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>>34765166
There's a Lebel for sale for 400 at the Anoka MN gun show.

>>34765166

>French edition
>Before I get my frog gun

>>34765350
Sorry, a few people wanted one last thread

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Have no Frogsurp. Have Frog adversarialsurp.

I would like a Lebel Mle.86 M93 and a Berthier Mle.07-15 infantry rifle. Haven't seen any locally in years.

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>>34765729
I'm digging the trench mag and ersatz bayonet! You're like a 1918 Stosstruppe who couldn't get a K98AZ lol

>>34765184
You bought it didn't you?

The Vergueiro I was looking at was 8mm.... I'm so sad right now.

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Went to the gun show today. No French surp'.

Got a Spanish FR-8 though

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>>34765797

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>>34765756
>You're like a 1918 Stosstruppe who couldn't get a K98AZ lol
Wouldn't want to assault a trench with this thing; the extendo-mag has a very tenuous hold on the triggerguard.

>>34765797
>Got a Spanish FR-8 though
>>34765811
Nice. Such neat rifles.

>>34765785
I'm spending that money I'm saving on that Schoenauer, I can't justify it, even if it was a steal. I just wanted other anons to know in case they were local.

That sucks about the Vergueiro, was it long or shortened?

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>>34766370
Shortened. I figured that would be the case, but I held out hope it was a unconcerned one.

Oh well, I'll find something to buy this month.

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I need more 'surp. But I'm only 22 so I've got time to get more.

>>34765729

Nice. I really want a K98k ATM, but if I found one I'd settle for a G98.

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C&R will be here SOON™ and I'm gonna try a get a type 99 to celebrate. I also really want a Carcano for some reason

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>>34767055
Nice to see more brass tabs in here.

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>>34767152
Brass tabs best tabs

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The front door of my LGS. I cry every tiem.

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>>34767186
The dark wood makes them stand out better too

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>>34767186
Aye. Wish I had some brass.

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>>34767216
That nice root beer color is the best Mosin color. Too bad my m44 doesn't match

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Is police surplus welcome in milsurp general?

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>>34767253
Yeah I'm just lucky my dad got me mine when they were $99, it sucks since the only part that doesn't match is the but-plate, which is force-matched.

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>>34767302
My floor plate is force matched

>>34767289

Yeah.

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>>34767239
Brass makes everything better. At less makes things more AESTHETIC

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>tfw you just have copper rivets on your handguard
A–at least I have a walnut stock!

>>34767289
Surplus is surplus. Police 'surp is probably all we're likely to see now if our retarded laws stay in effect.

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>>34767392
I have one of those.

Although mine isn't a Finn.

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What should I get next? I was thinking maybe a Mauser pls help me decide.

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>>34767538
Mas 36

>>34767538

Get yourself a *PING!*

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>>34767538
>I was thinking maybe a Mauser pls help me decide.
Do that.

>>34767595

Krautshit

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>>34767611
>*Krautshit, Swedeshit, Czechshit, Spicshit, Turkshit, Serbshit
FTFY

Nipshit and UShit too, if we're generous with the definition of "Mauser".

>>34767634
Don't for get the Polackshit

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>>34767634
And Brit shit, if we are being generous afterall.

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>>34767652
I wish I had some. Sadly I do not. I should've bid on that Wz.98a last summer; it only went for $350 in the end. Would really like to find an un-upgraded W.98; then I can have Gew.98s made in 3 countries.

>>34767595
You seem to have a lot of knowledge about mausers. I've been looking for a 7.62 Israeli Mauser (usually VZ 24s and k98s converted to NATO) because the action is strong enough to fire .308 commercial

Where do I find these?

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>>34767706
I think it's been about 50 years since my Model 1917 looked like that.

>>34767716
>Where do I find these?
Gunbroker, Liberty Tree Collectors, Empire Arms, Simpson Ltd., the Trader board on Gunboards.

>>34767755
For some reason I can't register for Gunboards, been trying for a few days now. I fill out all the info, then whenever I try to submit it sends me to a network error page. Really want to get in, it seems like you can snag some decent deals on there.

>>34767755
That might be the only sporterized bolt action rifle that doesn't upset me.

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>>34765166
holy fuck bubba why did you do this. 50 bucks, lets try to save her.

>>34768790
I have a few Arisakas, my most recent one I bought I got for a bargain because is has a bad ring in the barrel.
Now Im thinking of rebarreling and rechambering it to 308, however keeping the most I can original like not modifing the stock, keeping the original sights and bolt.
The exterior is 7/10, and no mum on this Arisaka.
Your thoughts on this guys.

How should the bore of a No.4 Mk.I look? All my other rifles have ridges as rifling but my Enfield is glass smooth with rifled "slots", as in they're indented, not protruding.

>>34769032
Also, there are only 2 rifling grooves

>>34769013
If you want to waste a few hundred bucks, don't let us stop you. But you will be wasting a few hundred bucks.

>>34769032
>s p o o p y

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Shitty Iphone picture i know, but what do you guys think of my first rifle?

>>34769327
That's pretty hot anon, show us a picture of her chamber ;D

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>>34769456
I would love to but its at the Gunsmith, getting checked out. I found DP marking on the stock (after i purchased it ) so im a bit anxious, he said it all looked fine though. may just be the stock. ill send some serials in a sec.

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>>34769327
What do you guys think of this? Paid 500$ for it, along with 200 rounds of .303 and a reloading kit.

Timely thread, I've been on a French kick the last few weeks. Been all over the Las Vegas valley the last two days looking for French guns, I'd particularly like to grab a Lebel in good shape. in particular. Going to hit up a gun show next weekend, and if not, I guess I'll pick up one off the internet. I have to say, I prefer purchasing milsurps in person.

