OH FUCK I DROPPED MY GUN QUICK CATCH IT /k/

Sig will never recover from this

>>34793934
>trigger turns into a fucking spring out of a roadrunner episode when you drop the gun
nice

>me when mommy asks me to judge her new bathing suits

How do you not make a modern gun drop safe holy shit

Wait, call me a brainlet, but did Sig actually fail dropfire tests or is this from some obscure youtube channel?

>>34793963
No there are multiple reports from varying sources of p320s going off when dropped

>>34793963
>>34793952
but it is drop safe... the tests only called for the gun to be able to land on the ground in 2 different angles, well the angle they found it firing in was one that isnt tested for, and if you watch the video they say its a very specific weight of the trigger that is causing it, when they used a lighter trigger it stopped doing it.

if the test only calls for angles A and B to be drop safe but not C, guess what you not going to test for C because you dont need too.

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Don't they already have a solution to this?

>>34793986
>if the test only calls for angles A and B to be drop safe but not C, guess what you not going to test for C because you dont need too.
well then i'm never buying a sig gun ever

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>>34793986
>it is drop safe
>as long as you control the angle at which you drop it

Great job, Sig.

>>34793986
>our gun is drop safe, but only if you drop it in a specific way

>>34793963

Basically they didn't "fail the drop test" because the test they went by was pretty specific. It involved only dropping it on it's side or straight along the the bore axis so muzzle down basically.

When people first caught wind of it failing some drop tests people went ape shit. Lots of Glock fags were all "PFFTT OMFG SEE IT SUCKS" and lots of fags that bought it were like "Pfft no you stupid you don't know what you're talking about because of these reasons, it's just a bad rumor" Some police agency stopped letting their cops carry it but quickly went back a few days later. Sig was all "no see it's drop safe you were just reading an older manual police agency" because the older manual had a warning about not to drop the gun because it might go off.


Well a company that sells guns actually tested it out on a few guns, dropped them every which way and discovered that yeah they do go off when you drop them if they land as they do in the video. They also discovered that swapping out the trigger for a lighter one resolved the issue mostly. They think its the momentum of the heavier trigger is related to the problem.


I really don't care personally. But what I do enjoy are the hoards of people that jumped on the P320 bandwagon just because it was adopted by the military and acting like it's the best fucking gun on the planet and seeing them get all defensive about it now. It's pretty funny.

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This leaves me hopeful that the Glock 23 MHS will get lots of contracts and then released onto the civilian market.

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>>34794028
And the 19.

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>>34793986
>REEEEE OF COURSE IT'S DROP SAFE, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DROP THE GUN LIKE THAT

>>34793986
The guy on the video states that it might not even be the actual source of the problem and that it can be attributed to some other design flaw. It could be multiple issues across many of their guns too, since he didnt just test one frame

>>34794039
>>34794008
>>34794005
>>34793996
t. glockfag

>>34794052
Not an argument.
Plus I don't even own a pistol right now.

>>34794033
Uh I want one but that 17 grip on 19 slide is uuugly I wood chop it

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>>34794070
I assume they would eventually offer the ambi slide catch, thumb safety and fingergroove-less grip on all of their standard models.

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>Glock is an ugly, soulless, jamming piece of shit with an autistic fanbase
>SIG isn't even fucking drop safe and fans defend it as being drop safe since it doesn't fire if you drop it specifically

Looks like 1911 is the way to go

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>>34794052

>>34794084
>*jams*

>>34793985
Name them

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>>34794084

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>>34794089
Not as frequently as the Glock which can be made to jam 100% of the time by holding it like any pistol that isn't a Glock.

>>34794033
That gun is trash and flat safety looks like it was added by stabbing it randomly onto the gun

Thank God Glock lost

>>34794091
Just google it
None of this is hard to find and >>34791915 exists as well

>>34794101
At least it doesnt kill me if I drop it

>>34794098
We really need country flags on /k/. I can't tell if you are just trying to get a rise out of me by trolling while LARPing as an idiot, or if you honestly don't know because you come from a country where you have no hope of ever being able to handle or shoot one and you just believe what you read on /k/.

You have to REALLY screw up your grip in order to limpwrist a Glock. Most people are unable to cause a limpwrist malfunction, even when they try. This only comes into play for children, whose hands are simply too small to hold the gun properly, and women, whose hands are big enough, but whose brains are ill equipped to follow instructions on how to grip the gun.

>>34794091
SERIOUSLY, M8?

>>>
>Ctrl + F "Sig"

>>34794129
>>>
The link was supposed to be to the /k/ catalog, but apparently 4chan doesn't allow links to the catalog to post.

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>>34794124
I'm American.
Glocks are just fucking gay plastic Austrian pieces of shit. I've seen Youtube videos where people wont even limp wrist to an extreme degree and those pieces of shit will jam like Bone Maman.
I haven't shot one because they're horrible and I like my hands connected to my wrists.

>>34794145
>i think their gay
>ive never shot one
Are you also noguns too?

>>34794158
Which answer would make you more upset?

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>>34794028
>lets add a manual safety and make it more ugly

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>>34794145
>just fucking gay plastic
>I've seen Youtube videos
>I haven't shot one

Like clockwork.

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>>34794191
>Look at this buffoon, he retains all ten fingers! Surely he is not knowledgeable in this subject if he is unwilling to risk his digits on it!
t. You

By the way how to finger prosthetics work, Glockboy? I imagine they'd be kinda cool looking.

>>34794202
>he still believes the glocknade meme
Even the FBI doesn't believe the meme anymore, and they're the ones who started it!

>>34794214
I'm sorry, speak up, your plasticware grenade was exploding and drowned out your voice

>>34794202
>le glocknade meme xD
>posts a collage of handloader induced kbs

That bait was already low energy back in 2001.

