Got laughed at in a gun store for asking for a Walther

No I have a Walther PPQ and its really good
Thats a shitty gunstore OP

>>34733444
Sounds like a shitty store to me. PPQ is by most accounts one of the best poly framed handguns on the market.

>>34733444
Very shitty gun store. Get a walther. Buy one online and dont go back.

>>34733444
The only Walther I'd buy would be a P99. I was not impressed with my PPQ and it had a number of issues. That said, it's just as likely that I could have had those issues with a purchase from any manufacturer. I'm just not interested in another PPQ, it isn't the end-all-be-all gun that people make it out to be and it's trigger, while nice, is overrated.

However, having said that the shop sounds like a bunch of nit-wit assholes who just want to sell you what they want to sell you. I wouldn't give them a dime if that's how they were going to treat you. They should listen to what you want and not what they think you should want instead.

>>34733444
Sounds like a shitty store, Walther is a pretty well made gun for the most part. was this a store where 90% of the stock were glocks and generic ARs im guessing

>>34733462
>>34733472
>>34733476
>>34733495
It's the only "real" gun store in the whole region, like the closest other gun store is a few hours by car. I think what they meant is that they focus more on competition guns but then again, they had all kinds of glocks so not really sure what was their problem with Walther...

>>34733444
Not as bad as they made it sound. This might come as a surprise, but most gun store owners don't know shit about guns. They usually only have that one guy that knows his stuff.
The owners are either
>people that only sell deer furniture
Or
>the kind of people that'll put a bayonet on their glock and call you retarded for wanting a gun model that's not from this decade.

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>>34733444
The cologne proofed ones do have some problems (ccp and p22) but anything ulm is a solid gun. out of the thousands of rounds through my 9mm, the only problem I've ever had was when I was breaking in the jarvis barrel so I can hardly blame walther for that. honestly, when you get to wonder 9s, as long as its from a reputable manufacturer, its all personal preference.

>>34733444

She's not wrong about them being a bit overpriced for what they are but other than that she sounds like an idiot, Walthers aren't crap, it's a shitty gunstore either way and you should find one that will order you what you want if they don't have it.

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>>34733444
I have a similar story, OP
>Go to LGS
>approach counter
>a gruff man greets me,"what can I do you for?"
>"I-I w-would like a Walther p-please", I utter
>suddenly the man begins laughing
>"What are you?! A sissy?"
>at this point I had wet myself
>"p-p-people online s-said i-it was g-good..."
>my stuttering was becoming uncontrollable
>the man grabbed the store's phone
>pressing the intercom function, he then yells "come out of the back, guys. We got us one of those 'walther' pansies"
>employees begin streaming into the display room
>they hurl insults and laughter at me
>soon they began tossing liquids and garbage as well
>they chanted "Walther tramp!" in unison
>I ran out the door unable to take anymore abuse
>underwear soiled with my own urine and defecation
All in all, could have been worse. Went back the next day to buy a Glock at 20% premium.

>>34733566
But what about USPs? Aren't they overpriced too or are they really that good?

>>34733522
I don't care if you asked for a Taurus. Laughing in your customers' faces when they ask for a product usually isn't the best business practice. Just saying.

>>34733589
KEK

>>34733444
Idiots.

Walther's reputation is recovering from the dark period (late 90's-mid 00's iirc). The PPQ and PPS are very solid. I'm fickle and tend to buy and sell a lot of pistols. Can't seem to let go of my PPS classic. Apparently the M2 has a nicer trigger but I just love mine. Probably picking up a PPQ before the $100 rebate deal ends on 9/15.

>>34733599
I dunno. I just got a USP after wanting one for a long time, and I'm honestly pretty disappointed. My Sig has a much better trigger and was about the same price, and something about the HK just feels... Cheap. Especially at its price point. It's probably gonna get sold for something else pretty quick.

>>34733444
No. Even if they were this was very unprofessional.

>>34733444
No you didn't. Stop making stupid shit up.

>>34733444
>>34733462
This. I have two Walthers, a PK380 and CCP. I want the name and location of this shit store!

