Best SHTF gun

>>34785401
>common gun
A common gun like an AK variant or AR-15 would be great, just in case your gun gets fubar'd. It would be easy as all hell to scavenge more parts, or another gun if it's that bad.
>durable

>>34785412
Personally, I think the best guns to have in a SHTF situation would be:
>AR-7
Small .22lr which airplane pilots used at some point. Can fit into bug out bags.
>12 gauge shotgun
Pump or semi auto for hunting game/close quarters.
>.45 or 9mm pistol, suppressed
>AK variant
>AR-10 or 15

>>34785401
AR-10 pattern rifles.

Common parts, common round, excellent at all ranges and easy on the shoulder.

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>>34785401
Single-shot 12 gauge with a couple different barrel Inserts. You'll never run out of ammo and, if you get a decent one, it'll never break on you. If it does, simple mechanism, easy fix. With a good variety of inserts, you could hunt just about anything. If you keep your head down and run more than you fight, one shot should be enough to keep you alive.

>>34785559
No way you could fight with a single shot 12gauge though. You'd be fucked the first time someone attacked you more then 100 yards away

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but can't you do the same with a double barrel?

It depends on your environment you fucking retard holy fuck

>>34785559
You can't fight for shit with a single barrel. If there were, say, more than two people with guns, you'd be fucked. Especially if one was far away and more were near.

How many times do I have to say this, there is no one size fits all SHTF.

What are we talking? Complete dissolution of society? Reds invade? Riots? Military coup? Lost power for a month?

It all fucking depends you gosh darn diddly derps.

>>34785401
best SHTF gun imho is either one of those three :
-a concealable yet powerful handgun to navigate in crowded places like you were unarmed and ammo data load and dies.

-a decent shotgun, 12ga is the easiest caliber to reload, all you need are primer powder and whatev bulets you want. no specialised .224 or 308 or .311 bullet to find.
you can even do BP and homemade gunpowder for it since it's low pressure)
could be pump,lever SxS O/u or bolt, no auto cause they can't cycle low power loads.

-a scoped 308 rifle for long range (i said 308 because it's the most common here, but anything readily available that pushes 150gr @ 2300fps and of course bullets ammo and dies.

so you got concealment for sub 50m engagement

12ga ranging from birdshot to brenneke rifle slug for 30 130m

scoped full power bolt action past 100m up to 1200m if you gud

or just an medium caliber such as AR AK but be sure you'll still can reload it after cartridge compagny vanished... of and even shitty ak can't cycle gud with shitty ammp..


RELOAD !

>>34785424
What about an FAL or G3?

>>34785584
Kids these days really gotta lay off the video games and movies

>>34785770
Common, but not as common. More complicated to take apart (comparatively), and not as modular as the AR platform. If you don't have an AR in 308, I'd just say that instead of going to another 308, you just go to a 556 platform. When SHTF there's no promise that you'll have any backup parts.

>>34785849
are you telling me I am wrong here? Do you really think a man with a single shot, shotgun will be able to actually fight with it? He will get overwhelmed instantly.
Provided they are both the same skill levels, Even a bolt gun would be overwhelmed almost instantly. A 1 shot shotgun is even worse then that.

>>34785401
Realistically speaking, you won't be using your gun all that often in a SHTF scenario, nor would you want to. You're not going to be murdering hordes of people, and actually hunting with a firearm is only going to give away your position. I doubt you would encounter too many hostile civilians anyways.

Honestly I think a compact compound or recurve bow would be better than a rifle. You can fashion your own ammunition, and decent arrows are typically reusable. And in a SHTF scenario, nobody will have access to decent medical care, so any wound from any caliber is bound to be deadly, or at least incredibly incapacitating. A 10/22 takedown or a PDW AR would be preferable due to ammo availability and you can fit it in a backpack. Or other survival .22lr rifles. If you're not in the US then you'd probably want something something in 7.62x39, like a SBR AK with folding stock. The rifles for those rare occasions where you might find something or someone hostile and you need the firepower. If you're stealthy about where you go, you should be able to avoid ambush and prep yourself accordingly for the engagement.