>>34794225
>back in 2001
When you were sucking on your Mama's teet, Glockbaby?
>Handgun isn't drop safe from specific angle
>That means it isn't drop safe
>Handgun explodes when fed specific rounds
>THE HANDGUN DOESN"T EXPLODE NUH UH PERFECTION IT IS

>>34794084
Rugers are ugly as fuck, no exceptions.

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>>34794202
Ruger more like Reddit.

Good luck keeping your hands if you're shooting one of these.

>>34793934
>Current Year
>not having trigger safety
lol are those niggers real

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>>34794239
>handgun is "drop safe" except when you don't drop it in a specified way and it goes off
>ITS DROP SAFE GUISE NO WORRIES

>handgun functions normally until bubba double charges a case and creates a 50,000 PSI .45 ACP
>OMG ITS A HAND GRENADE

I'll take false equivalency for 1000, Alex.
And people say glock fanboys are annoying.

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>>34794313
That's retarded too, but SIG fanboys never claimed Glocknade, I am 1911 master race gazing down upon the failure of my descendants and poking shit at either of them whenever I get the chance. Glockboys just happen to be more vocal and whiny. And stupid.

Perhaps if you KNEEL and BEG the KING of military sidearms for FORGIVENESS, I will grant you PARDON for your insolence!

My forgiveness is as big as my all mighty round, but my wrath shares it's STOPPING POWER!

>>34794066
t. child

but dont glawks not shoot if you hold them wrong? when will we return to the reliability and nobility of smooth bore muskets?

>>34793963
Drop "safety" """protocol""" doesn't include falling barrel up on hard (concrete/asphalt) surface. Really maeks you think.

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>gun is drop safe unless you drop at the angle where it's most likely to hit you if it goes off

>>34793963
the main thing is the trigger, the modern firing pin block which is supposed to stop the firing pin from moving forward unless it's disengaged by the trigger pull.
Thing is, when the sig is dropped, you can plainly see the trigger bouncing back, so the gun pretty much pulls the trigger through sheer physics.

>>34793986
don't the official drop tests also call for a rubber mat instead of hard concrete?

>>34794028
>manual safety
>glock
there are other manual safety guns out there, in all shape size and material, why the fuck does everyone want one on the glock?

>>34793986
Thanks Sig next time I will drop myself on the ground if I happen to drop the gun.

>>34794177
both answers would be pretty pathetic considering your posts

>>34794513
contract requirement
Glock sold out their design philosophy for a quick cash c

>>34794527
no, I was referring to why people are so hungry for a glock with manual safety

>>34794561
Fudds.

>>34794561
Because end users don't understand good design

>>34794084
>jams
>shoots you in the leg if you brush the hammer
>shoots you in the foot when you drop it
bravo, john browning

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>>34794966
>shoots you in the leg if you brush the hammer
No?

>>34794561
Trigger safeties are fucking stupid.

>>34795176
>*sound of accidentally discharged gun hitting the pavement*

>>34794561
Because some people are so fucking stupid that if they draw from a holster without their handgun being on safe, they'll blow a fucking hole in their leg.

>not only did it fire, it didn't cycle

>>34795366

It's obviously a blank, genius.

>>34795297
guns don't kill people, the government does

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It's a feature.
>Get killed by muzzie
>Drop sidearm as lifeless body hits the sand
>Gun goes off and kills muzzie.

You win even if you lose

>>34795376
>sigs can't cycle blanks
Lmao

>>34795376
>>34795474
It was primed only cartridge. No powder.

>>34793934
>sig perfection

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>to hell and back reliability
All this damage control!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>34795625

Source? I reload and have done this a couple of times, but it looked nothing like the muzzle flashes in the video. Did they use magnum primers?

>>34793934
SIGFAGS BTFO
I
G
F
A
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B
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F
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How will Sig ever recover?

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>>34794084
lmao
fuck out of here nigga

>>34793934
How have none of you fuckers in this thread noticed that the slide doesn't move? Wtf kind of devil magick is that?

>>34795667
>How have none of you fuckers in this thread noticed that the slide doesn't move?

Apparently most of the people in the thread are not braindead enough to assume someone would actually drop test guns with a live round in the chamber.

>>34795656
>How will Sig ever recover?

By issuing a recall and fixing the issue? How does any gigantic corporation recover from a recall and redesign?

>>34794028
If they just took out the stupid finger grooves on the regular Glocks I wouldn't even consider this stupid thing.

>>34795647
Yeah, there's no way a pistol primer would produce a muzzle flash like that. Those loads definitely have powder in them. I don't understand why the slide isn't recoiling at least a little bit.

>>34795677
A pistol primer will NOT produce a flash like that.

>>34795689
>>34795698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZNyWDDgP-w
ok

This Sigdrop stuff is the BEST thing that has happened since the mud tests.

>Karl and Ian will now start doing drop tests
>the rest of the Youtube crowd will follow
>even more butthurt will emerge
Lovely

>>34795689
>I don't understand why the slide isn't recoiling at least a little bit.

Blanks don't do that in handguns.
We get full power Fiocchi blanks for our EVOs with blank adapters. A couple of times I tried them out in a SP01 Phantom for shits, and it didn't move the slide at all, nor did it have anything you could call recoil. It basically felt like a capgun.

>>34795698

Neither will a live round, since >95% of the powder will burn behind the projectile. This is a blank.

>>34795689
>I don't understand why the slide isn't recoiling at least a little bit.
All of the energy is going into the turning in the air action of the gun. Imagine that it is the most limpy wrist malfunction imaginable. There's almost no resistance to the reaction against the cartridge's action so the slide doesn't move much if at all.

