Meme guns

>>34733320
in europe the mr73s arent that much more expensive than match smiths or rugers

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>SAKO RK 95
>7.62x39 Finnish variant of the AK
>regarded as the "best" AK variant by people on the internet
>literally virgin-love to Finnish conscripts that have never touched a gun in their lives so it's all they know and all they love like the fat chick they lost their virginity to
>it's super accurate guys! (this is because the service cartridge is Lapua ammo)
>it's the best AK variant in the WORLD!
>widely unavailable and excessively expensive if you do find a civilian version of it or its older cousins

Non meme equivalent of the RK 95
>Arsenal SLR 107FR/ SGL21 or Rifle Dynamics 104 SBR build
>much lighter weight
>much more affordable
>the Rifle Dynamics gas block+FSP combo reduces the front heavyness of the AK making transitions easier
>wide aftermarket
>Corbon 7.62x39 and Hornady SST are small examples of the multitude of different quality loads
>you can actually find these in the US

But it isn't rare as fuck and you can't post naked pictures of yourself in the woods with your RK 95 covering your penis so it doesn't get a glance.

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>>34733320
Manurhin MR73:
>can be had for $500ish if you have more patience than a 13 year old, disqualifying op from knowing this
>sexy blueing

SP101:
>anon somehow thinks pic related isn't ugly as sin and probably has Read Manual Before Use written somewhere on it
>funds "Civilians shouldn't own semiauto weapons of war (unless they have wood furniture and are 6 moa shitsticks made by us XDDD)" Ruger® brand Ruger®

I'll take the meme.

>>34733347
I secretly hate you eurofags for reasons like this. When I went to the UK, Jameson's Irish Whisky and damn nice scotch was available at every Tesco for about half the price I can get it in the States. I actually took a picture of a bottle of Jameson's and a bottle of basic Jack Daniels on the shelf, the Jack was way more expensive.

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Meme gun to end all meme guns.

>>34733402
>>34733347
That's just wrong.

https://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/article/Revolver-MANURHIN-MR73-Gendarmerie-4-cal.357-mag-38-special.html
https://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/article/Revolver-SMITH-WESSON-686-4-cal.357-mag-38-Sw-Special.html

>inb4 it's not a "Match S&W"
Well neither is the MR73, it's literally what the Police had.

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>Sphinx pistols
>considerably more expensive than a CZ
>it's made in Switzerland so you know it's good!
>subcompact variants suffer from reliability issues due to poor engineering
>lack of aftermarket such as fiber optic sights, holsters and parts support from Kriss

>CZ pistols (primarily the P07 and P09
>can be had for half the price at $400 new (which is fucking insane)
>you can get Dawson fiber optics, quality holsters available from companies such as JM Custom
>parts support is a thing
>you can spend the rest of the $400 on Cajunizing it or sending it off to CZ Custom for a superior gun

But the CZ wasn't made by the glorious Swiss so it can't possibly be worth a shit despite the CZ P01 being a handgun that was tested extensively by NATO along with a large amount of competetive shooters using CZ guns.

The same applies to Jerichos, they're meme guns as well.
>>34733425
>Mateba
>Meme gun to end all meme guns.

Thank you. And while we're on the topic: using .357 for self defense as opposed to .38 special.

>>34733386
>>funds "Civilians shouldn't own semiauto weapons of war
Unless you think the profit goes towards a time machine or resurrecting Bill's rotting corpse this is wrong and retarded.

>>34733486
It baffles me as to how people are still butthort about something as stupid as this.

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>>34733320
All three of these guns are meme guns but the Mosin is the meme-iest of them all. Its a garbage rod thats fun to shoot clay pigeons and 2 litres with and that's about it.

>>34733402
It's almost as if one was produced in that country or just across a tiny stretch of sea and the other has to be shipped across an ocean.

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Cap i took a while back

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>>34733320
Wanna know how I know you have never directly compared the two?

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>>34733505
Hope this fixes it

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>>34733518
Also that's an old pic. Comparing the mr73 to my mint 1970s 19-3 or the new production 686 I had, they still aren't even close.

OP is a moron speaking out of his ass and not personal experience.

>>34733535
>>34733518
Nice collection, which revolver do you prefer?

>>34733386

I've held/shot the match champ, the grips are meh but the trigger is pretty swag. hate the half lug barrel, looks fugly to me. also the over all balance is kinda meh. sights are pretty tits.

