CZ 75 buyers guide?

Also, something that will be useful if SHTF and last 3 lifetimes

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>>34719247
S P 0 1

>>34719247
SP01 or Shadow if you want something for the range. Can easily be used in competition.

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>>34719247

>>34719344
This range is neat anon, is it your land or a public range?

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>>34719352
nah just a pistol match I didnt do too hot in

>>34719247

Basic 75B or SP01

>>34719247
I wanted one until I learned how piss poor the triggers are.

>>34720135
>literally one of the most praised triggers in the firearms world

How come /k/ bait is so bland?

>>34719311
Literally ruined the gun with you faggot decocker

>>34720317
good thing the faggot decocker comes standard with the gun?

>>34720157
That praise is unwarranted. Maybe the old models had good triggers, but the one I felt in a gun store was atrocious.

>>34719247
Get a nice condition pre b from like 1995 and don't look back

>>34720135
>>2017
>>baiting this hard

>>34720323
Kill

>>34720669
I wouldn't claim they're the best double action triggers on the market (that goes to sig) but CZ triggers aren't bad by any means. Especially if you get an omega. Hell even my 75B has a decent trigger now that it's broken in.

>>34720720
The double action was OK. I was talking about the single action. It sucked donkey dick.

>>34719247
Are you literally too lazy to go to the manufacturer's website and look through their catalog on your own?

>9mm
SP-01 = full size, rail (biggest)
75B = full size, no rail
75B Compact = compact, no rail
75B P-01 = compact, alloy frame, rail
PCR = compact, alloy frame, no rail
2075 RAMI = subcompact (smallest)

Next time, do it yourself, faggotard.

>>34720135
>>34720157
>>34720669

The triggers aren't that bad, but it's an acquired taste. The double action pull is long but is smooth, but the decocker version can feel "cammy" - like you're camming gears together unevenly - but not terrible. The single action pull has a few mm of creep through the break, but it's smooth creep. It feels like a Geissele single stage AR-15 trigger. Great if you want the break to surprise you.

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>>34720736
My 75B has a way better single action than my Beretta 92. My buddy's CZ omega has the best single action trigger i've tried.

>>34720751

This. Omega's SA is ridiculous.

GL finding one though that isn't a decocker.

>>34720770
You know they come with the parts to convert to safety model, right? That's the whole gimmick of the Omega system.

>>34720749
You forgot the CZ 75b SA. Full sized, larger beavertail, single action goodness.

>>34720804
I didn't mention certain variations, like the Tactical Sports and the Omega models, because they are either irrelevant to a first time CZ buyer, or superfluous and he can figure out the difference if he finds one in store.

>>34720804
I also didn't give any unnecessary details, like stating the frame material when it was not relevant to differentiate the model from another similar model. K.I.S.S. Like I said, he can go to the manufacturer's website if he wants the full story.

>>34720749
Yeah my SP01 tactical double action is atrocious, but the single action is nice and smooth.

>>34720720
No amount of custom work could get my P220s trigger near my CZ's just saying

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>>34721058
Sig triggers blow CZ triggers out of the water.

>>34721075
"No"

>>34721093
D+

Show your work.

S P - 0 1

>>34721075

Sig and Beretta blow stock CZ's out the water. Any swinging dick saying the DA is good on a CZ75 is full of shit.

>>34720751
I don't particularly like the Beretta 92 either. The only good triggers I've ever seen on handguns were 1911s and Smith and Wesson revolvers in single action. Timney makes good rifle triggers.

>>34720157
>How come /k/ bait is so bland?
Because /k/ is so easy to trigger.

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>>34719247
No love for the fuddy five ?

>>34719247
Actually. I have a question as well. I'm going to be turning 21 in a couple of months and I was looking at a P01 as a carry gun. I'm curious, is there much of a difference in how the full size v compact carries? I like the A E S T H E T I C S and handling of the full size a bit more, and it's cheaper for me.

>>34721696
The P-01 weighs like half a pound less. What do you think?

>>34721591
>CAL. .45
>. .

What a blunder.

>>34721746
That it'd be a better "carry" choice in general. I'm just wondering if the difference between that and the full-size 75 would be enough to make a big difference. I usually don't wear any clothes lighter than cargo shorts and a slightly over-sized t-shirt out if that helps.

>>34721778
Well you're going to need a belt for either of them. I wouldn't want to carry anything more than 20 ounces or so if it's my EDC.