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>>34767209
That's pretty fucking disgusting, m8. Where is this shop?

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>>34769013
Show your gun first.
It's honestly worth more with the bad barrel. And honestly, it may shoot just fine.

>>34769589
I've been on a straight pull kick recently, really want to pick up an M95 or one of the Swiss rifles. Really tough to find one locally though, especially one that isn't $200 over what it's worth.

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So I got 14 measly pieces of Lebel brass in a package deal. I want a Lebel one day, but it won't be anytime soon, so I don't need these. Anyone want to trade? I'd trade straight up for 7.5 French, 8x56r, 7.7 Jap, or 30-40 Krag brass. If not, I'd like 20 cases of 8mm Mauser, 7mm Mauser, or .303 Brit.

USPS shipping should be only like $3, and padded envelopes are under $1 at Walmart.

>>34770109
K31s are nice guns, Anon.

But, how about a topic of discussion, why do you guys like milsurps? I'm curious; personally, I am an amateur history nerd and gun nut, so milsurps kind of combine my hobbies.

>>34770250
They make my penis become the big penis

I'm just fucking with you; they are amazing pieces of history that are really cool to learn the history of and they have more character than a basic AR-47 you see most people with

>>34770250
Got into guns with video games as a kid, WWII games in particular. Always wanted to get a Kar98k but since I was poor I had to settle on a Mosin. It's gone downhill from there.

>>34770250
The history, (former) cheap price and loving with buddies also collecting helped. And the thrill of the hunt... going into a new pawn shop, seeing a Finn mosin priced low out of ignorance. Really the thrill of the mispriced or good deal. My most memorable gets:
Matching gew98 for $75 with bayonet
Real jungle carbine for $150
Ex pem mosin I resnipered
Like 9 arisakas under $125
10 m44s under $125
Persian mauser $200
Albanian sks $250
S.A. stamped m38 $75
I can go on and on. Felt good man

>>34770413
>resnipered
Eh...

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>>34770250
I get warm feelings when I hold a gun that is 120 years old, and still shoots as well as it did when it was made in Germany in 1897. That's not something you get with an AR or an AK or a Glock. I love the history behind them, and I always wonder what my rifles have seen in their long lives, what wars they might have been in, or if they simply sat in storage for over their whole existence. If only milsurps could talk.

Shot my swiss vetterli today at the range. The first time I fired I got the game warden from the other side told the range ask me "what the hell is that?" Feels good man, being able to share a bit of my autism to someone else.

Hey guys I have $2000 and only a .22 what milsurp should I get, I want as much as possible but still quality (for example I'll pay more for an exdragoon mosin because of the history and the better quality)

>>34770951
IMO with 2k you should really invest in 2, maybe 3 rifles that are really cool than dump it all on one.

>>34770973
That's what I'm trying to say I want to do

>>34769870
Berkeley. Freaking commies.

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>>34770250
History nerd and am a gun hipster. So milsurp it is.

>>34770951
Do you reload? If not that should be your first $500.

>>34770764
Yeah, early on in my collecting i was a little more ready to modify a firearm than i am now. Don't regret it, but wouldnt do it again.

>>34771102
How do I get into that, is it a pain in the ass?

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>>34767209
>mfw I thought the top was a type 99 long rifle at first
still sad seeing guns crucified like, it's quite a waste of perfectly fine rifles

>>34771318
No, it's a lot of fun and rather relaxing. Also the only way to affordably shoot many milsurps.

>>34769870
what type of arisaka 99 is that?
it looks last ditch but the recoil lug looks different

>>34771413
Do you have to buy pulled bullets to load or do I have to start melting down lead ingots and lead bars and pouring them into a mold

>>34767634
Well Japan really did make Mausers for the Kingdom of Siam
I've heard 7.62x54R would fit in them but it seems fucking crazy to fire it

>>34768790
bubba can't install a sling either

>>34771470
I buy new bullets. I wouldn't mess with casting until you have the basics of reloading down first.

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>>34771445
It's an early 27th series made by Tokyo Juki Kogyo. The first 5-6000 were made with formerly rejected stocks. That's why it has the older style recoil lug and it retains the older inletting and screw holes that was just filled in with dowels.

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>>34771512
>Well Japan really did make Mausers for the Kingdom of Siam
Yeah but I don't have one of those either.

Yet...

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>>34771624
Here is where the button for the cleaning rod release would have been.

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>>34771637
>>34771624
wow that's really interesting
the stuff you have really makes me realize I know barely anything about Arisakas
here's an image (sadly not mine) of an uncommon variant of the type 38, a short rifle type

>>34770250

Basically the same. They are pieces of history and I like guns.

>>34770413

Jesus...those aren't recent are they? Because I'd love to double your money on one of those M44s...

>>34771668
No, not too recent. Occasionally you find the lawn shop that hasn't gotten the memo that everything went up, but it's rare.

I've got a nice little collection of type 99s that trace the prewar to "last ditch" progression pretty well. It's fascinating to see the workmanship and material quality slip.

>>34771758

Unfortunately I think all the shops around me have people to make sure they're pricing their guns right.

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>>34771758
>I've got a nice little collection of type 99s that trace the prewar to "last ditch" progression pretty well. It's fascinating to see the workmanship and material quality slip.
Pics?
Do you have a Type 99 long rifle? ;^^^)

>>34771988
Not a long rifle. I gotta get the family together and take a good pic.

>>34765166
What's your opinion on Gewehr 43, /msg/?
Personally I think they're the sexiest milsurps around.