I guess it all really depends on the type of SHTF scenario too, but I think for the most common ones the above would be preferable.

>>34786075
That's actually a really good point. I think the best combination with a crossbow would be an SBR of some sort, with a higher caliber pistol like .44, .45, or .357. Or instead of an SBR an MP5K

This is a retarded thread filled with noguns children

I don't even like them, but any answer other than ar15 is wrong. Followed by Mossberg 500 for taking all sizes of game.

>>34785401
>An AR-15 doesn't fit that criteria, though.
Yes, it does.

>>34785401
Whatever gun with good reviews chambered in the most common ammunition in your zone. For example, here in Spain like 90% of civilian guns are 12ga shotguns, it wouldn't make sense to buy a rifle for SHTF situation here, even if rifles are better weapons overall.

>>34786486
>/k/ is noguns
No shit, none of us actually own anything.

Grab SKS. . .

>>34785424

>AR 10
>common

Think again. Try adding 5 to the number. I've seen less than 10 in the wild

>>34786486
>muh ar15 meme
Oh no, friendo, you're chinkanese "assault" weapon breaks because of shitty craftsmanship. At least you have a cool-looking plastic club now.

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>>34786672
im not familiar with AR105. pics?

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>>34785401
The best shtf gun is the gun you own and can take apart barehanded with your eye closed. Doesn't matter if it's an AK or AR, a gun you have no clue how to operate, load, or maintain might as well be an expensive baseball bat when shtf.

>Common Ammo
Any one who owns a gun will have enough ammo to last them at least a month. I ran 200+ rounds through my SKS yesterday and still have 1000+ rounds sitting around for it. Realistically, 500 rds for any semi auto will last you a month or two. You won't be shooting at shit everyday like a videogame. Its 100% self defense, looters, or hunting only. Also, scavenging ammo wouldn't work. Wal Mart would be picked clean by the 99% of the population with your mindset and chimps, Gun stores would be held down by their respective owners and families, dead cops/soldiers would be clean of weapons and most gun owners are probably preppers too so scavenging their ammo is gone too.

>Kill Potential
Criminals don't care about the kill potential of your gun. If you shoot someone with a handgun, AK, or single barrel shotgun they aren't going to think "Hey guys, don't worry, its just .22!" They are going to run. Watch home invasion videos and you'll see it. The first shot that goes out on one in a group signals to the rest of the group that you have a gun. At that point all "raiding parties" "comradeship" and "friendship" goes out the window and it turns into fight or flight even when the attacking party has a gun. Whoever shoots first, even if you don't see them, has the upper hand because they know you're there and you've lost any element of surprise. Think about it this way, if someone shot at you while you were behind cover with a .22, you're not going to poke your head out and see if they're reloading or if they have a small caliber round. You're going to run.

http://suburbansurvivalblog.com/katrina-experiences-an-expereinced-prepper-tells-all/

This is the best shtf story you can learn from.

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>>34785401
Best SHTF gun is a sub2000. you can keep it in your bugout bag in your truck and when shit hits, you just grab your keys and hop in your truck and gtfo.

>>34785401
This whole post is cringe.

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>>34785401

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>>34785422
ar7 sux dude its garbo and a meme bro

>>34785584
Read a fucking book jesus.

>>34785401
>An AR-15 doesn't fit that criteria, though.
[Insert video, you know the one]
Also a double barrel, preferably something with a shorter barrel(around 20 inch) is a very Basically pick your standard STALKER layout but with a common caliber and you will be fine. Gun doesn't matter that much in a shtf situation. You can have as many gats as you want if you have a good safe house. In any shtf(unless the moon is falling) the cities is where self defense is most important. If you live in isolation that you want sustainability so something for hunting and a shit ton of powder, primers, and cases. If you live in a suburb or small town teaming up with your neighbors and form a small militia what for protecting against oppressed youfs. If it's an invasion then that's when you really need to worry about kit.