>>34721785
Most of the clothes I usually wear tend to use a belt, never was a fan of wearing sweats and gym shorts out. Makes me feel like a tool, but that's a story for /fa/

>>34721801
Look, if you want to get into concealed-carry, the CZ 75 isn't ideal unless you really love being uncomfortable constantly and like to wear a windbreaker. I didn't carry a gun when I was 21, though. It is a huge responsibility.

>>34721813
Thought as much, looks like it's down to the P01. Thank you!

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trigger wasn't that great out of the box.
Smoothed out a bit from shooting it, but still had grittiness towards the end of the trigger pull.

Not the heaviest DA pull (that goes to the HK USP's), but I swapped in a #15 hammer spring, a CGW extended firing pin, and their hammer really took ALL the grit out of the pull, in fact, it's almost a clean break.

Then again, this was my first handgun, so I'm gonna put some money into it.

>>34720317
>ruined the gun with you faggot decocker
Are you fucking retarded? There is literally nothing wrong with a decocker.

The damn decocker hate doesnt seem to come around until summer.

>>34721873
what's wrong with a decocker? Are people that afraid of DA?

>>34721883
>what's wrong with a decocker
I literally said there was nothing wrong

>>34721887
I'm asking you why people get so whiny about decockers.

>>34721893
I have no fucking clue. I love them.

>>34719247
Get one with the safety then, since the de-cocker is more for carry.

The SP-01 is damn good, but a normal CZ-75B will serve you well, too. A SAO 75B is also an option since that is optimized for range use.

>>34721893
>>34721883
Shitty trigger pull.
You don't buy a fucking comp pistol to put a decocker on it.

Decocking = LEO/Carry

>>34723408
Im sure you must be an expert on how the sear cage of a cz works for safety and decocker modles or how you need to start from double action in competitve shooting anyways

https://www.riflegear.com/p-5052-cz-75-sp-01-tactical-9mm-181.aspx

I've had my eye on this sale the past few days

I have a cz PCR to go with my scorpion evo

I'm not really a pistol guy but I like it. I wish the disassembly was as easy as my makarov though

>>34723445
>what are SAO triggers
Fucking retard.
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-shadow-sao/
>inb4 discontinued
It's literally just a trigger assembly to change.

>>34721751
>abbreviation of calibre
>decimal point
What's so confusing about that?

>>34719247
If you have absolutely zero intention to carry it ever, and will not change your mind in the future, the standard 75b will be fine. It's got a safety, but if it's just a range toy, you shouldn't ever touch that.

Now, if you have the inkling that you might someday carry it, just go for the decocker model, or 75BD.

>>34721813
I can IWB carry a full sized CZ 75. It's not uncomfortable, and I just wear regular t-shirts over it. Its not that difficult.

>>34719247
SP01

>>34719344
IDK why you'd post that, not exactly showing the guns capabilities ya know

>>34720157
He's right though, every stock cz trigger I've tried is shit. My GPs trigger literally blows my SP01s out of the water.

>>34720323
>buying the tactical instead of the normal sp01

JK, the tactical is a good choice for comp due to their stupid ass rules aimed at gibbing DA/SA guns and giving and edge to glocks and other striker fireds

>>34720706
Yea, if you want the best trigger experience possible(after dropping 200$ on parts) but on a gun with absolute shit sites.

Get the shadow senpai.

>>34720720
>>34720736
>>34720751
ok maybe im just unlucky or something because my SP01 trigger is dildos. Long, gritty, long reset in SA.

>>34721696
Yes. Im a pretty big guy but CCWing a sp01 with 18rnd mags requires dressing around and is typically something i reserve for cooler weather.

>>34721813
DESU i do fine with a loose flannel, good belt, and good holster on a regular cz-75. but if you aren't 6' + and ok with looking slightly slobbish it's a whole other story.

>>34724182
>guns with safeties are uncarryable
lol

>>34724391
I see more value in a decocker over a safety. It's not that a model with a safety is uncarryable, they absolutely are. I just wouldn't do that myself.

>>34724182
Nigga I carry cocked and locked. Give me one good reason I shouldn't.

>>34724806
He's probably going to complain that it "isn't safe" or that people aren't capable of reliably flicking a safety off in a life or death struggle followed up with how he has infallible weapons handling practice so their superfluous anyways

Inscrutable logic like that, ya know.