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>>34772202

>>34770413
That's a fun factor, too. Scouring pawnshops looking for a deal on "grandpa's old gun I don't need."
I worked in my dad's shop in high school and before I went to basic, it was a constant stream of guns that "I need to get rid of to pay for xyz." I picked up an all matching M44 for $25 and a Winchester 1894 for $75.

Unfortunately, I didn't make much money then, and between ammo and chasing girls, I didn't buy nearly as many guns as I should have. Then Obama happened, and I started trying to buy whatever new rifle I wanted, you guys know how those years were.

>>34770765
It is cool to hold a gun and wonder if the chunk missing in the stock was knocked out in the Somme, or if scratches happened in Stalingrad. I've often wished objects could talk.

>>34772105
Please do, anon, that sounds interesting. I wish I had the focus to amass a collection like that, but I tend to buy whatever pops up that I can afford.

>>34770839
Super cool, man. A Vetterli is on my list at some point.

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>>34772211
Not worth it, just get a Hakim instead. Unless you're some kinda Wehraboo

Anyone know what a 7 pointed star with an A in it means on a no1 mk3? The star is immediately after the mk3 on the gun if that helps.

It's a BSA dated 1911. When day breaks I'll try to get some pictures if needed.

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>>34772798
Marked like this?

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>>34772810
snapped a quick pic, best I could get at the moment. The little star after MKIII has an A in it

>>34772827
Rather the III, not MKIII. My bad.

how much rifle ammo did the average soldier carry in WWI/II? im having trouble finding a concrete number for each country. im sure just like today soldiers carrried more than the standard combat load but i cant even find out that.

>>34772939
It would usually be around 30 or 40 rounds easily gotten in their pouches, with another 60 or so rounds not as easily gotten. If you're doing a major assault you'll probably carry a lot more in disposable cloth bandoliers.

>>34771552
Ok thanks /k/ompadre

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>>34765811
How much?

>>34772523
I got pretty lucky. A pawn shop just changed hands and hadn't switched prices yet, so there wasn't a price on the gun, so they told me to make an offer and they accepted $150. It's missing the cleaning rod and has some minor putting too. But it was made in 1879 after all. They even had a spare bolt body that I bought so I didn't have to drill a hole in the original one.

>>34772827
It means it was lend/lease to australia

>>34773893
Thanks! With that information I was able to find a pdf of Australian markings that are present on this rifle.

>>34772939
It depends on the country. The normal load for most countries is 100. But an Italian soldier could carry way more than a German or French soldier

>>34773986
Luckily for him, the French soldier wouldn't have to carry ammo for long.

>>34774015
Eat my baguette, faggot.

I'm bidding on a pair of Spanish Civil War rifles ATM, a Polish gun and a K98a (I think).

>>34773757
He asked $550, got him down to $425 w/tax and transfer.

I don't really care if I paid too much, I've really wanted a milsurp in 7.62 NATO, I was willing to pay $500 but the Jew in me said no.

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So here's my deal guys, I got this M897 takedown field gun made in 1905 that was slightly bubba'd when I bought it. I picked it up for only 199$, whoever owned it before me cut the 30 inch barrel down to about a riot gun length and had an ugly orange butt pad that was falling apart already. Also, it could use a new finish done on it as well.

What I've been thinking is converting it into a trenchgun variant since the barrel has been cut down, issue is I'm not even sure such a thing is possible with an older shotgun. There's a family owned gunsmith around where I live that I was planning on taking it to when I have some money saved up but I wanted to run it by you guys for opinions and advice before I do.

What do you guys think? Should I go for it or should I just get the butt pad replaced and get i re-finished? Also, I'll post pics of it

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>>34776259
Here's the barrel

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>>34776272
A closer look at the end of the barrel

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>>34776279
and the buttstock, part of the butt pad fell off after I caught my roommates dog chewing on it

>>34776259
It's a take down so it's not gonna look very much like the Trench gun you want it to be. Just appreciate it for what it is and save your money for an actual trench gun.

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>>34776453
Alright, I'm still gonna get the butt pad fixed, so far it shoots just fine (I fucking creamed when I found out it can slamfire). Also, since I got my hands on a camera, I fucked up my Mosin bolt and it looks like I may need to get a completely new bolt.

I don't have the tools to force the firing pin out and I fucked up the guide rod trying to get it out

>>34776259
I have converted one of the take down models to a trench gun before. It's going to be expensive though especially if you ask ask gunsmith to do it for you. Model 1897's are a real bitch to work on. They've got like a million parts and disassembly/reassembly is like doing a jigsaw puzzle. Just having it hot blued and having the wood refinished would be expensive. The steel on those old Winchesters has a lot of nickel in them and need to be blued at a higher tempurature. Numrich sells the heat shields for 100 something dollars. The barrel needs to have divets ground into it with a dremel so the screws that hold the heat shield in place have a place to rest. You usually need to machine a bushing to get the heat shield to fit, because the shields were designed for a straight barrel and the take down models have slightly tapered barrels. You may need to have the barrel cut some more to fit the heat shield so that means it would need to be re-crowned.

>bluing
>barrel modifications
>stock dent steaming/refinishing
>fitting a new butt pad
>ordering, modifying, and fitting a heat shield

Fuck man, if someone asked me to do all that, I'd probably want at least 800 bucks. That's a lot of work.

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>>34776608
Geez, I may just buy the butt pad myself and replace it and have a gunsmith look at the end of the barrel (for some reason it just doesn't look right>>34776279)

Also I kind of want to get it blued but from the sound of it, it looks like it may be more trouble than its worth. The damn thing was made in 1905

what is everyones favorite rifle and why? im torn between my no4 and m39. both have amazing triggers and great lines. the type 38 looks pretty as well but im not a big fan of the sights and the trigger on mine isnt on the same level as the others.
all of them can hit a milk jug at 200yds, thats plenty accurate imo.