>>34795474
most guns can't without adapters
source: reenactor

>>34795647
It is somewhere on social media of testers.

>>34794052
>t. glockfag
Well if you consider glocks are safest ones, sure

>>34794028
Is glock 19 that bigger than 23?
Why would they make it smaller that much?

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Fucking glockfags, you win this round...

>>34793934
so how long until sig issues a recall to replace the trigger with a safety trigger

>>34794346
*its

>>34793989

But do they have a solution to the thousands of man hours they're about to lose when they recall these items, not to mention shipping and parts costs? Wooo boy, if you own Sig stock I sure hope you sold it.

>>34793934
it's ok, I bought a glock

>>34796721

Give it a couple weeks. Omaha Outdoors (or whatever they're called), already formally informed Sig of their discovery, and released it to the public. I wonder how long Sig has known about this, though. They had that little warning in their P320 manual saying the gun could fire if dropped. Was that warning always there, or did they sneak it in after they made this discovery?

Either way, they have to start moving I would think. It's only a matter of time before someone has an accident or an "accident" and tries to sue the shit out of Sig.

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>>34794091

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>>34794098
>9mm below airsoft

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>>34796884
>fully holstered in a fucking duty holster that prevents trigger movement
>still went off
>actually hit a cop

Pure, unadulterated savagery.
I didn't think it was even possible to fuck up this bad when everyone and their mom already makes perfectly drop safe polymer wonder nines.
But hey, at least you get a better stock trigger, right?

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>>34796884
>with the round protruding from his leg

>>34793986
Yet that's the absolute worst angle for it to go off.

Why isn't the slide cycling?

>>34794519
Not anon but I've fired a couple glocks. Out of the 4 I've used one that gave jams pretty often, another jammed every 40 rounds or so. Maybe it was those specific ones as the others never jammed on me but still it was a shit experience.

>>34797003
Probably blanks, Id imagine they wouldnt want holes in their ceiling.

SQUISHY SQUISHY

>>34794186
Thats an army requirement because some soldiers are to stupid and end up ND'ing all over the he place.

>>34793986
So hope you drop it/falls st the right angle? Fucking hell

>>34793934
Enlisted retards in the army are going to be handling these weapons. That's truly terrifying and I feel afraid for anyone on the firing line when it's time for qualifications.

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>>34794527
Wouldn't be the first time, way back when Glock first started getting LEO contracts they made a model 17 with a manual safety for Tasmanian police. They dropped it pretty soon afterwards once the stralians realized it wasn't necessary.

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>>34797751

But that's the hilarious part!

>be so autistic about safety that companies have to slapdash a manual safety on their guns to be even allowed to compete
>end up picking the gun that is a literal death trap

How could they fuck up this bad?

inb4 glock publishes a bunch of videos of them dropping their guns and nothing happening.

>>34797884

Honestly, who wouldn't jump at the chance to capitalize on such a breath-taking fuckup on their competitor's side?

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>>34797910
I'm hoping that Hi-Point releases a bunch of drop tests too for maximum schadenfreude.

>>34794028
>>34794033

God that tan-and-black controls scheme is ugly, and I actually don't think normal glocks are as bad looking as people say (albeit a bit boring). Just go stock black ffs, or FDE and black top. Something to not look like it's a children's toy.

I maintain the Beretta was the logical follow-up to the original contract and would save on both armorer training, spare parts, and training time. Just get a compact one if women and small-hands men have so many issues with the full-size one.

>>34797884
wasn't one of their original pitches that their guns were 100% drop safe, and they proceeded to drop their guns from helicopters and stuff?

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The military should have selected the FN 509.

Sucks for our soldiers.

>>34793934

so it doesn't have a safe action style trigger? and if it does, is it so light that it by passes it anyways on this particular angle of drop?

Id be curious to see if glocks and and the smiths do the same thing.

>>34793934

and why isn't the gun cycling?

>>34798165
>striker fired meme
Enjoy either a dog shit trigger or no drop safety

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>dropping a gun pulls the trigger due to inertia
Well I'll be.
If only there was a sort of safety measure that would lock the trigger from moving.

>>34798269
>lol I'll just load a live round for a drop test
Did your fucking mother drop test you as an infant?

>>34797839
kek

>>34798165
no they should've just never had this retarded competition and just bought a bunch of Glock 17's with the money from the competition like was memed about before

>>34798269

Nothing to recoil against. Extreme form of "limp wristing".

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>>34798323

Not the problem.
If you actually paid attention, you'd see the travel due to inertia is far too short to be the cause of the gun going off.

>>34798376
Just going by the video in the OP, the trigger moved back like 4-5mm. Surely it would go off by then?

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>>34796884
>goes off in a fucking holster designed to prevent NDs
>Ha ha we don't need those stupid trigger safeties like the GLAWKNADES mirite?

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pixels speak the truth

>>34798442

No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvOUIDoa2PM

>>34798348

if your going for max shock value, which you should for this, why not live? It isn't like that is a plugged blank gun is it? And a blank gun with a wad is still deadly. Do you own one? Why are you mad?

>>34798366

On the first drop the slide seems to hit the floor, same with the black gun but not as noticable I would think there would be more slide movement.

>Want to do a school shooting
>Attach reaction balls to sig
>Throw into room
NO SURVIVORS

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>>34793934
It'll be ok, the US already knows how to deal with pistols that go off when dropped.

>>34798492
Its not max shock value it's so people have a visual indication that the gun went off. Answer me, you fucking idiot why the fuck would anyone put live ammo in a drop test gun?

>>34798521

to see if the gun goes off? whats with all the sparks and smoke out of the barrel then?

Did someone touch you with a sig or something?

>>34798531
Its a blank or a primer only round, why are you so fucking set on it either being a live round or that it should have been one?

