Anyone have either of this? I'm new to pistol caliber carbines

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>>34785308
I have an evo
>right side of ambi safety is ass and hurts your trigger finger
>bretty comefy with a (((brace)))
>get a folding brace, it makes a nice compact package

>>34785387
What version is foldable that's still a brace?

>>34785440
https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sbtevo/
This one for one, I know there's another option or two floating around but I liked this ones aesthetic. Also, this model is available for less than $25

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>>34785308
I have the mpx and I really love it

>>34785528
*$250

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>>34785569
Pre light.

klobberingtime.gif

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>>34785569
>>34785613
I like you

>>34785308
Why would I want those when the UZI carbine is a thing?

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>>34785757
>giving money to israel

>>34785757
The Uzi always seemed to ghetto for me personally.

>>34785569
Does it eat anything you give it? I think I heard it had problems but then again it may have been the mcx.

>>34785796
Mine eats up everything.... zero malfunctions so far.

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>>34785753
Ha ha. Here it is without the can and with k handguard.

>>34785796
Never had any kind of malfunction with anything Iv put through it. 115gr 124gr 147gr. Critical defense, hst, plus tons of cheap stuff. Never had a hiccup.

>>34785569
Does it eat anything you give it? I think I heard it had problems but then again it may have been the mcx.

>>34785872
Yes. Everything

I have both. I jave sbred the eco waitibg stamp on the mpx

I shoot the evo more, but that is due to sbr.

>>34788388
I have the mpx. But I want the evo. Cuz I want every gun.

>>34788499
Me too. I have the cz and mpx. I am looking at a mp5.

>>34788509
I really want to get some of b&t offerings, a micro uzi, a mac, and a 9mm AR. Just to have a nice 9mm collection

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>>34788536
I like you.

>>34785780
UZI carbines are import b& and buying clones doesn't count cause those aren't made by Israeli companies.

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Are 9mm ARs worth a damn?

>>34788556
I love the calico. The one i had was a pita. And i sold it in 2007.

It was fun when it worked.

>>34788499
heh, i have the evo and want the mpx. and a mp5 clone too

>>34785308
>i'm new to pistol caliber carbines

>not a single /k/omrade has pointed out to OP that those are pistol caliber pistols.

>>34788592
Mine runs pretty well. The 100 rounder has to be wound up with 25 or so left a lot. It shoots upside down which is cool.

>>34788617
It counts. Brace is close enough

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PCCs are dumb. SMGs are not.
Fuck Congress.
Fuck feds.

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>>34785783
You take that back

>>34788628
shoo shoo frogposter

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Vectorfag here.

Just ran the gambit of the pistol caliber carbine.

I was leaning very closely toward an MPX but decided on the vector instead, largely because of the Glock mag compatibility and the unique function.

In my experience, you really can't go wrong with either the MPX or Scorpion though, but I personally prefer the MPX from a quality and familiarity standpoint.

Lage makes great stocks and adaptors for both the evo and mpx

>>34788701
Jews are a blight on this planet.

>>34788768
Sleep tight, subber!

>>34788848
hey be easy he is sleeping

>>34788768
Sleep tight, subber

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>>34785528
I keep trying to get it for $150, but it goes out of stock as soon as it comes in at that price...

>>34788997
Send an email. I asked them when their sbpdw would be in stock, they told me a week ish, and then they followed up as soon as it was available. God tier customer service.

I got an evo SBR'd, two things I would recommend if you get a brace is a right side safety delete and a new pistol grip. The stock one has a horrible angle. There is one floating around for like $20 that I picked up and it is worlds better. Also I think HBI makes it, buts its a trigger spring that brings the trigger down to about 5lbs and its only $5 or so.

>>34785308
I am a PCC whore and have both along with several other PCCs.
Compared to my other PCCs, when shot the scorpion has very jumpy recoil. Not smooth like an MP5 or the MPX. It runs decently suppressed, but the single reason it has gotten so popular is its price. Both the gun and mags are cheap for the scorpion.

The MPX is smooth, but can be gassy when suppressed. Plus, Sig is sure to drop support for the MPX like they do for everything anymore. While the MPX mags aren’t HK pricy, they aren’t cheap either.

If I could just have one of the two, I would go with the MPX.

Other options you should be considering:
Kriss Vector
Zenith MP5 clone
B&T APC9 or APC45.
9MM AR-15 with LRBO
B&T TP9
UZI Pro

>>34788583
Yes, just don't try to go full cheap about it.
Some guidelines.
1. Buy one that takes Glock mags.
2. Buy a dedicated lower, not a mag block conversion.
3. Buy as much of the gun from a single manufacture as possible. I recommend QC10.
4. Not all LRBHO devices are created equal, do research before buying.

>>34790838
I was looking into a dedicated Colt pattern lower, any downsides to that? Supposedly the lrbho is more reliable with Colt stick mags, compared to Glock.

>>34788750
>ran the gambit

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>>34785812
Did you have that cut or did you find a k barrel somewhere?

I'm considering having mine cut

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Who /cx4/ here?