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This one is my favorite

>Glock 29
>the poster gun of the ill-informed retard, one step ahead of the Taurus Judge in the derp-o-meter
>subcompact
>10mm
>very unshootable despite users try to convince you that shooting it isn't that bad because they're under the assumption that shootability=how much they can muscle through recoil without understanding that shootability means how quickly you can get effective hits on target
>almost the same dimensions as the Glock 19
>a much more shootable, lighter weight gun that carries more ammo onboard

>Glock 19/26, non meme equivalent
>it's a 9mm, it's not going to do anything!
>the average Glock 19 carrier will be finished putting a good number of effective hits on target compared to the Glock 29 carrier
>9mm is more shootable, at the end of the day, 10mm and 9mm are both pistol caliber rounds and conceal carry is the defense against human attackers, not neccesarily 4 legged critters which 10mm is more apt for

I challenge 10mm fags to see if they perform better with a Glock 29 than a Glock 26. The average 10mmfag has never used or seen a shot timer in real life, which is the shooting equivalent of the lie detector.

A pistol is a pistol, I would take faster, more anatomically effective hits on target with a 9mm than fighting against the recoil of a 10mm from a subcompact, more misses and slower shot to shot times any damn day of the week. This concept of shot placement is something the 10mm fag largely ignores since skill is never considered to be a factor in defensive shooting.

>>34733439
>extensively tested by NATO
There are many "NATO aproved" firearms, which includes the Beretta 92, the Sig P226, and the Glock 17.

To be NATO approved it has to come from a member country. Thats it.
CZ has used this fact for years to sell junk to retards who think its something special to be approved by one of the least active militaries on the planet.

>>34733545
Mr73 by a very wide margin

Across all of my guns, even tired and ugly as it is, it's the last one I would let go

>>34733430
and what the police had, shot as good as match revolvers to leave the factory. and the mr38s are literally match guns priced the same.

https://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/article/Revolver-SMITH-WESSON-Performance-Center-686-COMPETITOR-6-cal.357-mag-38-Sw-special.html

my mr73 shoots a little better than that smith in the hands of an old champion shooter.

>>34733320
>One more round
>Significantly better steel
>Triggers that are light years apart both in feel and mechanics

Moron.

>>34733604
I see that those Performance Center models go for $1200 in the US. I understand now.
Anything we import from the US is pretty much twice the price.

>>34733596
If I end up moving to the US, I'll make sure to bring a MR73 with me.

>>34733320
t. Someone who doesn't have a mr-73

>>34733513
Someone was butthurt that CZ's are popular.

>>34733685
Sounds like that's going to get easier for productive humans. Thanks God-Emperor. Speak good English and be able/willing to work and we will welcome you (and your mr73)

>>34733320
>What is a meme gun?
A gun that I do not like but you do.

>>34733703
Easier on your end maybe but harder on mine. Thanks socialism :^)

>>34733320
Yes, Ruger revolvers are good.

But the MR73 is on a whole other level.

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>>34733320
>A meme gun is a gun that is coveted due to hype and not real world practicality or effectiveness. A meme weapon tends to have a reputation built around a certain feature that is found in more affordable and more commonly available firearms. The meme gun may also have been featured in a film or videogame, adding to the unwarranted hype.
How can you say the MR-73 is a meme when you've literally described the Colt Python?

>>34733995
>gun pointing down
why do people watch this garbage?

>>34733974
story?

>>34734016
Rhino kaboomed, potentially due to a squib

>>34734016
glock

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>>34734012
because we do!

hes a britbong who makes a living playing gun-totting dudes on TV. if you ever met him, you'd be obligated to kill him.

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>>34734016
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/4y8nm0/chiappa_200ds_explodes/

New gun with factory ammo. My best guess is that inexperienced shooter had a squib ,didn't recognize it and fired again. Pressure blew that shitty aluminum frame to shit(notice the steel cylinder and barrel are intact) and then it took the tip of his finger off because your hand is like .5" of shitty aluminum away from the firing chamber.

>>34734047
I so wish this would happen to the yankee marshal...

>>34734058
I think he's off the chiappa bandwagon. Something about he asked them for some gun or something at a trade show and they said sure and then ignored him after that. He's carrying a 586 L-comp now.

>>34733439
.357 has some advantages if you arent talking 2" snubs though.

>>34734082

well, that tells you all you needed to know about his convictions doesn't it. I wouldn't stop carrying a G26 just bc Glock tells me to fuck off...

>>34734085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27wDLjY5JSs

>>34734037

Dat grip.

>>34734037
Queen of the teacup

>>34734094
I would, fuck companies with bad customer service. If they act like they dont want your money you take it elsewhere, and only return if they improve.