>>34798531
>whats with all the sparks and smoke out of the barrel then?

I think you might be legitimately brain damaged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Oz6krEH_I

>>34798558

why are you so mad your gun goes off if you drop it?

>>34798560

why wouldn't they just make the drop automated with a tripod instead of just standing around it?

>>34793934
Oh wow, that is the version with the manual safety, and the safety is engaged, and the slide is locked, it's not even cycling upon discharging. That's amazingly bad. This is Taurus semi-auto levels of goofery.

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FRESH OFF THE MEME PRESS CATCH IT QUICK

>>34798575
>why wouldn't they just make the drop automated with a tripod instead of just standing around it?

Why make a retarded automated contraption when you can pull the bullet from a round and have the same thing except not dangerous to anyone and not requiring you to choose an environment where shooting the ceiling (or anything else) is not an issue?

>>34798575
I'm not, your autism about it needing to be a live round us setting off my safety autism.

I don't care Sig's retarded chassis system is proven to be fatally flawed, I care you are going to get someone killed or hurt trying to replicate a drop test with a live round like a moron.

>>34798609

a box with a lid and a string would be fine, and if your going to do a drop test I don't see how difficult it could get making it still safe. I'm unfamiliar with how states run their own mandatory drop tests but I would imagine they've got their own procedures.

>>34798622

the only autist is you screeching, I just wondered why the slide didn't move

>>34798671
>WHY DONT SLIDE MOVE
>because it was a blank
>WHY NO USE LIVE ROUND
>because that is unsafe and unduly complicated
>YOU ARE THE AUTISM
I dunno what's sadder, either someone was born this stupid or their mother dropped them to the point they became functionally retarded.

>>34798747
>>34798747


your the only one using cap locks

>>34798490
Mate, look at the OP video, the second guns trigger, the shit bottoms out

>>34798775
And you're the one spacing his posts like a retard without refuting a single point of why anyone in their right mind would put a live round in a drop test they know is going to fail.

>>34798780
it probably is not causing the gun to go off but rather since the striker is decocked the trigger has nothing to hold it forward anymore

>>34798794

you seem to be really upset if your attacking formating friend

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>Daily reminder that the military could have chosen a superior pistol instead

>>34798902
And you must be rather upset if you are attacking a summation of events and still are not able to defend your original point.

>>34798913

I'm just kinda shocked how autistic you are about this, there isn't anything indiciating in the OP how the test was conducted and plenty of people in the thread don't see what is actually being done either. Calm down and step away form the keyboard for a few days mate, your really lashing out. Are you a commiefornia poster and your upset you need to send the DOJ pics of your raifu?

>>34798936
If you read the links provided you can deduce what is the problem, I'm not going to get into a competition of 'no u' but you need to either stop being stupid and learn to think before posting complete nonsense or accept you will be called a dumb ass for it.

>>34798959


what links were provided in the OP. And you are already in that competition, that you so obviously wanted to be in. Are you noguns and you just troll on /k/ to at least think about them? Aussie?

>>34798975
The test is not the problem, I agree with the results of the test as there is ample evidence of the results indicating there is a problem with the system making it not drop safe.

I find an issue with you thinking your stupid idea is at all acceptable to have. Do you or do you not think putting a live round in the gun and drop testing it knowing full well it will go off is a smart idea?

>>34798911

It's like an indie game developer wanted a gun that is futuristic but still looks familiar, so he asked his autistic furfag DeviantArt friend to change a couple things about the M9.

>>34798936
>>34798959
>>34798975

Come right in >>34797476

>>34799035
You're trying really hard to make a compliment sound like an insult

>>34799068

What's complimenting about trying to make your gun like THE FUTURE IS NOW but only succeeding at making it look like it has Down's?

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>>34793934
TFW sig is the new Taurus

>>34799016

dude just let it go, i'm not even talking about the test I just wanted to know why the slide didn't move at all. I had no idea what the conditions of the test were, and there was nothing in the op to indicate what they were. If you aren't sitting on the shitter and literally shitposting in every thread to make the horrible diarrhea feel just a little bit farther away, then you need help. I hope you don't have guns if you are this easy to trigger.

>>34799064

Yeah I was reading through one of those a minute ago. Sounds like the gun passes the commiefornia drop test, but with a little bit extra height it goes off. Really should activate the almonds of everyone in california that has to deal with the "Drop Safe" pistol test all their shit goes through. IE the list is bullshit and doesn't do anything other than squeeze lemons for california's coffers

>>34799081
please leave
the m9a3 is a logical upgrade from the m9a1

>>34799097
>I hope you aren't this easy to trigger
>responded every time frantically damage controlling over his dumbass question and dumbass contrivance of how a live round in there would be a safe or good idea
You aren't the brightest are you?

>>34799143

>frantically responding

really projecting their friendo. just wanted to know why the slide didn't cycle, for all I know it was in a controlled room that was meant for live rounds, just like 10 other people in the thread. I'm glad your noguns.

>>34795420
An ideal Canadian gun

>>34799173
>10 other people as as dumb as I am!
>you are the nogunz!
Cool story

>>34796800
>Not buying more stock when price drops
What are you, a fucking idiot?

>>34799194

10 other people didn't know what was going on in the webm, one person (you) is a nogunz spazzing out for the sake of spazzing out.

>>34794013
>They also discovered that swapping out the trigger for a lighter one resolved the issue mostly. They think its the momentum of the heavier trigger is related to the problem.

Obviously. You can see it clearly in the video - the trigger keeps moving after the frame strikes earth, so it "pulls itself." That's why it has to hit at the exact right angle.

It's the same risk you have with captive inertial firing pins. You can reduce the momentum of the trigger by making it lighter, and if they combine that with a slightly stronger trigger spring (even a half-pound would be overkill) it'd make it completely impossible.

