What gun would you choose for bear protection? Be reasonable,

>>34743528

What kind of bear are we talking about? For black bear pretty much anything from 10mm up will do. For brown I'd want a .45-70

>>34743528
first of ; a RIFLE in a caliber ranging to 7,62x39 for the least powerfull up to 300winchester mag

if handgun well : 10mm or 7x62x25 tok should be the bare min.
or you know fuck huge wheelgun in 454, 30-30, 44marlin, 500s&w etc

>>34743974
Adding to long gun options 12 gauge slug. Not sure on the tok option or 30-30 out of pistol but yeah 10mm or proper magnum wheelgun

>>34743549
>>34743528
>muh revolver meme
Just get a standard 15+ round 9mm semi-auto you autistic fucks. Bears aren't bulletproof, shoot them once in the head or 3-4 times and they drop.
If you can't kill one with 15 shots you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

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Black Bear: 9mm and bonded 5.56/7.62x39/.30-30. Total memes if you have a firearm desu. I have scared off lots of black bears with just yelling/screaming. Many killed to standard service loads even down to the .38 Special.


Brown Bear: 10mm and 7.62NATO Battle Rifle with bonded .308.

Kodiaks/Polar: 10mm and .458SOCOM AR, .45-70Govt Marlin 1895, AA .338 Lapua Magnum, or Benelli M3/M4 with Brenneke Black Magic slugs.

Heavy bonded bullets through a semi-auto or quick repeater are best for bear protection. Protection is different than hunting. I would bump everything up for brownies in a hunting scenario since you generally don't want 20+ holes in your bear pelt.

t. bear hunter and live in bear country

pic very related

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>>34743528
Duh.

>>34743603
The fuck you on about? For black bear a loud clap is enough.

>>34744312
Ever shot one? I'll take my chances with the bear.

>>34743528
Start with 10mm autism and go up.

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>>34743528

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>>34743528

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>>34743528
The only option i have thatll stop a bear

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https://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2017/06/bella-twin-22-used-to-take-1953-world.html

>>34743528
12ga alternating slug and 000 buck

.338win mag, 45-70 or 375 H&H are the most common up here in AK

>>34744146
This ridiculous love for 10mm, putting it in the same category as any other round you're listing as comparable is wildly misrepresenting its capability.

10mm is equal to or outperformed by .357 Magnum, and 10mm is easily outperformed by nearly any centerfire rifle round in existence.

Bottom line: it could be a big bear stopper, but it doesn't belong on that list as if it's "the" handgun bear stopper round.

>>34744848
the fact that that poster also gushed over the 458 socom meme proves hes talking out of his ass

12 ga slug. Shortest length possible.

>>34743528
I'm going to get shit on for this, but I would honestly go for a +p 9mm wadcutter. Shot placement is more important than stopping power, and taking quick follow up shots is easier with a 9. Other acceptable bear killing rounds are .357 SIG, 7.62x25, and 5.7x28.

>>34744848
But Anon what if I don't want a .357 revolver

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>>34744943

>>34743528
12 gauge pump

>>34744848

15 rounds of hard-cast 10mm is better than 6 rounds of typical revolver cartridges.

>>34744856
Hurrr, .458SOCOM is a meme, and 10 rounds of quasi-.45-70 is a meme.

Both of you chucklefucks have never hunted or lived in bear country. PROTECTION is as many rounds as fast as you can when a bear actually charges.

>>34744936

None of those are good for anything larger than a black bear.

Also, >5.7x28mm

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10mm

>>34744943
Then you're wrong

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>>34747645
>15 rounds of hard-cast 10mm is better than 6 rounds of typical revolver cartridges.

This is 15 +1 10mm 220 hardcast vs 6 .357.
Choose wisely.

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Reposting. Just got some 220gr Xtreme Penetrator bullets and 260gr gas check hard cast for for the 44, doing 1450/1300ft/s respectively.

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>>34749384
Easy to remove

>>34743528
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

>>34744144
this. you ain't wrong, there's a video on YouTube of a Russian cop dropping a brown bear with a makarov. makarov basically shoots a .380 with what, 8 shots?? this was of course in super close range, like 3 ft away from the bear.
but yes they aren't like bulletproof, they bleed like anything else. A wonder 9mm with some hot loads will knock the fuck out of it if you mag dump.