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>SPAS 12
>Used in muh videogames and hollywood movies so it has to be good!
>put on a pedestal as the end all final form of autoloading shotguns

Benelli M3/4
>still a dual mode pump/semi
>7lbs instead of 9+
>modern reliable Inertia operation instead of the unreliable 50 year old gas piston ring operation of the SPAS
>True top tier autoloader that is still used by military and police forces around the world because it is such a good design
>reciever wont crack just because you forgot to replace a buffer

>>34733386
>MR73
>can be had for $500
>sexy bluing

You forgot to mention the part where the guns you are talking about were surplus import marked police weapons that were in generally terrible condition. Most of them were at ~65% of original finish remaining, and many of them had mechanical issues of some kind. Some people even got guns that didn't even work at all.

Source: https://www.classicfirearms.com/manurhin-mr73-357-magum-38-special-revolver-surplus

Buying an abused Manurhin with no factory support for $500 when that same $500 could get you a new GP100 with an ironclad warranty is a fool's bargain.

>>34734156
The impression I got wasn't that he was trying to buy something but that he was scamming for some free shit because "muh famous youtuber". They paid him lip service at the booth and then blew him off after that and he got butthurt.

>>34734190
Ignoring the evidence of people that have rockstars.

Regardless of the price, they are incomparable firearms.

That's like asking why Lexus exists when everyone can just drive around in Corollas.

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>>34734190
having a beater MR73 just so you can give no fucks innawoods has it's perks mate....

The Hi-Point C9 is the ultimate meme gun.

>>34733320
>comparing a 6 shot revolver to a 5 shot

>>34734216
A better comparison in this case would be someone who turns down a new Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla to buy a 300SL with engine and transmission problems that also looks like a rust bucket. I'm not saying that the decision to get one of the surplus MR73s is an objectively bad one, just that the dichotomy presented in the post I originally quoted (>>34733386) is a total straw man.

>>34734225
See, yours actually looks alright even if the original gloss bluing has been completely lost. I assume it's in good working order?

>>34734288
I'm >>34734216 and it's mine. It works perfectly and the park job is apparently a pretty common surplus occurrence.

It's better than a new gp100 or 686. I have had all 3.

>>34733439
>a wild CZ fanboi appears and ignores the blatantly shit machining that goes into virtually all CZ's except the shadow 2

>>34734037
I actually did just saw him a couple months ago at a small comic con

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>>34734225
Glad to see that stinker making the rounds still.

>>34733347
Bullshit, they are about 1 1/5 as much or more.
The only cheap Manurhins are beat up former police guns or decent ones (if you´re lucky and get a good deal). Even used Match versions are expensive..
They are 1700-2k+ new.
That being said, I got my MR22 in perfect condition for well under 500€ because the seller was a retarded polack who had no idea how much the thing is really worth.

OP is a fucking idiot though, MRs are legit.

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>>34733588
Oh I agree if you go 10mm it's best to stick with a glock 20. Glock 29 is a good backpack gun for innawoods when rapid follow up shots aren't as big of a deal and are still superior to revolvers.

Underwood 10mm matches commercial 41 magnum at 180 grains or below (180@1300 or 165 @1400). This is compounded by the fact that a glock 20 is only as long as a 3 inch n frame.

>>34733588
yes, of fucking course a Glock 19/26 will be easier to shoot than a 29 and they are generally better carry guns

however, if you are going to call the 29 retarded then you need to do it doubly so for the 45 subcompact/compact Glocks

also, if I was some place with bears and was given the choice between a ruger alaskan in 44 mag or a 29 I would easily take the 29

Jerichos are not meme guns unless you bought it because of a cartoon. Clone or not, it is built better and shoots as good or better. Heavy, but ergonomic as any pistol you will ever hold.

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>>34734501
Also important to remember is that glock 20s
>are the size of a p30 (longer slide isn't an issue IWB)
>chambered in a round with twice the ME of 9mm
>has 15 rounds on tap

>>34734591
10mm fags are the fucking worst.

>>34734447
see
>>34733604

>>34734541
>unironically choosing 10mm over .44 Magnum against bears

You are assuming that you are likely to encounter the attacking bear in a scenario where you will be able to get all 10+1 shots off before it gets to you, which is the definition of unrealistic (unless you plan on magdumping without taking aim, which is a stupid idea).

Furthermore, .44 Magnum has been consistently proven to be able to take down any kind of trophy animal on Earth, including the African Big 5. It is a much, much better option vs. large game or dangerous predators.