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>>34777027
Either my Mas 36 or my Winchester 1895.

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>>34777027
Probably my Chilean 1895, followed closely by my 91/30. My Chilean is old, but its a fucking tack-driver. I can nail water jugs at 75 years standing with it every time.

>>34777073
cmon man, at least go into a little detail about what you like/dislike ablut them. im trying to start a discussion thats not what should i pay for X

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>>34777027
My #4 is my favorite gun. I'm sure that's going to change as my collection grows.

>>34777112
my nigga. i like that top hand guard, the slats look nice. mine was an irish contract so it doesnt have those. the diopeter sights on these might be my favorite of any milsurp.

>>34776730
It looks like someone simply cut the barrel and faced it off instead of crowning it properly. With a shotgun it doesn't really matter, it's not like s rifle where improper crowning will have an adverse effect on accuracy. It's purely aesthetics but I think a properly crowned shotgun barrel looks much nicer.

>>34773881
If you have a chance, post some pictures, anon.

>>34774015
>Come to milsurp thread
>post stupid "lulz the franch r cowards" bullshit.

>>34776259
I would personally leave it like it is, but I'm not a fan of faux-repros. I would get the face of that barrel cleaned up, and if you want to spend more, rebluing and get the wood cleaned up some.

>>34777027
I love the Lee Enfields. They're not only my favorite milsurp, they're my favorite bolt action rifles. They're quirky guns with some annoying things about them, but the capacity, smooth operation, and speed of firing make up for quirks like short brass life and sensitivity to bedding. They also have an interesting history, and are still fairly affordable, as far as milsurps go. When I was still in NC, I hunted pretty much exclusively with a Lee Enfield.

I'm slowly collecting parts on a No. 1 Mk. III* restoration, I paid $100 for a bubba job that needs a new forestock, handguards, and the other accoutrements relating to that part of the rifle. It's a labor of love and wasted money.

I need to pick up a M39 at some point, I find the level of work put into them to be interesting. It's cool to see a relatively crude gun like the Mosin Nagant turned into a pretty damned good rifle, not to mention the history of killing communists.

Found a convenient place to shoot yesterday and I imagine Ill probably be going around once a month now on vs. once a year. What is a good reloading press I can buy for someone who doesnt know anything about it?

what makes any of these better or different from one another?

http://www.brownells.com/reloading/reloading-kits/rock-chucker-supreme-master-kit-prod79994.aspx

http://www.brownells.com/reloading/reloading-kits/breech-lock-challenger-kit-prod54175.aspx

I think I might want one with a auto primer or whatever its called because that looks like it would be a pain in the ass otherwise

>>34777287
The Rock Chucker is the "classic" reloading press. I use a Dillon 550 and a Rock Chucker for rifle calibers, and a Lee for 12 gauge. Have used Lee rifle presses in the past. I'm loading on decades old RCBS stuff that my Grandpa bought.

Either of those two will work great for your purposes, though I would lean towards the RCBS due to their reputation for quality. If you can't swing that money, then the Lee is a good option and will likely serve you well to learn on, and decide if you want to really get into reloading.

>>34777254
i havent hubted with any of rifles yet but ive no doubt they could all put a deer on the table.
i think the biggest difference between the enfield action and a lot of other is the 60° bolt throw. cock on close doesnt hurt but im pretty sure thats a bigger contributer to its speed. id love to find an original no5 but its tough trying to verify if its authentic online you know. i think those would be stupid fun.
I like pretty much all mosins that ive had a chance to fire. M39s have usually been the best but theres a couple of variants i havent had a chance to try yet. id really like to get an original m91 sniper just for the bent bolt. i think they look so much nicer thsn the straight one, i could care less about the scope. any rifle thats seen combat is cool imo.

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>>34767538
What does a luger go for these days? I always wanted one for target shooting and general fuckery.

>>34777506
even a mismatched pre war shitty finished one will cost near $1000 and you can spend probably 10x that if you want something special

>>34777532
You the anon from that post I replied to? How much did you pay?

>>34777544
I am not him but I buy a p08 in the not too distant past

>>34777457
I have to say I agree regarding the Enfield bolt throw. It's what makes the "mad minute" where you operate the rifle with two fingers and pull the trigger with your middle finger possible.

>>34777506
I had a friend recently pay $700 for an Artillery Luger that was cut down and had a notch milled in the toggle (somehow) for a rear sight. Unfortunately, it's going to be painful to buy a Luger. As the other Anon said, I looked at a Prewar in okay condition for $1100 just a few days ago.

My LGS has a krag for $350. Should i go for it?

>>34777149
>>34777254
I'm a sucker for aesthetics so I'll probably get it blued and the barrel crowned once my GI Bux start flowing in. As for my Mosin bolt I'll probably have to buy a new one, its properly fucked

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>>34777104
They're both good solid rifles and the best of their respective classes. Both are smooth, accurate, and properly sized and designed. But beyond their performance they're unusual and somewhat rare (my Mas is WW2 correct), so when people see me shooting them they're inclined to ask about them.

>>34777027
ljungman

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>>34777767
That's about the going rate for a typical cut down US Krag.

>>34777287
Rock chucker, only because it comes with a Speer manual, which is my go to. And personally I prefer a separate priming tool to doing it on the press. Makes case prep much easier and when I get to the press I can focus on just loading projectiles.

>>34777027
Winchester 1895 is my current favorite.