>>34733844
>I have two Walthers, a PK380 and CCP
Those products right there are what ruins Walthers reputation.

>>34733589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5boZdINItXI

>>34733855
IDGAF for your dumb ass opinion
Never had an issue with either

>>34733444
Was it Buds Gunshop? Because that sounds exactly like a normal experience in their retail store.

Walther is not a bad company. They had a rough spot in manufacturing and QC in the 90s, but they are well past that now. The PPQ is one of my favorite pistols. Think Glock with real ergonomics and a good trigger. That's really all they are. They're a nice middle of the road gun that's gonna last if you do your part. Go ahead and grab one of you want. Make your own opinions on it.

They carry a pistol and wouldn't recommend it to a customer? Good work retards.

The way to buy guns is thus, OP:

Walk into store.

Say "I am looking for [exact model], do you have one?"

If they don't, thank them and leave, or buy ammo, or whatever. If they do and the price is reasonable, buy it.

Counter personnel are not your friends. Their goal is to maximize profit margin, to or sell you whatever has the best manufacturer spiff this week. Not to be honest with you.

Ruger and Smith were spiffing the LCP and Shield hard when I bought my G26, so I had both of those guns thrust at me before it dawned on the counter guy that either he could sell me a G26 or I was leaving.

You just have to cleave through it sometimes. You can't get angry with them, it's their job. Something like "No, I'm looking specifically for X - that's a nice gun though." is usually enough to get a gun store guy on the same page. They'd rather have some of your money than none.

Remember, you probably know more than they do, but their average customer is a complete dipshit so that's what they'll assume about everyone who comes in the door.

Shitty gun store experiences thread?

I went into an MC Sports once and asked for PMags. The guy scoffed and said not to use the "plastic junk" and showed me some GI mags.

>>34733551
hey burt, questionerino

The PPQ barrels work in the P99, but not vice-versa, right? I think the PPQ's require more clearance on the trigger bar?

>>34734161
This.

I went in a while back looking for a G19 and was bombarded by nearly every employee insisting the Canick was the gun I wanted. Even being told "this is the gun you want". Yes, that's the gun I want........to shove down your throat. Don't tell a customer what they want unless they ask for your opinion.

Oldest marketing trick in the book.
>don't have something
>offer something else instead
When dealing with hobbyist type shit, it's very common to add in
>"now why would you want that anyway, when the stuff I just so happen to have is better :^)"
It doesn't matter what particular gun you were asking for, if they don't have it, it's garbage. Everything they DO have is creme de la creme, obviously.

>>34733444
If your gun store was any good they would of just asked if you wanted them to order one in for you. The sounds like a bunch of pricks. People buy guns for all kinds of reasons, not just for performance.

>>34733444

muslimbro works at a gun store now?

>>34734352
They did offer to order it if I really wanted it

>>34733522
Walthers are known to have about the best factory triggers my man

>>34733625
This.
For any matter someone laughing in your face is an offense man douchey thing if you simply asked a question.

>>34734373
Kek

>>34733444

Is this bait?

If it is, nice try. If not. that's right up there with one of the most unprofessional and shitty experiences I've ever read. Sorry it happened.

Walther makes great pistols. I'd take one over a glawk any day (I own both).

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All of you shop at Gander or something. There is no insidious agenda for selling a sponsored brand in a LGS. We carry what people buy, order what people ask for, and move sales and trade-ins. If something isn't in stock and literally on display in glass cases then 1. it was popular and bought out temporarily 2. it was shit that nobody bought. I don't recommend people EDC a Hi Point, but people buy the hell out of C9's so they stay in the rotation. The people that want a specific model already know what they want and have researched it to death so you just facilitate the sale or transfer. With Gun Genie sometimes people place orders and then never show back up. Those can be returned or just placed on sale after a certain amount of time. Usually I give deals on those and it's a win-win because that person never reclaims their deposit. The only ones specifically not stocked are ones that we don't want to see back in the shop in a week with broken parts (*SCCY*)

So the PPQ gets ordered plenty, because it's a good pistol at a reasonable price. The same with Rugers, and Glocks, and the occasional Sig. If it feels like something is "being crammed down your throat" then maybe learn how to have a decent conversation and explain what you're actually interested in. If you want to order that one exact model, say so instead of pissing around the counter and twiddling your thumbs. If you want "X cheap poly 9mm compact" but there's only Y and Z, that's all we can show you and we try the next closest thing to what you want. Most people don't even know about some of the brands like EAA and Diamondback and are surprised with them.