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>>34733320
>used by the GIGN so it's got to be good!

No, it's good because the GIGN have historically used it in their daily training. Since their training regimen states that each trooper needed to shoot at least 100 rounds of full power magnum rounds per day in service, that meant a lot of fucking ammo went through each gun.
Initially, they went through insane numbers of S&Ws and Colts before the MR-73 was developed.

>it's also REALLY expensive and has a tedious amount of craftsmanship in each individual gun

My brand new MR-73 cost me less than it would have cost me to buy a S&W 686 and have it tuned by a competent gun smith or custom shop.

As far as revolvers go, you're free to call a Korth "REALLY expensive", but an MR-73 really aint that expensive.

Anyhow, in practical use, an MR-73 will behave as well as any S&W686 modified by a competent gun smith, but when run hard (or long) the MR-73 will survive many things a S&W686 or Python will not.

>reputed to be built like a brick shithouse, able to withstand thousands upon thousands of rounds of .357 without breaking

Also able to survive a double load without warping the frame. It will bulge the cylinder, but not breach it.

>match grade trigger with an amazing single action pull

Oh, you little summer child. You'd have to design a very shitty revolver for the single action pull to suck. The real test of a combat revolver like the MR-73 is how smooth double action is.

Even Taurus can shit out revolvers with perfectly acceptable single action pull.
Hell, you can polish even a Nagant 1895 to have a very nice and crisp single action pull.
Double action however, things get more complicated.

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>>>34733604
I´d pick a MR73 over that thing as well.
But if I was shooting serious bullseye competitions, I´d get a Club 30 686. Got to shoot the thing last week and it was really, really impressive.

>>34734541
>10memers will take less power extra capacity for literal bear
>will complain about other calibers being underpowered against humans
I don't even know

>>34734646
>>34734754
You both are comparing 44 mag from long barreled revolvers to 10mm

The Alaskan weighs 44 ounces unloaded
The 29 weighs 27 ounces unloaded
If you think the 29 is a meme gun the 20 is still only 31 ounces unloaded

Out of anything under 4" 44 mag is pretty shit while 10mm is still pretty efficient at the 3.8" of barrel the 29 has

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/10mm.html
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/44mag.html

>>34734710
Is that a 5in barrel?

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>>34734887
>Is that a 5in barrel?

5.25", yes.

>>34733439
Any Swiss gun is a meme gun

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Beretta Silver Pigeons

Holy fuck, why do so many people buy Silver Pigeons? When I was working in a gun shop, everyone would go for the Silver Pigeons. They're well made, sure, but you're paying out the nose for the brand name and some polished wood. They're not even that impressive when it comes to the engraving and woodwork; you could get a second hand English gun with far nicer wood and engraving work for less and they're not even that nice. They're entry level posh guns. Not enough sense to get a decent workhorse you can use and not enough cash to get something that actually stands out. And SO MANY PEOPLE BUY THEM to the extent that there are multiple cases where people will go to shoots and TAKE HOME THE WRONG GUN BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME DAMN MODEL OF SILVER PIGEON.

Either save your money and buy a nicer more personalised gun or buy a Pardus.

>>34735104
Are you a tactifag by any chance? Most people are not buying Silver Pigeons because they want a "fancy" fudd gun; they are buying Silver Pigeons because Silver Pigeons are, along with the Browning Citori, the minimum that can be considered as "decent" for an O/U shotgun.

Buying something cheaper than a Citori or Silver Pigeon just gets you poorly made junk that breaks easily, while buying something nicer requires that you be lucky enough to find a nice used bespoke gun or waiting months and shelling out thousands of dollars more for a nice new bespoke gun.

>>34735190
Nonsense. You can get a perfectly shootable gun that does the exact same thing a Silver Pigeon does for half the price that'll be absolutely fine for clay bashing, small game, grousing, etc.

>>34735223
Also, you can take it rough shooting and not worry about scratching it up.

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>>34733588
>>34734501
>>34734646
>>34734854
The fact 10mm fags have to jump straight to either underwood ammo or buffalo bore to prove their caliber is superior is like someone using 45 super in a comparison between 9mm and 45.

You wont shoot that shit that much, that ammo is expensive.

You're going to settle for local bulk ammo, which is loaded to FBI spec making it 40s&w that costs twice as much.

