The Summer of the MDR

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Here is the first MDR owned with Nick Young

>>34740647
>ISIS salute
Dropped. Youll get no money from me, Mohamed

>>34740686
this, what were you thinking?

>>34740958
Who is that random white guy in the picture on the right?

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>>34740628
>bullpup
>the future

>>34740979

Guy who bought the first one.

You know, like the the post says.

>>34740628
>Bullpup
>SCAR killer

Wow, it's fucking nothing.

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>>34740628
>Bullpupmeme
Now the Scar will be just fine.

>>34740647
MDRfags confirmed for fat manlets.

>>34740628
Until I see one in person, whether at the range or on a gun store shelf, I consider it vaporware.

>release one single rifle
>IT'S HERE!!!!!!!!1
You blind faggorts said the same thing about the prototypes.

>>34740628
Has anyone confirmed that this guy is actually a customer and not just an employee or family member of an employee?

Normally I wouldn't even give it a second thought, but with how terribly mismanaged the MDR has been you can't really be sure.

>>34742745
don't worry. I enhanced the photo, ran a facial recognition scan and am currently running a backtrace on him now. we will know the true identity of this fucker within the hour.

>>34741267
The only comparison between the MDR and the SCAR is the price.

>>34742769
>internet hate machine

Now we find out if they can release them faster than Kel-Tec releases their stuff.

it's gonna take months or years to clear the backlog

>>34743050
6-8 months is what they claim, so MDRs should be hitting store shelves by Q3 2021

>>34743014
>RFB has been out NINE years

>>34743610
How many RDB have hit the market?

>>34743660
Several thousand, I've got one.

>>34743733
Nice. Fucking jelly.

Why do fags hate on bullpups?

>>34743812
They go for 1000-1100 all day long on GB my dude

>>34743821
Not available in my country yet.

>>34743835
Ah, pitty

>>34743819
Because most people don't get into gunfights in phonebooths often enough to justify the ergonomic compromises inherent in the design.

>>34743850
Pity*
>ftfy

>>34743936
Petty*

>>34740628

It looks like a Kek-Tec RFB, Tavor, and FN Scar were blended together.

[spoiler] it's shit [/spoiler]

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>>34742803
I kek'd... and then I got sad.

Bullpups are a scam.

>Here is this rifle that is 50% plastic and we are going to charge you 150% more

KEK

>>34744005
Have you even the faintest idea of how much it costs to make a mold?

>>34743900
Yeah, but I don't get into gunfights period, so a longer barrel in a shorter rifle is worth the reloading retraining for me.

>>34740647
>XXL Cargo shorts
This will forever be synonymous with mdr ownership

>>34744014
Mold grows all over bread so I think it shouldn't cost much.

>>34744014
Ask any of the kajillion pistol makers that use a plastic frame and charge like $400 for a pistol, dipshit.

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>>34744031

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>>34743660
Plenty. And at roughly 1/3 the price of a MDR.
>>34743819
The poor fox and the expensive grapes.

>>34744056
No longer so expensive with the RDB.

>>34744071
$800 is still too much for a poorfag.

>>34740958
The single index finger probably signifies that this is their first rifle sold to their first customer.

>>34744049
Machining the molds for a pistol frame is still going to be leagues cheaper than a rifle receiver with integrated stock and handguards. The post-processing on it is going to be costly as hell, also.

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>>34740647
>EMMM-DEGG-AARRR

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>>34744026
Is it? Most shooting happens under 300m, which can easily be accomplished by a 13" SCAR, which is short and light enough for all but the closest quarters.

>>34744256
Yea but your argument is faster reloads. I'd take better 5.56 velocities, which is critical for 5.56 to function properly, over a .5 second faster reload. M193 ammo will ice pick ALOT at 300 yards out of an 13" barrel. Not so much out of something like a 20" AUG which is the same length as a 13" Scar.

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>>34744330
I agree that bullpups make sense for 5.56 and other velocity-thirsty cartridges that suffer in short barrels, but one of the main selling points of the MDR is its native .308 support, which is why I compared it to the SCAR-H CQC.
The MDR doesn't bring much to the table for 5.56 shooters when the RDB already exists.

>>34743610
RFB is an unreliable design, they need to make an RDB in 308.

>>34744031
God dammit anon, I have coffee in my nose now

>>34744419
They need to accurize the RDB. I wonder why the fuck it's 3MOA.

