Catastrophic case failure

>>34768776
looks like your average case rupture to me. Means the inside of your chamber is not adequately supporting the brass. post detailed pics, and don't shoot it anymore.

I'd send it to back to the manufacturer with that empty case so they can evaluate it and determine that the weapon is safe to shoot OR fix it.

Is your chamber fully supported? If yes, then maybe something wrong with your firing pin causing it to fire early?

>FN
>Fuddy Five
there's you're problem.

>>34768776
looks like defective brass. Could have been a microfracture or similar in the case before you shot it and that caused the thing to go boom

>>34768776
this thread is bullshit. show the pistol so we can see what happened where that happened.

lies. all lies. lies an fabrications.

Reloading brass makes it slightly weaker, due to case walls being thinner and more brittle.
Also handguns are usually not fully case supported, Meaning the bullet when chambered is actually not fully enclosed.
As a reloader I reload handgun cases many times but inspect cases for cracks at case mouth and signs of stress at base of casing.
Case failings are scary but not unheared of, Im glad you are alright, and your gun should be fine. Hope this helps buddy.

>>34768776
.45ACP has a notoriously weak case web, just saying.

>>34768776
Also that absolutely looks like a lack of case support.

>>34768776
I've reloaded for 30+years. No telling how many thousands of rounds. Had this happen a handful of times. The incidence is low as fuck but it does happen anon. Never caused an injury or any weapon damage the few times it's happened to me.

>>34768804
>>34768845

Sorry fellas, I've packed my gear up and am on my way home. I'll produce some close up pics when I get back if y'all are still interested in about an hour.

>>34768864
It does, thanks! What are some common signs of stress? I've only been reloading about 8 months now.

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I'm back, and with detailed pictures.

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Through the mouth

I've had a fairly similar incident occur with 9mm in a P226 X5 - best guess by my gunsmith was either a flaw in the brass, or possibly bullet setback in the case. No damage to the weapon, just a big flash, boom, a bit of soot on my face and a quick check to make sure my underwear was the same color. I'll post a pic of the case if I can find it.

>>34769659
That's pretty far up the case or just an unsupported chamber. Looks like OOB to me. Sticky firing pin/striker maybe? Clean the channel it rides in.

All the case failures I've had it was clear that it was just the very edge right where the barrel support ended at the feed ramp.

>>34768776
>still no pics of the gun or any mention of what gun it was
Smells like bullshit.

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>>34768804
>>34768864
>>34768875

Look at that not-quite-fully supported chamber.

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>>34769696
Loaded round for reference.

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>>34769688
Like so.

Maybe you shouldn't reload something as cheap as .45ACP you fucking poorfag

>>34769717
Maybe you don't shoot enough to warrant reloading or don't shoot competitions where matching ammo to guns is required to be competitive

>>34769703
Wow yeah that's some lack of support. I wouldn't shoot the same brass out of that gun twice. Every time you fire it and then resize it it's gonna work that area and weaken it.

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>>34769690
Calm your tits dude, I'm taking them as I go. Besides, >>34768826 in all his autism already guessed the make.

It's an FNP-45T. If I remember correctly, better chamber support was one of the upgrades of the FNX series, maybe that would have prevented this.

Chamber and barrel look fine though.

>>34769709
Oh and for the record that brass I posted that's blown up is a Winchester brass just like yours...

>>34769747
Your gun is fine anon. Once that case let go there was a shitload of space for that pressure to expand into so not a lot of force to break shit. It's scary but not very dangerous on the kaboom scale of ways things can go bad.

>>34769696
I'd say that's it.
You wore out your brass and the lesser case support just took it out.

DESU if you want to reload .45ACP a lot, consider maybe .45 Super casings, same dimensions, but much stronger case web, the idea is to be able to actually hotrod .45ACP, but if you load it at regular .45ACP levels it should hold up for a while.

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>>34769736
I mean, it's not *that* bad. Just a sliver where the feed ramp slopes down. Still though, definitely let this case rupture on me.

>>34769747
>FNP-45T
>trusting yuroshit
Get your finger blown up next time faggot

>>34769802
You have to be 18 to post on 4chan.

>>34769753
Anecdotal, yet compelling... wonder what their manufacturing tolerances are?

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>>34769770
>>34769794

Yeah, my mind's more or less at ease now. Thanks guys, you were pretty cool this time.

I think it's worth reminding the thread that this case has been reloaded
>5 or 6 times
so it's probably not the gun's fault.

>>34769141
The issue with .45 ACP is that you rarely need to size it, so you don't get that all-critical force feedback from a sizing die that would tell you this (over-aged brass would be more difficult to push through the die). You need to carefully inspect the case before choosing to reload it, looking for cracks, stretch marks, etc. Alternatively, you now know that 5 times reloaded is dangerous. You can keep track of how many times you reload a case, and ditch the brass after the 5th time you fire it.