Also 99% of the hollow points for 10mm suck absolute ass and are also loaded to FBI spec, this includes Gold dot, Federal, and even Hornady

Even if you reload your money could be going to an actual good boutique caliber like 9x25 Dillon, and with the money you spent on boutique ammo that actually performs like you gloat it does you could have trained with x3 the amount in 9mm and actually gotten good with your gun and not needed the approval of people on /k/ about what caliber you picked.

>>34733995
Hey, pre 64 pythons are beautiful guns. The thing I hate is all the people wanting them because of the walking dead. Although I could probably sell mine to one of those people for a metric ton of money, but my grandpa's ghost would probably possess it and kill me before I do.

Sidenote. My ex has Rick's prop revolver from season one and two. She did makeup on the show for the first two seasons. Its signed by him.

>>34735223
A Hi-Point is also usually "perfectly shootable" when you first buy it, but do you think it will remain that way over the long term if you use it regularly? It's the same issue with cheap Turkish O/U shotguns--they might work, but for how long?

>>34733591

>inactive

way to prove you know nothing

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>>34734351
>a wild CZ fanboi appears and ignores the blatantly shit machining that goes into virtually all CZ's except the shadow 2

Somebody tell Mike Pannone his shitty plastic gun has a frame bulge! Didn't he know?? AAaahahahaha!!!!!1

>>34735248
>brags about his Python in a thread full of Manurhin owners.

>>34735385
Way to prove me wrong
Oh wait

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Steyr pistols are the biggest polymer striker meme guns.

>oh look at me
>I have an Austrian polymer gun
>AHA!
>it isn't a Glock! Gotcha there buddy, it's ackshually a Steyr (literally what)
>you see, I bought this as a fuck YOU to evil Gaston Glock!
>stickin' it to Glock and everyone else who uses a Glock, I"m DIFFERENT, I'm UNIQUE, ONE OF A KIND BABY!!!
>LOWBOREAXISLOWBOREAXISLOWBOREAXIS (cannot actually shoot in the first place)
>eh...
>guys...
>does Trijicon make the HD's for it?
>uh...oh, only brite and toughs...
>does Dawson make fiber optics for it?
>no?
>does Ameriglo offer any sights for it...?
>no? Uhh...I'll settle with my SUPERIOR GEOMETRY SIGHTS
>anyone make a holster for this thing?
>oh, Alien Gear does, yay...
>so poorly marketed, Steyr got butthurt when Sig won the Army trials, same way the designer was a butthurt former Glock employee
>it's a gun made by someone butthurt about Glocks, made for people that are butthurt about Glocks.

>Glock
>proven by a huge amount of different LE agencies, military units, passing SOCOM's demanding handgun trials
>plenty of competitive shooters and civillians use them
>metric assload of parts support
>assload of aftermarket (even if half of it is garbage but this is normal since it's popular, who wouldn't want to capitilize on such a popular gun?)
>aftermarket includes high tier holster options that you don't have to wait 6 weeks for, any kind of sight you imagine, they made them for Glocks first
>goes down in size from a 34 to 42, any configuration you possibly want
>GSSF is a thing
>magazines are cheap as fuck
>you can take the gun apart with nothing but a q tip end and a rock or something
>after 30 some years, the Glock 19 is still the world's thinnest most size efficient 15+1 9mm
>the gadget is a thing

>>34735647
Yes but how fucking boring are you. I don't even want to go to the range with you.

>>34735647
Don't forget that more of Glock's guns have also passed NATO testing, which trumps over CZs one crowning achievement, and which Steyr has not passed as well.

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This POS.

>>34735447
Not bragging, just making fun of people who want them because of walking dead.

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>>34735873
http://texshoemaker.com/product.sc;jsessionid=8168B803F2FEFF5DD2DF66EC900DC820.p3plqscsfapp006?productId=330&categoryId=1

>>34735647
>Bored axis
>meme
Brainlet identified

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>>34735900
>barrel extends beyond holster

>>34733320
Single action revolvers are a meme. Why would anyone want one?

They impractical,

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>>34736049
Because they are fun as fuck and not every gun you own has to be for going to war?

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>>34735647
But since striker guns are basically a meme
Steyrs are the best meme
Pro-tip: .357 Sig is the memeyest

>>34736049
Literally for pretending you're a cowboy

>>34735869
AUG being bad is a itself a meme
Probably made by Tavor oyners

>>34733439
Feel free to give me a source on all the extensive testing on the P-01 that NATO never did. The NSN means nothing besides standardization of parts.

>>34736097
Really too bad they don't make them in siggy anymore.