>>34724642
>It's not that a model with a safety is uncarryable, they absolutely are.
Read that again. You're saying that they indeed are uncarryable.

>>34724831
My grandpappy didn't need no safety to kill gooks in Korea, I don't need one to kill 'em in Texas.

>>34719247
Get a SP-01 Shadow

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>>34723408
>Decocking = LEO/Carry
>Decocking
>cocking

Hijacking for my own purposes. Is the P-01 worth the extra money over the P-07? I liked the feel of the P-01 but I haven't looked at a P-07 in person. It's like $150-$200 difference, plus I will probably carry it, so I don't want to spend $600 on something for carry. I know about the mag costs, but for regular use 75 mags work fine I heard. Don't plan on upgrading parts in either of them.

>>34724895
Depends on if you want the slightly better firing characteristics provided by the increased weight of the P01 or the improved ccw comfort offered by the lighter p-07. Both do everything comparably, just a matter of preference.

Personally I'd go with the P01 or PCR but that's because i prefer metal.

>>34724831
No, I'm saying that I personally think carrying hammer down, loaded chamber, with a heavy DA first pull is better than cocked and locked. And I'm sure you think the opposite. Which is exactly why both guns exist.

>>34724806
Each carry method has its benefits. I just prefer not having to switch off a safety before I pull the trigger. For that preference, I have a heavier, DA trigger pull.

>>34724846
Apologies, I meant to say that a safety model is very much a carryable weapon.

>>34724977
>No, I'm saying that I personally think carrying hammer down, loaded chamber, with a heavy DA first pull is better than cocked and locked. And I'm sure you think the opposite. Which is exactly why both guns exist.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

stop being reasonable this is where the autistic shit slinging is supposed to start

>>34725011
>stop being reasonable
No? We're all CZ fans here. Why bicker?

Just get one of the knockoffs made in Italy or Turkey for 250 each and you can get one of each and not worry about it. They are pretty nice. I have a Shark and a Sar Arms copy and they both have better triggers then my CZ 75 Compact

>>34725251
Steel italian ones are low $300's and turk metal frame ones are mid-high $300's.

>>34720135
are you somewhat slow in the head ?

You need to find better wholesalers then

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>>34719247
Get the CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow!
I've owned many guns (SigSauer, Glock, Beretta, S&W, Ruger, Taurus) and this own some of them.
But the best pistol I have owned so far is CZ Shadow. I love it and compared to many other guns its slide release and magasin release works perfect. The gun is stable and it's trigger pull works great.
Go to your local gunshop and try it out. I haven't tried the newer versioner (Shadow 2) but you should definitely try that out as well. I have heard plenty of positive reviews so far from people who shoot IPSC.

Good luck from Denmark.

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Get a used pre-B for cheap from CDI Sales on gunbroker.

>>34725607
Is that the same seller who sells surp Israeli CZ's/EAA's?

I have three CZ's, an sp-01, a tactical sports, and a 75B that was used as a base for an open division racegun. The triggers were pretty terrible on all of them out of the box. Heavy, lots of creep, obvious hammer camming etc.
They're extremely easy to work on though and a cz with a good trigger job rivals any 1911 trigger, but stock? Completely underwhelming.

>>34725607
How cheap is cheap and what is more desirable about the Pre-B's? I think no firing pin block correct? Will modern parts for the most park interchange in a Pre-B?

>>34720317
safeties on double actions are cancer

Anyone tried the S-120? I'm mainly curious about the trigger (can't find a single LGS with one in stock to try out)

I have an pretty old tanfo FAB 92 and frankly the trigger just isn't on par with brand-name Cz triggers. If the S-120 is better Ill have to grab one.

>>34720864
Just got a suppressor ready version yesterday, can confirm. The single action is great, double action leaves something to be desired. Might get a CGW trigger job done eventually, but a can is my first priority.

>>34725712
that's why you put in the single action trigger

which is the best one out there

>>34725771
>Glockfags

>>34725607
>tfw my gun club bought one in great condition for 70€

>>34724182
How do you carry it?

I got a cz75 compact, is it worth swapping out the factory guide for for a stainless steel one?

>>34719247
Jericho 941

>>34719247
Get a Hi-Power cause the CZ 75 is just a Hi-Power clone with DA/SA.