Kudos to the guys who found the problem though, one less issue.

>>34799269
That doesn't explain the one the cop dropped though.

>>34795420
New perk for COD instead of martyrdom? Sig Perfection?

>>34799274
Yes it does. A holster won't entirely immobilize a trigger. Nothing is pulling the trigger, the inertia is what moves the trigger.

>>34799248
No, literally one other person was confused about how a blank works, the rest were about the nature of the blank. Only you were stupid and ignorent of firearms enough to think it might have been a bullet

>>34796800
Sig isn't publicly traded dipshit.

>>34799342

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>>34798366
there, all the anons who were confused about the conditions of the test and gun before you began your sperging. Please step away form the keyboard, for your own sake.

>>34799402
>tagging everyone

Get banned kid

>>34799424

>everyone
>that name
>i report'd u

duuuuuuuuude this isn't healthy

>>34799402
Notice I said the nature of the blank, not whether it was a blank or not. I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit but slandering other people by claiming they are as dumb as you isn't going to get you anywhere

https://youtu.be/hsljmVh-GFQ

>>34799459

I almost feel sorry for you at this point.

>>34799459

JUST STOP POSTING YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER FUCK OFF JESUS CHRIST YOU CANNOT FUCKING STOP.

>>34799509
I'm sure you do, sorry enough to reply to a bunch of people who are unrelated to your point but you want to drag down to your level.

Don't be a cunt all your life, m8.

>>34799531

dude you said one person didn't know what the test conditions were. boom, all those people had the same problem. please stop posting here, you obviously can't handle it and get some help.

>>34799531

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU

>>34798607
Underappreciated post

>>34796721
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/08/breaking-sig-sauer-offers-upgrade-p320-pistols-wake-drop-safety-failures/
"""voluntary upgrades"""

>>34799567
We're talking live vs blank, the blank could either mean a primed case or an actual blank with a powder charge

The original question was 'Why didn't the slide move' and moved on to live rounds in a drop test, of which everyone called your ideas of even starting to consider such a thing even with remote dropping retarded and needlessly complicated. Just like this exchange.

>>34799615

>upgrade

Military is going to be pissed, hopefully we just stick with the m9 and say fuck it for another 30 years

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>>34799615
>no recall
At the very fucking least recall the specific trigger

>>34799632

please stop using 4chan, you can't handle it. I'm sorry you have no guns and this is your only exposure to them, but your seriously need some mental reevaluation in your life. this isn't healthy. If I wasn't suffering from last night's taco bell I wouldn't bother but holy CHRIST you have some issues. please stay nogunz.

>>34799615
does it only affect certain serial numbers?

>>34799632

nigger you just straight retarded

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>>34799674
>he is this mad over being proven wrong
No problem, just don't do it again.

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>>34793986
>but it is drop safe

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>mfw GLAWK Fags, Sig Martydom and 1911 fudd fugs are aruguing over dumbshit
>mfw I carry an XD
Feels good.

>>34799710
>risking your rights just because you're afraid of an itsy bitsy bullet
What a fucking pussy

>>34799692

you seem to be the one responding with such fury to every post friendo

>>34799736
I literally just stated I carry an XD. I also buried 5 sks each with 1500 rounds to their container in the woods behind my house.

>>34799710
Your gun is ugly, you have no respect for the rights of others, grip safety, your gun is fuck-ugly, I can only advocate suicide.

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>>34799634
I was reading in the SIG implosion general that the military ones might already have the upgraded triggers. (((SIG))) and probably decided to send this to the civilian market anyways to avoid spending some shekels on shipping safe guns

>>34794084
>1911
Yes
>Ruger
Nigger what

>>34799779

well this issue is with the weight of the actual trigger right? the part itself weighs enough for inertia to pull upon a high enough drop? are they steel, can they use alum. instead?

also makes me think a grip safety is the only way to circumvent that while using a heavier trigger. how fucked is sig since they used the wrong material?

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>>34799743
You've got a wonderful sense of irony at least.

>>34799811
yet your still posting, smug anime reaction images shit posting even. never go near actual guns, for your own sake and others.

>>34799801
They developed a paddle style safety trigger like the glock during the trials I think, I bet that's what the upgrade is.

The regular triggers are the ones having this issue, the fancy race gun with the lightened trigger didn't have issues in the drop test. The fact that trigger weight has a chance to make it fire means someone fucked up somewhere.
Like what if someone puts grip tape on their trigger or something and even with the new lighter trigger (without a paddle), it goes off?

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>>34799772
(you)

>>34798323
Yeah like a trigger safety

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/k/'s been needing some good bully fodder for a while now. I welcome this.

>>34799843
So from the man who thinks dropping discharging a loaded gun into the ceiling is safe we get name calling and utter butthurt with safety tips on top of it. Again, try to improve and we can all make this journey forward together.

>>34799847

makes me think they started with plastic, and late game someone screamed NO USE METAL and didn't reevaluate. that being said, wouldn't any metal trigger with a short light pull do this at a certain height have this issue regarding inertia?

>>34799811
will you fucking piss off with your autism

>>34799853
It's only fair the the cheesiest pistol in RE4 is also the ugliest. It's punishment.

>>34799900

who said I was a man? making alot of assumptions here buddy, most of which is that you think this is in anyway normal behaviour. thank God you don't have guns.

>>34796947
that's why you don't carry chambered guns. it takes barely a second to chamber a round and it can't go off no matter how you hit it drop it smash it if there is no round in the chamber.

>>34799886
a trigger safety isnt a safety. you have to stop the bolt from moving not the trigger.

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>>34799927
You forgot to order me to step away from the keyboard, I don't think you're trying anymore.

