worried about picking the right cartridge, newfags? they are all good

where 10

You need to figure out the type of gun(s) you want and its purpose before considering what cartridge, as the former affects the latter.
>>34724088
10mm is too good for newfags.

It depends on your purpose for carrying. All of those are terrible choices if you're carrying in the woods for defense against bears.

>>34723975
I like your list anon pls make more

>>34723975
>.380 ACP
>pros: very concealable handguns, easy to shoot in nearly any platform. a good caliber for those who fear recoil, easy to silence
>easy to silence

Hold on, aren't most .380 pistols blowback designs?

.357?

>>34723975

9mm and 45 have similar energy, the 45's advantage comes from a larger wound and its greater momentum often causes it to deflect less against bones. A box of subsonic rounds in 9mm costs less than a of a box of 45. 40 cal is almost always a subsonic round, it's great for a supressor. Good 40 cal gives the best penetration on that list.

Your list is wrong in areas and too simplistic

>>34725694

Rereading that, I didn't mean to sound like a dick, I know you're trying to help. Write it neatly on a word document then screenshot it, it will be easier to read and revise. If I remember when I get home where I have access to a keyboard I can go into more detail for you

>>34725694
I'm pretty sure that .45 doesnt really have much more momentum.

Considering momentum is just mass x velocity

where as energy as 1/2 mass x velocity^2

>>34723975
Not including the .25 ACP.

Shame on you

>>34725794

You're going deeper into the variety of ammunition for each round.

A 230 grain 45 normally travels ~800 = 184pf

A 124 grain 9mm normally travels ~1100 = 136.4pf

That's a nice difference in momentum. Energy on average is still the same. Remember, there's a lot of variation in round weights and velocity, you can't pick two at random, you have to kind of average them out when speaking so broadly. The 9mm +p+ I shoot for example comes close to a 45's momentum but has a lot more energy.

>>34724351
No?

You can get glaws in 380. 380 was designed for Smol handguns for carry that wasn't as strong as 9mm to require more locking, but wasn't anemic as 32 acp.

>>34724358
unicorn caliber for pistols

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>>34723975
>taking an auto-loader with a caliber that doesn't start in 4 to a gunfight

http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20Ballistics%20as%20viewed%20in%20a%20morgue.htm

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>>34723975

>>34725878
Okay, is that it? Beyond a Glock in .380 what is there?

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>>34725943
A good and fun read, anon.

>>34723975
>I'll do another list
don't. wait until you've actually used them next time.

>>34725943

>This spreads around enough that /k/ starts carrying .45 pistols and suggests that people only use .45 for CCW.

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>>34725913
Unicorns are real.

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>>34723975
>no .357 sig

D R O P P E D

>>34727554
This

>>34723975
kys newfag

>>34727554
That's because it's a proprietary snowflake round, regardless of effectiveness

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>>34725943
Good read anon. Thanks for the link.

>>34727451
>.45 vs 9mm threads will live longer than you will

>>34725694
>.40 cal is almost always a subsonic round
No it isn't

>.45 ACP and .40
Meant for full size combat handguns
>9mm
Meant for full size combat handguns but can be adopted to fit smaller personal carry handguns
>.380
Meant for small personal carry handguns
>anything smaller
Meant for personal carry handguns for cops in European countries over 70 years ago

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>>34727893
You

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>ITT

>>34723975
>9mm
>bad for suppression
>.45
>good for suppression
Nice meme
>>34727893
Learn what the word "proprietary" means

>>34727958

>he uses <180 grains in his forty

Sad!

>>34727941
>They were around before you were born.
In the form of magazine articles and letters to the editor.

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How about .41 African Eliminator?

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As a guy who works for an ammo company that specializes in self defense ammo, this thread is full of shit that enrages me on a daily basis
Most all common calibers are good for carrying and using
If you don't think so, you don't know shit about picking the right bullet for a given caliber to be effective in their own rights.

>>34726131
Beretta cheetah/84/85/etc are .380, full size and sexy as fuck

>>34728310
Screw you, we're workin' for Mel brooks

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>>34727526
looks good but
>that font

>>34728468
most of us are just horsing around. Any defense caliber going at 1k fps poking a hole in you and tearing you open is going to fuck shit up enough to stop jamal dindunuffin or jose bordercrosser.

>>34729243
Source... for scientific purposes

>>34729576
lexi bloom: less reading, more breeding

>>34729243
Would you happen to have the sauce?

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>>34729637

>>34729243
looks like that anita sarkesian bitch, instant boner killer.

>>34728310
>/pol/ in the background

>>34728554
Read the beginning of the chain. I asked about .380 pistols that weren't blowback, which as far as I know .380 glocks are the only ones that come to mind.

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>>34723975
>9mm luger
>not the most effective round for ballistics
147gr is fine

fuck out of here

Is .22lr a safe round? The rimfire primer sketches me out. A good drop is all it needs to go off

>>34724088
less common rounds list upcoming

>>34724246
self defense against people, should have made that clear

>>34724351
yes, but it (like all ACP cartridges) is very low pressure, i.e. easy to silence. thus the mac 11

>>34725694
.45 has greater foot lbs of energy
should have mentioned 40 cal penetration
subsonic 9mm kind of weakens the round
nah, bro, you aren't being a dick lmao

>>34725943
KEK

>>34727429
used the rounds? Ive shot all 4 of those as well as some less common ones.

>>34728330
its true. yes you can get subsonic 9mm ammo but its kinda sucky ballistic-ally. the 9s only strength is speed, take that away and meh

>>34728468
um, bruh.....that was kind of my point XD

>>34731629
it just isn't bro. it generates less ft. lbs. of energy. it is a very good round, it just isn't the best

so new thread for less common stuff or nah?

>>34724246
Carry a rifle.