBR wise, but even then I'd trust a 16 most.
>>34815733
For people who aren't restricted to FMJ, modern hunting/self-defense loads allow guns as short as 10.3" to be effective out to 2-300 yards.
12.5" barrels deserve to be more popular because they offer ballistics practically indistinguishable from 14.5" in a noticeably smaller package.
>>34817914
For the same OAL, I'd rather have a short barrel and a can than the extra fifty yards or so of effective range a longer barrel offers.
>>34812743
that's doesn't matter since a can will not add any noticeable velocity
>>34813207
yup, even with a 10.3 barrel the 5.56 get 7-800lb of energy.
that's more than most pistol calibers and with the right ammo, it performs wonderfully
>>34811888
It'll be fine. MACV-SOG used 11.5s to great effect back in the day, and bullets have come a long way since then.
>>34811888
>SBR
Its literally the perfect truck gun