>>34799913
I can't think of any striker guns with metal triggers really. Probably explains that, all the striker fired guns I see have some sort of trigger paddle, or are DA/SA ish type designs like the Walther P99.

>>34799977

Or you could, you know, buy guns that don't go off when dropped.
Then you don't have to resort to retarded ways of racking the slide that have a ~50% chance of introducing a malfunction when you have to use your other hand to do other unimportant shit like physically stopping an assailant from burying a knife in your gut.

>>34800012

dam dude, you have one beat to fuck gun in a nasty room with horrible autistic penmenship. You win man, you totally don't have serious fucking issues and should stay away from guns, people, and the internet since you obviously have a problem with your temper and letting things go. Clean your closet too.

>>34800012

what the fuck did you do to your gun you wasteful nigger

>>34800026
>racking the slide that have a ~50% chance of introducing a malfunction
what kind of crap guns do you shoot? also if you use your other hand to hold off a dud just whack him in the face with the gun until his eyes pop.

>>34793934
*nyoom*

>>34800024

kahr mk9, I think their whole line up. But they have that really long DAO pull, so it wouldn't be an issue unless its pass terminal velocity. A very long take up, pull weight is usually over 6lbs as well.

>>34793934
How about you don't drop the gun?

>>34800012

do I see crackhead fingernails in the corner? and a lever gun with odd switches makes me this this is another Aussie cunt

>>34800068
>one-handed ways of racking the slide are reliable, not convoluted at all and I'll be able to perform them flawlessly when a nigger on PCP jumps me

Good on you. I think I'm gonna carry on carrying one in the chamber. In a gun that doesn't go off when dropped.

>>34800116
and i'm just gonna sidestep or shoulder him conveniently rack the gun and shoot just the same. with almost absolutely zero chance of an accidental discharge.

>>34796115
>glocks safe
Why are glocks responsible for more self inflicted shootings? I'm not talking about suicides. Pull trigger to disassemble. Come on already. I own Glocks, I love them but all this nonsense about safe guns. Guns are not safe. They serve one propose. We all know what that is. You cannot add enough features to any firearm to make them "Safe". An Idiot will always find a way to circumvent these features. No firearm will be Safe as long as Idiots roam the Earth.

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>>34800097
>Glocks blow up when you accidentally the whole jar of AA#5 into a .40 case
>HAHAHA OMG HAND GRENADE
>Sigs go off when you drop them on the back of the slide at waist height
>just don't drop the gun familia :DDD

Thank you, merchant, you truly are my greatest ally!
You wouldn't have any more of these rebranded Chinese optics for me, would you? They were simply a steal at $1599!

>>34800182

not to be mean, but they are issued to morons (cops) and are one of the most issued guns to them. also yeah pull the trigger to do anything but shoot is retarded.

one thing that triggers me about mag disconnect safeties when your disassembly requires a trigger pull.

>>34793986
I'm pretty convinced Sig has actual payed Shills on this board right now doing serious damage control.
Shame I really wanted one

>>34800063
Kind of disappointed you didn't say it was airsoft
>>34800064
Picked it up cheap at a pawnshop and am going to refinish it, was the horrid years when they switched over to cast receivers, furniture will get a couple coats of BLO after sanding and the rest will be rust blues. Heard it won't take 'regular' blueing but haven't a clue if they mean hot bluing, rust bluing or any oxide finish period. Will be fun.
>>34800182
There's hardware problems and software problems, Sig has a hardware one and as such has a responsibility to fix it instead of offering an 'optional upgrade'.

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>>34793934

>>34800306

fuck off you aussie cunt no one believes you

>>34800306

Oh i'm sure you know everything about bluing too. 30 mins after you post your pathetic rifle you still can't keep yourself from posting. I'm glad I'm an ocean away from you and your one shit gun you probably bought off the corner for a beej.

>>34800213
>rebranded Chinese optics
What Chinese scope is siting incide? Asking fro a friend.

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>>34794145
>Glocks are just fucking gay plastic Austrian pieces of shit.
I've seen Youtube videos
>I haven't shot one

>>34800306

post more pics of your shitty gun you faggot

>>34796321
>Is glock 19 that bigger than 23?
The 19 and 23 are literally the same size.

>>34793934

OH SHIT ILL CAT-

>>34796800
>But do they have a solution to the thousands of man hours they're about to lose when they recall these items
Delaying the P938 HD again.

Seriously, though. They will probably have Sig armorers do the repair. All they need to do is drop in a trigger with a safety on it.

>>34800306

so it is airsoft

>>34800214
>they are issued to morons
You nailed it right on the head. Not only issued to morons, morons buy them also. I am a NRA instructor. The amount of morons that cannot comprehend firearms safety is astounding. In my State you have to take a mandatory NRA certified safety class before the State will issue you a gun licence. This is where I come in. No matter how safe you make something someone will find a way to make it unsafe. There are people that take my class I hope fail it. As a second Amendment supporter I pains me to even want someone not to enjoy their right. These people are future gun statistics and this fuels the gun grabbers. I grew up in gun culture. The Old timers that taught me were extremely competent. This new generation raised on video games. This was their first contact with guns. The cancer games have created around guns is frightful. It makes fuddlore less annoying.

>>34794966
>defends SIG that isn't drop safe
>attacks 1911 without understanding it's safeties.

you must be new here.

as the owner of a drop safe CZ82

i don't get what sig was thinking

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>>34794033
Christ, those look so fucking ugly. What was Glock thinking?

>>34800504
>CZ82
>drop safe

You poor fool.

