You got 1 minute to explain why you don't own the best value in small/mid-sized pistols available on the market today
>CZ, from the Bohemian gun making tradition
>simple and reliable straight blowback operation
>fixed barrel improve accuracy
>polygonal rifling improves velocity and accuracy, and is untraceable by forensics
>medium size suitable for CC (especially with aftermarket thin grips)
>12 round capacity is enough for HD and more than enough for CC
>ambidextrous safety and mag releases for the sinister among us
>C&R eligible
so, why don't you own one?
I live in bongland
>>34798536
I'm sorry for your loss
get yourself an Enfield instead
>>34798530
Its trash for poorfags.
>>34798530
I'm noguns europoor
>not the 7,65 83 version
pleb
>>34798555
trips confirms
I'd love to own one
sounds like an absolutely phenomenal plinker
All the surplus ones left at a reasonable price are really beat up
>>34798530
>conceal carrying milsurp
>carrying anything in 9x18
i own one but: they have a lot of small parts for what it is, actual cz mags are pricey, atleast $40+ each (not the shitty $20 cz mfg ones), and not everyone wants to shoot 9 mak.
also bulgarian makarovs are cheaper and despite being single stack, an arguably preferable alternative.
>>34798530
Makarov is better for CC. But I agree they're cool guns.
>>34798784
>Makarov is better for CC.
What makes you say that?
>>34798740
I agree, I got a Mak. Regardless of single stack mags (which for cc is really a non issue) I think its better. Rugged as Fuck, easy to maintain and use, and a good enough caliber that's rather cheap to get at fun shows. Simply preference tho.
Because they aren't drop safe and are like $350, which I could get literally anything else in a more available caliber with.
>>34798530
Classic got some in but sweaty Ben is charging $350. Fuck that.
>>34798545
With the right class of FAC in Britain you can own a .50 cal.
>>34800155
This. And these dumb faggots will still beg borrow or steal enough money to let him keep fucking people out of surplus.
Because I carry a full size CZ 75B instead like a big boy.
>>34798530
I have a cz83 and it jams a lot. I'll stick with my mak that I've never had a single issue with. Besides, 9x18 is cheaper than .380 anyway.
>>34798530
One minute? I only need one second. Finland. Yeah. Thats where I live. Lel.
>>34798530
Finish sucks
They are a nightmare to completely disassemble
Mags aren't available, not good ones anyway
I prefer a makarov
>>34798709
Both sound like good ideas
Wrong
>>34800978
>conceal carrying a milsurp pistol that can't be replaced as easily as a new gun is a good idea
>carrying a Soviet caliber that has no modern defensive ammo to take advantage of is a good idea
It was a great value when prices were sub $200. I bought mine from Wideners 5 years ago for $260 shipped.
Mine only complaints are:
-slide release spring is not captive and will fall out somehow, with enough use.
-finish is starting to wear at the rear slide and frame, probably due to my de-oiling with brake cleaner.
>>34801410
...there is defensive carry 9x18 just in case you have been living under a rock
>>34798784
No it's not. The makarov is worse in everyway compared to the Cz82.
>>34798530
it was my first handgun actually
>>34798530
Not 21
Already have two Makarovs, two Glocks and a Sig.
>>34801642
underage git out
>>34801410
Cz-83s only went out of production a few years ago
>>34801410
Oh and the guns come in .380 as well.
>>34801568
On paper. The CZ has much better sights and ambitious controls. That's about it. New make sights aren't hard to find, double stacks exist, it's not a shit show on the inside like the cz, and the CZs internals are a shitshow. It's just like the TT-33 vs the Vz52. They just wanted to have their own design
i think one of the arguments against the cz for CC (calibers aside) is the grip. its a small gun but the double stack mags make the grip kind of large, to the same size as a medium sized pistol. grip size is important for concealment, in whcih case you might as well carry a glock 19 for example (in before neckbeards yell at me for suggesting glock 19 for cc, it was just an example).