People have done this just by carefully paying attention, but I'd like to know if there's anything I could use to mark the cases a certain color after reloading that won't change color after firing. I've tried sharpie on the back, which turned black.

>>34769885
...FNP-45 in FDE with RDS...
Were you at the western NC meetup by any chance?

>>34769921
I was not, but I'm glad to hear there's another anon out there with good taste.

>>34769904
I guess I could start putting different aged brass in different containers as well. I already do that for rifle, but I didn't think it would matter as much on pistol loads.

>>34769829
new anon, in all five of my ruptured .40 cases, four of them have been winchester. However, i bought these as a pack of 1000 from a small range, so perhaps i have a majority winchester? each rupture was just a crack running halfway down the case, starting at the mouth. entirely unnoticed while shooting, but found while reloading

>>34768776
have been wondering a lot lately why i waste so much time on this site with all the bait threads and shitposting.
then i see this thread and it reminds me of why i like coming here...to learn.

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>>34769885

>>34769753
>>34770105
no ruptures, but more than a few weak shots with 9mm winchester white box lately.

>>34768776
>Anybody have theories on what went wrong exactly?

Yea, you loaded a hot round.

>>34770259
or maybe read the whole thread before posting.

>>34769921
Giddy painted his

>>34768826
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that this guy was able to correctly ID the pistol from the out of focus edges of a magazine, slide, and chamber... and with all that talent chose to shitpost.

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>>34768776
>I've reloaded that cartiridge 5 or 6 times

GEE I WONDER

Most people toss their brass in the scrap pile after 4 reloads max

>>34770351
You shouldn't be allowed to post on /k/ if you can't do at least that much.

>>34770357
Low pressure straight walled brass like the .45 is pretty much immortal. Short of hot loads or gun failure it should last for dozens of loads.
I have .45 ACP brass that is pushing 20 years and has been reloaded so many times that ejector strikes have completely peened out the headtamps. With care it's even possible to reload bottleneck rifle rbrass 100 times or more.

>>34770404
Some initial research is showing that 5.2 gr of w231 is a little on the hot side.

>>34770404
>Low pressure straight walled brass like the .45 is pretty much immortal
Except .45ACP brass isn't especially strong.

>>34770432
By the manufacturer's own data it's a starting load.

>>34770452
Depends on what primer you're using.

>>34770460
Pistol primers show almost as much variation between lots from the same brand as they do between brands.
A simple primer change will not take a starting load to +p territory.

>>34768776
cut down some .308 brass .44 automag style if you want your brass to last forever

>>34770404
>Low pressure straight walled brass like the .45 is pretty much immortal.

It's low pressure but most .45 brass is fucking shit, manufacturers try to cut material costs since it's such a large case.

>>34770259
I don't need to, you loaded a hot fucking round.

Did you hand measure the amount of powder you put in that case? Fuck no, you didn't. You probably didn't even inspect your brass before you started cranking it out on a progressive reloader either.

Shit happens dude, and that round got a little more powder than the case could handle, and you're just lucky that it didn't get so much that it blew the shit out of your barrel.

>>34770645

Not necessarily always the situation - the powder I (not OP) use in 9mm (not .45) is fairly low density and a double charge just about won't fit in a 9mm case - you'd sure as fuck see it.

>>34770703
It doesn't take a double load to rupture a case, dude.

I reload on a SDB, and while I haven't had a catastrophic failure, yet, I've broken off a few rounds over the years that I could tell had some fucking extra zip to them that they shouldn't have had. Machines aren't perfect, and unless you measure out each charge, those machines are likely to fluctuate a bit from time to time.

>>34769981
Pistol rounds do last a lot longer before failure, and dont need trimming as often.
I throw handgun cases rather than trim them, because its just not worth it and it means the case is near the end of its life.

Holy shit, that unsupported chamber is Glock-tier.

Don't use reloads in it and you'll be fine, OP.

>>34768776
if youre going to reload brass multiple times take some fucking measurements on how much it expands dipshit

have you ever bent a paperclip back and forth until it broke? yes dipshit, brass works the same way. keep blowing it out and pressing it in and eventually it weakens and breaks. use some fucking common sense before you hurt yourself or more importantly some innocent next to you

>>34770815
calm your tits mr. hindsight
not here to defend op but your blowout is unreasonable
also it's called work hardening

>>34770246
well, my .40's have been reloaded quite a bit.. generally i grab a few hundred out of the bag, shoot them until i eventually lose and refil the lost ones. they last quite some time though.

>>34768776
>reloaded that cartridge 5 or 6 times
That's 2 too many times, I get 3 reloads out of my brass, than shit can it. You can't keep reloading brass over and over again. By the third time of reloading, the walls of the casing are already starting to get thin from resizing. Its out of spec. Just a word of advice anon.