>>34744144
>>34751022
Are you dumb faggots ambushing bears? If you're defending yourself from a bear, it's because it's fucking attacking you. Good luck popping off 15 9mm rounds with a bear mauling your ass.

If OP is paying, I'd take a Fuchs Mokume in .470 Capstick and a Magnum Research BFR in .45-70 because the local authorities won't let me get one here.
If I'm paying, a Blaser R8 in either 9.3x62 or .375 H&H and a Dan Wesson Alaska Guide Special

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ill take a guide gun in 45-70 pls

>>34751440
i'm not gay but the aesthetics of that long bullet and its suppository-shaped tip about to be lovingly inserted into that chamber makes my buttpussy moist

>>34752499
did you know you're supposed to insert suppositories BLUNT-end first so the clenching of the sphincter once the finger has been removed pushes the suppository deeper inside? So it's NOT like a rifle bullet (Unless you do that box-of-truth MEME of pulling bullets out of the Cartridgazine and pushing them back in backwards and seeing if the accuracy is affected)

>>34743528
This is my Glock 40. This is my problem-solver. 10mm is best millimetre.

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>>34752427

>>34743528
ever fire a .500s&w pistol? i have one for this exact reason, never fired it for years until 1 day think fuck it, decide to take it to the range. fucking thing nearly took my damn finger off, couldnt fire more than 3 rounds before my trigger finger was missing a chunk and bleeding. that thing is no fucking joke

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>>34743603
Black bears, you say?

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>>34753006

>>34744144
The issue isnt being able to kill it with 15 shots Its being able to kill it with two or three you cheeky fellow. Its the question of being able to shoot the bear anywhere in the torso instead of just in the head. Its better, smarter more capable people with 100 times more experience than you consistently choose something for a reason.

See: the only times you would actually be in danger you don't have time for 15 shots you have time for a few, and thats the line between being mauled or not mauled. Regardless of if you get afraid of a random bear and mag dump 15 rounds into it

Let me describe fatal bear attacks: you are on a trail you and dozens other are used to walking or biking safely. A grizzly bear ambush charges you from the side, by the time you notice it its running 25 miles an hour, this is not a test charge, it has every intent to kill you. This is not tv shows where you see the bear 100 yards away and you stand your ground and it wanders off. The bear is not going to territorially maul you or swipe at you, its jaws are going to crush your neck or torso and kill you immediately. There is every possibility you wont be shooting the bear until its mauling you have fun with 9mm. Alternatively the other times they wake up in the middle of the night and THE BEAR IS ALREADY TEARING APART THEIR TENT alternatively THE BEAR LITERALLY BREAKS INTO YOUR HOUSE TO KILL YOU. Hope you can tack that grizzle in the head with 9mm laying in bed and kill it.

>>34743528
On a realistic level if im hiking in bear country id probably want something along the lines of a .44 mag, .454 casull or even a 500. Id probably go with a .44 because its more controllable than the other two. Preferably in about in a 6 inch bbl.

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>>34743528

>Everyone's arguing about using handguns because they're fucking faggots

Stop being an autist and carry a rifle. I'd choose an AR or a PTR-91. Either would work, but .308 a lot more. Realistically any gun in 5.56, 7.62x39, or .308 would work just fine and a lot more than any pistol caliber.

Inb4 "it's too heavy", then maybe you should consider not being a pussy and sling it over your back when you hike.

>>34744848

10mm is closer to .41 magnum, it outclasses 357 in every conceivably way besides velocity, but when you want to hit as much vitals as possible you want a bigger bullet

Smith and wesson 500 magnum

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Unironically this

>>34753251
>>34743528
>>34743549

Anyone who would reccomend a short barrel revolver is probably a noguns fud retard

>>34753116
For pistol cannot criticize your choices as they are along with what I would do. But money and laws can get in the way so I will use whatever I can carry with a preference for 12ga slug, 45-70, or fml compound bow with broadheads depending on the season

>>34753282
Honestly still trying to figure out the purpose of snub nosed magnums over 357, probably fun in the challenge and all but it seems a bit below optimal in configuration

>>34753405
>Be you
>Surrounded by rabid bears
>You have laying beside you a shitty obrez and a glorious m134
>What do you chose?