>>34743900
>ergonomic compromises

Hahahaha calm down buddy it's just a magazine well moved 4-5 inches back.

>>34744005
>Muh plastic!!!
>I've never carried a rifle longer than picking it up off the table at a range, firing it, then setting it back down again

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>>34744419
I've had no problems with mine, other than it not liking surplus mags.

>>34744388
>A S T H E T I C S

Imo thats about it, that and easy caliber changes. Desert Tech is also known for quality, while kel-tec.... not as much. I still think bullpups are grossly underrated. Im waiting for the F90 Atrax myself.

>>34744425
Because it's a kel tec...

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>>34744433
And a stubby little handguard with no room for tactical shit, and a 15"+ length of pull.
Not to mention the noise issues of having the bore that much closer to your face and the ejection port right next to your ear.

>>34744494
>Not to mention the noise issues of having the bore that much closer to your face and the ejection port right next to your ear.
It isn't really any louder. Not to a noticeable degree at most

>>34744056
>The poor fox and the expensive grapes.

Not an argument unless you can elaborate.

>>34744330
>I'd take better 5.56 velocities, which is critical for 5.56 to function properly

>Still falling for "muh velocity" meme
>Doesn't know what Mk318, M855A1, TAP, etc. is

Memepupfags really should be gassed.

>>34744084
>still too much for poorfag
I keep forgetting the abject depths that poorfaggotry can reach.

>>34744494
>VHS
when you cherry pick the bullpup with the worst LOP...

>>34745048
>Not an argument unless you can elaborate

If you need an explanation you're either an actual public school dropout or cannot refute and are intentionally obfuscating.

Either way, you should feel shame.

>>34745048
Yea because those are the most commonly found rounds. Sure kiddo, the fact is that 90% of all 5.56 ammo is heavily reliant on velocities. Its not a meme just because you say it is.

>>34745048
>Muh tac-reload meme.
Bullet velocity is ALWAYS gonna be much more important then shaving .5 seconds off your reload.

>>34740628
>MDR
>another fucking meme gun

So it's American version of the AUG for 2 - 2.5K?

Available in the same calibers as AR and AK platform...

Are you people even trying any more?

>>34748175
What is your legendary non-meme gun, epic memester? Is it suitable for the refined taste of middle schoolers such as you and I?

>>34743819

It's just uncomfortable to reload.

>>34748505
The same two platforms that have have tens of millions of rifles circulating world wide. Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel Mr. Potato Head?

>>34744256
I have zero interest in the 5.56 version, and I don't want to be anywhere near a 13" .308 gun. Honestly, I'd prefer it with a 20" barrel and just take it out to ring a 6" gong at 500m. Maybe a hog one day.

>>34745048
>not an argument unless you can elaborate
No, you're just a moron.

>i don't understand metaphors

>>34745461
This guy's not a moron.

>>34740628
ill believe it when i gets to the customer. not a second sooner.
their bullshit delays aside, i hope its a great success

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>>34744463
The only reason anyone ever has a problem with the RFB is he's either too stupid to properly perform maintenance, particularly lubrication, and he's too stupid to properly adjust the gas setting.

>>34748690
Wtf is with the thread right by the gas adjustment? Looks pointless. And wtf length of pull seems outrageous.

>>34744419
>>34744463

Mine works just fine too. Doesn't have any problems cycling unless you under-gas it.

Gets a solid 1.5MOA average with PMC 147, 1.3 with Sellior and Bellot 147, and 0.85 with a load I've just started making myself.

I did have to send it back to Kel-Tec for a new barrel after a few years, but they were quick about it and you can buy most other replacement parts and do it yourself if anything else wears out.

>>34748734
The threading is so you can attach a small quad rail section. So yeah, mostly pointless unless you're an accessories fag. The LOP is somewhere around 14 inches, so it's pretty standard.

>>34748734
It's used to attach a quad rail. It changes barrel harmonics, but not that much because the barrel is already rigidly pinned in two places.

>>34748734
>length of pull
Not a real issue on rifles with pistol grips unless you're built like a child.

>wtf is a thing i'm ignorant of so i'll just assume it's pointless
It's a barrel accessory thread, so it's the opposite of pointless.

Now that we've confirmed you're an ignorant, butthurt faggot, kindly fuck off.

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This is now an RFB thread.

>>34742769

Well done. Consequences will never be the same.

How much for a used RDB?