>>34734888
>blame the customer for your lack of tact
You definitely work for an LGS

>>34734373
fucking lol

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Of all my pistols I shoot the PPQ the best. I carry it more than any other.

>>34733444
Haha! You asked for a P P gun!

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>>34733444

>>34733522

>2017
>not buying guns online

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>>34734263
Not burt. But I have both, let me check real quick.

>>34734263
Both dropped into the other just fine. Obviously didnt shoot them so take that for what its worth.

>>34734888
>If you want to order that one exact model, say so instead of pissing around the counter and twiddling your thumbs.
>>34733444
>asked if they had a walther PPQ

hmm

>>34733444
>Listening to anything a woman has to say about firearms
Where your nuts son? Women are cling ons in the sport, they just parrot the opinions of the cock they're sucking.

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>>34733444
>gun store trying to make money
>laughs at customer trying to give money
shitty bait story

>>34735587
Are you new to /k/? Every gun shop story involves fudd hubris.

Everyone I've met with a PPQ says they're awesome. Not my thing but I can respect them. Maybe she was thinking about the PPK?

>>34734217
Just contrarian bullshit. GI mags are fine with the tan followers, but Pmags are better than any of the other follower colors.

>>34733599
The USP has a lot of circlejerkers for the same reason the Python does: its prevalence in popular media. Both are indeed good guns, but are they demonstrably head and shoulders above all of the less expensive competition in terms of real world use? Is either gun worth the higher MSRP plus the other significant additional costs of ownership ($50 standard magazines + highly limited aftermarket for the USP and a lack of replacement parts and qualified gunsmiths for the Python)?

>>34733444
Either they're retarded and dont know shit about guns (very possible ), or they didn't want you to buy the last walther. Either way I would find a different funstore.

Find a transfer dealer and buy a PPS or PPQ from CDNN for cheaper than anywhere and then get the $100 rebate so you can get the pistol for under $400 net.

>>34735725
I don't think either of those examples is entirely fair. The Python is only as expensive as it is BECAUSE of the fact it is discontinued, and it IS that good of a gun. The USP is as good as it is because it's overbuilt, it's a 10mm gun downsized to a .40 S&W gun and further downsized to a 9mm gun. It's that expensive because the gun has that much work put into it, there still aren't many 9mm pistols as thicc as a full-sized USP9. The USPc, P2000, and P30 are successive attempts to bring down costs. The prices don't change but that's H&K's fault, not the USP. Similarly, the fact the USP line hasn't been updated to take advantage of how standardized the aftermarket industry has become is H&K's fault, not the gun.
TL;DR the guns are definitely head and shoulders above other guns and the reason they're expensive as they are is because no expense was spared.

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>>34733444
>Shitty gun store
>Woman with dogshit salesmanship who both insults a prospective customers taste, doesn't even Segway into a similar gun they have in stock, and doesn't see about if they can order your choice of pistol
Did you at least hold onto your tactical pocket spaghetti

Protip: most girls in gun shops are hired for two things
Protip: they aren't firearms knowledge or customer service

>>34735725
usp can do +p+ ammo. it's in the manual. puny burger blasters can bareely handle +p.

>>34733444
>the lady startled at me, like if I said something totally stupid. She started laughing with her collegues,

If true, I would guess that you get laughed at almost anywhere you go.

>>34736647
The ability to make MGTOW Spergs out themselves, and the fact that they get paid less for the same work?

>>34735077
>2017
>Not Showrooming

>>34738253
That kind of shitty service sends everyone to the internet to buy.

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>>34733444
-says they don't sell shit
-carry Glocks but not Walthers

>>34733444
No experience with Walther, but your LGS is run by a bunch of cunts.