>>34785569
>>34785613
How do you like those braces? I'm thinking about getting the stock versiom since my cuck stamp is payed

>>34791783
Get out

>>34785387
>right side of ambi safety is ass and hurts your trigger finger
buy a safety delete and upgrade that shitty stock trigger you double nigger

>>34791783
Just sold mine to get an evo

It's a fine gun just cost a lot for 922r to thread the barrel and evo comes thread stocked.

>>34790792
Are the B&T guns worth the price? The APC45 and TP9 look slick, but I can't get over paying that much for what would end up being a range toy or collectible.

>>34791783
Trying to find one in .40

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>>34791815
The brace is actually pretty awesome. I was going to get a cuckstamp but I'm reconsidering. All said and done, am extra 200 bucks is nothing, but I like being able to cross state lines without paperwork And bullshit

>>34785757
Aside from decades worth of improvements in weight, materials, ergonomics and end user customization?

>>34792539
>decades
>small arms development

The guns and ammunition we were using in the 60's are basically what we're using today. The UZI's design isn't all that outdated.

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>>34785308
I run this Scorpion in USPSA PCC division. Do you have any specific questions?

>>34790792
My mpx isn't gassy suppressed at all. I have gen 2 with liberty mystic x and iv never had an issue with gas or blowback.

>>34791750
Had it cut and threaded to .5x28.

>>34791815
Yes. Very much. Only complaint I have is occasionally it will pull my mustache hair.

>>34792266
That's why I didn't sbr mine. I live in Ohio but my range is in Indiana. That would get old fast.

>>34792923
Yes,how poorly do you fair? And how poor are you?

>>34785757

As someone who's owned an open bolt 10" bbl UZI for years, serves with an EVO and owns an MP5 clone, the UZI is fucking trash and if you seriously compare it to a closed bolt pistol carbine, you have likely never shot either.
I actually sold it months after getting the MP5 because the prospect of shooting any 9mm through the UZI instead of the MP5 was simply so laughable.

>>34792923
Yes - why are you such a faggot?

>>34792266
No state lines to cross so I'm good

>>34795416
No mustache, good to go too

>>34792010
Yes and no on the APC 45. It's very nice, nicer than it needs to be. Everything feels so well put together on it. Still though, you could buy a CMMG MKG for half the price and while it won't be as silky smoothly put together, it will likely work just as well. I put it on the list to investigate as someone might want that top tier of PCC rather that just something that works.

TP9, only if you really want something very small and lightweight. The only other option I can think off off the top of my head in this size category would be a UZI Pro. Again, more of a specialized want, but if you have that itch it's about the only way to scratch it.

>>34799827
>you could buy a CMMG MKG for half the price
Get out peasant.

>>34795405
My kid was getting gassed out while mag dumping the MPX through the omega 9k this past weekend.

It could be silencer/rate of fire dependent.

>>34791532
LRBHO for Glock mags seem to have the most problems with aftermarket mags. My PCC AR-15 hasn't failed to lock back yet with factory mags.

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>>34788556
Calico is next on my list. I've got a SITES Spectre en route to my lgs.

>>34788750
Why no rifles using recoil reducing mechanism? AA12 is the only thing i can think of thats close enough.

>>34799865
Could be. The mystic is kind of a big silencer. Means lots of volume maybe less back pressure? Either way it's a joy to shoot.

>>34795427
Form 20 is good for a year you dipshits. Just keep filing it. How often do you think someone with the authority to do so will check you on it? I've never once been asked to produce it though I still do them every year for my SBRs.

>>34801332
But why bother.

>>34801332
I have places to shoot in ohio Kentucky and Indian. Don't want to deal with the paperwork

>>34791783
Oh, you served on the Battlestar Galactica too?

>>34792923
Nice, I'm waiting on my form 1 and 4, just a few more months. Does adding the proper stock fix the right side safety from digging into your finger?

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I like the carbine one.

>>34785308
Neither will feed hollowpoints, right?

They seem like a really practical HD setup, but fmj doesnt cut it IMO.

>>34791750

haha, I bet that shit makes you go blind and get brain damage

>>34785308
Go buy a Zenith MP5. You will thank me OP.

>>34801810
Mine feeds hp no problem at all.

Can I do the sbr paperwork while overseas?

>>34788768
oh shit my pic spread!

>>34802973
Just like the cancer in your body.

>>34788768
Sleep tight, subber.

>>34792560
Yeah basically, on the most basic level, in that we still use self contained cartridges and projectile weapons. A heavy stamped steal blowback gun whose best feature is a telescoping bolt and disassembly isn't the same as a gun with either an extensive use of polymer or aluminum to weight less, while having a piston system, waaaay better sights and trigger options ,better mounting options, better stock options etc etc etc. Let's realistic for a minute man.

>>34800434
It's not a recoil reducing mechanism. That benefit comes from the action being ahead of and inline with the hand. Also rifles can just make use of inline stocks, gas systems and muzzle devices. They're easier to shoot anyway thanks to weight and points of contact

>>34788750
Also vectorfag here, wish I had gone with an MPX desu, I want an echo trigger one day.

How do you like your vector? I got mine in 10mm and it's neato.