>>34736140
Cant really expect them to
I wanna get one in .357 or at least .40 for some GitS aesthetic operatin
Probably need a PS90 too

>>34736165
I CAN EXPECT THEM TO.
I was gonna buy one until I found out they're 1k a pop now instead of the 400 they used to be.

>>34736175
Shit I didnt know they were 1000
Maybe you can write them a letter saying that the market value shows that theres demand for that caliber

>>34735242
That's retarded and here's why:
>Underwood or Buffalo Bore 10mm is within Saami spec and requires no modification to your stock glock so no it's no like bringing up 45 super

>underwood 180 1300 fps fmj 60 cpr for a box of 50

>no I buy my ammo online

>gold dot 165s do not experience any jacket separation, 180 gold dots START to come apart but never do in any of the tests I've seen, both exhibit fantastic permanent wound cavities and DEEP penetration, XTPs or DPX are okay but not as good as GDs

>9x25 memery

Go fuck yourself faggot

>>34736202
I'm pretty sure they have an entire marketing department that's already figured out that that's not the case, hence them not making them anymore.

>>34733320
I'd rather have a GP100 than an SP101

>>34736204
Also I forgot to mention Federal has a sweet 10mm load that pushes a 180 grain soft point at 1275 fps. The SP shows great expansion, penetration and weight retention in ballistic gel tests.

>I shill 10mm because more people buying it means cheaper ammo, more hollow points, and more guns chambered in it

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>>34736229
>I'd rather have a GP100 than an SP101

That's fine. You're not wasting +$1,000 on a meme gun.

>>34736214
Basically this, 357 sig is a dying round. Better just to go with 9mm +p+ and a heavier recoil spring, more capacity that way as well. 9mmBPLE is crazy cheap and effective

>>34736255
Holy fuck that picture is stupid.

Scoped revolvers for sniping?
>MEME DREAM SUPREME

>>34733402
Thats funny, cause every euro, canuck, or aussie I meet stateside always tells me how much cheaper booze is in the US (hint: we pay way less tax than they do).

>>34736270

>But it's a thing and they have being doing it a lot longer than you have being alive

I dunno man

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>>34733320
Is CIA guy and Jack Bauer enough to make USP Compact a meme?
Snake made .45 Tactical and Mk23 a meme
I also have a .40 USP im gonna convert to 10mm

>>34735900
Kill it. Kill it with fire.

>>34736270
Dad hunted deer with a scoped Ruger Super Redhawk for years.

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>>34733425
It's in the top 5, but I don't think it can beat this.

Why has nobody posted a P90 yet?

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>>34733439

>>34733402
>>34733510
???
You can buy Jameson in a Costco in Nevada for far, far less than it costs in County Cork, where it's made. It's literally $35 for a half-gallon.

$30/liter is average price in the States. When I lived in Cork 5 years ago average price was around $50/liter with the exchange rate at the time, and the cost of a glass of whiskey in a pub was fucking insane, like 2-3x what I pay for the same drink in the States.

>>34736340
Has it right. Ireland and the UK tax the fuck out of liquor sales. Can't comment on the rest of Europe though.

>>34736270
The GIGN is a meme in and of itself

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>>34733369
>unironically saying the RD bolt-on GB/FSB is an improvement
Jim Fuller should be fucking ashamed of himself for putting those on his rifles at the pricepoint he sells them at

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Calico

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Skorpion

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motherfucking Vector

>>34736540
SPACE BALLS

>>34736496
That's because the only people that drink Jameson in Ireland are tourists.

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anything in .454 casull

>>34736598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwatNHFfgX4

>>34736598
SPACEBALLS: THE GUN

>>34736611
Regardless
>>34733402 is full of shit.

Not about the fact that JD costs more than Jameson in a Tesco. He just doesn't seem to know how much it costs in the States or what constitutes "cheap"

>>34736611
And yet my girlfriend's (very) Irish dad and almost every home I went into had a bottle in the cupboard. And if it wasn't Jameson it was Bushmills, which is made in the same distillery.

Irish people absolutely drink whiskey. They just don't drink it in pubs.

>>34733386
>>funds "Civilians shouldn't own semiauto weapons of war (unless they have wood furniture and are 6 moa shitsticks made by us XDDD)" Ruger® brand Ruger®
Are you aware that Bill Ruger is dead?

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>>34736049

>>34736075
What's the point then?
>>34736112
>pretend
Like airshit
>>34736785
Besides fun Give me 5 reasons I should get a SAA over a SW/ruger/ hell even Taurus revolver

>>34733588
>subcompact
>almost the same size as a G19

Done stepping on your own argument yet? Have you ever seen one in person let alone fired one?