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>>34735725
>$50 standard magazines
Literally from this morning

they are fine firearms, never go in that gun shop again.

>>34733444
>>34733522
Post the name of the gunstore OP

>>34733444
walther is confirmed trash, its not even made in germany anymore

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>>34733444
>wants a PPQ

just get a Canik if you want to be cheap or a HK VP9 if you arnt. no reason to choose anything else if thats the kind of design you are going for.

>>34733444
>shitty gun store
buy online senpai

>>34733444
Show us on the doll where the Walther touched the store

>also checked

>>34738130
No, tits and ass.

>>34735009
Really? I'd prefer the VP9, Glock and the P320, although basicly theyre all the same. I dont like Pistols that arent strikerfired, because you get a SA/DO trigger, and you have to get used to both. But regarding the PPQ I found the triggerreset to be way to long.

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>all these triggered Walther faggots

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>>34733444
Haters gonna hate

Love the fuck outta my Walther

Since this is pretty much a Walther thread right now, is there any currently produced P99 variant with the exact same appearance as the Gen1 we know and love from Pierce Brosnan era James Bond? I can't get myself to like the more squared Gen2 looks, ecxept maybe(!) OP's long variant. And while we're at it, did the Gen1 have any serious troubles which would buying a used one a waste of money?

>>34733444

I daily carry a hideous walther PPX and it has been a fantastic pistol for me for 2 years now.

>>34741544
>regarding the PPQ I found the triggerreset to be way to long
Is this bait? Every review about the PPQ I have seen was claiming the reset is outstanding.

So a dude walks into my store with a disassembled CCP.
>I CANT PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
Well, shit sir, neither do we since we don't know much about it. The guys who actually knows how to put this together comes in tomorrow, or if you want I can do some research and try to assemble it for you
>NO I BOUGHT THIS A YEAR AGO CAN I GET A NEW ONE
Well, sorry sir, we can't take back guns or do exchange for them, even if it wasn't bought a year ago. We can either send it out for "repair", or buy it back from you.
>HOW MUCH WILL YOU GIVE ME
Well, you gotta talk to that dude over there. He does the aquisition.

I don't recall the exact amount, but I think we paid less than 200 bucks for a basically brand new gun.

>>34733444
I've fucking despised every walther I've held or shot, but I'd strait up walk out of a gun store if they said that shit.

>>34742111
Maybe try handling one yourself? It's also creepy and has a mushy break. The VP9 and P320 triggers are head and shoulders better.

>>34742111
No its not, if youre Shooting in a discipline, where time is of the essence like ipsc it really sucks.

>>34741544

Okay trigger reset is only 0.1" - that is not long at all. The trigger travel is a little long because it is essentially a single action striker fired pistol. If the long trigger travel is a bother there is always the apex trigger drop in kit but the stock trigger is better than most.

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>>34735611
he's right though
are you new to the 4chans believing this niggerish 1.3/10 bait?

>things that never happened.
they have no opinion on a gun you want unless you ask them outright for their opinion, they just want to make a sell.

unless they are just fucking retarded at running a business

>>34742214
The one i tried had a super crisp break. Lemon maybe?

>>34742214
>>34742227
>>34741544
04:39

https://youtu.be/5rMsYFzwHi8

>>34741149
Probably bait, but Real Walther is in Ulm, and Umarex Walther is in Arnsberg.

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>>34738508
I'm so jealous. I want a a duty USP9/45 but my department uses 40 and I don't want to taint a USP with it.

>>34733444
Next time somebody does that, ask if they have a better selection of opinions available.

>>34734263
They're identical aside from the possible polygonal rifling in the PPQ.

>>34734888
>There is no insidious agenda for selling a sponsored brand in a LGS
Yes there is.
Employee rewards programs, when I work at a gun store whichever program was going on was the guns we would push hardest.
I got 2 sigs, a fnx-9, springfield m1a and a few rugers all for free from earning rewards points last year.

>>34733444
>things that never happened: the post

>>34742402
you can convert from 40 to 10mm.
You can thank me later.