>>34748949
Why didn't they just make the forend longer and put mlok on it? Who the fuck makes guns with quad rails these days? Then again who the fuck makes guns that screw together?

>>34749158
Honestly, that shit befuddles me to no end. I'd kill for exactly what you just described. More top rail would be nice too.

>>34748949
That looks pretty pimp.

>>34749158
Did MLOK even exist when the RFB came out?
I suppose it would be fair to ask why Kel-Tec hasn't released an MLOK handguard for it since then, but the answer to that one is fairly obvious.

>>34749218
I think the spirit of the question was more why the screw on section instead of a longer fore end with some sort of attachment method.

>>34748826
Sorry you bought this POS, guy. Enjoy your subpar bullpup.

>>34740979
Nigga that's Brigham Young

>>34749276
I quite enjoy my iteration of this bullpup.

What is your par exactly?

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>>34749199
Shoots pretty pimp too.

>>34749481
unf

I'd rather the rdb tho.

>>34749195
The MDR has mlok...

I wish the MSBS bullpup was still going to be a thing. Killed all these options in the features department, other than being side ejecting. The MDR will have to do, if kel tec doesn't announce a 308 RDB.

>>34749218
It existed when the RDB came out, yet still no mlok.

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>>34744014
>>34744098
Injection molding is going to always be cheaper than milling. Initial startup is a bitch but once your going you can produce product very fast.

>>34744463
The very least they could do is change it to feed out of AR10 mags.

>>34743819
For me it's the universally shit triggers, I've owned 2 that supposedly had the "best" triggers of all bullpups (FS2000 and Tavor with Geissele Super Sabra) and they are literally worse than a milspec AK trigger. Heavy, mushy, gritty, and long.

Accuracy has been a sore issue for some, the Tavor, X95, RFB, and FS2000 have exhibited mediocre to piss poor accuracy. I was generally happy with my FS2000's accuracy (1.8-2.0 MOA 5-shot groups) but my Tavor was dogshit bad (6 MOA or worse 5 shot groups), the RFB is par for the course for "battle rifles" at 2-2.5 MOA, etc. Meanwhile even a bargain bin AR can do 2 MOA and an AR at the same price point of even the cheapest of the bullpups will be sub-MOA.

Ergos and reloads were fine for me with mine.

They're extremely difficult to shoot well from prone or off a bench because there's literally nowhere to rest the rifle on anything and the mag has a tendency to be the first or only point of contact with the ground.

>>34749608
Haha, but I've been able to shoot my RFB since 2011.

Maybe once the MDR actually hits the market in force you can make genuine comparisons, but for now (unless you're that one dude in the picture), she's just a dream competing against my well broken in rifle.

>>34749721
It's ok, I have other guns. I'm glad I didn't waste my money on something second rate.

>>34749697
Well spoken and well reasoned.

... but I disagree.

Now I can only speak for my RFB. I have no other bullpup. That said, the trigger is good... 8/10 for a non- precision rifle, I can get 1.5 MOA from the right factory ammo (disregarding reloads for now), and with a 20 round magazine you can still get plenty low to the ground.

>>34749775
Incisive, but I'll take it. Come back when yours gets in. I'm genuinely interested to hear how it turns out.

>>34740647
Desert Tech confirmed for ISIS.

>>34750086
Waging jihad by crushing our hopes for 5 years now.

>>34749661
In 2007 FAL mags were the cheap and readily available ones. Things change a decade later sadly.

>>34749481
Jesus, I've never gotten a group like that out of mine.

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>>34749811
RFB actually has a very specifically made trigger that places the sear directly above the trigger. Most other bullpups have a bar that extends back and interfaces with the sear that is beneath the hammer.

So if other bullups had the RFB's trigger, they would have a lot better feel. Kudos to KelTec for having a nice design.

>>34749627
For something the size of a rifle, especially with so many small details, the cost of the mold can be hundreds of thousands. The point where it becomes more cost-effective is fucking huge. I they don't already have military orders, they may never actually reach that point.

>>34743900
>ergonomic compromises
You're obviously just a keyboard warrior who's never handled a decent bullpup. They have much better balance than standard rifles, and anything else comes down to a particular rifles features.

>>34744005
>Hurr durr plastic
The 70's are over grandpa, polymer is proven. Go take some viagra and jack off to your M1 garand.