>sig
not even once.

also enjoy fags arguing over their shitty glocks and sigs while i sit back and enjoy my HK

>>34800475

if it's kids with glocks, then yeah I bet shit gets dumb. it isn't vidya kids I've seen tho, mostly the stories about nypd needing super heavy triggers when transitioning off revolvers, and well I love my cops etc but holy shit they hire some retards. like that coyboyhat wearing idiot *I JUST SHOT MYSELF* retarded.


worse one I've heard was some retard marine in his thirties with a drinking problem n'ding twice when trying to show my nohandgunz brother the works.

every oopsie I've seen with a glock has been attributed to user error.

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>>34799767
>he doesn't know what Springfield did

>>34800529

didn't they explode? and that weird ass slide push saftey... why. just why.

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>>34800352
Oh... that's really good

>>34799977
It also takes barely a second to get ventilated by some moron bad guy.

>>34797926
Why is there a lumpy pringles man on this?

>>34800601
I'm glad somebody gets it.

>>34799767
>th- the habbening xxddddd

Kill yourself.

>>34800382
They use Chinese lenses from what I understand.

>>34800375
>says the noguns
Keep grasping there bud, I'm sure people care.

>>34800622
>omg u understood my ebin Greek mythology cultural reference, yuo are of genius xD

And here I was, thinking all the memes about American education are just memes.

>>34800399
Their sizes in
>>34794028
and
>>34794033
are different tho

>>34800671
Other way around, I was expecting more people to get it.

>something something America
OBSESSED

>>34799977
>that's why you don't carry chambered guns

Go be a normie fudd casual somewhere else

>>34800641

I said you were an aussie cunt and an ocean away with one shit gun that you purchased with a sexual favor. Again, this is about that anger and inability to let go of things issue we were trying to talk to you about. but if you really feel the need to, go ahead and reply again. post another pic of your singular gun that looks beat to fuck with an aluminum receiver. Go ahead, we all know you can't stop yourself.

>>34800641

nigger you understand nothing go fuck your airsoft bullshit in yo nasty ass closet and fuck off

>>34799707
>dat filename
>dat photo
kek'd. thanks anon

>>34796393
at least if we keep it on safe with no rounds in the chamber its safe. glockfags still have to worry about investing in a prosthetic hand.

>>34800543
>HK
>over priced mediocre handguns

Join the party faggot.

>>34800829
So what you're saying is that there are no good guns, right?

>>34799779
can that retard tweet anything without using the words sad, bad, and mad as their own sentences???

>>34800898
It's not even a real tweet, idiot

>>34800898

why would he when it triggers your snowflake ass every time?

>>34800785
>at least if we keep it on safe with no rounds in the chamber its safe

So basically neuter the gun and make it pointless? Wew lad

>>34800844
Nah, mediocre for the price. Plenty of other companies around besides the 3 that are getting shat on in here now.

>>34800898
>Butthurt autist oes on 4chan, can't tell a real tweet form a from a fake one, Sad! Many such cases!

>>34800944
>>34800898
>>34800942

now lets be honest here. I wouldnt have thought twice if someone had told me that was a real tweet of his. He does indeed have the vocabulary of a popsicle stick. All be it one that is still the president.

>>34801021
He uses twitter, 140 character limit remember, many such cases you can't use many fancy words, Sad!

>>34800785
>>34800965
did he also just pull out the Glocknade meme again?

When will that meme die?
>buy glock
>fuck these ammo manufacturers amirite?
>proceed to pick up reloading as a hobby
>fuckingsuckassatit.jpg
>shove your way over stuffed 9mm steroid round in the gun
>gun explodes from the sheer amount of shit you force fed it
>WOW it must be Glocks fault im gonna blame them for it!

>>34800610
murricans and their gun ninja fantasies...

>>34801021
>shill for hill
Such behavior from today's youth.
Sad!

>>34801094
Except there were cases of
>lol.40
Rupturing because of the unsupported chamber. But that happening to .40 users is kind of natural selection.

>>34801021
>Autist on 4chan is proved wrong, says his low IQ isn't his fault. Sad!

>>34801100
nogunz detected.

>>34796860
One of the Dallas cops is sueing sig bc he was shot when a 320 was dropped

>>34799988
trigger safety is definitely good for a drop safety. It'll prevent the trigger / trigger bar from moving back (as long as it's designed properly). Firing pin safety will protect it when falling against the muzzle, trigger safety will protect it when falling against the rear of the slide. Without the trigger safety the trigger and trigger bar could still move which would in turn move the firing pin safety.

>>34801125
I point out the short comings of the guy I voted for and apparently that means I voted for Hillary.

Come on man. You can do better than this.
Im beyond happy we have a popsicle stick for president rather then that spawn of satan known as Hillary.

>>34800721
>aluminum receiver Winchester
>I'm totally not mad from this essay I wrote about not being mad
Oh boy, I eagerly await another nugget of wisdom from the same brilliant man who sees nothing wrong with dropping a gun on a loaded chamber he knows is going to fail.

>>34793934

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBIrQV9PxHg

>>34801021

stay triggered snowflake, maybe Bernie can run again and take your guns then

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>>34801156
I'm just funnin with you, anon.
Geez!
Sad!
No sense of sarcasm!

>>34798607
Wouldn't that just get the plane shot?

>>34801172

wow nigger you really can't help yourself at all. post more pics of your one shit gun, try not to show anymore of your filthy living conditions and please don't shoot up your local taco bell when they ask you what sauce you want.

>>34801191
See the comment I already made.
>>34801156

Did I miss the "swear my allegiance to never say anything bad about the president" class? I definitely voted for the guy.

>>34801216

no, dropped from high enough the plane should be out of the way when it's payload detonates. or put little parachutes on each gun.

someone change the pic to include small parachutes.

>>34801216
Thats where the 9mm meme shines

>>34794478
>using reddit memes

Stop posting, and start aging.