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here is mine

>>34734217
>can't find a cz 75b anywhere
>learn they have them in stock at buds
>turn off the stove, throw my children a buck 119 and a bag of crackers
>fend for yourself you little shits
>having trouble driving due to massive erection pressing against the steering wheel
>walk into store making a cracking sound
>underwear is soaked with dried pre-cum
>tell monkey manning the counter i want that gun
>tries to sell me a taurus 92 instead
>lol no m8 we're good
>entire time i'm filling out paperwork another employee is telling me what a huge mistake i've made and should have gotten a glock 19 instead
>i already have one
>he pauses for a minute.. well you should have gotten another
>his mating call of "muh perfection" has attracted another of his species
>wonder if the the glass counter can withstand their copulation
>filling out form quickly as possible to avoid being cannibalized by these sex-crazed beasts
>finally get to check out
>hand the guy my license
>oh hey.. uh i think you made a mistake here
>what?
>hands me form
>look at name field
>wrote perfection instead of my last name

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>>34733444
>>34733844
this
I want to call them and ask for walthers

>inb4 battletoads

>>34735725
>its prevalence in popular media.
It's: "prevalence in popular media" is/was because the USP .45 usurped the 1911 & was the king of .45s concealed pieces in the 90s to early oughts. But am I guessing right that you might be too young to remember back that far though?

>>34733888
I've always received steller service at bud's.

>>34733589
>leaving out the rape scene

COME ON

>>34742466
I second this, my LGS has the springfield program, or whatever it's called, where employees get them at 10%. Guess what handgun they push on everyone that walks in there.
>Hello, I'm looking for a metal frame DA/SA
>Here check out this XD
Fuck those people, just laugh in their face at whatever it is they recommend.

>>34733444
>only sell good pistols
>they had glocks

>>34734805
For striker fired guns.

Really though, walthers are pretty slick. I work at a gunstore and I'll sell people whatever they want. I don't shit on their purchase even if it warrants it but if they ask for my opinion, they're getting it without censure even if they're not going to like it.

>>34733444
I have a friend in pistol comps that swears by the ppq.

>>34733444
Even if Walthers were shit-tier, it's pretty shitty of a worker to laugh at a customer for asking about them.

>>34742402
Nothing wrong with a USP40 ya dingus, it's the original cartridge the gun was designed for.

Walthers a pretty patrician choice. there might be better guns out there but ive never met someone who had a walther who was a douche/mall ninja/autist/tacticoolio type. they were all pretty mature and well rounded

>>34733462
Any store that treats their customers like that is shitty. That's not how you behave when someone is giving you hundreds of dollars. Or ever, really; if you're going to snicker you do it in the back room after persuading your idiot customer to buy something better.

>>34733541
This.
I hate like 80% of the gun stores I go to for this reason. Only a couple times have I met gun store employees that weren't total fudds or tactical larping faggots.

>>34747073
Im lucky enough to have one LGS that covers both ends of that spectrum, the others are tacticool startups where they only have ARs and lots of stupid crap for ninjas and theres one that specializes for hunting and expensive bolt guns

>>34747121
I came across one the other day that was pretty much a gold mine as far as LGS are concerned. It's called plantation iron in Bluffton SC. The guys are retired gun smiths and overall just level headed and cool as shit. Not overly fuddy and not total mall ninjuh tnk u 4 it cervix types.
They are actually pretty similar to Ian and Karl.
Had a pretty badass Luger last time I was there too.

>>34733738
>the dark period (late 90's-mid 00's iirc)

What happened?

>>34744583
This program isn't an employee discount program, those are usually 30-60% off retail.
I'm talking about a rewards program where the salesman is given free guns for selling certain manufactures.
Sig is starting theirs soon, go into a gun store in a month or so and most will be pushing sig.

>>34733444
Actually tested this gun out at the range today just to see what's up. Was an excellent gun, especially the trigger, and had zero issues with the 100 rounds I put through it.

>>34734888
>works at lgs
>is a cock

Sounds about right. Thanks for making me feel more comfortable with buying online. I know that's gotta sting.