>>34726785
>get a gun that holds less and can only shoot single-action

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>>34726928
>Implying single-action only and carrying cocked and locked isn't the best

>>34726964
Single-action Only is pretty dated senpai.

>>34727117
But everybody loves glocks

>>34727428
I don't.

I like metal frames and DA/SA triggers.

>>34719311
OEM SP01 Tactical would be my choice. Only thing I would change is the phillips head grip screws for some allen head screws.

>>34727486
But striker fired guns are so popular!

I get that you and maybe some other's don't like them but they're probably the single most common design in use today.

On another and completely unrelated note, what practical inherent value does a Striker fired design offer over an SAO design?

Firing pin blocks/safeties aren't exclusive to either design so mechanical safety isn't an inherent feature over SAO.

All I've heard of is that a hammer can become clogged with debris and that all things being equal a striker fired design can be made more compact.

OTOH SAO tends to have less of an issue with light strikes and hydrolocking than SF handguns and also allows you to visually observe the firearms state(cocked/uncocked).

What exactly is it about SAO that makes it obsolete other than the designs that tend to be SAO?

If anybody has an informed opinion or source on the subject id love to hear it

>>34724884
mommy what is that man doing with his thumbs?

>>34725783
Yeah I've been thinking about getting a CGW trigger job.

>>34727661
Lookin cool

>>34728049

I love my CZ's but will agree, the DA pulls are typically trash. I give all mine the CGW treatment to some degree. My PCR is scary good in how much it improved with the SRS, blue main spring, and 85 trigger.

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>>34719247
Get a Rami first, then learn to shoot it, then buy an OG CZ75. desu

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>>34726173
Wrong

>>34725420
Why not Shadow 2?

>>34729402
the Shadow 2 is overhyped and not in stock anywhere

I have 8 CZs and let me tell you, it's not worth it if you're already in the CZ game

as a first CZ it's fine though - if you can get one

>>34721591
Big fan. That's something to hand down to the grandkid who's the most badass.

>>34729059
Excuse me
What the fuck happened to those rear serrations

I don't have the holsters to test this so:

What holsters fit the CZ75 Compacts. I see stuff specifically for the full size and then for those with rails.

With how similar they are I'd think the full size would fit and the holster would just be a bit longer than necessary.

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>>34731276
I got a great leather one from Simply Rugged Holsters for my P-01.

>>34731276
>>34731288
I guess i should say I was looking at more formed holsters like kydex.

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CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works?

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>safety on a double action pistol

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>>34731540
>unable to operate a safety

>>34721229
>Sig and Beretta blow stock CZ's out the water.

Sig, yes. Beretta, lolno. Berettas have long as fuck mushy triggers.

And yeah, considering a sig p226 is going to cost you literally twice as much as a CZ-75 it fucking better have a good trigger or sig should personally send a swiss girl to suck my dick for that price.

>>34726684
...in a holster, IWB, around 4:00, with a shirt over it?

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A new batch of Milsurp CZ 82s just landed in the states and I just picked up these two last week. I like them a lot more then my 75 compact. They fit the hand better and they are more accurate with the fixed barrel.

>>34725607
What grips?

>>34731880
Your decocker is a safety on its own, if you whine about "muh trigger pull" you're a weak manlet

>>34719247
get p07

>>34723633
Its pretty fucking easy pham.

Who the fuck actually likes cz's? They're heavy as fuck and have shoddy machining. Buy a fucking Beretta or a Block if you want a fullsized shitcannon that doesn't weigh 5 pounds.

>>34737289

>Who the fuck actually likes cz's?

you know just a shit ton of police and military forces

>>34737344
same could be said for Block.

>>34730853
Saw 2 shadow 2s and a phantom out window shopping the other day.

>>34737377

okay great, nobody here is saying glock is shit fuck off

>>34731444
Why not both?

>>34737425
Block is shit.
:^)

>>34737494
Comes down to taste, and I guess just who you are. They're certainly not an excellent choice for anyone and everyone.

My friend has hand tremors and fybromyalgia, she said she greatly preferred the feeling of shooting a CZ75 Compact over a Glock, because it doesn't feel like it 'wobbles and shifts' when it fires like a Glock does, like it's solid and secure.

I would never feel poorly equipped armed with a Glock 17, very rugged and functional, but I can kinda see her point, and I'm really no fan at all of the quasi-DAO trigger they have (the safety I can take or leave).
On the other hand, I feel that the M&P feels kind of passable.