>>34740628
I really want this gun to do well. Idk if I played too much halo as a kid but this thing gives me a stiffy. That being said. I don't expect this thing to do well. Too much bullshit with all the delays and the hype. They're precision rifle guys too which makes me think it's going to really accurate, but overcomplicated and unreliable.

>>34743660
Just finger fucked one yesterday.

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>>34750963
I didn't either until I started reloading, but PMC 147gr gave me around 1.5MOA

>>34753356
What app is that?

>>34740647

LMAO.

Those little Cotten Hill legs

>>34753406
Range Buddy

It's free!

>>34753493
Danke.

>>34740628
The summer of the MDR was 3-4 years ago.

Not interested until they release the SBR 300blk version.

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>>34744031

>>34755150
Memes upon memes.

>>34756287
Integrally suppressed 300BLK bullpup when?

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>>34745048
>>34744056
I understand, the fox will never afford the grapes because he can't get a job because he is a small animal that cannot work.

>>34749697
I wonder how markmanship standards for bullpup militaries compares to regular ones

>>34742161
this

>>34757535
no it's a story you idiot

>>34743959
*Potty

This things gonna be like the ARC/Masada all over again.

>>34749158
So you can access the adjustable gas block

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>>34757535
Hahahaha.

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>>34740628
>bullpup
>SCAR is history

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>>34758083
I'm fucking glad someone got that

Cough, cough
>>34757736
> The joke
> Your head

>>34756287
>suppressed rifle under 26" w/ good terminal ballistics
that's a meme now?

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>>34759219
I have yet to hear any good answers regarding where you're supposed to attach a weaponlight to this thing.

>>34757535
10/10.

>>34749276
Um, "wrong". Enjoy being a cum-drinking faggot. And you were already told to fuck off, so do so at this time.

>>34750963
It's your ammunition.

>>34759539
i'm not personally interested in a light but I'm sure there will be aftermarket foregrips to solve the problem should there be a demand. I suppose those slots are not MLOK?

fug, I just discovered the counterbalanced ak/mk-107 and now nothing else will fill this void in my heart

>>34759786
The balanced recoil system can't be that good, otherwise why would they put a muzzle brake on it?

>>34757652
Not really sure.

The bong qualification is similar to the US Army qualification, but they also get a fuckload more training before they have to actually pass it (1 full year) and pretty much cant get kicked out if they fail it (unlike the US where your first record qual happens a massive 5 weeks into the military).

Who the fuck else actually issues a bullpup in non-trivial numbers?

>>34759825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJs9sBBjLls

skip to 1:00 and tell me you didn't get wet

>>34740647

Oh my god he's like an incredibly obese toddler.

>>34740628

Can someone explain what the fuck the appeal of this piece of crap is supposed to be?

>>34759985
Seen it.
I stand by my previous statement.
I have no doubt that it mitigates a good deal of recoil, but a 5.45 with a muzzle brake is practically recoil-free to begin with.
It's an interesting idea, but it seems better suited to battle rifles and LMGs, i.e., everywhere except where it's actually being implemented.

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>>34740647
It's like he knew what his first customer would look like

>>34760089
16" .308 the same size as a MP5 and takes SR25 mags.

>>34741203
I think he meant the painting dipshit

>>34744026
>>34744330
>>34744433
Bullpups are gay and if you think the only thing that happened is the magwell moved you have no understanding of the gun.

Chamber is right in your fucking face and you have a LOOOOOONG trigger bar which equals a shitty trigger pull and a very basic component to break and instantly render your gun out of the fight

>>34749290
Lol, no its not.

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>>34757535
Fucking spat out my beer

>>34744049
>Glock can sell its pistols for cheap
>implying the MDR will ever sell a fraction as many units as Glock

Economies of scale, anon.

>>34757535
Lel
Thank you anon.

>>34759119
The joke would never go over his head. His reflexes are too fast. He would catch it.

>>34744425
Well M4s are like 4 moa soo....

>>34744005
Coventional mag placement is a scam. It's like sticking to bows and arrows when guns are available. Coventional mag placement is the nascar of mag placements. It's slow, outdated and oldfashioned.

>>34761031
>implying DT won't meme every police department into replacing their patrol rifles with MDRs, driving the cost down to $2000 or so

>>34743733
Any non-bull pup MDR's?

>>34749775
Hey dumbass he's had it since 2011 right, If you couldn't afford to buy an rfb just for fun then buy another bullpup six years later you shouldnt be talking buddy.

>>34750564
Muh fuckin sides. Kek