Jesus Christ...

>>34811504
they still arent going to get that army handgun contract

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>>34811504

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>>34811518
We'll see about that.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-us-military-conduct-thorough-investigation-m17-modular-handgun-systems-dropsafe-flaw

>>34811536
its going to go to beretta, sig and glockfags know it but wont admit it

>>34811504
S A V A G E

>>34811553
If you think I'm a glockfag you're wrong. I'm actually a Waltherfag, but nice try.

>>34811536
>actually thinking a petition would do anything
Holy shit. Glockfags are either children or leftists.

>>34811504
fucking wew. that's fucking your caretaker and removing your kids from the will tier savage right there.

Is this basically the /k/ equivalent of the console wars now?

>>34811570
and im a revolverfag, but i enjoy the damage control by sigfags and glockfags smelling their own farts outta champagne glasses

>>34811574
Says the Sig Nig

>>34811574
Actually if we reach 100k signatures the Whitehouse will be forced to ackownldege the problem and make a statement. A statement that will shit all over Sig Sauers reputation

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>>34811504
what happens if you own both?

>>34811623
it cripples your ability to take and edit photos?

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>>34811504
M9A3 with no retraining and the ability to use m9 parts and magazines soon. The eternal m9 will see America through to Mars and beyond

>>34811634
no one really care

>>34811504

The absolute savagery

>>34811602
>>34811617
You're about as desperate and delusional as Clinton voters over an issue that probably affects you less than the lint in your belly buttons. Get lives.

>>34811673
False. I don't want to go to the range and have to worry about some Sig autist dropping his P320 and shooting my dick off.

This type of shit is undefendable stop parading that Sig cock up your ass.

>>34811655

This desu.

There's gonna be space marines icing aliens with m9s with smooth bores with silver frames and slides because the paint has long gone away.

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>>34811673
Oh and just so you know I actually own a fucking Sig, a 2022 and it doesn't have this problem. Striker fired pistols were a mistake.

>>34811504
Why are both of these options so bad?

>>34811705
Have fun achieving at the MOST 100 signatures and thinking you matter anon.

>>34811718
>implying they won't just start manufacturing new ones using space-age alloys and advanced metallurgical techniques

>>34811735
If you don't sign this you're a tremendous Sig shill who would rather see people die than to see their favorite gun manufacturer get criticised.

>>34811617
Like, #resist, like oh my gawd guys.

>>34811826
You can't assign motive to inaction you fucking leftist.

>if you don't support BLM you're a racist who wants blacks to get killed!!!

That's you. That's how you sound.

>>34811868
False equivalence you kike.

>>34811826
>If you don't sign this you're a tremendous Sig shill who would rather see people die
What is it about Blocks that attracts so many mouth breathers?

>>34811895
That's not false equivalency it's you pulling information and motive based on the assumption that if someone doesn't want to do what you want them to do they are evil. Eat shit and drop a Sig next to your face faggot.

>>34811826
"WAAAH IF YOU DON'T SIGN THIS YOU'RE LITERALLY A RUSSIAN SHILL DRUMPFLORD SUPPORTER"
Hahaha you're so fucking cute. You're like a child. Grow the fuck up.

>>34811903
>>34811924
>>34811953
There is literally no other reason not to sign this other than 1) being a Sig shill or 2) being a nihilistic homo who doesn't give a shit about the safety of our troops

>>34811720
Yes, god forbid they copy bolt action rifles for a trigger pull that's the same for every round in the magazine. Won't someone, anyone, think of the children.

>>34811826
> Wants me to hate Sig
> Wants me to protect Sig owners from shooting themselves

>>34811980
I don't need to care about the fucking Army I'm not in their chain of command nor and I in a decsicion making position for them. I don't have to get involved in every fucking issue that comes my way. That's called staying in your lane.

t. Blue card carrying retired milfag

>>34812014
>I suck so much that I can't use a DA/SA trigger, the post

>>34812027
The troops have no choice in the matter tho

>>34812030
Ok so you're in the nihilistic homo group. Got it.

>>34812041
Most troops never even touch a pistol you act as if they are running in to a battalion building and throwing P320s. Calm down faggot.