>>34801100
found the cunt who doesn't know what a real attack looks like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVPiic-ELoM

>>34801232

Platinum mad, try not to offer anymore retarded ideas and maybe people won't call you out for it.

>>34794052
Your gun fails drop tests. Your level of brand loyalty is fucking retarded.

>>34794098
44 mag under 556 ?

>>34793934
Its like a bad 80s mov- >>34801174

Any one got the info for the recall?

>>34801500
No recall, only a free 'upgrade' >>34799615

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J U S T
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>>34801512
Ok, looks like there won't be more info till next Monday.

>>34794145
>Judging this harshly
>Never actually used one
I'm no fanboy but let's fuck off with the memes please. They are okay guns. Not great but not all that bad either.

>>34801525
Huh, thought it had to do with the inertia of the metal trigger, what the fuck could be wrong with it then? The sear?

>>34801542
It's getting viral so I expect a full on recall by the weekend

>>34801315


>still posting

sad you got called out being a lil nigger with beat to shit gun out in the outback, let's see the rest of your collection abbo

>>34801525
>gun fires when dropped
>IT'S THE TRIGGER INERTIA, WOULDN'T HAPPEN WITH THE MANUAL SAFETY MODEL, JUST REPLACE THE TRIGGERS AND IT'S FINE SENPAI
>gun fires when hit with a hammer
>???

Genuinely curious about the way they'll try to rationalize this away now.

>>34794202

The amount of autism in this post.

>>34801630
>called out
I have a shitty gun I won't deny that but a gun is a gun, nigger. You really need to work on your anger issues. Step away from the keyboard for a bit and breathe Maybe I'll see you around when you are less mad :)

>>34801525
>>34801591
>>34801721
That doesn't contradict it having to do with the trigger. The only force applied when dropping the gun is (relative to the frame of the gun which is of course all accelerating due to gravity relative to the ground) the force of it hitting the ground.
It isn't the falling that makes the gun go off, it's hitting the ground. From the gun's point of view hitting it with a hammer is the same as hitting the ground. It could still be trigger inertia since the hammer (and the ground) simply apply force to the frame of the gun, moving it relative to the trigger.

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>>34797926
>2217
>After 200 years of constant court room combat, bribery showdowns, and fanboy suicide bombings there is still no end in sight to the SigSauer-Beretta-Glock circlejerk.
>2218, the USA Space Corps selects the Hi-Point C999 as their service pistol after passing orbital drop tests, lunar dust tests, and Jovian ice tests.
>Hi-Point C999 still uses a single stack magazine.

>>34801500
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/08/sig-sauer-acknowledges-p320-trigger-issues-with-30deg-drop-m17-mhs-unaffected-announces-voluntary-p320-upgrade/

Details on how to get the new trigger come out Monday

>>34801834

The way the guy's holding it makes it virtually impossible for trigger inertia alone to be at fault.

>>34801876
He's not exactly preventing the whole thing from moving. The action is still accelerating relative to the trigger because of the force of the hammer. I don't think loosely holding the grip is preventing acceleration of the trigger relative to the action.
Of course I'm not entirely convinced that the issue is with the trigger in the first place. But this test doesn't rule that out.

>>34801759

>a gun

now admit you bought it illegally with sexual favors and don't shoot up the taco bell when they ask you if you want fire sauce.

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>>34795667
I think it's because in this test they loaded it with a blank round. Which explains why it goes off but doesn't have enough energy to cycle.

>>34802166
>called me a dog fanboy
>he just couldn't read
>called me a noguns
>I have a gun
>said Winchester have aluminum receivers
>I dont even know what to make of that

I don't even care about the name calling, you can't admit putting a live round in a gun and dropping it, expecting it to fail is retarded.

You'll reply to this because you don't know how to do anything but damage control at this point like you have been doing for 5 hours. But you wouldn't have made a single coherent point towards the former. Because you messed up, and you know it.

so, shitposting aside, which is impossible for fanboys but possible for reasonable people, what are the LEGAL ramifications for this, knowing these are out in the world. say someone you know uses one, are you obligated to tell them? are you allowed to refuse to work with them or stay away from them?

WHAT if he drops it and your RIGHT there. do you go for the catch? would liability move to you if you tried but fumbled it? say you touched it on the way down and it went off and hit a cop down the road in the eyeball, whose going to get the blame? what if upon seeing him draw it out i scream and dive to the floor?

>>34803475

I know it's a long shot but since it used commiefornias test for a safe pistol the state gets sued for billions and has to burn to the ground.

or the public realizes the *safe pistol list* has nothing to do with safety.

>>34803475
In the manual they say to carry without one in the chamber to cover their ass so there may not be legal repercussions.

>>34802585

you seem to be upset, are you STILL posting? and your gun does look like trash, I wouldn't be shocked if you don't even have a buttstock for it. First guy is right, don't get into guns and dedicate your autism to something easier for you, like toy trains.

>>34802429

be prepared to get hit with a truck load autism.

>>34803594
that is full on fucking retarded. does any other manual say that? what's the point of having a gun then?

>>34803594
right, but its not like when you chamber around it permanently sticks to your hand forever until its empty

>>34803662
Yeah but it's the same in any other gun that's not perfectly drop safe. An old 1911 you carry with the safety on, an old single action revolver with no drop safety you carry uncocked, etc.

>>34803687
right, so if i dive out of the way of someone carrying one of these, instead of trying to catch it, and someone dies...

>>34803709

I was taught never to try and save a gun from being dropped. If it's falling, try and fall first.

>>34803598
>don't get into guns unless you have a bunch of stupid ideas and are willing to defend your autism to the death
From the sig fanboys I can understand this but still am not certain what that has to do with dropping an unsafe gun on the ground but you do you, friend.