>>34733444
>she
yeah she's just trying to fit in with their opinions
walthers are fine, they are retards.

>>34733444

So, she's right, but they didn't have to be dicks about it. Either way if it steered you away from throwing too much money at a glock with lightening cuts, then the ends justify the means.

Just get a glock if you need a polymer lower.

Or any 1911 with a forged frame if you need a steel gun. You'll be much happier in the long run.

>>34738508
I need sauce plox

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I recently picked up a Creed and love every second of it, don't listen to a couple of dipshits.

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>>34733444
Recently acquired the Walther Q5 Match. The gun is quite accurate for a striker-fired polymer pistol, has the wonderful trigger, and no malfunctions or hiccups. Just slapped a Burris FastFire III I had kicking around using the Docter sight plate that came with the pistol. I'll be taking it to a steel challenge match on Satuday. I expect to do nearly as well shooting the Q5 Match for the first time out as I do with my SIG 320 RX (GrayGuns trigger and guide rod, smooth shooter!). Don't listen to those assholes in the gun store. Walther makes top quality firearms.

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>>34751538
With FF3 attached.

>>34733444
Some gun stores are full of faggots.

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>>34733444
>customer comes in offering to drop several hundred dollars in your store
>laugh at them and tell them not to

>>34751640
that's what surprises me, any store I walk into they're willing to sell you whatever the fuck you want and don't care if its shit.

ITT: Whalter cuck circle jerk thread

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>>34733444
I actually had an experience not entirely dissimilar.

I had gone into a local gun shop, more or less window shopping, and I asked to see a PPQ. For whatever reason, the salesperson was hesitant, insisting that I should look at a VP9 or P320 instead, or even a Glock 19.

>>34742040
>Gen1 issues
Besides awful proprietary rails, no

>>34733882
They're literally not Walthers, you dumb fuck.

>>34751654
Because it was a woman.

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>>34734888
>insufferable twat
>works at gun shop
It checks out.

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>people constant praise the PPQ's trigger
>consequently I feel like the only person who really doesn't like it

>>34747368
I assume the shitty US P99s in .40S&W. The P88 was a good but too expensive gun, the P99 first gen is excellent despite minor quirks (useless slide serrations and proprietary rail).

>>34752253
That's because you're a fucking faggot.

>>34734161
This.

First time I bought a gun they jewed me into getting a Franchi Instinct L for trap. And I listened and bought it. Heard the lady celebrating that she finally sold it as I left. 1 year later and the gun fails to come off safe 50% of the time, and I can't do anything about it but fix it because it's an automatic safety.

Should have just bought the Ithaca NID

>>34742122
>Sold his gun for pennies on the dollar because he was too lazy to google how to re-assemble it
People like that shouldn't be allowed to own guns

>>34735371
what the fuck is the point? just own a p99 [which is the best gun] and buy other brands

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>>34742402
Now I have to pray every day I don't get pulled over by a fucking frogposter.

>>34735009
>that 92

niceu

>>34733444
nice digits.

that gunstore sounds like a bunch of fuckheads. I've been to a few like that, is it ran by some old folks as a way for them to buy and sell Class-3 stuff and to get shit at cost? because there is one by me that does that and is a GIANT Springfield shill, and has since B@ me from the premises after the whole Springfield and RRA fiasco.

besides they want to be dicks about it, fuck them, go somewhere that arent fucking filthy plebs.

>>34733589
where is the greasey sebacious skinned slightly overweight girl femdoming you in her muddy girl tshirt and wrangler jeans for THICC GRILLS? where is the foot grinding against the crotch and facial farting bit?

i feel cheated.

>>34735009
what holster do you carry the ppq in? What way?

I want one over the PPS, but the PPQ seems a bit big...

>>34752511
I'd take ppq over the p99 any day. 3 trigger pulls is one too many

>what the fuck is the point?
some people like to shoot more than one caliber.

>>34733444
The fact that they willingly sell glocknades to people but shit all over their customers when they want something that actually is good, proves that they're fucking worthless.

>>34755953
>3 trigger pulls is one too many
Shut up