>>34812052
Yep, cry harder

>>34811536
lmao name one whitehouse.gov petition that accomplished asnything at all, hell name one that got so much as a response from any White House staff

rofl faggot

>>34811617
Remember this?
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-nfa

>>34811980
>who doesn't give a shit about the safety of our troops
>I CARE I CARE I SIGNED A PETITION ONCE
>IM QUALIFIED CAUSE I CARE ABOUT DA TROOPS
Fact
There is literally no reason to sign this other than 1) being a BLock shill or 2) being a piece of shit that hides his own agenda behind the facade of actually caring for the troops
If you actually cared about the troops you'd do more than signing a petition asking the government to the thing that they're already going to do.

>>34811536
What would the petition even do? It's not a petition to give the contract to glock, it's to "investigate" the drop safety. Which is pointless because we know it's the shitty trigger mechanism that causes it.

>>34812080
They do get responses you dumbass.

>>34812093
We're only aiming for a response. Remember this issue could cost the lives of military personnel, if they choose to ignore our ploy and troops begin to die it will be on their heads.

>>34812119
>They do get responses you dumbass.
post a single one, topic doesn't matter. Prove a human at the white house reads the petitions

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>its a poorfags bitch about sig episode

>>34812119
>if they choose to ignore our ploy
your disingenousness is showing

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>>34812119
>guys we have to save them!!!! Being an armchair activist and creating a petition is the only way!!

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>>34812107
>>34812099

>>34811826
or you suck glock's cock like a 3 euro austrian whore

>>34812107
It's not though. It can be fired by tapping the back of the slide with a nylon mallet.

>>34812093
Did that ever get a response?

>>34812146
>armchair activist

You want me to storm the fucking Pentagon?

>>34812159
>Glock shill
Is the only argument you niggers can muster?

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>>34812133
You're like a bigger bragging that you just copped a bottle of frenchs mustard

>>34812150
>we call on the U.S. military
> we
>call
>on
hahahah you actually think your opinion matters to the U.S military.
>I HAVE A VOICE YOU MUST LISTEN
>how petitions work
>work
Fuckin' lol.

>>34812172
Yes, please go to the Pentagon and tell them how you know better than they do.

>Listen up guyz I've been doing research on an anime forum...

>>34812196
Holy shot that's cheap
Might as well buy one, send it back to sig for the free "upgrade"

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>>34812208
Hmmmmm

>>34812080
The petition to build a death star

>>34811655
They just need to get a compact version with a thumb safety and 15 round mags to satisfy the small people. Berettas are durable as hell after the teething issues

>>34812280
Good to see the faggots in DC taking their jobs seriously. White House petitions are an open joke

>>34812317
Yeah, but I answered your question, weather it was a legit petition or not, it fulfills the requirements of your challenge

>>34812057
tbf, werent they talking about getting a bunch of extras to hand out to SAW gunners and Humvee gunners and stuff? Like making the new pistols more widely issued?

>>34812352
This is how pistols work. They go to a unit and the unit officers and senior NCOs snatch them all up because the lazy fucks don't want to carry a rifle to the chow hall.

>>34812376
Ah so more pistols = more NCOs grabbing them up?

Is the only solution to buy like a million of them to ensure like half the US military has access to prevent hoarding? Also, 16" ARs are light as hell, how lazy can you be not to carry an M4

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Hey guys remember that hundreds of times that the "legalize pot" crowd got their required number of signatures and the white house was just like "ok we hear you -- not gonna do shit but we hear you lol"

>>34812397
Add a light, peq, optic, etc and you're over 10lbs

don't underestimate the lazy

>>34811504
I would buy a Glock if it didn't have those finger grooves

>>34812447
Any statement will incriminate them if people start dying and they ignored the issue.

>>34811570
>being somehow worse

>>34811504
That's pretty funny t b h

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>>34811980
army sigs already have the good triggers.

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>>34812881
>sig
>good triggers

>>34811655
double stack 1911 plox in government sanctioned .45 ultra

>>34812881
It's not a trigger issue it a striker retainment issue.

>>34812881
>guns go boom when hit on the back of the slide and no trigger movement

Sig is literally fucked. The fundamental operation of the firearm is unsafe.

>>34812936
>>34812953
>being intentionally obtuse
Army Sigs are drop safe because they are mechanically different than the civilian and police Sigs.

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>>34811504

SIG ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>34813037
>Army Sigs are drop safe because they are mechanically different than the civilian an
NO they are not, they are mechanically identical other than the manual safety which disables the trigger and does not impede the striker in any way.

These AD's from dropping are caused by a problem with the striker, not the trigger. They are occurring even when the trigger does not move.

>>34813037
Exactly in what way?

>>34811814
They will, but the army will fail to get rid of the old ones, like usual.