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Just for this for 175 without a mag. Pretty sure it's Israeli police surp. They had a few FEG ones for the same price but I wanted a jew gun.

>>34778016
I thought your mas was post war

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>>34777254

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>>34778223
Drilled a hole in the replacement bolt for the firing pin to go through. The firing pin is a rcbs recapping pin

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>>34778206
Nope.

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>>34778240
Bought this Teflon carrier from the swiss rifle boards to keep the firing pin from falling out. There are other ways to do this, but this seemed easiest.

>>34778125
>>34778029
see
>>34777104
everyone thinks these guns are neat but what makes them your favorite.

>>34778016
ive heard your thoughts on the mas 36 and while i cant agree or disagree because ive never handled one im sure theyre nice. what do you mean by the 1895 is best in its class? you think its the smoothest most accurate levergun? most fun?

>>34778240
What kind of drill press you using famalam?

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>>34778259
Not my picture, but it illustrates a the process. I trimmed 8 mm lebel down, sized it without the decapping rod in, annealed the cases from the shoulder up, loaded with 12gr. red dot, filled to the top with cornmeal, and sealed with wax. Then I fire formed them all to my chamber. I sized again, filled with 44 gr. of goex FFg and seated a buffalo arms 200 gr. LRNFP on top for about 1350 fps.

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>>34778335
Finished product.

>>34778296
Craftsman 17"(?) Drill press

>>34778223
>>34778240
>>34778259
>>34778335
>>34778368
And forgive the pictures, I'm phone posting atm

>>34778286
>what do you mean by the 1895 is best in its class? you think its the smoothest most accurate levergun?
For the most part yes. Accuracy... well I don't want to say it's the most accurate because there are plenty of vety very accurate lever rifles out there. But if I were to pick any lever rifle to use for military service the 1895 would be it. It's hard to explain if you've never handled one though.

>>34778431
maybe someday il own one, its not high on the list right now though. Out of all the leverguns ive used my 1892 is my favorite. something about a little lever carbine is just great, its small enough literally anyone could use it with no trouble, ammo is relatively cheap, and if you get some hotter stuff you could use it for some game. Maybe not the best for military service but easily my no.1 for everyday gun stuff

>>34772581
>Wehraboo
i like this

>>34778468
The old Winchesters are hard to beat overall. They're like a bottle of Johnny Walker White; smooth as silk and impossible recreate.

>>34767538
>Has Russki Garand
>Has HonHon Garand
GET THE REAL AMERICAN VERSION. BE AMERICAN DAMN IT.

>>34778657
Hakim>Garand

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Well lads, I've got myself a new project today. I bought a mix-master rust bucket of a 1916 BSA SMLE Mk.III*. It's missing some screws, a swivel or two, and the buttstock is loose, and managed to get cracked by I think the stock bolt's head getting jammed back and forth inside the loose butt. It has a surprisingly shiny bore though.

I know it doesn't have much to recommend it, but for $175 inc. tax what the hell.

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>>34778815
Oh, it also has a funny steel buttplate (barely) fitted that's way oversized.

>>34777100
>anon pulls the trigger of his Chilean Mauser
>the rifles report echoes across the hills
> 75 years later a young boy is walking home with a jug of milk in his hand
>BOOM
> the aging anon simply smiles from the window of his nursing home, safe in the knowledge that he used to be a good shot

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>>34777027
Favorite to look at? Mas or SMLE. Favorite to shoot? M44 or Hakim. It's too hard to pick just one

>>34778625
>smooth as silk and impossible recreate.
you're sipping that shit right now aren't you

>>34778858
kek

>>34777100
>minute of milk jug at 75 yards
>impressive

>>34778861
Fuck no. That's like $4000 a bottle IF you can even find it. It's a scotch that is beyond me, save for the fact that I have had the pleasure of knowing some rich, old friends.

>>34770839
6.5 conversion or 10x47mm REAL'A FUCKIN' PASTA?

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Also got a long pointy thing that fits on my Gew.98.

>>34779160
>Swiss Vetterli

Not in either cartridge.

>>34765166
Just got a P38 off gunbroker, and immediately ordered mags and replacement springs.

I want to get a replica holster since this will be a shooter, but should I go hard or soft shell?

>>34779163
Those are easily my favorite of the G.98 bayonets

>>34779204
Oh and it was a 1943 so Nazi era not postwar.

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>>34779218
Unfortunately while it is German...

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>>34777027

Definitely the M/1896. Based maple stock, beautifully accurate, lovely condition, turns heads at the range, and it was FREE!

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>>34779253
It's not really
>German

>>34778657
>Russki Garand
do you mean an Egyptian Hakim?
aka Sandnigger G43

>>34779199
Oof. Ammo is a bitch to find I hear. I heard 348 Win brass can be used. Is this true?

Just bought a Beretta m38a SMG.

Why do i torture myself with these open bolt kits...


I've never seen a French SMG, i know they /had/ an ugly ass one, did they never surplus them?

>>34779387
I confuse the two TBQH.

>TFW there's a pristine MAS36 by you and it has its bayonet
>There's also a Long Carl Gustav with its original sling (made in 1919) for under $450. Only thing missing is some of its front sights
>MFW ammo in store is a bitch to find.

>>34779407
Some yes, but many stayed in the hands of police and gendarmie(?) And by that point French export laws became impossible to escape. However Ian has a French subgun.

>>34779388
Yes. 8 mm lebel brass is better suited though (more similar rim thickness) see >>34778240 where I start to describe the conversion process.

>>34779199
>>34779160
The chambering is 10.4x38mm Swiss, or .41 Swiss as its more commonly referred to here in the states

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>>34778858
That's actually pretty funny.

