How in the actual fuck were the Germans able to recover from

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>>34723612

some of this is true, the rest I dunno

>>34723612
the fact that the versailles treaty wasn't really a thing that was enforced anymore after like 5 years and they just built everything in secret, it was also just a pretty big country with a large population and enough raw resources to just go to war with preparations (which they had made)

>>34723612

TRIUMPH OF THE WILL

JAWOHL

or something like that

Lets be honest. Would 2017 Nazi controlled Germany be any different than 2017 nanny state Germany?

>>34723710
they wouldn't have to worry about migrants

>>34723710
I dunno man
Option 1:
>Pay too much taxes
>Have to endure the fact that there are lots of migrants in your country
>Some censorship
>Somewhat democratic
Option 2
>Get beheaded when you voice your disagreement with the government
>Get gassed when you are sick or a Jew or a Gypsie

>>34723612
>how were the germans able to recover from WW1 sanctions
Breaking them (weak enforcers)
/thread

>>34723728
you somehow forgetting hitlers massive hard on for muslims ...

so yeah no difference what so ever

>>34723612
The rest of Europe were unwilling to the enforce treaties designed to prevent exactly this sort of thing, and by the time the continent was just about tired of Germany's actions it was too late and the Germans were able to begin the war on their terms.

Had France decided to send in troops in 1936 when Germany attempted to remilitarize the Rheinland, or if Britain and France had decided not to allow the Sudetenland be annexed in 1938 WW2 may not have happened.

>>34723612
>Recover from WW1
By rapidly reestablishing themselves as an industrial power. France didn't do this.
>Reparations
Go bankrupt.
>Sanctions
Break them.
>Shit economy
Fascism.
>Defeat France
By fighting WW2. France was fighting WW1 again.

>>34723640
Interesting. I never knew that Jewish bankers forced Hitler to invade Poland. Really makes you think.

>>34723612
Crippling debts, germany was semi bancrupt at the beginning of WW2 and only managed to stay afloat and avoiding hyperinflation by taking over other countries and their reserves. The nazi party basically did the same in 1933, if they didnt would have won that vote they would have been crushed by their own debts. It is a use and abuse mindest, that heavily leans towards creating an advantage by debts and then use that advantage to take from others to cover for those debts.

>>34723612
Read Churchill's history of WW2. The krauts had a three-four year headstart in rearming. The rest of Europe, including Britain, sat there and watched them fucking do it. Nobody wanted to spend money on awful nasty bang bangs until it was too late.

>>34724456

(((bankers))) have had a hand in starting most wars so it follows

>>34724456
Actually, ignore this comment. I regret posting in this thread. Mods, please delete this thread as it is clearly off-topic.

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>>34724459

Germany was never bacrupt to begin with. german emire was. Weimar Republic got rid of the debts by massive cuts in social care and investments. German investment market was open to anglosaxons especialy americans who have fleed own market to germany. additionally Germany got a SHIT FUCKING TON of gold stolen in East Europe before. at the begin of Hitlers rule Germany got allowance to sell stolen gold and goods on the world market again. btw. hitler used the same loophole to sell the gold of the jews he robbed few years later. US stock exchange still have some rooms full with german gold, which was owned by sheckels shlomo. Additionaly Hitler ran massive socialist programms of weimar Republic up to 1943 allowing people getting rid of own debts and write state debts off. shit went down when Hitler lost his marbels completelly and started to install fucking empire.

>>34724640
They were bancrupt, their expenses were larger then their income and no one was willing to lend them more money for getting an even bigger threat and seeing said money never again. Stop talking out of your ass with your incoherent rambling, this aint /pol/ here.

>>34723640
redpill me on islamic banking

>>34724396
Yeah, Hitler actually was pretty friendly with the muslim world and thought pretty highly of the gooks. Although seeing the migrants coming into Europe like they are now could change his opinion.

>>34724396
>friendly relations with strategic allies is the same as opening your borders to their citizens

You're an idiot.

muh Aryan stronk

Weimar republic reforms in the economy and NatSoc govt seizing all the precious metals and cash they could. Then using neutral country banks to convert precious metal to hard currency.

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I legit think 2017 Nazi Germany wouldn't be that different to regular modern day Germany

>>34723612
German businesses have a tendency to form cartels. This allows them to recuperate surprisingly fast at the expense of competition.

>>34724482
This. Churchill covers it pretty clearly in the first 20 pages of volume 1.

>>34728312
Well then you're probably retarded
See >>34724315

Armor is good, kid. Guderian taught them how.

>>34723640
This is all true. Look into the documentary "The Secret of Oz"

every single US president that tried to issue or did issue debt-free money was killed or had an attempted assassination on them.

The Schlieffen Plan works better with tanks than trains.

Also, the Nazis didn't think like other governments. Hitler said "this is the price of bread" and everybody followed. On the first day they were in power, they shot 15 people on the Berlin metro for skipping the fare.

They didn't argue with people.

>>34723640

>Private currency speculators caused the German Mark to plummet

What is "things that cannot happen and did not happen" for $300?

Speculators in every market STABILIZE prices.