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/08/sig-sauer-acknowledges-p320-trigger-issues-with-30deg-drop-m17-mhs-unaffected-announces-voluntary-p320-upgrade/
Looking at this writeup, apparently the new FCG has a redesigned "disconnect." That might be the same thing as a disconnector (the mechanism what keeps a semiautomatic gun from firing until trigger reset). This might also help keep the striker from moving until the trigger is completely pulled.

>>34812107
>we know it's the shitty trigger mechanism that causes it
The trigger isn't "shitty" it's has more mass than the M17 variant. Oh, and while we're on that subject, what the idiots who made the petition aren't aware of is that the M17 internals don't suffer this issue, only the civvie pre-XM17 trials do.
truthaboutguns.com/2017/08/jeremy-s/mechanics-behind-sig-p320-drop-safety-failures/

>>34812119
>We're only aiming for a response.
Oh, good. (You) sluts are accosting the White House now in their ignorance.

>>34813066
>Exactly in what way?

Read the article linked here
>>34813115

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>>34811623
You shoot your glock causing you to explode causing you to drop your sig causing you to shoot yourself.

>>34813184
No, hy don't you tell me in your own words child.

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Be honest here. What the Army adopts will affect maybe .1% of you. All that this really changes is what gets dropped on the surplus market in 2040, and it's either going to be a shitload of cheap ass Glocks or a shitload of cheap ass Sigs. We're never getting Colts or Berettas ever again.

>>34813428
different fire control group, with redesigned disconnected which impinges on the firing pin to make it drop safe.

the real news is that Sig has known about unsafe guns for over a year and has continued to sell them to you but sent the "updated" guns to the army for trials.

savage

OMFG SIG can eat a bag of dicks it's official. You get raped because of how you dress.

"If you build it completely drop safe, you legitimize mishandling. Inherently guns are not meant to be dropped, and are unsafe when dropped.”

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/08/sig-sauer-acknowledges-p320-trigger-issues-with-30deg-drop-m17-mhs-unaffected-announces-voluntary-p320-upgrade/

>>34813731
>We're never getting Colts or Berettas ever again.
And nothing of value was lost.

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>>34812133
>Fuck.
>You.
From a Sig p226 SSE owner. Seriously. Quality used to mean something...

Nice b8 m8

>>34812119
>They do get responses you dumbass.
The Trump administration has not responded to a single petition on that site that I'm aware of.

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>>34811504
Holy fuck, Glock is going into Wendy's troll levels now

>>34811826
I think your a anti gunner. being a Glock guy would do this to another gun company. The Gun community does a good job policing shitty companies. Sig is not a shitty company. You willing to hurt a company and put people out of work? That's Un-American and a scumbag move. Sigs honoring the repair. That's good enough for me. You trying to use us to harm our second amendment. Your a shill.

>>34813853
kek
>it is unsafe to make a drop safe pistol

now they've done it

>>34812027
He's a anti gunner, trying to use us. He's shilling hard.

>>34812080
He's a Anti-gun fag..

>>34814190
>SIG
>not a shitty company

>>34813905
Sig still makes p226s. The p320 is for a certain price point.

>>34811590
yes

>>34814254
Sig p226, and you can eat shit

>>34814254
Come on now, saying that just makes you seem like you've never held any sigs

>>34811504
>Coming from a company who's guns literally explode from normal use
Not trying to defend Sig, but come on now. Glock has no room to talk.

>>34814281
....never said shit about that. Just that quality meant something. Got a 226 from over 15 years ago. Bought one a few montths ago. Worlds difference in quality. Now? fuck everything.

>>34814294
>>34814343
Exeter built SIGs are dog shit
The only SIGs I've liked are the German made stamped slide ones

>>34814190
>Sig is not a shitty company because I say so

Oh wow

>>34811504
>Before you lose a 580 MILLION dollar contract
>Consider that some people still believe in Glock perfection, and laugh, laugh because even with the fix, considering the military acceptance of defunct weapons, Glock still won't get it

>implying Glock isn't behind all these new anti-Sig threads, memes, and comments because they're still 100% pure sodium over the fact that they didn't have their pistols chosen and therefore need to go on another advertising campaign on social media and the Babylonian shoe-examining board

>>34811518
>Sig with huge under bid

Seals use Block
FBI use Glock
Market share of LE use Block

>Reliability
>Dependability

>>34814963
Fuck my auto correct

>>34814981
i didnt know Seals and FIB use blocks, also its gonna go to the M9A3

>>34811623
They have a 226 at my lgs for 1k

Worth?