>>34789709
Actually I don't know the video. I'm a newfag and would like sauce, please

>>34789994
go back to plebbit

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>>34785401
Something light and handy. There is a good chance that real deal STHF will involve moving very long distances. You can't really expect to go overland/stay in the woods for hundreds of miles, so having something you can hide for random check points would be very good. I can imagine Marshall law or a random bandit king setting up on the road not being super into letting a guy in shortshorts and a FAL through with out problems. A big ass earthquake or wild fire is the most realistic senarieo for me in CA, so that means 1 staying still and ignore a mandatory evacuation to gaurd my shit, or leave, but armed, because who knows where they'd expect you to go and wait out a federal response. Walking out in the streets with an AK is going to get you shot by the national gaurd.

Really though, if you need to scavenge ammo and parts, then shit is clearly beyond just what one man can handle. If it's a roof Koreans kinda deal, then it's mostly sharing and helping. One gun shop owner could arm and maintain a dozen guys easy. I think it would be the responsibility of the single guy to handle his own shit untill he group's up and provide skills to justify staying around.

>My choice, but if I found a dope MP5 in a cop car I'd grab that, just for giggles.

>>34785974
I think the point is that in a SHTF situation, the last thing you want to do is fight. When your trying to survive in a hostile area, rule one is GTFO of said area asap, and rule two is don't get spotted. You don't have HP or magic med kits. If you get shot or hurt you die

>>34785754
If you have 2 long guns, what's the point in being uncomfortable ccing a large revolver? Or ccing at all? It'll take longer to draw

any decent 9mm pistol would do the trick for self defense and to have something to fend off while scavanging.

and an ithaca 37, I believe cops here use this model so if I may be lucky to find one

I live in an island where the only predators are humans and wild dogs, and the weather.

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>>34789510

You take that back you son of a whore.

I went to South Africa once, I have family that lives there. First time there my uncle gives me an old beat up AR7 with a wooden stock.

I took that gun deep into the wilderness by myself and had a lot of fun.

Had it in my backpack and when I went to Hotels and slept at night or sketchy areas, I would have it out and ready to use.

Some people might say the 10/22 takedown is better but a 10/22 won't fit in a small civi jansport highschool backpack.

Matter of fact you need a backpack just to carry the 10/22.

And even if you put a folding stock on the takedown, it would barely fit and it would get bumped around in a backpack.

The AR7 when taken down is smaller and all the parts protected and air sealed in the stock.

>>34790533
There's no "best gun." At a minimum, I would want a pistol and a rifle.
The pistol can stay on you at all times, and be concealed. Frankly, a good pistol is probably the most important gun you can have for self defense, because it's the easiest and most likely to keep on you.
However, a long gun is better for virtually everything else.

People have been trying to answer that question since guns were created, and it hasn't happened yet.

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>>34785401
Accept no substitute.

>>34787238
she probably fucks that dog

A bow and arrow made from common native plants/trees. Or a sling made from plant fibers and rocks as a projectile.

If shit truly hit the fan, ammo would run out fast, and you'd have to spend time and risk your life looking for it. You can't make it yourself from common, natural materials. If you make a bow from wood from a tree, and arrows from plants, you have unlimited ammo.

>>34785401
>bash skulls with when you're out of ammo
>preferable

oh ok so this is a dumb shitposting thread

>>34785401
For SHTF I would probably use my M1 Garand and my AR slung over my back as needed.

>m1 can cover larger distance, common round reliable
>AR: Reliable, fairly accurate, common ammo

>>34785401
>it only takes 1-3 bullets to kill someone
they do like 80% damage, depending upon where they hit

>>34790591
new ar7s are shit but yeah i guess if you had an older one or something it would be better i have never heard of the wooden stock ones

>>34790591
Do you still have it? If so I want timestamp