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>>34736204
>underwood 180 1300 fps fmj 60 cpr for a box of 50
is 60 cpr supposed to be cheap?

>>34734185
While the M3 is fantastic, the SPAS has a reputation as both great and terrible it's a mix

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One of the memeiest guns of all time. I love it to death.

>not a single mention of the Tavor

/k/ you disappoint me

>>34736049

If you want to shoot large bore pistol cartridges loaded to ridiculous velocities, modern manufacture single action revolvers are the best way to go.

>>34738037
>If you want to shoot large bore pistol cartridges loaded to ridiculous velocities

=

>If you want to meme

>>34737338
Strength, reliability, better triggers, nostalgia, an attempt to not be a colossal baiting faggot ?

>>34735242
Hey guys just thought id pop in here to share my useless opinion


Jumping to underwood is actually more like bringing up +p .45 ACP desu. Shit's within spec but a steady diet of it will shorten the life of a gun. The reason you see such a gap between normal +p and underwoods +p is that you're average ammo manufacturer has massive production runs with okish QC and overactive lawyers.

They're risk adverse so they download their rounds to be sure they wont cause a KB even if they're a bit off with a round.

Underwood OTOH loads to actual specs and advertises their actual velocities. They produce less ammo and are more QC focused.

There's no problem with using underwood ammo as long as you aren't feeding a steady diet of it or trying to run it in a shit gun designed for bp or something.

Underwoods JHPs in 10mm have performed pretty well from the tests I've seen. do you perhaps have some examples indicating otherwise?

also while im at it

>MFW the ideal 10mm load for humans is a 145-155gr bonded hollowpoint moving at around 1450-1500fps

>MFW nobody makes this round

W/E, .357 sig has most of the same advantages for 2 foot with less recoil.

>>34738129
Spoken like a true noguns summerfag.

>>34738145
I'm low key trying to convince myself to get a ruger Blackhawk over SW 357

>>34733320
>>34733320
the SP101 holds 17% less ammunition

>>34734501
you can use 40s&w 165@1200 from underwood which will do literally just as well and your gun will be smaller and lighter and more practical for every day carry as well as being way cheaper to practice with

>>34738209
Oh, does it only hold 83 rounds?

>>34736049
not if you are a handgun hunter looking to shoot the most powerful loads possible

>>34736075
beautiful

>>34736496
those refugees arent going to support themselves. give them your tax dollars, euros!

>>34738272
the SP101 only holds 5 rounds of 357 which is the caliber OP was comparing to the Mr73, which holds 6

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>>34733386
>>funds "Civilians shouldn't own semiauto weapons of war (unless they have wood furniture and are 6 moa shitsticks made by us XDDD)" Ruger® brand Ruger®

Apparently I stepped through a time portal and it's 1993 again.

>>34736270
The Lord Humungus used a scoped .44, for what thats worth

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>>34737788
Gotchu senpai

The most overrated fucking bullpup to the meme's extreme

>Mag release so terribly designed that soldiers often accidentally drop their mags in the field
>Why yes I like jam on my toast
>Fucking expensive and tedious to switch out the bolts for lefties, or you have to send it to the factory
>The ugliest fucking gun
>Meme'd because of fanboys falling for Kike marketing (again)
>Shit accuracy
>Charging handle is prone to breaking

Meanwhile you have the AUG
>Actually a good and influential bullpup design
>Switching to left-side ejection takes like a minute
>Comes with lefty bolt if you choose it, or you can order it for half the price of the Tavor's kit
>Sealed bolt system
>Capable of 1 MOA

The last good design the Jews made was the Galil

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>>34738540
You forgot the unending torrent of gas in your face and weighing more than the competition for no reason. Tavors are shit.

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>>34733320

This thing. Overrated and overpriced. Ask a fanboy why it's more practical than an AR and they'll give you some bullshit non-answer, or nothing at all. $3k for something that's as good as a $1,500 AR lmao.

>>34738540
>The last good design the Jews made was the Galil
but anon they just released a new galil :^)

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>>34738552

P much lmao

Also forgot to mention the Aug's main feature: the interchangeable barrel. Somehow, easy-as-fuck takedown is a bad feature according to Tavor autists.

>>34738571

You mean, ruining the affordability and aesthetics of the original. Sure it's practically great, but it's $2k and leaves you wondering if it's really worth that much

>>34738606
I actually like the ace aesthetics

Can someone give me the true rundown of the bullpup argument?