>>34812276
jesus, celluloid photography is just so much more beautiful than digital. No matter what you shoot it just looks good.

>>34811655
Dubs of truth
Beretta eternal

>>34811617
>you reach 100k signatures...
>white house absolutely forced to respond
>white house response: get fucked glockfags.

>>34811504
>There will never be a US Military service sidearm in .38 Super

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>>34811536
imagine being as autistic as a GLOCK fanboy, thinking that a petition will be the catalyst for a military investigation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTRjXD7AVU

eat a dick

>>34815020

Which version of the 226 there's what...11 variants of the same thing?

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>>34811504

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>>34811504
>Be GLOCK and lose easy contract to a new striker fired handgun made by a company that does not have a fraction of the consumer coverage and recognition in the pistol market.
>Some retard finds out that if dropped at a non mil-spec testing angle the gun you lost to will allow blanks to go off.
>Autistic wannabe Navy SEAL guns&gear, EDC, and gun review channels from all over Instagram jump on the bandwagon of your plastic handguns.
>Your fanboys ACTUALLY CARE that you lost the contract and are willing to defend you on every forum on the internet under the guise that a gun might go off if dropped from over a meter at a specific angle.
>Tweet shit like this as your sales plateau

Imagine

>>34815417
The base model I guess. Just black finish, regular barrel, no fancy markings

>>34815484
Non milspec testing angle? Are you really this obtuse?

>>34815484
> Be Sig
> Make a gun that is somehow less safe than guns from that start of the last century
> get some police officers knee shot out
> "lmao glock on suicide watch"
Watching the sig damage control is hilarious.

>>34815542
>$6,000,000
>shattered confidence
priceless

>>34815541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch7si_VQsGA

He starts out the video saying that the angle and part of the gun that it is dropped at is and was not a part of the military testing and not necessary for it to pass.

Sounds like you just sort of walked in on this?

>>34815505

If it's the Nitron full size then...yeah, that'll be about the right price for new at MSRP.

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>>34813356
underrated

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>>34811504
Man that's embarassing

>>34814963
SEALs use P226 (MK25)*

*https://navyseals.com/weapons-demo/m11/

>>34812276
>he still believes tha ar meme
Wouldn't have thought better of a nadeposter

>>34811504

Did they take this down. I don't see this on their twitter

>>34812169
NOPE

>>34815621
Necessary to pass does not change the fact that IT SHOOTS IF YOU DROP IT. Wanna know how I know you never served? These people will fuck up anything on a weapon.

>>34815238
You forgot your "XD" m8

>>34815484
>non mil-spec testing angle

wew lad, that's some strong autism you got there

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>>34817317

Nah, i have it right here.

>>34816388
Truth, idiot proof means nothing when it comes to items intended for the military. It needs to be grunt proof.

>>34817421

I'm really surprised they call it that.

>be some guy wanting to hang himself
>buy sig without "voluntary upgrade"
>"drop it" and "accidentally" kill yourself
>your family sues SIG and gets a boat of shekels

>>34812014
>Copy bolt action rifles for a trigger pull
>Has to finish cocking the gun every shot instead of dropping the sear
>6.5 lbs of mushy long pull instead of a crisp break
>Not being able to do DA/SA like a n00b

You're worse than OP

>>34811504
kek

>>34811720
Other striker guns don't have this problem though, just sig.

>>34814190
Exeter sig is a very very shitty company.

See: Everything about the Sig 556, the MCX safety, extraction, and accuracy issues, which eventually resulted in a recall, the p320 safety issues, which eventually resulted in a "voluntary upgrade", the sig 716 and p938 qc issues, their low quality chinese optics, etc.

I would not buy ANYTHING made by sig unless I was 100% sure sig usa had nothing to do with it.

Px4 when?

>But muh silencers

Silencers only get used by SF, and SF carry whatever the fuck they want. M9A3s are fine too.

>>34815872
http://www.bluesheepdog.com/2016/01/06/glocks-n-seals/

*used

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>>34818093
You just like the spinny barrel.

You are a man of taste

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>>34811536
>6 signatures

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>>34811504
Glock still sour that they didn't win and will never win. Even police departments are now switching to other pistols instead of using glocks, what you are hearing are the death screams of glockfags as their "perfect" pistol fades into obscurity.

>>34818557
Sure kid

Faggots buy exetershit