Sawed-off Auto 5 with #000 buckshot

>>34753282
.500 will blow a hole through a bear

>>34753162
I like where you're head is at but fuck carrying a 10 lb unergonomic HK91 descendant with a bad trigger pull

I would opt for an AR10 or some wunder battle rifle like a Scar for weight reasons

>>34753530
Hiking vs camping, on the first as light as I can go and still have a viable option on the second whatever I feel like bringing as long as it is able to put enough lead on target to remove yogi. For where I am in the northeast 45-70 tends to be great

>Alaskan Wildlife Trooper here

12ga with slugs is all you need.

>>34753801
Can I use my dick instead?

What's a solid 10mm for someone with smaller hands? I want something that my gf and i can both practice with

>>34753006
LMAO, thanks for the first morning laugh

>>34753869
probably a 1911 but desu the best 10mm is likely the Glock 20

I personally want to get a Glock 40 for that long slide

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>>34749384

Live in Ohio. No bears here. If i was going to bear country im bringing my AK with a 75rd drum.

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>>34743528
Marlin 1895

>>34754734
>Not marlin's 12ga bolt action
shit taste in bearkillers

>>34754732
Um. See black bear scat all the time innawoods and I live in N.E. Ohio.

>>34754744
Licking county. No bears here.

>>34744340

>le I'm so knowledgeable about nature meme
>le thats why i don't need a gun
>le I'm extra manly for dealing with dangerous thing without a gun

Black bears kill people as well, look it up. I'm sure their loud screaming and shouting didn't deteer it from killing them.

Yeah making lound noises TENDS to work. That's the keyword.

Also...

>le rack the shotgun sound and the home intruders will dial 911 and turn themselves in

>>34754724

Us it to kneecap the person next to you so you can get away from the bear

>>34755775
>Reddit

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>>34749384

They should get rid of it but it really doesn't matter.

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this guy is always on me when I go out in the mountains alone

>>34744144
>head
t. someone who doesnt know the first thing about killing bears

>>34749934
That Airlite is a dream to carry but forget ever shooting one. Would not recommend.

>>34752836
How does this work? Does the bolt handle actuate both bolts? Is it a monolithic bolt with two bolt faces? 4chan may never know.

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>>34757481
The bolt handle actuates both bolts as I understand it. The gun feeds from a single dual feed magazine. It got invented after a guy was charged by three elephants at once.
While it is a fairly specific scenario, I cannot think of any other gun I'd rather have in such a situation.
>4chan may never know
I say we round up the self proclaimed richfriends and pester them to buy one, if only for bragging rights.
Hell, they even make one in .22, it'd make a crazy fun plinking rifle, or be real handy if you found three foxes feeding on your bait some day.

>>34758364
You weren't kidding. These guns are incredible. Imagine having such wealth that you could treat these as we would any beater rifle.

http://fuchsfineguns.com/index.php/fine-guns/

I had a thread like this once given your in somewhere like Montana, get a Blackhawk or some shit

>>34743974
Shut up, eurofag. You know nothing.

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Soft Point .30-06 out of a semi-auto was what we had on hand for bears when I was up in Alaska. Seemed like it could kill anything that dared to move.

>>34755811
This made my day thanks anon

>>34743528
Ideally I'd have a semi-auto .308.

If I'm stuck with a handgun, then probably a .460 Rowland G21SF conversion.

>>34744943
So buy an autoloading pistol in .45 super, .445winmag, or .460 rowland.

Or buy one of the rare meme autoloaders in .50AE, .44automag, .440 Corbon, .50GI, .357mag, .41mag, .357max, etc.

>>34743528
>What gun would you choose for bear protection?

.444 Marlin. .44 mag for personal carry.

No holds barred mode?

M9 Flamethrower. In lieu of some nasty mix of napalm, I'd fill the tanks with sesame oil, so I could have delicious char-broiled bear.

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>>34743528

That's easy, OP. 10mm will generally get the job done.

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>>34743974
You know what? It really pisses me off that 7.62x25 isn't more popular. I want a modern double stack with a fixed or rotating barrel and a pic rail.

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>>34743528
i like these because they looks cool

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>>34743528
>Be reasonable