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>>34723710
Merkel's Germany:
>get thrown in prison for months/years for criticising government decisions (migration) on facebook
>widespread censorship
>wife/daughter is likely to get raped
>your neighbourhood slowly turns into a slum as more migrants move in

Hitler's Germany:
>get thrown in prison for months/years for criticising government decisions
>widespread censorship
>husband/son likely to be drafted and killed in war
>your neighbourhood slowly turns into a wasteland as more bombs fall on it

I'd still prefer Hitler's Germany to be honest.

>>34731970
See >>34724315

Gonna need a source on
>widespread censorship
>wife/daughter is likely to get raped
>your neighbourhood slowly turns into a slum as more migramts move in
You now, statistics and figures, not /pol/ tier memes.

I see the problem with Merkels policies but that is just completely exaggerated and if you seriously think that's comparable to Nazi Germany you're delusional.

>>34731995
>>34731970
Also a source for the "get thrown in prison for months/years for criticising government decisions (migration) on facebook"

>>34731995
>You now, statistics and figures, not /pol/ tier memes.
I'm at work atm on a shitty computer that struggles to load a webpage, I'm not going on a research rampage because you can't disprove me.

>>34732002
>Under German law, social media users are subject to a range of punishments for posting illegal material, including a prison sentence of up to five years for inciting racial hatred.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/world/europe/germany-36-accused-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html

>>34723612
by doing the opposite of what they are doing today

>>34732003
You made a claim, you have to prove it.
>>34732018
Well I think no speech should be illegal and am concerned about that but racist bullshit can hardly be considered serious criticism of the government, don't you think?

>>34731970
If you're white you could has guns in Hitler's Germany. So there's that too. Just don't be a communist and you're good.

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>>34723612

>>34723710
2017 Nazi Germany would have invaded France and then got hold of nukes so it'd be worse.

>>34732111
t. doesn't know anything about Nazi Germany

>>34731995
Those things are true if you are a /pol/tard and live in a very low income neighborhood.

>>34732149
No, he's actually right. Gun laws were lax for ethnic Germans.

>>34732156
But you weren't good just by not being a commie ffs, if you voiced disagreement with the government you literally lost your head.

>>34731964
Speculators are human and not logical actors. Every bubble that ever existed proves you wrong.
Not that I agree with populist bashing of speculators when things do go wrong, but to claim that speculation is inherently a self-correcting mechanism is completely wrong.

>>34723640
lmao
almost none of that is true, everything after the third post is based on the lie that Hitler stabilised the currency: he did not; Hyperinflation ended With the Rentenmark in 23.
The entire post plays fast and loose with dates.

>>34732104
yeah, but there is no concrete international metric that measures "racist bullshit". As it is, there's too much room to move the goalposts and simply crack down on dissent while claiming you're fighting "racism". I mean, aren't the far right cracked down on more than all the "kill all whypipo" crowd? I don't really sympathize with the nazis and fascists (it's not like they'll let you keep your guns), but it's easy to see what's going on here.

>>34724396
You're a fucking moron if you think that means he would take immigrants

>>34732104
>>34732274
aaand i misread your post like a total autist. sorry about that, anon. my point still stands, just not in relation to your statement.

>>34732274
Completely agree and as I said I'm an opponent to this legislation but yet there weren't abuses of this law on people who didn't spout bs afaik

>>34724396
>you somehow forgetting hitlers massive hard on for muslims ...

If Hitler had won, he would have likely allied with the Muslim world / ME countries and helped them develop as client states which opposed what remained of the Allies. There would be no Pissrael and therefore no massive destabilizing nexus in the ME. Lastly, he would not engage them in constant conflict, turning their populations into refugees. One could hope, at least. As a Muslim, I can respect that.

>>34732336
>therefore no massive destabilizing nexus in the ME
>Implying the ME isn't inherently destabilized by the Sunni-Shia split even without Jizzrael

>Implying the ME isn't inherently destabilized by the Sunni-Shia split even without Jizzrael

In modern times, it has hardly been an issue except when (((they))) want to destabilize/destroy a country like Iran in the 1980s and Iraq in the 2000s, Lebanon in the 80s onward, etc. All enemies of you-know-who who of course must be neutralized. Any decent government can keep a lid on this otherwise minor religious squabble.

>>34732199

Right, obviously - people can, and do, make mistakes all the time.

But the thing is: When speculators are right, they make money by stabilizing the market. When they're wrong, it is the speculator, not the other actors, who lose money. Complaining about speculators is weird.

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>>34723612

>>34732168
shut up commie

>>34732672
Not really, when speculators are right, they make money full stop. Stabilizing the market is a coincidental side effect that is as likely to happen as destabilizing the market, whether making or losing money.

>>34723710

Far less rape I reckon

>>34724315

>some censorship

If only you knew how bad things really are

>>34724421

Are you saying Hitler only conquered huge swathes of Russia and Africa, along with the entire countries of France and Poland among others

...because France sucks?

Maybe you are oversimplifying there kiddo

>>34732018

Go back to pol maggot hate speech is fucking evil and should be punished, only fucking Nazis like you disagree

Wah wah I need to be able to say unpleasant things to upset people for literally no reason

>>34734135
Tell me. Gerne auch auf Deutsch.

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>>34723612
Read this.