But yeah, I fucking love this gun.

>>34778223
>>34778240
>>34778259
Super cool, dude. Rifle looks like it's in great condition, too.

I need an opinion, /msg/, I posted a few threads ago about looking at a G88 in fairly rough shape at a shop in town. I'm thinking about offering them $200 for it, contingent on them letting me pull the barrel jacket and make sure there's no severe rust on the barrel. What do you guys think, worth it? They're asking $350.
Supposedly, they have a book of info detailing the chamber/bore dimensions, so I wouldn't have to deal with figuring out the correct bullet diameter, etc. for it.

>>34780241
Yeah sorry but a store isn't going to let you dissamble a rifle and then take almost 50% off.

>>34780241
You're trying to rip them off man. 350 is a fair price unless it's been bubba'ed to hell.

>>34780287
>>34780519
Obviously, I'm not actually going to get it for $200. Do you guys not know how to haggle over prices? I'm not going to break the ice with what I'm actually hoping to pay.

>>34780241
It is, it was covered in surface rust when I got it and the bore has g it some putting in it, but I can ring the man sized steel at 100 yds pretty consistently.

Forgot to mention, the lowest setting on the sight is 200 m so it hits about 14" high at 100 yds. I just jury rigged a folded over piece of sheet metal epoxied to the front sight post to raise it by about .3"

>>34780591
I haggle over cars, guns, boats, and motorcycles
Asking for almost 50% less than list is a good way to blow any deal even if you don't expect to get it for $200

>>34780767
I guess if it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. I wouldn't knock off that much on a brand new gun, but on something that's obviously been sitting there a while and in the condition it was in, it's a good starting point. Wouldn't be the first time I've got a 1/3rd or more off asking price.

>>34780831
Look its one thing if its clearly overpriced and they're sitting on it. But, it isn't overpriced and it'll eventually sell for very near that price. Despite what people think milsurps don't fly off the shelf. While waiting can be a good way to get a good deal it only works if the price is way too high to begin with.

>>34780591
You're still insulting them, which means they aren't gonna want any deal with you. Especially when the list price is already very fair.

I'll consider what you guys are saying regarding the price, $350 seems a bit high, but I'm not terribly familiar with the pricing on 1888s. I'd be willing to pay a little more for this one, anyway, since the guy that sold it included a sheet of reloading data he used to shoot it.
I'll head over there some time this week and update you guys with whether I buy it or not.

1912 Norwegian Krag
Type 38 cavalry rifle
M95 long rifle

Which do you pick gentlemen?

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Alright, this thread is on page one!

>>34781325
M95 long rifle

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>>34781325
Fugg, I want to say Krag but I'm gonna have to go with the m95.

How do I meet someone off of armslist without being shot or raped?

>>34781325
I'm a huge weeb that loves jap guns, and even I would go with the M95 long rifle

Local store has an M91 Carcano in stock. The metal is in fair to good condition, no rust but it's browning and grimy. The stock is sound and in good shape, not sure it's been sanded or not. Bayonet is still there and rotates fine. Bore is strong but dark and greasy. Sticker price is I think is $275 or low $300s. I'd try to talk them down to $250. Would it be worth it?

>>34781325
>1912 Norwegian Krag
Get the Krag. You're a gun hipster, and Norwegian Krags are pretty weird and obscure.

>>34782177
All 3 of those are weird and obscure.

>>34782191
Yeah, but the Norske Krag has a really interesting look going for it with those weirdly conflicting lines of elegance and some abrupt industrial looking spots.

Most unique looking of the three.

>>34777767

If it's in original condition you can double your money easily, if it's bubbaed that's about right.

>>34777027

Aesthetically I love my SMLE, the blunt nose is unique and cool. Functionally I love my Trapdoor because of the action. If I had to take one of my milsurps to war though it's the Garand, for obvious reasons.

>>34781325

The M95 is highest on my list. I want a Weeg Krag, but that's low on the list. I have a Type 38 carbine already.

>>34782087

Yeah. I'd buy one at that price happily.

>>34782191

I would argue that the M95 isn't really that obscure, it's middle of the pack.

>>34781718
I've bought and sold 20+ guns on armslist. You'll be fine.

>>34778248
Yeah the thumbnail fooled me.

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>>34782295
>Type 38 carbine already.
As do I. But the cavalry rifle is a short rifle made from a long rifle for cavalry use. Much more obscure. Pic related.

i know someone that has mild aspergers. the own a moist nugget. would it be fucked up of me to buy it off of him for 100 shekels, knowing full well he would accept the offer because he has aspergers?
tl;dr - is it fucked to take advantage of a retard for a cheap mosin

>>34782444

Sure, but I already have one of the family still. I have a huge number of families to fill in before I can start completing them.

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>>34781325
>M95 long rifle
That. Long Mannlicher is best Mannlicher.

>>34782444
>Much more obscure.
Much more uggo, too.

>>34782444
I never knew what those were called. I had thought they were called Type 38 Short Rifles
That's definitely cool

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Threadly reminder: Long Jap gats best Jap gats

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>>34782954
This guy gets it.

>>34781325
Norwegian Krag because I'm already reloading 6.5x55

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I just spent 30 minutes with my dad trying to get a possum out of our garage, then when we got it out, I executed it with my Nagant. No wild animal will shit and piss in my dads garage again. I love father-son bonding time.

>>34781325
M95, I need a mannlicher.

>>34783865
Nigger don't kill oppossums. They eat ticks and keep skunks and the like away. Capture live and rehome.

>>34783874
Yeah we normally would have, but it was sneaking into our garage and eating our cats food. and using their litterbox. It was too far gone and addicted to cat food to just leave alone at that point. We've got more than one so it doesn't matter that much anyway.