My father is looking to get one for the sake of home defense only. He likes the bullpup design for the sake of being able to open doors, use lights and phones, etc without lowering the weapon. He has a bad eye and intends to use a mounted laser, so extreme accuracy is already a little less important.

So in this situation, why would we choose anything else over the X95? And what would that even be? AUGs appear harder to come by.

>>34738268
>Roughly 200 ft ilbs of muzzle energy means nothing

Lol no

>>34738647
inb4 shotguns, already have more than enough, looking to expand the arsenal.

>>34738647
Seems fine for HD, but why restrict a gun for HD?

>>34738345
That was kinda my point. He says it's 17% as if its ONLY 17%.

17% can mean a lot of things but in this case it's simply 1.

a 6 shot has 20% more bullets than a 5 shot but most importantly it has one more bullet than a 6 shot. The lower your capacity the more important one extra bullet is.

>>34738687
I don't mean for it to be purpose limited, but the primary intention of its purchase is for home defense. It will be the only weapon out of the safe other than a pistol and one of the shotguns. I'm sure I will use it for hog hunting perhaps for the sake of it, although I have other guns I would still choose for that over a bullpup.

>>34738634

I like 'em and I don't. Idk, I think it's just my preference. They do perform great, though.

>>34738647

Bullpups, in theory, are superior due to keeping an overall length of the rifle short while keeping the barrel length long, especially when CQC is considered.

The AUG has a lot more balance to it compared to the Tavor, so if your father wants to one hand it, I'd personally recommend that. Additionally, you can change out its barrel extremely easily. Give it a 16inch for CQC and a 20 if you want to go target shooting. Plus, I think it's a hair shorter than the Tavor.

Augs are pretty common on gunbroker, and you can typically get one for about $1,600 without its signature scope.

Good luck to you and your father, either way.

>>34738723
Thank you, I appreciate the input.

>>34738647
If he can handle the bullpup in those kinds of situations while staying shouldered but not a normal pattern rifle then there isnt any normal pattern alternative.

I mean a handgun is less encumbering but if he manage those sorts of things with a BP then go for it.

DESU id go with a tavor or MSAR. Third would be a "pistol" with a brace.

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>>34733588
>Anon forgetting the fact it's a subcompact 10mm with 15+1 capability
Why are you retarded? 10mm is not hard to shoot, it's just bitch wrist 9mm. I can magdump a G19 at 5 yards and my group is the size of a golf ball, and in defensive shooting you usually only get one shot off.

>>34740347
>I can magdump a G19 at 5 yards and my group is the size of a golf ball

That says nothing about your shooting performance.

>and in defensive shooting you usually only get one shot off.

Probably the dumbest thing I've heard today, thank you for your shit input.

>>34735242
>Hornady sucks for 10mm
Bullshit nigger, XTP is PERFECT for 10mm.

>>34740389
Sorry kiddo, the FBI disagrees with you, and every other defensive handgun expert. The apex of firearm use is to put a round that's effective on a vital organ, not to magdump wildly at the target, that's how 1986 shootout went down.

>>34734047
I've never heard of a squib load before today, thank god I discovered it. I never knew this could happen.

In the case of semi-auto pistols, they're not as big of a deal, right? The gun won't cycle another round and so it's not like you could, say, be firing very quickly, get a squib load, then fire again right after and get an exploded gun, right?

Do squib loads damage the rifling in a gun?

>>34735242
>comparing Underwood or Buffalo Bore 10mm isn't fair
>in reality you're not going to load good ammo when you carry, you're going to actually load crap range ammo because it is cheap
>XTP bullets in 10mm suck
>an actual good boutique caliber like 9x25 dillon

does it get anymore retarded?

>>34737431
Just so you know, 10mm brass is the same price as 40 cal brass so reloading costs are basically the same

>>34734591
I don't get the image. What's wrong with it?

>>34738565
I'm a huge fanboy, but I just think the cheek riser and straight mag looks like pure sex, and I love the sound of 7.62.

>>34738657
im not convinced

>>34736766
Powers is one of the more popular whiskys in Ireland. Jameson is plastic paddy tier desu, think of all the operator stereotype about shooting Jameson. That being said I still buy it every once and awhile.

>>34740503
A squib won't damage the rifling. Squibs are excedingly rare in factory ammo, as powder is dropped by volume. Squibs are usually a result of error in hand loading. As long as you realize you've had a squib,it is easily remedied. Just use a mallet and wooden dowel to press the bullet out the muzzle.

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>>34737338
>like airshit
Exactly

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how much of a meme are pic related?