>>34782485
Yes. At least offer him a fair price if you want it.

>>34783894
>eating our cats food. and using their litterbox
That is adorable.

>>34783874
Also, I have a picture somewhere of the possum eating out of the same cat bowl as a skunk at the same time, a foot away from our glass back door, with all of us standing there in plane view, yelling at them both to go away.

It was too comfortable around people.

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>>34784231
Post it.

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>>34784242
I couldn't find it, but have this picture of my 13 year old doggo Nyah. Poor thing isn't very mobile anymore

>>34781325
Definitely the Krag, if only so there's a higher chance for myself grabbing a long M95.

>>34782444
There was a guy selling one of these near me for $300, good condition too. I still regret not getting it.

Looks like the M95 wins, so that's what I'll be getting.

Any of you guys wanna jump on a cheap 1912 Krag, here is your chance.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/675002449

>>34784353
Gonna get it in x50 or x56? I'm really itching for one in x56 myself

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>>34784513
8x56 unfortunately. I hate caliber conversions but it'll have to do until I can find the one I really want.

Also just agreed to get a Belgian 1889 from the seller of the Krag. So good day for me.

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>>34784353
>Looks like the M95 wins, so that's what I'll be getting.
Good.

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>>34784789
I need a long rifle so bad it hurts

>>34784353

>$1000
>Cheap

Look at mister moneybags over here.

>>34784806
Gunbroker had one

bought my first mosin feels good. 1943 izhevsk with matching numbers.

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>>34784922
For a 1912 it is.

>>34784806
>>34784933
I'm looking at a long in 8x56 now but it's already up to $400, and as a collegefag it's just too much to spend right now.
I've also got my eye on a 1911 long rifle for $300, but I really shouldn't. It's so hard not to though

>>34785290

My first thought on reading that was a long rifle version of the Colt 1911...

Parents got a new patio and they're now on vacation, I think today (after class) is gonna be the day that I take a new set of pics.

Too bad I won't get my FAMAS until Wednesday.

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For a guy who doesn't like Mausers I sure have bought a lot of them this year.

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Bros I just walked out of my LGS with this, all matching Ruskie for $365. Even had the sling and cleaning kit. How'd I do? Syrups pls no bully.

>>34785916

I haven't had the chance to shoot any of mine yet, so I can't say if I'll like them. I don't have a special love for Mausers, but since there's a LOT of them that fit my particular collecting plans I'm gonna end up with a lot of them.

Already have 2 Yugos and a CKS, need an '03 Springfield, K98k, Wz 29, Vz. 24 and probably an FN 24.

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>>34785961
The only one I've enjoyed firing has been my Kar98az. All the others have been uninspiring.

>>34785959

Pretty fucking good. That's less than a Chink SKS goes for these days.

>>34786001
I about shit a fucking brick when I saw the price. This store doesn't deal in surplus very much so they probably didn't have much of an idea of a price range.

>>34786032

It was probably "Eh, it's slavshit, SKSes went for about $350 last I saw."

>>34765166
What's the price range for Chinese broomhandle mausers? Really want one since I already have a T53 and T56 and want to add some earlier pieces to the collection

>>34765166
I can't help but feel like a Mannlicher hipster for obsessing over owning an M95 long rifle for at least 5 years now, when it seems like a pretty recent happening for everybody and their brother to be on the hunt for one. Fuck off, I need it first.

Funnily enough, I did own one for a bit, but was mislabeled and turned out to be in 8.15×46r, which is fucking unobtainium as it gets, so it went away unfortunately.

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>>34786221

>Selling your 'surp without replacements

>>34786285
I was broke as fuck at the time and unemployed.

>>34786316

Sell your body instead.

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>>34765166
How much do RC Mausers go for nowadays anyway?

>tfw just saw one advertised for $969.00.
>is this real /k/?

>>34786636
I've seen them as low as $400 recently, but for decent ones you're looking at $450-$500

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>>34786636
400 to 600, though there are rare ones out there like any other mauser variant.

Why does the MAS-49 have a big plastic charging handle? Is that aftermarket or actually part of the gun?

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>>34786951
It's original. And they used plastic for cost and production speed.

What's a decent price for a Yugo captured Kar98k? I'm looking at one for $325, seems good as far as I can tell

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>>34784806
>>34785290
What's with the boners for M95 long all of a sudden?

>>34784993
>first mosin feels good.
>1943 izhevsk
You now belong to a statistically-significant segment of the population.

>>34787206
>What's a decent price for a Yugo captured Kar98k? I'm looking at one for $325, seems good as far as I can tell
Nowadays that's a perfectly fair price if the serial numbers match (bolt match at least is important).

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>>34784993
Pics when?

For the guys with Mausers, what's your experience with surplus? I saw a blog post by Ian on Forgotten Weapons, saying that most of the Turk surplus was poorly stored, and as such, the powder degraded. He said it should be fine in a bolt action like mine, but could be dangerously overpressure for semi-auto stuff.

Anyone else use surplus? Greek, yugo, romanian, turkshit?

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>>34787513
M75 Yugo is top tier ammo. Egyptian is pretty good, but getting hard to find

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Is it sad that the only thing I plan to do when I get a new job is only buy food, pay rent, and get more milsurp?

>>34787823
Yeah, you forgot ammo in your list

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Got some pokies for the (gender) neutrals.

>>34787513
>most of the Turk surplus was poorly stored, and as such, the powder degraded.

Has not been my experience, but I've only shot about 700 rounds of it. What people don't understand is that not all military 8x57 loads are the same; Turkish surplus is a clone of the older 1905 German S-Patrone cartridge, which was designed to launch a 154gr flat base spitzer bullet at ~3000fps. It uses a flake powder that burns slowly to maximize velocity from a 740mm. Pretty much all 8x57 autoloaders aren't designed to work with this kind of pressure curve, so you get excessive force input into the moving parts and the springs can't sufficiently buffer it, leading to damage.

Also the brass is old (annealing wasn't introduced until 1949) and sometimes cracks, and in any rifle that opens its own breech this is no bueno.

My long Mausers LOVE Turkish surplus, and I have also had great experiences with Yugo, Egyptian, Portuguese (all 198gr) and Israeli (170gr) stuff. Romanian surplus is OK too, just lots of residue in my experience, and the worst smell of the bunch.

>>34787823
Life is like a sewer: what you get out of it depends on what you put into it.

>>34787823
What else is there to do?

>>34788071
Occasional sodomy

>>34787823
I've been searching for a new job almost exclusively to buy new milsurp. I'm also getting sorta sick of my current job, so that kind of helps drive the search.

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>>34788071
>tfw rusty new SMLE and SG.98 bayonet to clean up
Looks like my weekends are booked solid for the foreseeable future.

>>34788117
>perpetual sodomy
FTFY

>>34788117
>Occasional

Just got off the phone with my car people. Its gonna take $1500 to fox the fucking gas tank

is it bad that my first thought right away was how much ammo/surp i coulda bought with that?

am i past the point of no return?

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>>34788832
We all are past that point boss.

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A sad day /msg/, i just got back from the gunsmith with my first surp, a No.4 enfield. Shes not in good shape to fire :(

>>34788956
>No.4 enfield. Shes not in good shape to fire :(
How is that possible? most No4s are in pretty ok condition. did you get it from a super bubba or was it converted into like fucking 7mm Remington?

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>>34788832
That was my first response when my older brother told me he dropped $500 on Magic:The Gathering cards last week. He looked at me weird and told me my obsession with milsurp was a bad way to spend money. Moron.

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>>34788975
Im not too bright, i got home after the purchase and i noticed the rifle was marked DP, or drill purpose. Gunsmith said that the Headspace was all fucked and the bore was worse than it looked. he reccomended i dont fire it, or if so, at my own risk. i posted pics earlier in the thread about it if you want to see her.

>>34788832
All the guns I want basically cost that much

>>34776259
It's already been cut down to be a riot length takedown. I personally think that's pretty cool, like an old school version of the riced-out tacticool guns we have today. All I would put on is is a nice leather cheekpad/shell holder and a leather sling. That's a gun to be loved.

>>34788956
Sucks buddy. Better to learn it that way though than the alternative.

>>34788832
>$1500 to fix the fucking gas tank

Buy a beater car for 700.

Anywhere make new bolts butterknife bolts for Gew.88s?

>>34789012
Live and learn anon, maybe sell it to recoup part of your money, or keep it as a neato wall decor

>>34789138
No, maybe some niche company in Germany or something

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>>34789112
Yeah, true, true. It was my first gun purchase so i suppose ill have to wait a little longer to put lead downrange than i hoped. In the end, all a learning experience i guess.

>>34789141
I guess this isnt a bad time to advertise, ive got 210 rounds of .303 and a roloading kit for sale if anyone wants it. since im not gonna be shooting

>>34789141
>I guess this isnt a bad time to advertise, ive got 210 rounds of .303
What brand/kind/headstamp

>>34789182
Not home right now, ill check as soon as i get back. I do remember they all had "GB" on the bottom, or at least most of them

Gonna go take some new family photos, posting in a bit.

>>34787823

You are among friends/enablers.

That's a significant part of my intentions with getting a better job.

>>34788832

I'm making plans to buy a new(er) car next spring and the effects on my 'surp is one of the top concerns.

>>34789168

How much?

>>34788832
For $1500 You can put a decent down payment on a nice new car.

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>>34789168
Keep the reloading shit. Not like it's gonna go bad.

>>34789221
I'm out of the country on Holiday, when i get home i will count how many i have, and get the headspace markings squared away. with the reloading kid included? ill have to see exactly how much

>>34789241

But then you have to pay for the rest of the car. That's the balancing act to consider.

>>34789254
good point, though i dont know if ill be getting another enfield anytime soon, im in college so i basically used most of my saved money from the summer for this recent purchase, wont get get another gun until maybe around december time (probably get an SKS, or something). dont know exactly what i would keep em for. unless theres something i dont know about it all.

>>34789012
Keep it as decor, or part it out, or buy a lightly sporterized no.4 and swap parts. Live and learn. Everyone who has bought lots of guns has overpaid for something at least once.

Thread limit coming soon soooo......

ONE MINUTE TO DROP

>>34787252
Battlefield WW1

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GREEN LIGHT
JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP

new thread up and running
>>34789439

>>34789542
Fuck off nigger there's still 18 posts left

>>34789168
>>34789254
>>34789267
Keep the reloading equipment cos chances are you'll own another .303 rifle sooner than later

>>34789574
A storms coming soon here and I won't be able to make a thread because I'm on satellite internet so I made one a whopping 18 posts early

>>34789168
ill buy the kit if your anywhere near chicago

>>34789664
>Made one early.
>Linked the wrong one anyway

>>34789807
Fug, here it is
>>34789430

>>34789664
Kys Nigger. Someone else can make a thread it doesn't have to be you.

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>armslist finds

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>>34772202
I have one but they are a real pain to own and you never fire it. the shooters kit make it hate most ammo.

all in all would buy again. also rip wallet.

>>34790140
Except nobody did until me